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Never Count Nintendo Out: 3DS Push Shows Wii U Won't Go Quietly

CVG writes: "It's a fantastic time to be a fan of crazy talk. We're living in age where gut-reaction analysis and attention-seeking comments travel faster than thought, and just a quick flick on Twitter is all it takes to catch at least one person making an arse of themselves under your nose."

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PopRocks3594450d ago

With more software, Nintendo CAN make a turnaround with the Wii U. Considering its motions are similar to the 3DS, I see no reason why it can't find a similar audience.

Gr814450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Software is and always will be key. Not just Software, but the RIGHT kind of software. 3DS has only recently appeared on my radar as a potential buy simply because the software shown as of late is compelling. ALttP at the top of the list.

Wii U, should Nintendo make the RIGHT software, maybe redesign the gamepad (much like the DS Lite) make a true account system (not tied to the hardware) to accompany the Virtual Console and you are looking at a very appealing console.

We shall see, but Software is key.

Thatguy-3104450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Handheld is always ruled by Nintendo. Do you guys think the wii was successful because of software O.o? If you look at the sales chart the highest selling games for the wii are party games. Wii sold like hot cakes because it introduced the fad of motion gaming which brought in the casual audience. The wii u won't be a big seller if the casual audience doesn't support it like they're currently doing. Nintendo fans can only do so much. The wii catered to a broader demographic making it a success.
Families(common non-gamer)led the wii to success.

Gr814450d ago

The Wii definitely sold because of software. Wii Sports was a phenom of a game. EVERYBODY played that game. They had Wii Sports set up at bars in NYC, and women were playing it. NSMB Sold 25m units, Mario Kart sold 35m units, Wii Sports Resort sold 26m units. Smash Bros sold 11.5m Units, what the heck are you talking about?

Were there lame cash in party games? absolutely. Were there a bunch of shovelware? absolutely. But were there also excellent games making use of motion controls? Damn right.

stuna14450d ago

@Arius Dion

And as you listed the majority of them are casual!

BosSSyndrome4450d ago

Dude, the best selling Wii game was Mario Kart.

dedicatedtogamers4450d ago

"With more software, Nintendo CAN make a turnaround with the Wii U."

I don't know if that is necessarily true. The N64 and Gamecube sold poorly (relatively speaking) yet both systems were brimming with software. The 3DS didn't skyrocket simply because of software, but rather because it got a massive price-cut and also because the software shifted focus away from "ERMAGRD 3D!"

Nintendo's consoles need more than just software. They need to reach out to new audiences. Failure to do this is what resulted in the steady decline from the NES all the way to the Gamecube. Wii wasn't a huge hit because it had a lot of software. Wii was a huge hit because it targeted an audience outside of the loyal Nintendo fanbase.

PopRocks3594450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

I do agree somewhat. A shift in focus is definitely necessary. The Wii U's gamepad is a nice convenience, but it should not be the forefront of the system, similarly to the 3DS' 3D feature.

However software is essential. No hardware will sell without viable and quality software to use on it. In this sense, I'm tired of people insisting that the platform is DOA. At least acknowledge the possibility of it selling better after Nintendo gets it into gear.

EDIT: This is not directed at you by the way, just speaking in general terms.

lilbroRx4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

The N64 and Gamecube made a huge profit, regardless of how much they sold by your standards.

The Wii U can only go up from here.

jcnba284450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Software sells hardware. When Nintendo brings out their triple A titles the Wii U sales will rise dramatically.

majiebeast4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Like the gamecube? The wiiU has better third party support? Thats the first i have heard about it the only 1s supporting the wiiU are Ubisoft and WB at this point. All the other big ones are ignoring it.

JonahNL4450d ago

The Gamecube had poor third party support and by far not as many first party exclusives as the Wii U could potentially have.

Theyellowflash304450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

@majiebeast

The Gamecube had Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest as exclusives?

BTW, that's Capcom and Square Enix, so you're statement of "only 1s supporting the wiiU are Ubisoft and WB at this point. All the other big ones are ignoring it."

Is false. Platinum Games, and indie's are on board as well.

Shok4450d ago

The GameCube went up against the juggernaut that is the PS2, this is not the same situation lol.

PS2 launched before the Gamecube and used DVD's, which meant a lot more people went for the PS2 since they could play their movies on it, and it got more 3rd party games.

With the Wii U, it has no competition right now, and near the holiday season it could very well already have an install base of 7-10 million, while the 720 and PS4 will have install bases of 0.

