After the Xbox 180, Can we Trust Microsoft?

gamrReview's Gordon Bryant: "Microsoft has a solid lineup, but in the end it's just not enough to overcome the sour taste they've left in my mouth due to this whole ordeal. Their push to limit consumer ownership makes me think that even if I bought one, they'd only find a way to ruin it for me, so I'd rather play it safe."

[XboxSeriesBest]

Apparently there is a lot of people out there who want to be watched while playing their inferior multiplats.

[allformats]

The simple is no. They will implement DRM again. Remember, Microsoft never said that they wouldn't implement this again... People are too trusting.

[Mr_Nuts]

Basicaly they are doing it to get people to buy one first, let the install base grow and then do it. Once they've made their money back they wont give a s***

[Runa216]

If they implement DRM after claiming no DRM is possible, then that's worthy of an "Other OS" type lawsuit. I certainly hope it doesn't come to that.

[user5575708]

they shouldn't have been trusted after the RROD problem after they knowingly put defective 360's on the market

trying to put DRM on a home console with a mandatory check in was just the last straw. now they pull a 180 to try and save the xbox one. and all they really did was destroy part of their fan base. if they lose that multiplatform crowd they're in trouble

@Mr_Nuts

i agree because if they can do a day one update removing the DRM whats to say that they won't just bring it back somewhere down the road

[dedicatedtogamers]

Why people would trust Microsoft after their 180 is beyond me.

Then again, why anyone thought MS would deliver on all their promises surrounding Kinect is beyond me.

[Runa216]

Some people are devout. I'm not sure about what the social phenomenon is called, but humans have a natural tendency to gravitate towards what they're familiar with or what their social peers are doing. The Xbox 360 was popular not because it was good (the console had astronomically high rates of failure), but because Sony's console was far too expensive and had nothing to offer.

That's why the mobs were so aggressive, they NEEDED to convince not only others but themselves that where they were was where they needed to be; not only did they want this to be true, but on a social/primal level, it was. That's where all their friends were, so that's where they needed to be. Even late in the Xbox 360's life, when Sony had a much, much better game lineup, equal/comparable online, better features, and an equal price point, people still played on Xbox because that's what they'd grown to become accustomed to.

That is why some people would have gladly bought an Xbox One. "I'm on Xbox, I will continue to support Xbox. After all, I have internet and live in the US, I can actually use the console without issue!"

Well, I imagine this generation is going to be something special. With both consoles touting Blu ray drives, 8 gigs of ram, similar performance and architecture, and game lists, it'll be fun to see who comes out on top based on exclusives, features, and options.

(Actually, some say the PS4 has 50% more processing capabilities).

[Smoovekid]

@XboxDone
But,but....... The cloud makes it more powerful /s

[Cam977]

Nice name. I personally won't be getting the Xbone because I see no reason to do so. Not only is it inferior to the well-priced PS4, but Microsoft are evident liars so I wouldn't ever trust them, moreover, they put profit before the consumer - that's a large "no-no" in my books, I'll never give them a dime. They also cut the exclusive support.
No thanks.

[MrSwankSinatra]

hell no, whats to stop them from implementing the DRM back into the xbox one. they'll probably get every gamer through the user end agreement. because we all know no one reads the user end agreements, they just go straight to agree.

[DxTrixterz]

No we can't trust them. If they did a 180 so easily they can do another 180 to bring all this crap drm back. They say they did this 180 because of people's feedback. That is bull****. They only did it because they noticed how much PS4 was destroying them with pre-orders. Once they get enough pre-orders and release X1 they'll do 180 again bringing all bad policies back. If they bring this all drm things back then I don't care anymore. I'm sure everybody noticed how I was bashing X1 in my comments here on N4G before 180. Now now so much but still. I will never forgive them for trying to screw me. As I was their customers for quite long time and that's how they tried to treat me. At least I'm thankful that they still somehow care about physical gaming. I've been a gamers for 7 years now and I've was always playing using physical method. That is play game (yes used evil me like buying used gvames is bad) put it in a console and play. Although I do some digital gaming it is not my main gaming method and will probably will never become one. Still after all this I will not forgiv them and me and my money will go to Sony and PS4.

[Cam977]

They probably will revert the changes when they've made their money back. They've lied before and put profits before the consumer. They're a bad company.

[Wizziokid]

no. This just shows MS have no idea what they are doing and can't stick to plans.

