Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

Is the PS4 console is designed to be connected in a 'permanent' way? What I'm asking is it will need to be connected all the time? And if so, how will this affect plans for PSN?

Cerny: PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and the updates for your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games.

[iGAM3R-VIII]

Finally, you gotta love Sony because they listen to all of their fans. That campaign started by NeoGAF users was brilliant and some of the Sony workers have replied and that is why I love the PlayStation community. Even the Kaz made a funny joke by saying "DRM will be heading to the Vita", (which is a game. I cannot wait until the E3 conference by Sony and I will praise them on.

Though I do hope the return of Kevin Butler at E3 2013 will make EVERY PS gamer happier and will for sure kick off E3 with a bang.

[thechosenone]

Word. I wonder why they waited so long to report this info.

[US8F]

Straight question = Straight answer. Better than Microsoft, where each person contradicts the other.

[MariaHelFutura]

To let things brew up.

[GamersRulz]

Yoshida and Denny already confirmed No-Online PS4, its just gaming media that kept bitching about it.

[abzdine]

this is Cerny show! SONY PS4 ftw..

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Always online or not, I will buy a PS4. I am always online with Steam, my iPad and my PS Vita. It doesn't bother me at all. On the contrary, I CAN'T BEAR BEING OFFLINE !

[Enemy]

Thus thy Cerny has spoken, thus shall it be.

[MysticStrummer]

"I wonder why they waited so long to report this info."

They'd said it before.

[MrSwankSinatra]

um they confirmed this a long time ago, shuhei yoshida confirmed this.

[thechosenone]

I'm talking about Mark though, he should of gone on record long ago. This is the first I'm hearing him say anything official on this issue.

[darthv72]

sony's 1st and 2nd party division will not mandate that games require an internet connection to play. Obviously that is different than multiplayer requiring it but still there is a benefit to having the system connected.

As Cerny pointed out that if you are connected, you get the updates among other things. Now still there is the looming idea that the 3rd parties can require an internet connection. There is a difference with sony doing things and 3rd parties doing things.

sony saying its up to the 3rd parties if they want to do it or not is not the same as saying it wont happen. People are looking at the surface and considering it a win when there is another layer that can manifest itself into something bigger over time.

The win for gamers is knowing that sony wont impose such sanctions. As for companies like EA, Activision, Capcom, Konami and the sort....the ball is in their court. If they choose to proceed, will the gamers avoid those games and only stick to buying the sony published titles or will they bite the bullet and simply buy the game and deal with whatever consequences come with them?

Bottom line, if a game is worth playing, people will succumb to the requirements to play it. That is neither a good/bad thing. it is just part of being a gamer.

[ShwankyShpanky]

I know there have been other statements that indicate the PS4 will be playable entirely offline, but this particular statement is hardly a "straight answer."

>>Is the PS4 console is designed to be connected in a 'permanent' way? What I'm asking is it will need to be connected all the time?

>>PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense...

"is not a permanent connection in that sense?" C'mon... that's not a straight answer.

---

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."
http://www.officialplaystat...

Now *that's* a straight answer. ;-)

[Boody-Bandit]

I knew Sony wouldn't implement unnecessary restrictions and fees. I can't wait for June 10th 9pm EST to see what's going on my list to pick up this Fall.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

@darth

Mind telling me how this news confirms anything different that's in place now?

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but what's stopping a 3rd party publisher from releasing a game with DRM-mechanisms on the PS3, 360, or Wii U right now?

I always thought the worry was whether or not the console itself would require internet to function as opposed to whether or not if games would require it.

From my understanding this confirms that you can treat the PS4 as if it's the PSOne where you can go the entire generation of playing PS4 games without ever having to connect to the internet which was the main concern in the first place. Or so I thought?

[MikeMyers]

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and updates your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games."

Did he say you don't ever have to be connected?

[SHORYUKEN]

They always stated they will not use DRM.

But Stupid Xfans are blind and deaf. They are just to ignorant to except what Sony says.

[DragonKnight]

@ShwankySpanky and MikeMyers: Here's something you should pay attention to.

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer IF you ARE CONNECTED."

That's the straight answer right there. He flat out said right there that it's a choice for you to be connected or not. There was no hidden meaning, no avoidance, it was a straight answer.

