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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition Runs at 60fps on PS4 and 30fps on Xbox One

Rocket Chainsaw states that while both versions of the Tomb Raider definitive edition have unlocked frame rates with a minimum of 30fps, the PS4 version runs at 60 fps most of the time while the Xbox One version runs at 30 fps most of the time.

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Hatsune-Miku887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Superior console superior games. Definitive console definitive games

Ps4 is the future and the future is ps4

Enemy887d ago TrollingShow
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Eonjay887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

What do you expect. This is native 1080p here.

Xbox can't catch a break. I wonder if anyone was gonna feature it on Youtube.

Edit. It was confirmed by the Crystal Dynamics during the twitch video. PS4 is 60 and Xbox One is 30. Both unlocked framerates. Crystal Dynamics praises PS4's ability to handle 60. This isn't a rumor.

xHeavYx887d ago

I'm glad developers are using the full power of the PS4 with no restrains

TheRedButterfly887d ago

You're giving Miku a bad name. Please close your leek hole.

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Bathyj887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Not the point Emma.

Of course both console can do 1080p 60fps. It depends on the game.

Truth be told this game doesnt need 60fps anyway (although it is nice) and most dont even want it until it drops in price.

But if you think this means nothing that the vast majority of multiplat games are coming out significantly better on PS4, especially after last gen when every little advantage (real and imaginary) x360 had was held up on a pedestal, then you cant handle the truth you talk about.

Its certainly very telling that Xbone is so far behind on so many games. And its only going to get worse, not better.

And please, I'll give you that Xbone has Titanfall, its not my type of game, but it does look great and I think it will be very popular, but dont play the cloud like a drawcard. The Cloud is just a big external Harddrive at the moment. The only ones doing anything with the cloud to actually improve gaming is Sony with PSNow. MS is just using cloud as PR speak without really showing anything tangible.

zeuanimals887d ago

Emma, nobody's doubting the X1's capabilities of outputting games at 1080p native and running them at 60fps, the problem is, the X1 has a hard time of doing so.

Devs have to either cut graphical fidelity to do achieve 1080p 60fps, or cut resolution or performance to keep the flashy graphics. Most devs prefer to cut performance and resolution before ever touching graphics, the great thing is and they didn't have to cut much from the PS4 with TR.

ipach887d ago

sounds like a pizza ad:
better console. better games. papa johnstation.

GTgamer887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

@Emma
"dont forget that infamouse second son is running at 30 fps"
Second Son is an open world game with lots going on so what's your point the only open world game on Xone is DR3 that can't even maintain 30fps but you Xbox fans defended that saying it has allot going on so Sony fans can't do the Same :/.

"The amount of hardcore sony fanboys on this site is so funny lol"
Says the Hardcore MS Fanboy -_-

"its still to early to tell witch console is supioror at the moment and has better games."
But its not too early to say which console is stronger and all evidence points to the PS4 :)

" Dont forget. xboxone has cloud computing and titanfall under its belt. and go agead and mark me down for the truth : )"
Yup that Cloud really helped make CoD/BF4/AC4/titanfall 1080p on the Xone oh it didn't and Damn sure isn't helping tombraider to run at 60fps on the Xone and mark that down as the truth :).

UltraNova887d ago

So a 400 buck pc can handle 1080p at 60fps...good good..

Makes me wonder though, what kind of a tower-spec wise- do i need to game @60fps for my new Samsung 4K tv? Any suggestions? (keep it real guys the tv drained me!)

vishmarx887d ago

so finally 1080p 60fps and gfx that outclass the PC version.
another point that assures my purchase of a PS4 this march instead of xb1(Infamous vs titanall)
the xb may have latent power in EsRAM but i coudnt care less considering devs have already mastered the ps4

Army_of_Darkness887d ago

"The Xbox One build can technically reach around 45 fps, though this performance is generally only achieved during the most empty, simplest environments. For most of your play, and during action scenes, the Xbox One build will sit on around 30 fps. On the other hand, the PlayStation 4 build will attempt to hit 60 fps as often as possible, and does a pretty good job of doing so, but does have slight dips under 60 fps during certain scenarios."

