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The Last of Us: Why David Is The Greatest Character of This Generation

Ruaidhri has chosen an unlikely character to be his favourite not only of The Last of Us, but potentially one of the greatest written and acted characters of this generation.

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minimur121077d ago

Voiced by Nolan North :)

SethThePirate1077d ago

I didn't realise that until the credits, he nailed this role! Sounds like a completely different person unlike most of Nolan North's roles that sound like Nolan North :)

brodychet1077d ago

-Spoilers-
UH. one major question; did you realize david was a pedophile?

He was only interested in saving ellie to sleep with her; and this is not a joke.

I didn't see this is in the article. And I question how many actually notice this. He wanted her as his pet, and since she fought against him, he decided to kill her. That's why Ellie's last line before Spring was "He tried to..."

KUV19771077d ago (Edited 1077d ago )

SPOILER:

It's just an interpretation. A valid one mind you, but she could also have been trying to say 'He wanted to slaughter me' and 'eat me' (for dinner, you know?). The almost-slaughtering-scene isn't more than an hour ago in game-time at that point. He could also 'just' be a sadist. After all he enjoyed the torturing part and mind tricks.

I really saw him more of a torturer than a pedophile, but there are various indices that support the pedophile-theory.

I totally agree however that I can'T share the views of the author. At no point has David been a good guy.

minimur121076d ago

See, i thought he soundeda bit like that guy from south park haha

Highlife1076d ago

@brodychet
Maybe a spoiler?
That is the impression I got too. Looks like he's had pets in the past but with Ellie it seemed to be more than that. I wanted to put an arrow through his head the moment I saw him. To me he always seemed like a creeper.

DVAcme1076d ago

@brodychet: I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a pedophile, but he DID have sexual intentions towards her. But I wouldn't call it pedophilia, since first of all Ellie's a teenager(that's ephebophilia, and it's nowhere near as bad as straight-on little kids pedophilia) and second the desperation of any female companionship in the apocalypse would make anyone's standards relaxed.

However, the fact remains that David did not see Ellie as anything but prey and property, and that he's an AMAZING villain in how menacing he is. But also, the biggest thing about David is that, had the apocalypse not happened, he WOULD NOT be a villain. He'd be just an average joe like everyone else.

The scary part about the world of The Last Of Us is that morality and human emotion are replaced by sheer survival. Humanity is losing, both as a species and as a civilization. In fact, at the end of the game *MINOR SPOILERS* what's revealed is that the game's main argument is whether it's wise or even possible to keep our ideals and morals in the face of inevitable doom.

This is a beautiful game. Period.

bakagaijin781076d ago

@DVAcme, thats exactly how I saw it too. I think David saw Ellie as a female in a situation where there didn't seem to be any other females around. I don't think he was a pedophile; I saw him as a man who wanted a female for sexual reasons... and maybe even for genuine companionship.

brodychet1076d ago (Edited 1076d ago )

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@DVAcme You say it's not pedophilia because she's a teenager?

I'm pretty sure 14 still counts as pedophilia. What is 13 okay too since it's technically a "teenager"?

I'm sorry but it's straight up pedophilia. And I'm guessing you're going to say Bill wasn't homosexual as well? Because he was O_o

@bakagaijin78 Dude he decided to murder her after she declines his relationship offer. That's not someone who's looking for a genuine relationship. He's a pedobear. But he's a damn good character nevertheless.

itBourne1075d ago

This game is 20 years after the apocalypse, I would think 14 becomes an acceptable age, it was at many points throughout history. This isnt the world we live in today, its totally different. Also from what Nolan said, he did have a sexual interest in her. Joel is an INSANELY bad person as well. Probably what makes it worse for David is they essentially hunt humans. Not kill to survive but hunt them, at least that is what I got from one of the notes I found.

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WitWolfy1077d ago

The author must really be a fan of Nolan's work...

SethThePirate1077d ago

Actually no, I wrote this piece and generally I don't like Nolan North, think he's overused. He's essentially the Hank Azaria of the gaming world. Drake is a great role for him, but Deadpool, Superboy and Desmond are all a bit meh to me. For this role though, yeah I kinda loved him.

camel_toad1077d ago

@seththepirate

I agree but I'd also add The Penguin from Batman.