I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation. Some people would only be happy if they literally heard/read "No, you don't have to be connected ever."

That's what Cerny said but in different words. Geez people, stop trying paint Sony with Microsoft's brush.

[BattleAxe]

I hope Sony shows us some footage of 'Death Ray Manta' at E3 :D

[Dee_91]

I bet some people here still need an adult to cross the street.
my god.

read Outside_ofthe_Box comment until you get it.

[SilentNegotiator]

Now hold on...always online wasn't still a question.

http://www.gamespot.com/new... <-- May 7th

The real question is used fees and DRM. Sony has suggested that they MIGHT not have anything, but that they might allow third parties to implement something.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

Be informed of the specifics, people. If we want to be treated right next gen, we have to know what we're at risk of. And for PS4, that's potentially used fees and DRM, not always online.

[Foliage]

"I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation. Some people would only be happy if they literally heard/read 'No, you don't have to be connected ever.'"

It's a mentality that originated when Microsoft stepped into the scene. They made is so you cannot accept any statement or promise at word value. They intentionally have on multiple occasions pranced around topics by picking specific words. If you need an example; look no further than the show they are putting on now.

Sony gets painted with the same brush; as Microsoft has tainted everyone's expectations.

[Arai]

@ thechosenone:

That's because it's nothing new, here's a post by the guy that started the whole DRM campaign.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Sony made it crystal clear in February that the system won't require a connection in order to function (on several occasions to several sites).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It's the Xbox fans that started this mess and threw Sony under the bus, only to spread further like wildfire by uninformed media.

What started out by one party ended up being a united fist with all parties included and that's a lovely sight to behold.

The community's voice is now heard loud and clear and that's exactly what Sony needed to fend off the developers, because it's them that want DRM so badly.

All in all...gamers stood united as they should when companies try and pull these kind of pranks.

[amiga-man]

A real positive not requiring online suggests that DRM is not part of their plans either ( if your not online how can they check your disk)

Sony is certainly putting gamers first and deserve our support as gamers.

[xxLuckyStrike]

Doesn't mean they wont run checks when you pop up online. But never the less at least Sony still gives us gamers the OPTION!!!

[shinrock]

Because their doing the same as M$. They didn't want the flak that M$ got for doing the same thing.

[yewles1]

Listen to their fans? This is OLD!

"Michael Denny: So I think two of the other pillars we talked about in-terms of design were simplicity and immediacy. 'Even taking back a step from here, PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all.' So it depends what level you want to use these feature sets at. So with ’simple’ and ’immediacy’ we want it so that everything is one button click away, for example. And ’immediacy’ takes down these barriers that can be frustrating to gamers between the player getting access to the content."

http://www.officialplaystat...

It's whether or not Sony will implement used game measures on their own titles as opposed to anyone else since it's optional that's eating at people...

[thechosenone]

Yeah but when the info comes from the big man himself so you know it's official and won't be subject to change.

[Salooh]

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

(PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all)

Who am kidding. This is not english. if you reverse the sentence you will see a secret language that say PS4 have DRM.

[NarooN]

"It's whether or not Sony will implement used game measures on their own titles as opposed to anyone else since it's optional that's eating at people... "

This might still be in the air, but rationally speaking, Sony is well aware of the shit-storm that Microsoft has generated -- there's no way they'd be dumb enough to implement these measures.

Even Shuhei-san joked about DRM recently.

[torchic]

but to implement a used game restriction internet is needed, meaning a constant connection to the internet (or every 24hrs for example) and that's why the question never died.

if they do implement a used game feature I wonder how it would work without internet...

[yewles1]

@torchic

"if they do implement a used game feature I wonder how it would work without internet..."

That depends on the game itself. It's not a mandate for the console or service.

[Why o why]

Sony done spoke....but people still try and group them and ms together. STOP

[TwistedMetal]

i agree sony said no always online and they dont require drm for games. since sony doesnt make you go online ever with the ps4 game publishers cant reall stop used games sales .

ps4 is th best next gen option and the only next gen option for gamers unless you go pc but then you would be missing games like gta5 and red dead redemption and such.

people need to stop being xbox one fanboys and join the ps4 team because its the best team.