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

It makes you wonder about why Microsoft bought skype as well as the potential intrusive capability of the kinect camera.
All in all, MS are one of the very last companies I would put any trust in.

[headblackman]

Microsoft isn't your mother,wife, or president. its a damn video game business. this is about playing the beast games and getting the best experience. a lot of you people are strarting to sound like some real b*itches right about now. they made a bad decisions. the corrected that bad decision. now get over it.if you like the games, controller, features, Xbox live, and the extra cloud potiental, then buy the Xbox one. if not then go buy a system that gives you all of the things in entertainment that suites your needs. this isn't about trust at all. its about entertainment. get over it you f*ckN cry babies. nuff said.

[Runa216]

Making a bad decision is one thing.

Making a decision that actively takes away the consumer's rights is another whole issue.

And the Xbox doesn't have a particularly strong exclusive lineup outside of XBLA, the features are hidden behind a pay wall, Xbox Live is nothing special, etc.

Your arrogant demeanour and Master Chief avatar show that you're a fanboy.

I hate having to use that word.

[headblackman]

that's just pure ignorance and hate to even let any of that b.s. come out of your neck. Xbox live is the best online service to date. and it is a very big deal. only a fanbot would refute that. so slap yourself 10 time as for saying that dumb ass sh*t. and let's be real here, Xbox one had a way better games showing than ps4 by far. the games that really shined for the ps4 e3 showing was all multiplatform games. that's a little underwhelming :-/ no real gamer could deny the competition in that aspect. your hating ass is still trying to judge Xbox off of the wrong that they have already righted. get over it you lame. this thing is about games and the best experience and the Xbox brand has proven time after time that it is the system for the best experience (with the exception of fighting games which I hope that dpad is fixed this time around). so like what you unlike and I'll like what I like, but my choice will solely be based off of the complete gaming experience. not loyalty. I own every console known to man except the Wii u. I'm waiting for more games support for I spend that money.

[Runa216]

please stop talking, headblackman. You're drunk on fanboy rage.

[headblackman]

you calling me a fanboy makes no damn sense. I'm giving you facts. not personal opinion. you're vomiting fanbot claims that you already know is false. you said that the Xbox live network isn't nothing special? how ignorant is that when compared to everything else out there. come at me when you wanna make some sense with this conversation.

[XboxSeriesBest]

If you're willing to pay an Extra $100 for a rushed system with inferior specs then i'm sure you're are the only one making a bad decision. Xbox live is irrelevant now that PS Plus is offering a Robust experience comprised of free games along with some very interesting features for the price that Xbox live was originally introduced with. So enjoy your Bland milked franchises, sub-par apps and timed DLC. Xbox has nothing to offer come this next generation

[headblackman]

another cannot vomiting false info because they don't read or just can't read. you have no facts about anything being rushed at all. plus the damn thing hasn't even been released yet. and that b.s. about Xbox live not being relevant because of that Sony PS+ bull? you don't really believe that bull. that's just the PlayStation fanbot juice you're on. your really need to sober up and talk to me when you wanna start speaking truth and making sense. this site is for new and rumors. not b.s. and lies. get it right. and as for that 100 dollars crap, I don't mind paying for quality. I'm not some broke ass bum looking for everything to be cheap and given to ,e for nothing. step your life game up and stop looking for cheap handouts you bum.

[XboxSeriesBest]

Omai judging by all those mistakes in your reply you must be a little salty. Calm down Big Bertha we're just talking about games ;). Good to see that just like every M$ puppet you resort to anyone saying negative things about the xbox one as a "sony" or "nintendo" fanboy. Just because i speak positively about the PS4 doesn't mean that i will ride or die with it. And the money is far from an issue but it seems as though that you haven't learned the value of a dollar yet i suppose. Not everyone is looking to waste over 500 dollars on an inferior piece of hardware. But i understand that you can't comprehend not blowing all your mcdonald's pay check on xbox products.But i'll let you on a protip you wanna know how the wealthy stay wealthy. By not spending extra money when they don't have to. PS Plus will easily have savings 10x the amount that xbox live will provide. If you can't see that then you are just a blind sheep buddy

[horndog]

More of these articles is what we need. (S)

Arent you paranoid dimwitts taking this a little too far? . If you dont trust MS and their products dont buy.

[Runa216]

I am neither paranoid nor dimwitted. I just don't trust companies that treat me with such disrespect.