With Xbox 'Durango' Requiring Full Game Installs, Is Microsoft Locking Out Used Game Sales?

Forbes - There comes a defining moment in every rumor’s life cycle where it simply fizzles out, or surges forward like a runaway train. Unfortunately the latest rumors about the next Xbox console — code named Durango — and its always online connectivity are only being amplified, with new wrinkles pointing to Microsoft dodging or outright preventing used game sales.

[ShugaCane]

Maybe, maybe not, but what we know is that The chains of love are never so blinding as when their links are made of gold, so who cares ?

[Gamer-Z]

I.......agree?

[TheSaint]

Well if they do and Sony don't then that's suicidal for MS.

[yewles1]

According to the old leaks, the PS4 has an extra ZLib decompression unit so that the disc can stream data by spooling with the HDD, thus games can load faster, eliminating the need for installs. But, we'll have to wait until E3 to see if that made it to the final specs...

[Rob Hornecker]

Oh how the rumor mill just keeps churning LOL!!! Like you,I will wait and see what E3 will bring as far as what the next gen can and won't be able to do.

I think the being able to play used games will be the make it or break it of the next gen!!!

I agree that the game publishers need to make something off used games,but they have to come up with a reasonable medium. or gaming will go the way of over the air free TV.

[Godmars290]

In that case the WiiU is indeed headed for a slow burn win. Just need Sony's and MS's public and official "F-U" to the used games market.

[Jyndal]

This doesn't bother me at all. I trust Microsoft to deliver an excellent gaming experience, just as they've always done.

[SDF Repellent]

Amen! LOL at the Sony fanboys' stealth disagrees with what you said, Jyndal.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

If Microsoft block used games then they are sticking their middle finger up to a good portion of gamers.
It's exactly the same if Sony do it.
Why would you support this? people buy used games and fall in love with franchises which then leads them to buy the sequels or extra content, what about lending a game to a friend? getting them to try you're favourite game? everyone has done that at some point and gotten their friends into games they would never of tried.
I can't believe you're turning it into a Sony fanboy thing it's ridiculous.

[SDF Repellent]

Installing game on the Harddrive =/= Blocking used games. The Xbox 360 and PS3 has been doing that for years. Jyndal wasn't talking about blocking used games. These blocking used game rumors are beaten like a dead horse and me and other xbox owners are just tired of it because we love what the Xbox brought to the table this generation and we have no doubt that will continue in the future and Microsoft will do the right thing. Just mentioning xbox and microsoft in a positive note will get disagreements. That is a fact of life on N4G.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

Well this article is about Microsoft blocking used games so I imagine Jyndal was replying to the headline.

"With Xbox 'Durango' Requiring Full Game Installs, Is Microsoft Locking Out Used Game Sales?"
Jnydal "This doesn't bother me at all"

(I could be wrong it's just how it looks)

Anyway I get that you want to defend the company that you love. which I'm guessing is due to the 360 being you're favourite console? but you shouldn't defend things like this. Yes this is all rumour and speculation and in result every comment made towards Microsoft is based on this rumour. I'm positive if there were rumours of Sony blocking used games you would see the exact same reaction.

[Temporary]

Microsoft loves ass raping fools. Best scammers the past 2 decades.

[grassyknoll]

If true, not being able to play games at a friend's house or resell old games does not mean an "excellent gaming experience".

[iconic56]

I'm a Steam user and I can't help but see the similarities between the Durango and Steam when it comes to transactions.

Which also leads me to believe that possibly like Steam, if Durango is truly digital only then all these transactions should be linked to your Xbox account and (like Steam) you should be able to play/reinstall your games wherever you sign in with your account (on whoever's Durango). The catch being that you can only be signed-in in one location at a time. The other catch being you have to be online for verification as well.

I'm also thinking for all those gamers without internet, they will be able to play the games they have installed locally via retail bluray discs, but they obviously won't be able to transfer those files to someone else's Durango, since those transactions were never synced to a Xbox Live account.

I'm definitely cool with this and think it's a realistic and smart progression for an increasing digital and connected generation. Plus I'm already used to this idea of Cloud syncing... iTunes/Steam/Vudu/Kindle/Andro id/Origin/Google Drive/Office 365/etc.

[vitullo31]

yeah...excellent being used as a synonym for shitty

[jessupj]

I'm astounded at the level of fanboyism.

It really takes the meaning of "smile while MS bends you over" to a whole new level.

I love Sony, but if they ever pulled this crap I'd be forced to just game on the PC.

It's just comprehensible how anyone could be ok with this.

[Godmars290]

Obviously unconfirmed, but it might have something to do with the BR drive they plan on using for the system. An issue with direct reading or speed, so this is a work around.

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

I think the sooner Microsoft reveal now, the better.

[Rob Hornecker]

That would be in there best interest,since pax east starts today!

[kreate]

Thats the problem though, they decline to comment.

All this rumors going spiral is partly MS' s fault for not specifying anything.

Supposedly april will bring us answers.

But agreed, the sooner the better.

[DiRtY]

Xbox 720 will have a sleeping mode and start instantly = OMG it is always online and won't work offline!

Xbox 720 will have a big support for entertainment apps = OMG it won't care about games!

Xbox 720 will come with Kinect 2 = OMG it won't care about core games!

Xbox 720 will install games automatically on the HDD from your disc, while you play the game, without any delay = OMG it won't play used games!

IMO those are four great features, how some people spin this is quite entertaining.

[kreate]

lol

[BladerunnerZX]

Microsoft is hiding something that they dont want the hardcore Halo/Gears of War gamers to know.

....they dont care about you.

[nix]

microsoft knows what it means to have a hacked consoles lying around. they're not making money via the way they should have.

[optimus]

i think microsoft is secretly laughing cause they could have very well "leaked" these rumors just to have a bigger impact when they do reveal it...i mean really, if you were about to reveal something last and people are already expecting you to show what they "have known" for months then everyone would say "i'm not surprised". ...

but right now, they can come in and reveal something very small like it CAN play used games and people will be like "wow" and "we were wrong", "i was expecting this, but never THAT", etc. etc. things are shaping up to bring us the biggest E3 in history. it's like they took a page of the wrestlemania hype train.

[GABRIEL1030]

Those all rumors are false, Microsoft is cooking some great about Xbox Infinity