[GribbleGrunger]

Link bookmarked for educational reasons.

[MariaHelFutura]

Such a beautiful moment for some, such an insanely frustrating moment for others. Bring on E3.

http://i.minus.com/i87zYV0v...

[THE-COMMANDER]

You and your Kaz GIFs, LOL!
Keep them coming!

[THE-COMMANDER]

Oops double post, sorry.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

You are insane to think that. Ya, go ahead and play gimped versions of PS4 games without once hooking your console up to the net.

There is a HUGE difference from being ALWAYS online to once every 24 hours. LOL at you guys making this old news something more than it is. I can't wait for the publishers to tell you what PS4 games have to be online to play. I can't wait.

Bookmarked for gloating purposes when this goes down.

[kenshiro100]

You mad bro?

[insomnium2]

LOL midnighter is butthurt.

[Godmars290]

It wasn't going to be always online when that campaign began.

Used games are the only real concern.

[Mr_Nuts]

I'm kind of guessing this debunks the PS4 blocking used games since you could get away with it if you don't need to be always connected...since they can't do a system check to see if it's pre owned or not through an online check.

[b_one]

its far from over.

[fermcr]

"Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected""

What about the PS4 games that have Online DRM ? How's that going to work if your not online ?

[MariaHelFutura]

I imagine they will work, but not online. Just a guess...

[Foliage]

What games that have online DRM?

Stop listening to rumours and believing them all.

[Jakens]

PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

The same thing that happens if a PC, PS3, 360, or Wii U game has online DRM.

If there is game that has DRM then you have the choice of leaving your console connected to the internet.

If you don't like that the game has DRM then don't buy it simple.

[RIP_Cell]

@Foliage

sony already confirmed each game can have online registration DRM, that's up to the publisher.

[aviator189]

Does this mean 24 hour checks or any sort of online checks that are needed to play single player games are absent from ps4?

[lastofgen]

nope, imo.

[lastofgen]

I don't understand...
This is exactly what microsoft said about the xbox one and people bashed them like no other.

Sony says the same thing and people here are singing praises and calling Sony things like 'straight-answer Sony??' -You do realize that not having to be required to be always online or connected doesn't leave out having to connect to the internet between periods of time??

Sony could have simply stated that you won't need an internet connection at all to play single-player games, but the company, not unlike microsoft, is still dodging that question.

Why does Sony get a pass with this and microsoft doesn't?

Are we really going to be so biased?

[MariaHelFutura]

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."

http://www.officialplaystat...

http://i.imgur.com/AJS7VHe....

[RIP_Cell]

@MariaHelFutura

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."

that doesn't mean all games can work offline

XBone can be enjoyed without Internet connection at all as well, the blu ray player will still work.

[whoyouwit04]

Are you people serious, This is proof that you sony fans see thing that are not there. this man quote was

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and updates your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games."

which is almost identical to what microsoft said he never once said that you wouldn't have to check in after a certain amount of time.

This is microsoft's Stephen Brashear quote.

"There's been a lot of talk about the new Xbox having to be always on the Internet. Can you expand on that?"

Stephen Brashear

A: Xbox One needs to connect to the Internet. There are many of the services that are just powered by the Internet, streaming movies, playing multiplayer (games), things like that. If we can't get to the Internet, you can play your single-player games assuming they don't take advantage of something on the Internet that it needs. You can watch Blu-ray movies, you can watch TV. But when you think about the value proposition that we are creating, this is an Internet native device. And so much of that experience is really predicated on getting that content there."

he clearly says that you can play single player off line, and as for the every 24 hour check in; that was never confirmed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sto...

Now please explain how their answers were different. neither are permanently connected, and both use the internet to enhance your experience, but when sony does it it's cool. i guess what you peopl are seeing that's not there is NO DRM which is never mention.

[rainslacker]

This part

Sony - "IF you are connected"

and this part

MS - "Xbox One NEEDS to connect to the Internet"

On the PS4, you don't ever have to connect to the internet. Otherwise they connect for the same reasons, with MS having confirmed other reasons related to DRM.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

For the XB1 statement it *explicitly* states "needs." Read the the quote for the PS4 and show where the word "need" or the like is said or even remotely implied.

