"Sony loves to take their biggest games from the PS2 era, give them a few visual upgrades and then port them to the PS3 and PS Vita – after all, they sell well, and are far cheaper to make than a new game. One of the developers best known for handling the ports is Bluepoint Games, and we’ve spotted that they’re doing another one." - PSLS
With nothing to show for the last four years of development, Bluepoint Games has been backed into a corner by PlayStation's ambitious but futile live-service efforts. Ultimately, the gaming giant has done the team a disservice by dragging it into this mess.
They could've had a new ip or bloodborne remake/remaster by now. Legend of the Dragoon was a huge request as well...
Jim Ryan and Hulst are morons who blindly wanted to surf on fortnite success.
Whatever it takes…
Well i hope the wake up call was brutal enough. Waste so much potential, not wanting to hear about Days Gone 2 and force the studios to make something they don’t want to cancel it a few years later.. hulst should be fired without notice
They've wasted all of their studios potential putting them on this live service initiative. It's been terrible this generation their output all because of Jim Ryan's BS
But what if it were a Socom revival?
Of course I wouldn't want it to take the predatory "live service" route, but obviously the game would center around online play.
What was the last non-live service multiplayer game to sustain a playerbase for any reasonable time?
I hate it, but I think gamers have been so conditioned by the RPG-ification of multiplayer games that, except for smaller niche audiences on PC, they won't accept a game you just play because the gameplay is good. If there isn't a grindy progression system, people will say they don't have a reason to play. If there aren't constant updates with new content, people will say the game is dead and that the publisher put it out and "abandoned" it.
I'd love a real Socom game, but to do the numbers Sony would want, it would have to be live service.
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ND, Bend & Bluepoint had no business working on live service games for the past 4 years at the same time, they should have just had 1 or 2 of their newer or lower tier studios as well as Bungie working on live service games. Sony PS working on 12 live service games by their top tier studios was a dumb decision.
Blupoint had been working on the live service game for thr last 2 yrs, not 4 according to Jason. They were a support team for for ragnarok after releasing demons souls.
A Sony spokesperson has stated that closures aren’t on the docket for Bend and Bluepoint, and that PlayStation is currently working with both studios to figure out what’s next with them.
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Yeah this is great news. I want too worried because they only mentioned cancellation and nothing else. But, its good to get clarification.
Well I’d hope not considering you’re the ones who stuck them with live service bs.
This. In most cases employees are only doing what management advised. Which makes it more irritating when execs are rarely ever laid off. Even more so when you realize that firing one is about as cost saving as dozens of devs.
Exactly. Firewalk brought it on themselves - they were doing Concord before Sony bought them. But these studios were told to move in this direction.
Sony confirms that it has canceled two unannounced live-service games that were in development at Bend Studio and Bluepoint Games.
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Wait what, you're telling me bluepoint was wasted by having them working on live service slop? WTF.
I know right. I wasn't expecting that. This generation is cooked. I feel like these Sony first party studios had the most potential. But maybe this is a good thing because most of the Sony fanboys didn't want more live service games 🤔
agreed playstation has some major leadership concerns, I still have a ps5 just to carry over all those ps4 games I had but I almost 99% play exclusively on PC now, with stellar blade comfirmed for PC and spiderman2 and final fantasy remake part 2 coming to PC next week , the ps5 literally has 4 ps5 only games,
1) rise of the ronin 2) astro bot 3) demons souls 4) gran turismo 7
now compare the ps3 lineup on 2011 (that one year was better than the entire ps5 cycle), and the one making the list and posting on n4g was the teenager version of me myself lol
2011 PS3 EXCLUSIVES
DC Universe Online (PC/PS3)
LittleBigPlanet 2
Ar Tonelico 3
Trinity: Souls of Zill O’ll
Killzone 3
Disgaea 4
MLB 11 The Show
Yakuza 4
MotorStorm: Apocalypse
Virtua Tennis 4(Amazing, HD and move gameplay)
Oddworld: Strangers Wrath HD
-Ico
Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection
Sorcery
Playstation Move Heroes
Infamous 2
The Agency
Resistance 3
SOCOM 4
Uncharted 3
Ni no Kuni
Journey
PixelJunk Shooter 2
FF13Versus
Last Guardian
which playstation players are really craving these GAAS online only games ? they just coasting on brand loyalty at this point, go and make single player story based games, aka days gone 2 would be preferable to any of these options, if you are making a remake then instead of horizon go make resistance trilogy, infamous trilogy , killzone trilogy, or even ps2 era remakes like sly cooper, jack and daxter , original god of war 1 and 2,syphon filter, just like how they did a great job with shadow of the colossus remake, who wants another last of us or horizon remake ? sony is weird this generation and people like me that owned every playstation including the vita have already jumped ship
Nah it doesn't. You're way off tbh. And I've played close to 30 that are only on PS5 console wise. Certainly more than 4 that are only available on PS5.
This is extremely surprising to me as well. All the amazing work they did on SOTC and Demon's Souls only to be rewarded with being acquired and allowed to do their own IP and it was a live service game? Talk about wasted potential...
I’m sorry but the more of these baffling decisions come out the more I’m convinced Jim Ryan was asked to leave.
A God of War GaaS title? Come the f*** on.