Also, Sony had Japan in the console market then. Now Nintendo has the Japanese market.

Not the same situation.

Theyellowflash304450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

@majiebeast

LOL, what a little bitch move you did. Send me this message:

How much did dragonquest X sell again... Oh wait it got out sold by a old port on the VITA. Monsterhunter didnt even manage to shift consoles only 67k sold in the US in a 5 week month.

Then block me. Dragon Quest X was on Wii and Wii U. Exactly what old port are you talking about?

Nice way to use Japan in your first argument, then shift to America to make your other point. Using one regions, rumored NPD sales, instead of using the total number the game moved in Japan, Europe, and the US.

This confirms you are a bias, cherry picking fanboy, that has no credibility what so ever.

majiebeast4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

@Shok

7-10 million lol dont make me laugh its barely at 2.5million and you expect Pikmin 3 to shift 5-7.5 million units.

Also on the Gamecube it was selling better then the wiiU when it was up against the ps2 juggernaut, meanwhile wiiU is up against 2 6-7 year old consoles that are at the end of the line.

I can pick up a wiiU for cheaper then a ps3 or 360 here in Europe, yet it still doesnt sell.

Nintendo has the Japanese market since when? The wiiU is selling at 10k a week there, even Dragonquest X and Game&Wario couldnt get it past 20k and that was 1 week.

3DS situation is not comparable to the wiiU two completely different markets and different competitors.

@Yellow

Last i checked DQX isnt out in the west, so how was i going to use it as a arguement for the west when the game isnt out?.

Muramasa:demons blade(old wii game) for Vita out sold both Game and Wario and DQX.

The fact remains that neither Lego city nor Monster hunter managed to sell a significant amount of consoles in the US(we dont have any info from Europe and in Japan it did okay) 67K is still like 14-20k below the ps3's worst month as a 600$ console and thats in a 5 week month.

If you have numbers that arent vgchartz of MH and lego city i would love to see them.

Theyellowflash304450d ago

Nintendo does own Japan at this point.

Nintendo is selling the most hardware and software combined in Japan. The 3DS, DS, Wii, and Wii U has taken a large chunk of the market share from Sony in the PS2 days.

And the Vita is getting destroyed by the 3DS in Japan. Where as the Wii U and PS3 sales are comparable, with Sony slightly edging Nintendo by a few thousands units.

This will change as more software comes out though. Game & Wario, and ports of a Wii MMO, aren't enough.

Games like Mario Kart, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Xenoblade 2, Zelda, Bayonetta 2, and Pikmin 3 will move Wii U units in Japan. It's not about any one game selling a system. It's the combination of all the games.

PopRocks3594450d ago

@Theyellowflash30

Ignore him. If his antics on the "Wii U has won next gen" article is any indication, majiebeast is a troll.

Satirical4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

For goodness sakes, why do people always forget about the Japanese developers. The gaming industry is not ruled by just western developers. I foresee tons of Japanese support on the Wii U.

Majiebeast is just bitter because the Vita is in exactly the same position as the Wii U.

lilbroRx4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Funny thing is that Nintendo made more money off the Gamecube era than Sony made off of the PS2.

http://s2.n4g.com/media/11/...

Honeestly, looking at the "facts"
http://www.ign.com/articles...
I would say that I'm more worried for Sony than I am for Nintendo.

Fact is that the strongest hardware always sold the least and the weakest hardware always sold the most in every gen since the NES.

cee7734450d ago

Pretty sure most of the money from the GameCube era came from the gameboy

RTheRebel4450d ago

PLZ stop I can't take a Sony Drone seriously lol

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lovegames7184450d ago

Seriously like how many %ucking articles about the same shit do they have to make? Its like the %ucking always online articles with xbox and other Sony shit too. Isnt one or two articles about the same topic enough? Wtf you pseudo journalists have nothing else to write about?

Then you have the same comments over and over again smh lol Its ridiculous. No one knows wtf is going to happen and even software isnt necessarily going to turn the Wiiu around games that ppl thought would make an impact on Wiiu have come out here and there and they have done nothing. Just play the waiting game and see.

LOL_WUT4450d ago

"even software isnt necessarily going to turn the Wiiu around games that ppl thought would make an impact on Wiiu have come out here and there and they have done nothing"

Exactly, this article is just another way for them to convince themselves, but reality paints a different picture. ;)

Theyellowflash304450d ago

What software is that?