I might reconsider getting it now once its 100% confirmed :-D

n4rc887d ago

So as I'm reading this..

During ideal conditions.. X1 runs at 45 and the ps4 at 60..

Dips under 60 means what? 45 during heavy action and 30 for x1?

Not really specific.. The ways its worded leads to believe a bit of a bias

abzdine887d ago

This is an old gen game for God's sake! how cant it handle a higher frame rate? How will it be in 5 years, games will run 10FPS?

SonofGod887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

@Hatsune-Miku

That is the most arrogant comment I have ever seen.

It's arrogant comments like these that makes me NOT want to buy a PS4.

Septic887d ago

Not really the definitive version on X1 then is it?

Further cements the fact that third party experiences on PS4 are the way forward. Destiny, The Division and the like all will be played on my PS4.

GarrusVakarian887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Megaton!

And here i was fully willing to buy it at 1080p 30fps....now i get an FPS boost :D

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bobtheimpaler887d ago

@EmmaRio

Yes, the XBone can do 1080 at 60fps. Just not with this game...or with many other games at the moment.

Please don't compare tomb raider with second son. Tomb Raider isn't anywhere near as open.

Too early to tell which console is superior? Dude, we knew the specs from the leak almost 2 years ago and they haven't changed. PS4 is objectively more powerful.

FamilyGuy887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Oh just F*&%ING GREAT! -_-

As if PS4s weren't hard enough to find already now we've got YET ANOTHER multiplatform title having a PS4 version that out-classes it's X1 counter-part. As if people needed more reason to buy a PS4 instead.

Will this trend ever end?
When will PS4 stock ever catch up to demand with stories like this coming out every time a multiplatform game is released?

Lmao

So, on another note. I'm very happy to see that some devs are wiping their 4$$e$ with MSs "parity clause". Knowing the PS4 versions of games aren't being held back by the specs of a completing consoles hardware is gratifying.

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angelicsnow887d ago

@ doink

Yea i agree. Their all great consoles.
just depends on what you like.
no need to make hardcore statements like that on a site like this when their all fun consoles to injoy. really is just up to personal preference to decide wheather witch one is more supirior then the other

pyramidshead887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

This is what you get when a hardware company designs a gaming console around tips, suggestions and technical needs from the top game developers themselves.

The PS4 is laser focused on one thing, being able to run games extremely well for the consumer.

It's pretty damn obvious, and I bet will continue to show, that it's definitely the definitive gaming machine.

People can talk about exclusives and launch games all they want, when games are running a lot better on one machine than its direct competitor it's continually damning to that box's capabilities; especially for a new, more expensive, next gen system.

andrewsqual887d ago

@EmmaRio I think you need to open your eyes actually. Killzone and Knack were also reported to run a 30fps but actually turned out to be unlocked running averagely at 40 fps. Read this and check out the videos to educate yourself. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Infamous Second Son will be the exact same and don't forget this is running at 1080p as confirmed on 20th February 2013 at the PS4 console's reveal.
Sucker Punch have had lots of time to optimise and actually use the extra 4gbs of graphics Emmery added to the console since they started development.
Now, how many games on Xbox One since launch run at 1080p and a framerate of over 30fps? Dead Rising is a perfect example of a messy last gen game with unimpressive textures that runs at 720p and still suffers at slowdowns to 20fps. Does that not in itself explain to you the differences in PS4 and Xbox One? Do you need any more proof or does the "let's wait and see" phrase that people like you have been saying since the leaked console specs in Nov 2012 still hold up?

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morganfell887d ago

"Both consoles can run at 1080 at 60 fps."

This title was upgraded from last gen and the X1 can't hit 60fps/1080p in static areas.

As I said in the other thread this sort of thing was predicted a year ago by the creator of FXAA:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

And again, the hardware differences are not marginal:

Xbone: 1.18 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +400%

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GuruMeditation887d ago

@angelicsnow. Strange that you are eager to defend emmario AND you've misspelled some of the same words. Your writing style is also near identical... you guys must REALLY be on the same wavelength. Hmm.