Also there are several previous quotes on the XB1 that back up/suggest that you can't be offline with the XB1 forever whereas for the PS4 the closest quote you'll find that suggests that you might need to be online from time to time are the ones that simply say "it's not always online" or "it's not a permanent online system" which is where you and others are grasping at straws at to say it's proof that you have to eventually connect to the internet or that it's the same stance as Microsoft.

[stuna1]

It seems you just proved the sony fans case! Did you even read the articles you just linked?

Not only that, you just proved that XBone and the PS4 are nothing alike as far as restrictions go. So in other words you just gave people a solid reason to go with PS4 over XBone

[showtimefolks]

top 3-4 comments are all straight forwards yet stealth fanboys disagree and want DRM

sony is back with a vengeance and its not good news for xbox brand

E3 MS bring you A+ game, that Plus is for the fact you didn't even bring your F- game on may 21st

[rainslacker]

Kevin Butler coming on stage to have one of his "true gamer" speeches like his other E3, where he points out that true gamers don't want all that crap would be pretty epic.

[stuna1]

Now would be the perfect time for that speech , because it speaks against everything that we are facing this coming generation.

[2v1]

this is a good choice because I will not get rape by console manufacturers,i repeat I will not pay more than what I have to,if some people have joy in been a sheep paying more than playing then payup sucka

[kenshiro100]

Sony always gets to the point.

I like that.

[ShwankyShpanky]

@DragonKnight

"I don't understand why people need specifically worded sentences to see direct confirmation."

Because some of us understand the principles of PR speak. Words are often carefully selected to imply one thing when a specific reading in fact reveals conditionals or obfuscations.

This is why MS is able to issue statements in regards to "possible scenarios" and soforth. These types of word games are not unique to MS, they are at the core of corporate PR in general.

As I said, there already has been a statement from Sony regarding offline use that doesn't have the same wiggle room that this statement from Cerny technically contains.

[Maddens Raiders]

2006 to this moment....smh.

It was a hell of a road, but you did it again Sony. Good fkn job.

http://bit.ly/L5c9x

[Psn800]

Yeah Kudos Sony for listening to your loyal fan-base so why can't Ms do the same ?
Because I know the Ms ethos is pure Greed .

[ChiaPet]

the funny thing is that Xbox One won't require a constant connection either, so I don't really get what the big deal is here...

[KingKelloggTheWH]

Good to hear(again),I dont want to be tethered down by having to always be connected.

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Me neither.Online 24hr checks are ridiculous.

In Cerny Computer Entertainment i trust.

[MariaHelFutura]

I told you so.

http://i.minus.com/i87zYV0v...

[stage88]

PS4 = SOLD!

Good job with none of this 24 hr Internet connection crap.

[MASTER_RAIDEN]

doesnt change a thing. im still buying a ps4(:

[ElitaStorm]

can you read the headline again, please?

[mushroomwig]

This STILL doesn't answer whether or not the system has to be connected AT ALL. It's great news that we don't have to be connected permanently, but what about occasionally?

@NarooN

Thanks for replying, my problem is how people never seem to give you a straight answer. 'PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system' can be interpreted in different ways, if somebody just came out and said "The PS4 doesn't have to be connected at all unless you want to" then I'd be happy. Instead we're treated to cryptic comments like "It's not a permanent connection system".

Just give me a straight answer, that's all I want.

[NarooN]

If you wanna download patches and content from the PS Store and be connected with others, obviously you'll have to connect. But the fact that they said you *don't need* to be signed in should answer your concern fairly easily.

It eludes me why people try to find hidden meanings in very simple statements when it's obvious there's no hidden connotation or anything being left out...

[Man-E-Faces]

Many new games that require a firmware update have that update on disc, as for patches those mostly involve the multiplayer side, so you can really enjoy your game without updating at all. Of course there are a few exceptions where a patch beefs up the single player mode, an is example GT5 but these games are rare and a bit of research before buying a game can give you insight if the game is complete/gimped or game breaking bug ridden.
edit: If you want a straight answer then just look at your PS3 as it is right now, the choice of being offline/online is yours with added benefits if you sign in.

[Hicken]

It can't get too much more straight than what Cerny said, especially when you factor in everything AFTER the line you quote.

