Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning Albert Penello wrote about browsing the UI of the Xbox One and about the integration with voice commands, expressing great confidence in how fast it is.
This all, of course, is acting on the assumption that the Kinect 2 works as well as they say it does - with all languages and accents. Somehow, I'm not entirely convinced it will. But if you're a suit wearing, educated and preferably wealthy North American you should be okay....but as far Micro$oft are concerned, who else matters??
Someone is angry...
Or realistic, we all know the claims MS made about the first Kinect on what it can do and how great it can do it and that didn`t really work out.
^ But that is the first one. Can you at least not consider the technology in it this time around?...or, your just angry???
http://www.troll.me/images/... I`m not saying they didn`t improve on the technology, only that I would take it with a grain of salt on how well it will work. It`s like if Sony would come out with a new version of Home for the PS4 and go on about how great it is. I would look back at the first one, their claims and start laughing at them.
Thats a new one, anyone who criticizes or shares realistic comments on Microsoft thanks to what they've said in the past are now "Angry" Well least we've moved on from using the word "troll" for now ¬¬ Haters - Trolls - Angry People
Maybe they should just post a demo
They have posted plenty of demos and I am sure more are on the way. Doesn't matter the same ignorance and people who claim they don't care for MS or anything related to them will still be hollering and wasting their time posting how much they don't believe or want a device more than they spend on what they say they enjoy. Nothing new.
Kinect 2.0 is mind-blowing. Too bad there's all these haters out there to not give it the credit it deserves.
@Mustang I haven't seen any voice demos since the reveal. Have you? He is saying that it is smooth and quick, but wouldn't it be easier to just post a demonstration of it being used. Most people realize the presentation wasn't representative of the final product. We get that, things change; the interface is bound to evolve. There is only one month left so people are getting restless to see the voice feature in action.
@Mustang or Maybe Microsoft is waiting for the right time to show it. If I were on the marketing team, I would wait until a week before PlayStation launches, then I would ad bomb like crazy.
@Mustang300C2012 I can`t speak for the others, but I will buy an Xbone. As soon as I can buy one without Kinect and I don`t care if it is a used console where the seller decided he will sell it cheaper without Kinect or if it is a new one in case MS decides to sell them without Kinect. I couldn`t care less about Kinect and I wouldn`t use it and therefore not willing to pay extra for it. If there are ever a few great games that are really awesome when using Kinect I would consider buying a Kinect as a stand alone device. As long as this is not the case no sale. That`s not because I`m a Sony fanboy or something like that. That`s because I won`t support MS for forcing a device because they have invested maybe too much money on Kinect and want to get some profit out of it or because they want to get the casual market. They don`t force it because it makes games better. I`m sure I would have fun playing Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3, but not at the cost of paying extra for something that I don`t need for games and that doesn`t make gaming better.
Why does it matter to folks who don't care about Kinect 2? OT "Show me the money". I've seen small partial demos of specific Kinect/UI functionality but a hands on Live walkthrough would be welcomed. Understandably they are hard at work finalizing things for launch and of course things will constantly change for the UI so just show us when its ready is the best way to do business, despite my impatience.
Yeah, both the Xbox One and the PS4 will have voice command, but honestly, I'd rather just use a controller.
@OrangePowerz: The first Kinect had fantastic voice control and accuracy was excellent. That said, instant switchin and voice commands makes ease of use the de-facto standard on Xbox One. Nobody else can touch that right out of the box! Still really want to look for that controller, flick around with your thumb, then the controller is available and your apps/games are pinned for even faster access. Kinect One is freakin awesome and I'm glad MS designed their console around it and stuck by their guns. They did't let the fangirls ruin that part!
Wasn't the kinect voice stuff staged on all the prior presentations?
That demonstration at the reveal was all staged. It was painfully obvious when Yusif Medi was demonstrating Skype, as the conversation was pre-recorded. I just need to see this in action to believe it.
I've seen plenty of demonstrations with the press present that weren't staged. Members of the press asked to see certain things, and the presenters used Kinect voice features to access them.
I doubt they'll be so crazy to launch with it not working, come on :D Voice rec has done some pretty big steps lately.
Sure it will work, question is how well will it work. It might work as well as MS claims or you might need to repeat phrases over and over again until it works.
Kinect for the 360 voice control works perfect, I don't see why Kinect 2 would be any differnt.
I can't take anything seriously from a person who uses the dollar sign in Microsoft. I immediately write it off as some dribble from a fanboy. It's like the people who use horrible uncreative insults like Shitbox and Gaystation. Why anyone takes these people seriously, I will never understand. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to speak this way on this site lately.
