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Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

Is the PS4 console is designed to be connected in a 'permanent' way? What I'm asking is it will need to be connected all the time? And if so, how will this affect plans for PSN?

Cerny: PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and the updates for your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games.

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iGAM3R-VIII1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Finally, you gotta love Sony because they listen to all of their fans. That campaign started by NeoGAF users was brilliant and some of the Sony workers have replied and that is why I love the PlayStation community. Even the Kaz made a funny joke by saying "DRM will be heading to the Vita", (which is a game. I cannot wait until the E3 conference by Sony and I will praise them on.

Though I do hope the return of Kevin Butler at E3 2013 will make EVERY PS gamer happier and will for sure kick off E3 with a bang.

thechosenone1603d ago

Word. I wonder why they waited so long to report this info.

US8F1603d ago

Straight question = Straight answer. Better than Microsoft, where each person contradicts the other.

GamersRulz1603d ago

Yoshida and Denny already confirmed No-Online PS4, its just gaming media that kept bitching about it.

abzdine1603d ago

this is Cerny show! SONY PS4 ftw..

PLASTICA-MAN1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Always online or not, I will buy a PS4. I am always online with Steam, my iPad and my PS Vita. It doesn't bother me at all. On the contrary, I CAN'T BEAR BEING OFFLINE !

Enemy1603d ago

Thus thy Cerny has spoken, thus shall it be.

MysticStrummer1603d ago

"I wonder why they waited so long to report this info."

They'd said it before.

MrSwankSinatra1603d ago

um they confirmed this a long time ago, shuhei yoshida confirmed this.

thechosenone1603d ago

I'm talking about Mark though, he should of gone on record long ago. This is the first I'm hearing him say anything official on this issue.

darthv721603d ago

sony's 1st and 2nd party division will not mandate that games require an internet connection to play. Obviously that is different than multiplayer requiring it but still there is a benefit to having the system connected.

As Cerny pointed out that if you are connected, you get the updates among other things. Now still there is the looming idea that the 3rd parties can require an internet connection. There is a difference with sony doing things and 3rd parties doing things.

sony saying its up to the 3rd parties if they want to do it or not is not the same as saying it wont happen. People are looking at the surface and considering it a win when there is another layer that can manifest itself into something bigger over time.

The win for gamers is knowing that sony wont impose such sanctions. As for companies like EA, Activision, Capcom, Konami and the sort....the ball is in their court. If they choose to proceed, will the gamers avoid those games and only stick to buying the sony published titles or will they bite the bullet and simply buy the game and deal with whatever consequences come with them?

Bottom line, if a game is worth playing, people will succumb to the requirements to play it. That is neither a good/bad thing. it is just part of being a gamer.

ShwankyShpanky1603d ago

I know there have been other statements that indicate the PS4 will be playable entirely offline, but this particular statement is hardly a "straight answer."

>>Is the PS4 console is designed to be connected in a 'permanent' way? What I'm asking is it will need to be connected all the time?

>>PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense...

"is not a permanent connection in that sense?" C'mon... that's not a straight answer.

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"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."
http://www.officialplaystat...

Now *that's* a straight answer. ;-)

Boody-Bandit1603d ago

I knew Sony wouldn't implement unnecessary restrictions and fees. I can't wait for June 10th 9pm EST to see what's going on my list to pick up this Fall.

Outside_ofthe_Box1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

@darth

Mind telling me how this news confirms anything different that's in place now?

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but what's stopping a 3rd party publisher from releasing a game with DRM-mechanisms on the PS3, 360, or Wii U right now?

I always thought the worry was whether or not the console itself would require internet to function as opposed to whether or not if games would require it.

From my understanding this confirms that you can treat the PS4 as if it's the PSOne where you can go the entire generation of playing PS4 games without ever having to connect to the internet which was the main concern in the first place. Or so I thought?

MikeMyers1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and updates your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games."

Did he say you don't ever have to be connected?

SHORYUKEN1603d ago

They always stated they will not use DRM.

But Stupid Xfans are blind and deaf. They are just to ignorant to except what Sony says.

DragonKnight1603d ago

@ShwankySpanky and MikeMyers: Here's something you should pay attention to.

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer IF you ARE CONNECTED."

That's the straight answer right there. He flat out said right there that it's a choice for you to be connected or not. There was no hidden meaning, no avoidance, it was a straight answer.

I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation. Some people would only be happy if they literally heard/read "No, you don't have to be connected ever."

That's what Cerny said but in different words. Geez people, stop trying paint Sony with Microsoft's brush.

BattleAxe1603d ago

I hope Sony shows us some footage of 'Death Ray Manta' at E3 :D

Dee_911603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

I bet some people here still need an adult to cross the street.
my god.

read Outside_ofthe_Box comment until you get it.

SilentNegotiator1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Now hold on...always online wasn't still a question.

http://www.gamespot.com/new... <-- May 7th

The real question is used fees and DRM. Sony has suggested that they MIGHT not have anything, but that they might allow third parties to implement something.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

Be informed of the specifics, people. If we want to be treated right next gen, we have to know what we're at risk of. And for PS4, that's potentially used fees and DRM, not always online.