On topic, Tomb Raider Definitive is shaping up to be great, looking forward to this one :)

mewhy32887d ago

This is a repeating pattern. I'm so relieved that the devs aren't letting the bone hold the PS4 versions of these games back. It's a sigh of relief that both consoles are being pushed to their limits and one not being held back by the other. Let's hope that the devs don't get pressured by ms, forced to try to achieve parity no matter how much sacrifice must be made on the PS4 version to get there.

ThanatosDMC887d ago

But teh cloud powerz will make everything work on magic fairy dust!

dantesparda887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Careful guys, dont say anything to bad about the X1 or be to honest cuz you'll probably get marked for trolling. Facts arent welcomed on this site

otherZinc887d ago

@Hatsune-Miku,

LOL.
PS4 is the definitive console for last gen ports.

What frame rate is Killzone:SF running at in single player? What's that shi**y Knack running at?
That's what I thought!

This is next gen, not last gen. Do it with a next gen game!

ramiuk1887d ago

i just devs continue to use the extra power in the ps4,
waht we have to remember here is if 1080p and 60fps was possible on xbone it would be at that.
maybe down line they manage it but by then i expect ps4 to be tweaked even more and be further infront then.

DLNA and usb hardrive for film support
3d bluray support
always mute online/voice of speakers needed badly as fed up with people panting or swearing on games.

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PLASTICA-MAN887d ago

Considering the Tress-FX which puts down most of the high end PCs, the extra added next-gen effects, lighting and physics, running at native 1920 x 1080 at 60 FPS it is a technical avhievements even for high-end machines ( you can bring your Alienware or Origin quad SLI Titan + 64 gigs of RAM which you can only see in your dreams or fairly tales, we are talking mainstream here, check Steam polls, most of users are stuck with GT 9800 which i used to have before my old HDD was fried). Devs who knew what they do weren't lying about the PS4 being high-end.

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vigilante_man887d ago

Good news that PS4 version is NOT being held back graphically. A good game is a good game regardless but it makes sense to push each platform to its limits.

It must be clear to all now that PS4 is more powerful - but both will do an amazing job with next gen games.

I could not tell you what fps or graphical technology my fave games on the PS3 were. I didn't care because they were great games. They were also pushed to their limits at the time.

I think we will get this fuss about games for a while because of all the 360 versions of multi-platform games that were slightly better looking last time around due to it being the lead platform for the developer.

What goes around has come back around. But from a PS4 owner I wish only great times ahead and awesome gaming experiences for ALL new owners of XB1 and PS4. We are gamers first!

Gamer1982887d ago

Hmm wonder what the xbots will say now.. They constantly been saying 1080p not important only 60fps important.. Bet we get a 1080p more important from them now.. How about get both? 1080p and 60fps on PC.. Hell I'll even raise you a 4k :)

morganfell887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

"Amazing. Another no name site with no source at all and it's posted here as article like it's news. N4G is just hilarious and so are fanboys. It was confirmed both run at 30 fps."

Source for both at 30? If you are going to attack an idea that has a source at least you could refute it with one of your own.

And if you knew anything about the author you would be aware he is a well known and respected Gaffer.

BTW BallsEye, here:

http://www.videogamer.com/p...

"The PlayStation 4 version of Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition runs at 60 frames per second, executive producer Scot Amos has confirmed.

The Xbox One version is still believed to run at 30FPS, half the speed of the PS4 version.

"Looking here, this is the PS4 version running at 60FPS, again at 1080p," Amos said during a GamesRadar livestream last night. "That's awesome for that to be able to showcase because when you get your hands on it you can feel it."

Sarcasm887d ago

The sweet juicy salty tangy tears in here are great.

Prime157887d ago

I love my ps4 and I hate comments like, "Ps4 is the future and the future is ps4."

I also find it ironic that there are more people attacking this "predominately Sony" site than actual Sony lovers commenting. If I went into a ms article I'd get flagged for trolling by saying something anti-ms too.