Yes, let's immediately write off somebody's perfectly valid opinion because I don't like something they did - how very grown up and accepting of you. I don't like it when people confuse your with you're but that doesn't invalidate their opinion to the point of nonsense...or make me assume they're idiots because they don't know the difference! Additionally, the '$' you refer to was edited in after my comment was posted, originally I had just put a plain old 's' in the middle. But, upon looking at it I felt the '$' actually made a point that was relevant to what I was saying, in the context of the very sentence it is used it - whilst keeping an already lengthy comment from growing much longer. Your reply added nothing to the discussion and only served to call me a fanboy whilst attempting to invalidate my opinion on the basis of a punctuation mark you disagreed with....a very fanboyish thing to do! ;)
Voice Commands on Xbox 360 work damn near perfect as it is. So why is anyone expecting less on a majorly improved version and next-gen system? @JunkieJedi "with all languages and accents." how about just worrying about YOUR language and accent. If kinect doesnt nail ever dialect out there what is it a failure to you?
The only way to ensure that it will respond to my language and my accent at launch - before I drop hundreds on it - is if it responds to all of them! Additionally, I am not totally selfish and don't think ANYONE in the world should have to pay a premium price for something which won't work for them. Much like the reviled 'always on' feature they backtracked on - why should people pay for a feature they cannot use? Not to mention the cable features will only exist in the US as well at launch...Global users are buying the same kit for a (generally) higher price and not being able to use all these much touted features. I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if there was a possibility that these things wouldn't work/apply to you.
The real question is, even if it works, how many people will actually use it?? How many ppl use the voice commands in phones? Will they force it and try to make you like it or get use to it??
It's safe to say; Whatever the XBOX ONE Kinect does, it's better than the PS4 Eye.
You don't even have the console yet. Broad assumptions much?
Kinect reads my accent greatly, my ios devices always think i swear at them.
I don't think you can take the high ground on maturity when you are criticizing a corporation for not being a non profit organisation nor do I think it's comparable to link bad grammar invalidating an opinion to somebody childishly putting dollar signs in the name just because they won't provide a service for free. Editing in the Dollar sign afterwards does not make it seem less childish, that is like saying "Xbox Done" and "Indiestation" are relevant and makes a point. It doesn't, it's just childish and using terms like that makes you seem like a fanboy, which invalidates your opinion as liking a product/company is not a reason for hating the other. It's rare they say anything with much merit. I was not calling you a fanboy or even implying it, nor was I trying to invalidate your opinion. I was implying that if you type like a fanboy, then I will interpret you as a fanboy, and won't take you seriously. And I highly disagree that hating fanboys is "fanboyish" I will be getting both consoles and will continue to pity the fanboys of both sides who say stupid things. If you had come off as an Xbox fanboy, I would still have called you out on it.
My mouse and keyboards begs to differ, that`s only because I`m not using Window 8 :) Edit: Since they use the Metro UI I can see why voice control would be faster. I just need to look at the 360 how fast it was to navigate around before they changed to the Metro UI and how slow it was afterwards to get to things.
Awesome, can't wait to pickup my Xbox One on launch day.
Im with you on that one buddy! I know I wont use kinnect for gaming but ill perhaps use it for navigation.
lol, all the Disagree, the PS4 haters are in the room
I don't get it sorry but I am curious about this reading your comments you counter Xbox fanboys and side with PS side especially I read your report today that counters what Ksar has submitted. http://n4g.com/news/1374264... I always thought you'll be getting PS4.(Just curious) Anyways I gave you an agree, we all should repect each other's choice.
Why are you getting disagrees just for wanting an XB1? Are people so insecure that they need to try and crush your opinion..."No, you CANNOT be happy with an XB1...Sony said so"
Xbox one gonna be great!!!!!!
i know ill definitly be using the kinect..it sounds very convinient and easy to use.
Great, Xbox one sounds better each day
XBone.....Halo 5 please! "What did you call me?"
Why would someone say please to a console.....
Its going to say "You didn't say the Magic Word" and then the Dinosaurs all run amok. For those that miss the reference... too bad for you.
I'd love to see little easter eggs.... Where randomly talking to kinect triggers a action like getting mad and yelling f**k you Xbox and it turns itself off... But again... I'd love to take kinect and all this tech one step further, privacy be damned... When I kill someone.. And kinect senses the controller being thrown, I want kinect to spin up and record a live feed for 10-15 seconds and send it to me.. Lmao
Penello obviously never used thumbs.