When I read that I was speechless. Then, thought about it more still speechless. How in the f*** do you even make a live service God of War game? Like wtf? What a stupid @ss decision
Absolutely. And I hope Herman was given a stern talking to about not trying to continue this nonsense. It's like they were trying to become a mobile game company or something.
It's pretty clear now that the live service push was as deep as I thought it was going to be. Pretty much everyone is or was working on live service, and Herman confirmed they're still going after live service. We've seen very little 1st party releases from PS compared to previous gens. This gen is pretty much a wash, these teams with cancelled projects don't have enough time to get anything out before next gen systems come around. What a waste.
People are still blaming Jim Ryan but Herman is still pushing for live service. As much as I like him, and I was really excited about him moving up in PS, I think he needs to go. After all, we know Concord was all Herman. He called that shit the "future of PlayStation". He's lost his damn mind.
Nah, they had 12 planned for release by 2026. They had even more in development that would come out later. Seems that almost every team is working on live service.
Literally EVERY team was told to make a live service game, most of them have been cancelled at this point.
This isn't the PlayStation we grew up with. This Playstation is all about greed, they much rather make a live service game even if that means they will have failures as long as they have 1-2 successful projects
I am a Playstation fan but OK this site especially there are playstation fanboys who just worship the brand and defend every move regardless of how it affects us as gamers. We need to stop pretending like these brands care what we think. This is beyond frustration because a lot of people were ready for bend and blue point to reveal their projects. Atleast Phil Spencer let the teams make what they want and just look at how many single player games they have in development compared to playstation
Herman hulst the worst hire for Playstation
And this is why I play on all platforms. So when companies do bonehead ideas I have something else to fall back on.
Wait WHAT?! Bend’s game is cooked? After like 5yrs since Days Gone, we’re back at page zero? Un-BELIEVABLE!
Oh and wtf were Bluepoint doing on a GOW GaaS game? What is going on? 🤯
I mean, silver lining is that HOPEFULLY they will reverse back to what they know how to do best, single player experiences, and they will not push any of this **** again
Yes, though the likelihood of these studios coming out of complete cancellation of their projects without job losses is probably not very high. Let’s hope it doesn’t reach studio closure levels, since at this point Sony upper management must know they are the ones that reeeaally messed up with this live service stuff and now they need all hands on deck to make the type of games they did before and they will need all their studios for that
They could and probably will. But how are Sony gonna tackle these 3 to 500 million plus dollar projects in the future? It was revealed that COD cost 700 million$ to make. That's absolutely not sustainable for anyone in this industry.
I know Sony and MS love new hardware with a better graphics and RT etc but what's the point of any of it that if the cost of games are slowly entering in the billions?
Man at this point, I say screw graphics and RT and all the fancy stuff and focus on innovation and fun. The games can look good of course but all that money and time need to go to gameplay, mechanics smart AI, better worlds, characters controls and mechanics. Innovate in those areas.
They’ve wasted some of their top talent on GaaS stuff and it’s wasted almost an entire generation
Insomniac (Spider-Man The Great Web)
Bluepoint (GaaS GoW)
London Studio (Project Camden)
Firesprite (Twisted Metal)
Naughty Dog (Factions II)
Bend Studio (Unnamed Project)
Oh but don’t worry Herman’s baby Horizon is full steam ahead…
It's likely the live service game that was being made alongside a single-player game like every other studio they had under this initiative
Wtf Sony!!! After the amazing job they did with demons souls remake. You then go and buy them out and then make them work on a live service title only to then cancel it?
Days gone was a underrated gem. Sure didn't get 9/10s from reviews but fully deserves and sequel. Absolute morons running Sony at the moment.
Day's Gone is a good game. But they released it at the height of journalism idiocy and paid the price.
They were complaining about all the zombies having white skin (so the devs are racist). Even though there was in universe explanations for it. While also saying it's racist that Chis killed black zombies in Africa.
I disagree that this was peak journalism idiocy though. They're far worse now. The difference is, people still used to take what they said seriously.
People realize they're a joke now.
@babadivad
-"They were complaining about all the zombies having white skin (so the devs are racist)."
Incorrect. That wasn't "they." That was *one* Gamespot critic who reviewed Days Gone. There were other writers, both reviewers and site editors, who also said unfair stuff about Days Gone overall, but you're generalizing to an absurd degree. Painting with such a broad brush is dishonest.
Wait they cancelled both Bluepoint's and Bend's games? Damn Bend has one of the worst lucks at Sony's.
And why live-service God of War game? à la Ascension? And military sci-fi ‘feel’ live-service game doesn't sound like SOCOM ... wait, its not Killzone or Resistance, right?
On a slightly separate note, this news also comes right after the Sony Decima news. That more Sony first party studios are encouraged to use the internal Decima engine. Coincidently, Bend's prior game was UE4 based. I guess the 2 cancelled games were UE based as well and now that those are cancelled, these two studios would be embracing Decima as their next project's engine. Hope the other UE 1st party studio, Housemarque is safe.
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Come on Jak Collection II with Jak X, Daxter and The Lost Frontier.
So many games I want
Anything by these guys will be stellar. They've done an awesome HD upscale job.
1. syphon filter HD collection and a next gen syphon filter
2. dark cloud Hd collection and a next gen dark cloud
those two franchises come to mind, gamescom can't come soon enough
I actually enjoy playing these on the Vita. It's almost like a brand new game.