If Sony says they're not doing any DRM, and the ONLY WAY to have it as part of the system is for online connections, and Sony has said that there's too much of the world where internet isn't reliable or fast enough for mandatory requirements, then why on earth would you assume that the system would NEED some sort of connection?

There's just too much information out there already that tells you their plans; by now, they shouldn't even NEED to be blunt.

[Foxhound922]

Good, that's how gaming should be. No required or restricted Bullshit

[Sarobi]

Cerny has spoken!

[GiantFriendlyCrab]

do you need Internet at all to play ps4 games? Thats the question that should have been asked

[Enemy]

Doesn't change a thing, Sony. STILL not buying

(an Xbox One)

[MRMagoo123]

i c what u did thar lol

[lastofgen]

lol, what??
It seems as if sony will be doing the same thing as Microsoft (they even said the same thing!) and yet your are praising sony for that??

Well...it seems as if people on this website really are biased. Shame.

[SpinalRemains]

Are you reading properly?

MS console needs to be on data daily so nanny can check up on you.

PS4 needs no data connection to play.

How is that similar again?
Or bias?

[merciless]

Just

I mean

\0/

[Talamak]

Google translate can be such a frustrating read sometimes but nonetheless good news

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Thank God!

[MRMagoo123]

are you after more bubbles ? where you not bagging sony just the other day ?

@yakuzaz

Jeez how plain and simple can it be, unless you want to update and get patches internet connection is not required and even then you prob can get them from a disc or usb. Its not some cryptic thing going on like the da vinci code its plain and simple.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Bagging Sony? No.

The victim of an Internet witch hunt lead by a couple of lunatic rabid fanboys? Some of whom have multiple accounts. Yes. Read my post history. Only an idiot would disagree with what I said.

And if I wanted more bubbles I would just do what everyone else does, start another account. But I like to play fair, and I can always make my point in one or two posts anyway.

[CaEsAr-]

This man is genius.

[GamersHeaven]

Smart keep it simple don't force stuff on gamers the more options the merrier.

Wii U + PS4 all I need.

[Ashunderfire86]

Sony better than Kinect.

[SpinalRemains]

Thuper!

Gamefly awaits next gen

[Goro]

Won't require to "ALWAYS" be connected, it will probably be like Xbox and need to be connected every 24 hours

[sway_z]

I'm afraid it's a 'Catch 22' and not all good news....

Sony won't require PS4 to be connected to the net to play their games or force an online game registration for their own titles, but some third party publishers can if they want to.

Basically means it's possible for some games not to start at all without an internet connection...and new retail games will carry a registration code in each case.

So at least Sony didn't build it into the hardware, but yup, you should all blame MS/EA for orchestrating the eventual death of used games ;(

[SpinalRemains]

They're not out yet. Its not too late to resist and buy smart.

[SnotyTheRocket]

Why the hell would any third part publishers do it on consoles? They'd lose a ton of money. It would be a stupid movie.

[Angeljuice]

@Sway_z

Some games are internet only games. They will require an internet connection. Duck based games will require the disk ala PS360 for verification. As with PS3 now, if you don't register on PSN after a while, your PSN bought games will deactivate until you sign in again. This however takes weeks or months ( I noticed after 6 months). The bottom line is !!! Don't buy internet only games or buy games on line IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET!!! Follow this rule and you won't go far wrong.

Duck = Disk (it got auto-corrected).

[PANTHER1030]

Yeah Sony you are great!

[MisfitsInc]

thank you Sony

[og1kenob]

That is y iam getting a ps4

[abc1233]

The interviewer phrased the question poorly, he only asked if the PS4 needed to have a permanent connection. It could always require a connection once a day as with the X1. Having said that, we haven't really heard anything which would suggest that it does require a connection, just saying this story is pretty pointless.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

"PlayStation 4 is not a permanent connection system in that sense, but the experience is much richer if you are connected. You will have access to digital content and updates your games, along with a wide range of social functions: upload videos and screenshots, see your friends play and interact with them in various ways within the games."

that was the response to "Will the PS4 console is designed to be connected in a 'permanent'? What I ask is will need to be connected all the time? And if so, how will this affect plans for PSN?"