I'm not going to lie, a lot of these features sound "neat" but they're not ground breaking got to have. Not to mention it's not entirely impossible for the PS4 to have a lot of features the Xbox One prides its self on (Although this is pure fantasia speculation on my end) But it is really interesting, but like I said it doesn't scream "buy" me now, well for me at least. But to each their own.
Fair points.. Gotta respect that.. That's why I'm glad we have two different choices, both targeting different corners of the market... If xbox isnt for you, chances are ps4 will be and vice versa.. I can't really say kinect is a must have for everyone... But it seems like a cool piece of tech that will add value... Is it worth $100? Absolutely.. Do you need it? Well thats a different ballgame. I want it and look forward to seeing what it can do down the road.. Until then ill be happy with a 1080p cam for skype (xbox chat now)
I hope its a lot better then the orig Kinect i remember my russian friend trying to play End War the units would never understand what he would say lol but it was just his tone of voice my other russian friend used it just fine you never know with voice controls
End wars didn't use Kinect.
lol someones lyyyying
I was talking about voice controls in general you cant tell the orig kinect to do very little voice controls are iffy always if you don't know that then you haven't used them much
Even if the voice features work perfectly fine, I would still prefer to use the controller to navigate. If they're going to push Kinect they need to show off better features than just talking to my TV..... Sorry you Kinect supporters, but if you're forcing Kinect on every console, I expect some better features than just Voice Commands.....
This is what I'm affraid of with Kinect, that they will nudge you into using it. I agree and would rather just press a button. Talking to my tv is not appealing.
You clearly know nothing about the new kinect. Look up its facial recognition applications, look up kinect fitness, look up D4..... All listed applications are new. Devs are only learning about its potential. By making kinect 2 mandatory it will allow developers to master it. Similar to the improvements made to online gaming over the last 10 years.
I know enough about Kinect to know I don't care for motion or voice controls; or face recognition or fitness games. My concern with Kinect is developers will use it making it a requirement to use.
I hope it works correctly this time around.
The last time I saw the Xbox One's UI running real-time, which was a couple months ago mind you, it was surprisingly slow. Especially snapping live TV. Now, I'm not saying I don't think Microsoft can't achieve a really fast UI setup for the Xbox One because that is literally what they do, but at the same time I'd be skeptical about how well it runs. Same goes for Sony. I'm even more skeptical about how well the remote play function will work, although I've seen more live demonstrations of it and it looked pretty quick and easy to do. Also, as silly as it might sound I hope Microsoft is cognizant of making the UI easily navigable with a controller, because I could legitimately see them focusing too much on voice and gesture navigation thinking anybody that tries it will want to stick with it and only making the controller navigation functional.
Where did you see at?
The Xboxone was built to function well across 3 different OSs because of it's architecture...
Its almost here guys.
Do you know what bothered me about the original Xbox interface, was the submenus were LOW res vs the main menus. I hope this wont happen with the next xbox.
You'd better be in one of the very few countries that supports this voice navigation if you want to see the benefits. I'm still waiting for Microsoft to show how the next generation version of a camera they have treated as the future of gaming, can prove beneficial to gaming in a big way. But nothing so far, and we're a month from launch. C'mon Microsoft, justify your camera outside media functions, as i'm sure most people buying your console its bundled with are buying it for the games.
Xbox one ain't built just for gaming. It's an all in ONE entertainment system. It's in da name.
It's what they CLAIM.. not what is. I wouldn't let MS sell me a puppy without there being a catch.
Who ever said kinect was just for gaming?
I hope you guys realise that Xbox is a gaming brand, and as such, should be representing gaming with its gaming focused peripherals. Kinect (or should i say Natal) was supposedly founded on gaming, and yet its presence is absent outside of media functionality. Microsoft are making you front the cost of an extra $100 for a console with features that the current generation Kinect can do. Unless they show true advancements for gaming than the poor performance we've already seen, then it's an absolutely atrocious that they've force bundled it in there.
I still feel like the PS3's XMB was faster for me because I didn't have to jump though many hoops unlike the 360 UI... But these are my OPINIONS and I guess everyone has their own OPINIONS too. Just, You can't go claiming something is faster without a little proof of it ;)
Not faster than my PC with Google Fiber.. Sorry
You know except for a mouse. And probably PS4's track pad.
Its probably faster with a controller and that goes for both systems. Nexus 7 2013
i think all these little features are neat, but nothing to boast about. im sure the ps4 has the same ui controls with the eye. though neither the eye or kinect got me interested.