Foliage1603d ago

"I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation. Some people would only be happy if they literally heard/read 'No, you don't have to be connected ever.'"

It's a mentality that originated when Microsoft stepped into the scene. They made is so you cannot accept any statement or promise at word value. They intentionally have on multiple occasions pranced around topics by picking specific words. If you need an example; look no further than the show they are putting on now.

Sony gets painted with the same brush; as Microsoft has tainted everyone's expectations.

Arai1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

@ thechosenone:

That's because it's nothing new, here's a post by the guy that started the whole DRM campaign.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Sony made it crystal clear in February that the system won't require a connection in order to function (on several occasions to several sites).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It's the Xbox fans that started this mess and threw Sony under the bus, only to spread further like wildfire by uninformed media.

What started out by one party ended up being a united fist with all parties included and that's a lovely sight to behold.

The community's voice is now heard loud and clear and that's exactly what Sony needed to fend off the developers, because it's them that want DRM so badly.

All in all...gamers stood united as they should when companies try and pull these kind of pranks.

amiga-man1603d ago

A real positive not requiring online suggests that DRM is not part of their plans either ( if your not online how can they check your disk)

Sony is certainly putting gamers first and deserve our support as gamers.

xxLuckyStrike1603d ago

Doesn't mean they wont run checks when you pop up online. But never the less at least Sony still gives us gamers the OPTION!!!

shinrock1603d ago

Because their doing the same as M$. They didn't want the flak that M$ got for doing the same thing.

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yewles11603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Listen to their fans? This is OLD!

"Michael Denny: So I think two of the other pillars we talked about in-terms of design were simplicity and immediacy. 'Even taking back a step from here, PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all.' So it depends what level you want to use these feature sets at. So with ’simple’ and ’immediacy’ we want it so that everything is one button click away, for example. And ’immediacy’ takes down these barriers that can be frustrating to gamers between the player getting access to the content."

http://www.officialplaystat...

It's whether or not Sony will implement used game measures on their own titles as opposed to anyone else since it's optional that's eating at people...

thechosenone1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Yeah but when the info comes from the big man himself so you know it's official and won't be subject to change.

Salooh1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

Who am kidding. This is not english. if you reverse the sentence you will see a secret language that say PS4 have DRM.

NarooN1603d ago

"It's whether or not Sony will implement used game measures on their own titles as opposed to anyone else since it's optional that's eating at people... "

This might still be in the air, but rationally speaking, Sony is well aware of the shit-storm that Microsoft has generated -- there's no way they'd be dumb enough to implement these measures.

Even Shuhei-san joked about DRM recently.

torchic1603d ago

but to implement a used game restriction internet is needed, meaning a constant connection to the internet (or every 24hrs for example) and that's why the question never died.

if they do implement a used game feature I wonder how it would work without internet...

yewles11603d ago

@torchic

"if they do implement a used game feature I wonder how it would work without internet..."

That depends on the game itself. It's not a mandate for the console or service.

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Why o why1603d ago

Sony done spoke....but people still try and group them and ms together. STOP

TwistedMetal1603d ago

i agree sony said no always online and they dont require drm for games. since sony doesnt make you go online ever with the ps4 game publishers cant reall stop used games sales .

ps4 is th best next gen option and the only next gen option for gamers unless you go pc but then you would be missing games like gta5 and red dead redemption and such.

people need to stop being xbox one fanboys and join the ps4 team because its the best team.

GribbleGrunger1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Link bookmarked for educational reasons.

MariaHelFutura1603d ago

Such a beautiful moment for some, such an insanely frustrating moment for others. Bring on E3.

http://i.minus.com/i87zYV0v...

THE-COMMANDER1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

You and your Kaz GIFs, LOL!
Keep them coming!

THE-COMMANDER1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Oops double post, sorry.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1603d ago

You are insane to think that. Ya, go ahead and play gimped versions of PS4 games without once hooking your console up to the net.

There is a HUGE difference from being ALWAYS online to once every 24 hours. LOL at you guys making this old news something more than it is. I can't wait for the publishers to tell you what PS4 games have to be online to play. I can't wait.

Bookmarked for gloating purposes when this goes down.

Godmars2901603d ago

It wasn't going to be always online when that campaign began.

Used games are the only real concern.

Mr_Nuts1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

I'm kind of guessing this debunks the PS4 blocking used games since you could get away with it if you don't need to be always connected...since they can't do a system check to see if it's pre owned or not through an online check.

fermcr1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

"Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected""

What about the PS4 games that have Online DRM ? How's that going to work if your not online ?

MariaHelFutura1603d ago

I imagine they will work, but not online. Just a guess...

Foliage1603d ago

What games that have online DRM?

Stop listening to rumours and believing them all.

Jakens1603d ago

PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school.

Outside_ofthe_Box1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

The same thing that happens if a PC, PS3, 360, or Wii U game has online DRM.

If there is game that has DRM then you have the choice of leaving your console connected to the internet.

If you don't like that the game has DRM then don't buy it simple.