How about will the Playstation 4 require an internet connection? Not connected all the time but will it be similar to the Xbox One in that it needs a connection every 24hrs or whatever time..that is the question I think Sony needs to answer.

[lildudexst]

guy ps3 doing this shit now. if want play game online or injoy watching video staying update on PlayStation home you better get ass online or nun that good shit for you :)plane and simple why you always online console for some people are poor can't get connected at momment so they have to wait buy internet or go to a friend house.

[AdventurerDonLocke]

BOOM.

[MariaHelFutura]

SHAKALAKA

[fsfsxii]

Now to confirm no used games blocking...

[o-Sunny-o]

Means Sony has ears.
Microsoft has eyes(Kinect).

[MAULxx]

I don't think this proves anything except that you don't need a constant internet connection. His answer leaves alot of room for the 24 hour check in & DRM. Everyone is tap dancing around these issues.

I'm waiting for a clearer answer from Sony.

[Deadpool101]

I agree. The wrong question was asked. The X1 doesn't require a permanent connection either, it's the "check in" that has people up in arms and unfortunately this interview doesnt confirm that the PS4 wont do something similar. Fingers crossed both parties clear this matter up for us at E3

[mmj]

What he described is the same as PS3 and 360, you don't have to connect but how will you will get your updates etc if you don't? fact is though people without available internet connections will still be able to play the games they have bought.

[Bhuahahaha]

"if you buy a game digitally will not need to wait for the whole game to load before you start playing. PS4 titles are designed to allow you to play once you've downloaded only a small part of the data of the game, and the rest of the game is downloading while you play."

wohoooooo gotta love this one

[James-GAMES]

does anyone know if you'll be able to have free online?

[TemplarDante]

Thankyou Sony.
For not being a wicked evil corporation that wants to gather data using a mandatory peripheral and then sell the data it gathers to 3rd parties.
Thankyou, for NOT being Micro$oft Corporation.
And thank you Mark Cerny.
For not being a fake corporate suit, like Don Matrick.

[SlavisH2]

Who are these people that can afford a HDTV+PS4+GAMEs but DONT have internet? WHO ARE YOU?

[TemplarDante]

There are lots of countries in the world that lack good internet infrastructure, but have HDTVs and PS3+games.
For me, the problem is two fold.
I have great internet at home.
At college I have NO DSL in my dorm.
At home, despite having a great line, I have a 20GB cap per month. As it stands, I go through that in two and a half weeks..
With an Xbone constantly gathering data, downloading ad's and other crap, its going to eat up my badwidth needlessly.
As it stands on PS3, due to the fact 1GB of bandwidth is $10 US in my country, I only sign in to PSN when I play multiplayer. SP games, like Ni No Kuni, I dont sign in. Thats how I save bandwidth.

So, internet requirement is not the only problem. Bandwith caps are too.

[FlunkinMonkey]

Complete ignorance. Be quiet.

[Plagasx]

If Sony was a girl, I would make sweet, sweet love to her.

[masa2009]

I don't know what that's supposed to prove.
Xbox One is not always connected either.

But it doesn't mean that PS4 will not force you to be connected once during install in order to tie your purchased game to your PSN account, preventing you from lending it to friends just like Xbox One.

I think a lot of people are in for a shock when Sony reveals its DRM policy, and it turns out to be surprisingly close to that of Xbox One.
It's obvious that these DRM policies have been determined in cooperation with publishers, and I don't see MS going for it if Sony doesn't. Sony is being shifty as well here.

[ShwankyShpanky]

>>But it doesn't mean that PS4 will not force you to be connected once during install in order to tie your purchased game to your PSN account, preventing you from lending it to friends just like Xbox One.

No, but this pretty much does:

"PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all."

-VP of worldwide studios Michael Denny

http://www.officialplaystat...

[sway_z]

@masa2009

Well I guess you're a hopeful little thing aren't you?

Wishing and a hoping Sony drop the ball....

Let's sing-a-long together....

'You're wishing on a star...to find out how we are...wishing on a star...MS taking DRM tooo faaaar...and ya wishing on a rainbow, that Sony fails, and ya wishing on a slip up...you fan boys fail...wishing on a star....'