Last time I checked, Nintendo still hasn't released Zelda, 3D Mario, Metroid, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. ect

LOL WUT....quite simply a cherry picking troll of N4G

ape0074450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

the reality is that nintendo exclusives are easily the Best system exclusives In The World, bar non, no argument, hands down, no fillers, no generic feel, no linearity, no bs, rock solid mechanics, quality, quantity, boss fights, masterful design, lenght, variety and overall care
i cannot wait for mario 3D wiiu, zelda U, Pikmin 3, DK, smash bros, mario kart

i hope u pull yourself out of this negative black hole that u live in and start enjoying games

PopRocks3594450d ago

@LOL_WUT

You mean the same "reality" that convinced you that a price drop was the end all be all of the Wii U's magic bullets for success? Software moved the 3DS, why wouldn't move the Wii U?

delboy4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

N has the software to turn hardware around, unlike Sony and Vita.

lilbroRx4450d ago (Edited 4450d ago )

Yes, reality paints a vastly different picture from what you always say. ;)

http://s2.n4g.com/media/11/...

http://www.ign.com/articles...

http://www.google.com/url?s...

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MNGamer-N4450d ago

They better give us all of the games we've wanted by this holiday season, or they are going to have a tough time this x-mas selling consoles, and they can't afford that at this point. They are really under the gun to provide a big chunk of heavy hitters. We'll see if they can pull it off... PS4 right around the corner (with no games)

Jek_Porkins4450d ago

Why on earth would anyone count Nintendo out a mere six months into the Wii U's life? If they show off some killer software it'll be fine, it's actually overall on par with the Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of total units in the first six months. People just want games, and Nintendo might have to cut the price a bit and start selling Gamepads separately if they want the Wii U to take off.

They seemed a bit unprepared for the launch of the Wii U, no duel Gamepad support, cant buy a new Gamepad, no killer first party app, even the eShop isn't up yet, and it even took a while to get the TV stuff up and running. When you release a console, it needs to be ready for release.

ape0074450d ago

"They seemed a bit unprepared for the launch of the Wii U"

agreed 100%

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai20d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX20d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK20d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog20d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor20d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje20d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra20d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje20d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac20d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex20d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje20d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter19d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake20d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos20d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8620d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos20d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8620d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr19d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8619d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2320d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos20d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker20d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg20d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake20d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr19d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B20d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

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Obscure_Observer40d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj38d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.

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Nintendo Predicts to Sell 15 Million Switch 2 by March 2026; Switch Has Sold 152.12 Million Units

Nintendo has announced its financial results for the full fiscal year, alongside an update to Nintendo Switch shipments and more data, including a prediction for Switch 2 hardware and software.

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gold_drake51d ago

well, the switch 2 has two holidays in the us, thanksgiving and Christmas.

so id say its fairly possible. the rest of the world will also grab them

Abriael51d ago

Yeah doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility as long as they have enough supply.

Si-Fly51d ago

Do people buy each other games consoles for Thanksgiving? I’m in Europe and always assumed it was just Christmas where gifts were exchanged.

Skate-AK51d ago

I don't think it's so much Thanksgiving, but that Black Friday is the day after.

darthv7251d ago (Edited 51d ago )

That time is often referred to as the start of the Xmas shopping season. For the last few years, retailers would do 'black Friday' deals at various times throughout the year. While many still prefer to start their shopping in the mid to late November, others will just buy when they feel the time (and prices) are right for them.

gold_drake50d ago

i guess its more black friday, should have been more clear ha

GotGame81850d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Thanksgiving kicks off the Christmas Holiday.

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Agent7551d ago

Switch and Switch are a different kettle of fish. A sell out at launch by the diehards, strong sales, then the non diehards will be put off by the £75 ($99) games, including the stupid download cards which are topping £65 ($85). Not rocket science to work out how the Switch 2 is going to pan out. The PS5 has sold well, but games at £70, sales have been low. As game sales drop, prices will rise. Sony could knock out all their games for £40 and still make a killing selling more games. There's no denying that a gaming crash is looming.

Rancegamerx51d ago

I agree, I don't see the Switch 2 selling anywhere near the numbers that these predictions suggest or what the general buzz is implying. While the initial sales will likely be strong, driven by diehard fans, I anticipate a gradual decline. It may not drop off immediately, but over time, sales will inevitably taper.

PRIMORDUS51d ago

Not paying for something that's not worth more than the price it was advertised, which is $449 - $499.

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