This site is about not pisiing others off, that's why you lose bubbles. That's why miku and sasuke have 1 bubble to blow on their fanboy jargon.

It's a respect thing, we all have opinions, n4g has been one of the fairest means of expression because you can't just keep spewing arguments back and forth like on kotaku, as you can get bubbled down for not treating someone the way you want to be treated.

Also, the articles here can be submitted by anyone, but apparently some don't get that.

Zancruz886d ago

@Eonjay Wait! Wait! Are they telling us Xbox One can NOT even handle an last gen game? *Points at X1* Lmao

ITPython886d ago

This is why it's important for the PS4 to have solid sales, because if the XB1 was beating the PS4, devs would focus more on the XB1 version and the PS4 version would be gimped and would run well below what it can handle.

Cause while not as extreme as last gen, that was the case with the 360 and PS3. 360 got all the love and the PS3 got the neglected versions of games, even though it was more powerful. But when devs focused on the PS3 version first and foremost and 'ported' to the 360, both consoles got the best quality possible for them.

So if the PS4 keeps getting the sales love, both PS4 and XB1 get the highest quality versions possible. Because devs make the best version on the PS4, then dumb it down however much is required to run on the XB1.

PS4 winning sales and popularity = best for everyone. XB1 winning and taking popularity = only good for XB1.

fr0sty886d ago

You know it's bad when a last gen game with minor improvements struggles to run on the hardware.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

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Jughead3416887d ago

Guess this really is the "definitive edition" for PS4.

gamingisnotacrime887d ago

in this case Definitive Edition stands for something

a great game just got better

and yes resolution and fps matter a lot

TheFallenAngel887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Lets wait until the dust settles lololol. Lets be happy developers are not gimping down the PS4 version. Hell even infinity ward din't gimp it.

Eonjay887d ago

Crystal Dynamics already confirmed it during Twitch 1 hour demo via Q&A

Alexander1Nevermind887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

This^^^^^^^^

With all of Microsoft's back door shenanigans, I pleasantly surprised they haven't been able to pay off devs to gimp their multiplats.

For the record I've played and conquered on PC so I won't be getting it for the PS4.

Bathyj887d ago

Exactly, this is the best thing about this. I dont care what the Xbone version is doing, I wont be getting it anyway. I care they made the PS4 version as good as they can make it. It bades well for future releases.

ramiuk1887d ago

im just waiting for a dev to pop up and say clouds crap and aload of fog and mist hahaha

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AngelicIceDiamond887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Didn't they announce both consoles were running at 30 fps?

http://www.vg247.com/2014/0...

If this is indeed true then I what about this. http://n4g.com/news/1438387...

"Its ok to be 30 frames for an open world its normal for shooters and racers" etc, etc. Just rational behavior when both are.

Preparing for the hypocrisy and backtracking now.

In fact, let me get it going. "Xbone is weak" " Its under powered" "Inferior" "a joke"

There we go.

Other than that I've already played it so its not a buy for me especially at 60 bucks.

BitbyDeath887d ago

If you're happy to wait a while I expect it'll end up on PS+ before the year is out.

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Oner887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

The problem is YOU ARE NOT RIGHT!

Scot Amos has confirmed he was misquoted in that article. He clarified that it should have been this ~

"There were some misquotes. Our goal was 1080p 30 FPS minimum. And as you can see here, the PS4 version, is clearly running at 60."

Now what's your next excuse gonna be? Because the FACT is that the XB1 is weaker/inferior on a hardware level no matter how you try to rationalize it.

Now what was that about "fanboy hypocrites"?

#DealWithIt

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Majin-vegeta887d ago

You sound a tad salty Angel.I think you've had enough N4g for one day.

OT:This is good news for PS4 players :).

AngelicIceDiamond887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

@Oner "Now what's your next excuse gonna be? Because the FACT is that the XB1 is weaker/inferior on a hardware level no matter how you try to rationalize it. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. I've been here for almost 4 years I've heard it all I'm way pass that.

And part 2 of the act. Lol I got someone mad that was easy.