Lol

#ps4playgames

[masa2009]

Whatever dude. I own a PS3, I owned a PS1, PS2 and Vita. I also own a 360. I'm on neither side.
I don't care about either brand. Whatever will be best, I will buy.
At least I am not delusional enough to believe that one brand is "nicer" and thinks more highly of me than the other one.
These are companies you are talking about, not your wife.

[dbsg]

"PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

*drops mic*

[twoq]

What Sony has done was choose a way to gain "The Moral High Ground". They have placed no restrictions on playing 1st & 2nd party games but have indicated that 3rd party games can.
When EA or Activision insist on an online handshake to validate their games & people start complaining, Sony can then point out that they wanted to allow no restriction like they had done but those Money-hungry bastards insisted & said no DRM no game on the PS4.
I think that Sony had calculated that any profits gained by DRM would not be as valuable as the goodwill gained by being on the gamer's side.

[jamsam360]

With the lack of info from Sony only showing games And a Controller! And not to much of there Software implamintaion And what it will and will not do! Unlike Microsoft Showing the Xbox One A couple Games The acctual hardware, And Some of there proposed Software Plans As they Were or if they change them now! Why Is everyone allready saying the PS4 will Rule And La la la! E3 Is were all Judgement should be passed not by A next gen announcement! For just showing the Hardware! I for one am giving The Xbox One an opportunity! I do not care who's machine is the quickest Or the strongest I care about the games which will be 10 days from now! LONG LIVE XBOX! LOL!

[bunt-custardly]

This is bullcrap which I'm glad a few smarts have picked up on. The Xbox One doesn't need a permanent online connection either and neither does the PS4.

The real question is: Does the PS4 need to connect to the Internet, once ever X hours, or will certain games require the PS4 to connect once every X hours.

[TheFamous1]

I think Sony finally has a face for PlayStation.. I mean Kaz has always kinda been there, but I think Mark Cerny will be the one fans will identify with.

[Hazzinho10]

The internet connection thing doesn't bother me as much for PS4 even if it was the same as MS, it doesn't have a mandatory spy tool connected. The more I hear about the PS4 the better it gets, it still gets me how I was going to get an XB and PS4 until the XBone reveal.

[Many-hat5]

Well I am assuming he meant it doesn't need to be connected to be used. That's good enough for me. And I've just pre-ordered my PS4 on this basis! 360 has always been my console of choice this gen. 40+ games purchased for 360 Vs. 6 + one digital for PS3. MS being so vague about their intentions will absolutely backfire on them. Okay, initially, casual gamers may be fooled by MS' hyperbole, but what happens to a casual gamer when he doesn't understand all the connection requirements and suddenly can't play his games? He'll sell and won't touch another MS console again. Me, I've jumped ship to SONY, and while I usually own all consoles, there's one that won't be getting any where near my living room. Bye MS, nice knowing you.

[silvacrest]

I'm glad this has been cleared

Xbone Needs to make serious changes before e3 otherwise Sony has the next generation all wrapped up already

[ChiaPet]

neither will xbox one...

[MasterCornholio]

Not entirely true.

The XB1 needs a connection once every 24 hours to verify if the games that are being used are new title or used games.

In the case of Sony you never need to connect your console to the internet to play games on it.

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-...

"Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct."

There you go if you dont connect within 24 hours you cant play any games at all on the XBOX One even single player titles. Phil Harrison confirmed it himself so its a valid source of this kind of information.

@Skywalker333

"The question though is: "DOES IT REQUIRE ONLINE TO ACTIVATE A GAME?"."

Michael Denny already confirmed this a while ago.

"Playstation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all"

http://www.officialplaystat...

Which means that you dont need an internet connection to play any offline games.

[Skywalker333]

Ahahaha it is so interesting that ONCE MORE, just like MS, they do not give a straight answer.

Ok, it will not require "always online" and sure, it can be "better if you are online".

The question though is: "DOES IT REQUIRE ONLINE TO ACTIVATE A GAME?".

both Sony and MS avoid to answer this by giving us the round about... And with both of them playing a game like this, I fear that one time activation may come for both consoles.

[Tzuno]

maybe not always but once a few days wait for e3 before jumping for joy. you never know....

[Iceman_Nightmare]

and the reason I'm getting PS4

[linkenski]

Mark Cerny is the closest thing i've ever seen to a real life superhero who saves the day.