WitWolfy1077d ago (Edited 1077d ago )

Yeah I really disliked his persona in Batman: AC.. Dunno what he was thinking giving The Penguin an Australian accent...

brodychet1077d ago

and Dr. Richtofen from the Cod Zombies' Series.

Projekt1076d ago

I have a similar accent to Arkham City's Penguin and I'm not from Australia lol. Common mistake though so no worries.

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Ezz20131077d ago

yeah i was shocked when i saw he was David

really didn't see that coming at all

r211077d ago

Same here. NN has some crazy vocal range!

FrostyZipper1077d ago

Well written article imo. Up until the end I rather liked David too and it killed me when I realised that he was going to make his exit shortly after his abduction of Elli. The showdown with him in the restaurant was excellently done too, and easily one of the most chilling scenarios I've ever experienced in a video game.

WitWolfy1077d ago

Agreed...

*spoiler*

That restaurant scene had me on my toes just hiding from him!!!

tanookisuit1077d ago

Especially when the music ratchets up, every time you get a successful attack on him!

WitWolfy1077d ago (Edited 1077d ago )

Eeek double post!

Sketchy_Galore1077d ago

Spoliers...... I can't remember too many specifics but I got the impression there was always something a little darker about David. I recall some mention of Ellie being his latest 'pet' and I got the impression this meant he had had 'pets' in the past. He sounded a little too enamoured of Ellie when she was in the cell and he was telling her she was special. I didn't get the impression he was some heartless raper and pillager but I got the impression that maybe he might have pushed that relationship places it probably shouldn't have gone. I also remember getting the impression he let Ellie go to lead him to Joel. I should probably go back and play it again to be sure but those were just the impressions I had on my first playthrough.

camel_toad1077d ago (Edited 1077d ago )

Yeh I'm pretty sure, to put it bluntly, he screws his "pets" or something worse.

Valkyre1077d ago

^^Exactly... but it was such a well written character, because all the clues are there, and Naughty Dog treats her audience with respect, they will never go out and say "Hey David is a cannibalistic pedophile" and yet he is... and it is frightening that you learn these things piece by pice... and more so after actually spending sometime with him believing he is a cool guy...

Awesome character.

Also on the subject of treating the audience with respect, Naughty Dog did the same with Bill as well... nobody knows or even gets a clue that Bill is actually... gay, and yet you realise it after you leave town. No stereotypes no nothing could even remotely make you think something like that and yet it is true. Such well and respectfully written characters...

LoveOfTheGame1077d ago

I wouldn't go so far as to say there was no way to tell Bill was gay. They did do a good job not using stereotypes and making it slightly questionable, but it was pretty easy to tell Bill was gay. In the first 5 minutes you meet Bill he mentions his "partner", and I don't remember Bill being a cop or a lawyer.

lsujester1077d ago

But Joel had a partner in Tess without there being a big romance there. While I did infer that he was gay when he said that, I can see how it didn't click for others.

LoveOfTheGame1076d ago

Straight couples rarely, if ever, use the term partner for their significant other. While it is a common name used in same sex couples.

Also Bill has a little trouble getting to the word, so the second he said it was pretty obvious that Frank, was that the guy's name, were "partners".

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Flying_Squirrel1077d ago

Bang on the money (spoiler alert) - when the raiders arrive at the house with Joel and Ellie you hear them comment that she's not to be harmed as she's David latest 'pet' and that's not said in a nice way. I also think he was tracking her to find Joel. He was not a noble person at all as the article implies - it may be that things happened to him prior to the game that made him that way. Having said that, absolutely great voice acting which added to one of the greatest games ever made.

WitWolfy1077d ago (Edited 1077d ago )

*Spoiler*

Also what I liked about his character was that it seemed that even his followers were starting to doubt his leadership in the game.. So it could be that he screwed up A LOT in recent weeks/months leading up to Ellies kidnapping; making him more believable as a character showing himself has leader with flawed leadership characteristics.