I'm only gonna explain this one more time. I don't care about frames, that's fine. But I do care about how suddenly the 30 frames is dreadful though 2 weeks ago its fine cool and dandy when it was across both platforms.

If it was a misquote that's fine but it still exposed the fanboys none the less

So what about Infamous 30 frames. Are people gonna bash that? Exactly that's what I thought. I won't further use that as example due to my respects for the devs and I'm a huge fan of Infamous.

Its all just boasting out of no where when clearly it was cool to have 30frames in Tomb Raider BEFORE this announcement. The useless act of downplaying one console to make the other console look better is the usual gist. Got something to say about that? naah probably not.

Probably just more "Xbone" this and "Xbone that."

@Jacked Oh no someone needs to keep the fanboys in check and call out hypocrisy such as my first statement. You guys don't like it but I don't care. Could care less.

Its like fanboys celebrate over the littlest of things. 900p here and 1080P here Omg yes!

Enjoy the celebration though most of you still don't care and won't be picking it up. Your just reassuring the PS4 is better.

And you know that's ok actually.

@Majin No, I'm good. But thanks for checkin though.

zeuanimals887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Emma, there's too many Sony fanboys everywhere. The PS4 is outselling the X1 and X1's are in stock almost everywhere while the PS4 isn't and whenever there is a new shipment of PS4s, it's gone in less than a day.

Know what this tells me? The PS4 is just more popular than the X1, of course you're going to see more Sony fanboys than X1 fanboys. And many people were soured by the X1 over the previous year that it's hard for many to be neutral.

Even if people have gotten over the X1's horrible lead up to launch, there's still a ton of bad news coming for it almost every week. It's not like people are just going to overlook the fact that one system is inferior to another. I know a number of people who are enjoying the X1's games a lot more than the PS4's, but they won't stop talking crap about the X1's multiplats sucking a lot more and how they're gonna buy them all on the PS4.

Kayant887d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

"So what about Infamous 30 frames. Are people gonna bash that? Exactly that's what I thought. I won't further use that as example due to my respects for the devs and I'm a huge fan of Infamous." - Do you know how open it is? Atm it's already doing more technically than DR3 did in terms of resolution, AA etc. But then again it's no easy to do a apples to apples comparison on both.

And from the above the only one to have started the *omg xbone is weak* *hahaha can't even do 1080p 60fps* is you. Not once did anyone say that all they said is that it depends on a title to title basis.

Why o why887d ago

Inner pain masquerading as reactive banter. Deflect all you want but this, for obvious reason pains you and many ms supporters. The passive aggressive nature of comments only hype up the people you're trying to fool. Its all good though right:)

Ares84HU887d ago

@EmmaRio,

You don't own all the consoles. You own an Xbox One or Xbox 360. You don't have a single Sony console. If you did, you would't be talking like that. You make it way too obvious that you are an Xbox fanboy.

People who own all consoles don't pick sides, but you do.

So how about you be quiet?

Thank you!

Angeljuice887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

As a Sony fan I can honestly say that the difference between 60fps and 30fps on a game like Tomb Raider won't make a great deal of difference to the end-user experience.

It doesn't mean the PS4 version will be more fun to play, however it does yet again prove that the PS4 is more capable/powerful console.

If you have an XB1, enjoy it. It is by all accounts a very good console, however if you start saying that:

a) The cloud gives XB1 an advantage over PS4

b) The Xbox is more "balanced" making it more powerful than XB1

c) Microsoft's "superior software" makes up for the hardware advantage of PS4

d) There is a hidden secret weapon hidden in the Xbox that is yet to be unlocked

You will be called out for spewing garbage.

The Sony fans on this site do need to calm down a bit, there's nothing more annoying than gangs of people gloating every time a multiplatform game is released and performs better on PS4.

By now everyone that knows anything about hardware knows the PS4 is more powerful. The evidence is overwhelming. However that doesn't mean that it is a better console choice for everyone. If you love Microsoft's exclusive titles, having a more powerful console that can't play any of those exclusives isn't going to make you happier.
Some prefer the Xbox because of Kinect and the voice activation, and although I don't understand that myself, I can respect diversity and individual choice.