RIP_Cell1603d ago

@Foliage

sony already confirmed each game can have online registration DRM, that's up to the publisher.

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aviator1891603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Does this mean 24 hour checks or any sort of online checks that are needed to play single player games are absent from ps4?

lastofgen1603d ago

I don't understand...
This is exactly what microsoft said about the xbox one and people bashed them like no other.

Sony says the same thing and people here are singing praises and calling Sony things like 'straight-answer Sony??' -You do realize that not having to be required to be always online or connected doesn't leave out having to connect to the internet between periods of time??

Sony could have simply stated that you won't need an internet connection at all to play single-player games, but the company, not unlike microsoft, is still dodging that question.

Why does Sony get a pass with this and microsoft doesn't?

Are we really going to be so biased?

MariaHelFutura1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."

http://www.officialplaystat...

http://i.imgur.com/AJS7VHe....

1603d ago
RIP_Cell1603d ago

@MariaHelFutura

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."

that doesn't mean all games can work offline

XBone can be enjoyed without Internet connection at all as well, the blu ray player will still work.

whoyouwit041603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

Are you people serious, This is proof that you sony fans see thing that are not there. this man quote was

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and updates your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games."

which is almost identical to what microsoft said he never once said that you wouldn't have to check in after a certain amount of time.

This is microsoft's Stephen Brashear quote.

"There's been a lot of talk about the new Xbox having to be always on the Internet. Can you expand on that?"

Stephen Brashear

A: Xbox One needs to connect to the Internet. There are many of the services that are just powered by the Internet, streaming movies, playing multiplayer (games), things like that. If we can't get to the Internet, you can play your single-player games assuming they don't take advantage of something on the Internet that it needs. You can watch Blu-ray movies, you can watch TV. But when you think about the value proposition that we are creating, this is an Internet native device. And so much of that experience is really predicated on getting that content there."

he clearly says that you can play single player off line, and as for the every 24 hour check in; that was never confirmed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sto...

Now please explain how their answers were different. neither are permanently connected, and both use the internet to enhance your experience, but when sony does it it's cool. i guess what you peopl are seeing that's not there is NO DRM which is never mention.

rainslacker1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

This part

Sony - "IF you are connected"

and this part

MS - "Xbox One NEEDS to connect to the Internet"

On the PS4, you don't ever have to connect to the internet. Otherwise they connect for the same reasons, with MS having confirmed other reasons related to DRM.

Outside_ofthe_Box1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

For the XB1 statement it *explicitly* states "needs." Read the the quote for the PS4 and show where the word "need" or the like is said or even remotely implied.

Also there are several previous quotes on the XB1 that back up/suggest that you can't be offline with the XB1 forever whereas for the PS4 the closest quote you'll find that suggests that you might need to be online from time to time are the ones that simply say "it's not always online" or "it's not a permanent online system" which is where you and others are grasping at straws at to say it's proof that you have to eventually connect to the internet or that it's the same stance as Microsoft.

stuna11603d ago

It seems you just proved the sony fans case! Did you even read the articles you just linked?

Not only that, you just proved that XBone and the PS4 are nothing alike as far as restrictions go. So in other words you just gave people a solid reason to go with PS4 over XBone

showtimefolks1603d ago

top 3-4 comments are all straight forwards yet stealth fanboys disagree and want DRM

sony is back with a vengeance and its not good news for xbox brand

E3 MS bring you A+ game, that Plus is for the fact you didn't even bring your F- game on may 21st

rainslacker1603d ago

Kevin Butler coming on stage to have one of his "true gamer" speeches like his other E3, where he points out that true gamers don't want all that crap would be pretty epic.

stuna11603d ago

Now would be the perfect time for that speech , because it speaks against everything that we are facing this coming generation.

2v11603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

this is a good choice because I will not get rape by console manufacturers,i repeat I will not pay more than what I have to,if some people have joy in been a sheep paying more than playing then payup sucka

kenshiro1001603d ago

Sony always gets to the point.

I like that.

ShwankyShpanky1603d ago

@DragonKnight

"I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation."

Because some of us understand the principles of PR speak. Words are often carefully selected to imply one thing when a specific reading in fact reveals conditionals or obfuscations.

This is why MS is able to issue statements in regards to "possible scenarios" and soforth. These types of word games are not unique to MS, they are at the core of corporate PR in general.

As I said, there already has been a statement from Sony regarding offline use that doesn't have the same wiggle room that this statement from Cerny technically contains.

ANIALATOR1361603d ago

it wasnt kaz it was yoshida

Maddens Raiders1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

2006 to this moment....smh.

It was a hell of a road, but you did it again Sony. Good fkn job.

http://bit.ly/L5c9x

Psn8001603d ago

Yeah Kudos Sony for listening to your loyal fan-base so why can't Ms do the same ?
Because I know the Ms ethos is pure Greed .

TAURUS-5551603d ago

thank youu SONY you really know what we want.

"always connected" is ridiculous and disgusting.

ChiaPet1603d ago

the funny thing is that Xbox One won't require a constant connection either, so I don't really get what the big deal is here...