A very well written character!

MikeyDucati11077d ago

The man was a pedophile. His character disgusted me.

stage881077d ago

But he was a great character for the game.

rdgneoz31076d ago

Pedophiles just seem to have a hard time fitting in :(

MikeyDucati11075d ago

A great character? The virus was a great character. You know who was really a great character? Ellie was a great character.

Just from my perspective, I have no positive notes to give to a man who likes to rape little girls. That crap disgusts me. To say he was a great character for the game is rather appalling.

The virus was a great character. His daughter was a great character. Ellie was a great character.

But a pedophile homo who probably was an outcast and did nasty things to little girls who were preyed on easily because of their innocence?

No, I won't go as far as to say "he was a great character for the game". That's nonsense. It's like people fascinated with Charles Manson, but he's a sick dude. I find no fascination with that crap.

stage881075d ago

@Mikey

Oh chill out. Talk about a massive overreaction.
Guess what, the character David, you know, the one that is made out of pixels doesn't actually exist. I'll let that sink in for you a moment.

Yes, there are terrible people in the world but in this instance it's all MADE UP. The character is great in the story as it brings more depth to having a post apocalyptic world where the true nature of people becomes prevalent. After the whole ordeal with David it brings Ellie & Joel a lot closer and builds upon their father and daughter relationship which is an extremely important and integral point of the game. Also the boss fight with David was extremely intense and added greatly to the atmosphere of the game.

I'm not disputing that there are some horrible people out there in the real world but this is a game. If you can't handle made up stories that deal with adult themes then stay away from mature games and also movies and TV shows. These are not for you.

MikeyDucati11074d ago

No, you chill out. I'm chill. What are you talking about? I can have disdain for a character if I choose to. What's it to you?

Why are you offended my individuality and my opinion? This is nonsense. Don't be silly and immature.

stage881074d ago

@Micky

It's your opinion which is fine but when you stay stuff like

"To say he was a great character for the game is rather appalling."
And
"No, I won't go as far as to say "he was a great character for the game". That's nonsense. It's like people fascinated with Charles Manson, but he's a sick dude."

It is utterly ridiculous. So by your logic people should be ashamed for liking a fictional character that adds an extremely important part to the plot because he's comitted terrible crimes as a villain.

So should the movie Hannibal not have Hannibal in it because he's a vile human being? Should The Dark Knight not have the Joker in it because he committed terrible atrocities?

Imagine TLoU without the whole Winter bit with David. The story wouldn't be half as emotional and character development would stagnate. The ending wouldn't have been believable.

It's one thing to have an infatuation with a character's evil deeds but its completely different to like a character for what they bring to the story.

MikeyDucati11068d ago

Ok but I can still feel the way I feel. Why are you even trying to debate with me about my opinion?

David was a disgusting character because he is a boy who preys upon those weaker than him. He doesn't have the inner strength to face those stronger than him. You saw that when he faced Joel.

Hannibal Lector I can respect because he is the complete opposite of David. He's not some weakling or punk. Hannibal actually kills the despicable.

Hannibal would have his way with a character like David. He would torture and kill that kind of person in fact. You wouldn't have even mentioned Hannibal if you actually read the books or even had some sort of understanding within your own nature. Because clearly I can recognize the difference between David and Hannibal.

So no, I cannot possibly sit here and say I enjoyed David's character because he added a certain flavor to the story.

That's nonsense because during times of the apocalyptic desolation, men like David would come to the forefront willing to prey upon people. If you look at history you would see such. I don't give such rewards to certain shards of the human race that is all too common. But most would compliment this dude when they lived sheltered lives and haven't seen the worst of mankind.

I'm a man of certain beliefs and principles. Giving compliments to a man like David, video game or not, will not be coming from my mouth. Period.

Mr-SellJack1077d ago

lmao i thought the article mentioned Joel and not David
this is biased,first part of TLOU is the reason why troy baker is the best now,should've replaced the headline"character"w ith supporting character that would've been much better,he wasn't that much implemented in the game but anyways outstanding performance by Nolan

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