Both sides need to calm down. Microsoft fans need to think before they talk utter BS about their system being on par/superior power wise and Sony fans should be more dignified and understanding of others purchasing decisions.

!!! It's not all about power for everyone !!!

kupomogli887d ago

@AngelJuice

"The Sony fans on this site do need to calm down a bit, there's nothing more annoying than gangs of people gloating every time a multiplatform game is released and performs better on PS4. "

Nothing against your post really, but last gen 360 fans gloated about games that had no noticeable differences or ever so slight differences, rather than just the few that had very noticeable differences.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but you can imagine how some PS3 owners felt about the constant belittlement. We're two months, going on three right now for the Xbox One. How about seven years?

NeoTribe886d ago

Its been confirmed already dude. There is no "i thought both ran at 30". You thought wrong. Ps4 gets best multiplat. Fact.

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TheTrooper887d ago

@EmmaRio LOL! You're a strange little man.

Joey_Leone887d ago

It shocks me how there's some people who are willing to buy an XboxOne over the PS4, The PS4 is $100 cheaper,DRM free, AD free and it's MORE powerful. It just really shows how much XboxOne consumers care about gaming.

n4rc887d ago

Or shows how arrogant some people are..

How mad does it make you that I'd gladly pay $100 more for my Xbox one?

Here's a quick tip for life.. What you think doesnt mean shit to anyone but yourself..

You like your ps4? I should hope so.. I enjoy my Xbox.. But why can't you accept that?

I've been gaming since the late 80s.. Are you even that old? who the hell are you to decide what gamers should want?

AsimLeonheart887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

@n4rc

He is a fellow human being who has the right to guide and advise another person. Man too much liberty is getting to people's heads. Rights and liberty have gotten so out of hand that people do not want to be bothered even when committing suicide. They do not want to be criticized even when making foolish and irrational decisions.
People buy products for the value they offer. Value is judged by evaluating the price one has to pay for the benefits one gets (whether material or sentimental). You get higher value when you get more benefits by paying less. That is common sense and rationality in essence. Paying more for less and being stubborn about it is pure stupidity. You want to be foolish and don't even want others to tell you that. PS4 is clearly the superior and rational choice when considering material benefits. Xbone can only be a better choice if it holds more sentimental benefits for you and you do not care for material benefits. Plato put it very accurately when criticizing democracy and liberty; it is an unmixed wine that makes a person intoxicated and irrational if dispensed in excess.

"Why, when a democratic city athirst for liberty gets bad cupbearers for its leaders and is intoxicated by drinking too deep of that unmixed wine, and then, if its so-called governors are not extremely mild and gentle with it and do not dispense the liberty unstintedly, it chastises them and accuses them of being accursed oligarchs." (Plato on Democracy and Liberty, Plato's Republic)

DigitalRaptor887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

@ Joey

I'm not so surprised. Microsoft has been warping people's perceptions of gaming and this industry for years. You can see it in the boasting of non-gaming features as things that supposedly make the Microsoft console superior this time.

The kind of audience they were going for with the Xbox One is a carefully constructed one. It's the living room, the family, the non-gamer before any other. However, I still don't think the family demographic is tagging along quite so well as when they introduced the Kinect last gen. There are better and less expensive alternatives in a number of different regards.

And it's still going to work to their disadvantage, as they want the whole cake and also think that they get to eat it.

I'm glad Sony yet again, went for the audience this industry and our passion is centred around. "Know your audience" - seems Microsoft does and at the same time... doesn't.

Prime157887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

N4rc, your condescending tone makes you no better than what you are advocating against.

Whereas I agree with the meaning of your words, the words you chose make it hard for me to agree with you.

When an xbox article dominates the n4g meter there are just as many annoying xbox fanboys as Sony fanboys in this one.

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Akuma2K887d ago

Lmaoooooo....that pic of Leonardo Dicaprio dancing is funny as hell.

Ares90887d ago

It's from 'The Wolf of Wall Street'

Great Movie!

RVanner_887d ago

Banter, bloody awesome film too