Microsoft just bought R2 Studios, a company that Apple and Google were both after, to help the Xbox continue its assault on living rooms across the world. R2 Studios, which was founded by Blake Krikorian (the guy who also made the Slingbox), apparently "works on" technology related to distributing and displaying digital media on televisions.
Money talks and Bull-ish walks and Microsoft's money was doing a lot of talking or a lot of persuading.
... and in doing so, with a focus mainly on Kinect and apps for the dashboard, it has only managed to push me away as a gamer.
It doesn't help much that here in Europe we only get a fraction of what XBL Gold subscribers get in the USA, yet we pay more for our subscription.
Anyway, I feel MS has lost me due to their focus on turning the 360 into a media-machine, somehow they have seemed to forget that I bought a 360 TO PLAY GAMES. Luckily 3rd party support and XBLA is still very good, but it's a shame there have been no new interesting IPs and exclusives coming from MS or 3rd parties the last 3-4 years, so I think next-gen I'll go for a 'Steam Box' instead.
I trust Valve more with looking after my needs as a GAMER.
paying to play online is definitely a no-go in my book. hell i had to sign up for Gamefly to actually get use out of my 360 now.
You aren't the norm, and in fact isn't likely the norm when it comes to gaming habits either. Most of my friends on my Xbox 360 friends list use a variety of apps on the console. So do I, and they successfully made me use the Xbox 360 in place of my PC in the living room.
You complain about games, but most of my friends has no problems finding games to play, exclusive or mutli-platform. Their only complaint is, I don't have enough time (or in some rare instances money).
"It doesn't help much that here in Europe we only get a fraction of what XBL Gold subscribers get in the USA, yet we pay more for our subscription."
It is because of the fractured reality of Europe. Different languages, different accessibility. I mean, nordic countries just got Netflix two months ago. Other than UK, I don't think many other countries has it. Which is one example. Can't provide an app for a service that doesn't work in another country.
Media content has complex rights in Europe that doesn't transfer between countries which makes it extremely hard to target the whole area, not to mention the damn cost. Everything is heavily taxed here. On top of that, you have to have the language translated for each country and so on. A lot, and I mean a *LOT* of people don't speak English.
and I buy consoles because of games..! I can build my own living room setup I want, I dont need x box for that! I want high quality games and more big and small companies working together to make them... not one big company trying to control everything... in the end that could be a fail..
XBX3 will be more than a gaming system, it'll cater everyone with games + apps + multimedia and more, don't know why people complain about this, as long as games keep coming out, no one should be against a more varied console
In reality, it's not different from what Sony does to push their tech stuff
PS1 = CD
PS2 = DVD
PS3 = Blu-Ray + 3D
All next gen consoles will charge for online. I don't consider Wii U next gen.
M$ will be backwards compatible PS4 won't. But SONY will charge for remakes as they're doing now, as they've taken BC from the PS3.
I doubt Sony will charge for to play online, it was their tag line on the PS2 and on the PS3. They will have a subscription base thing, similar to PlayStation Plus. But what that entails, I don't know. Also, they have the Vita, which would hurt them, if they would charge to play online. I'm sure they will keep the online passes though.
Microsoft charged for a remake as well, so don't single out Sony for doing it. Some of us like the fact that we can play some of the remakes in HD. And as long as the remakes are not PS3 remakes on the PS4, I don't think I would have a problem with it. They could gladly keep doing PS2 HD remakes.
RE4 HD, RE:CodeVeronica HD, DMC HD, Silent Hill HD, Zone of the Enders HD, MGS HD, PeaceWalker HD, the upcoming Hitman HD. Try walking out of Walmart with Halo Anniversary without paying for it. I'd like to know what happens. :p
On the 360, you have the OPTION (MS seems to always allow for options, what a great company) to either play your XBOX game on the 360 with last gen graphics OR buy the HD version for the 360.
Difference here is that MS allows for the option while Sony doesn't.
As for Online, anyone who thinks that Sony won't charge for online multiplayer are delusional especially in the current financial state Sony is in. MS's XBL generates billions for MS, you don't think Sony would like to tap into that market?
Sony didn't charge for online this gen because online wasn't added until late in the development for the PS3. It was originally NOT going to have online. Sony knows very well nobody would have paid for online in the state that PSN was launched in.
Now that Sony is getting a better online network, you can bet your bottom dollar that Sony will charge for next gen. Especially when you see 70+ million 360 are sold this gen WITH an online paid subscription. Sony has only managed to keep up with MS with console sales so if MS can sell just as many 360's as Sony can sell PS3 while MS charges for online multiplayer, Sony is just chomping on the bit looking forward in doing the same thing.
PS+ is just a temporary test to see the markets reaction....and it's looking pretty positive.
Errmmmm no they don't.
I had a 4gb slim and it told me I can't play original Xbox games without a HDD.
Also not all original games work and some have game breaking bugs.
You are honestly just as biased as any PS3 fan on this site. Since when was playing the online half of all the games you own an option on Xbox? Since when was the drop in support for Xbox in favour of a new console a choice? Since when were forced ads on a paid subscription service an option? Since when was lack of hard drive space to play games in their entirety something that was an option? Overpriced peripherals, lack of exclusives that aren't via Kinect (in recent years). The list goes on.
As far as that BC excuse goes, sure MS has been known to offer backwards compatibility, it's not perfect nor does it work for all games. All the gamers I know have kept their old consoles out of pure collector's sake and personal attachment to a device that has seen them hundreds if not thousands of hours of satisfaction. I still have my fully working launch PS2, Dreamcast, N64, MegaDrive, GameBoy, even though you can get these games elsewhere via emulation for free and easy. I'm attached to games I've played in my past as as such, am attached to the consoles that ran them, and can still play them.
The real truth is, Sony has given you more options than Microsoft ever has in their time in the gaming market. And the truth is that whilst both companies have both options and restrictions, to say that Microsoft offer you more whilst praising things that are anti-consumer, is utterly ridiculous.
"As for Online, anyone who thinks that Sony won't charge for online multiplayer are delusional especially in the current financial state Sony is in. MS's XBL generates billions for MS, you don't think Sony would like to tap into that market?"
They won't, and it's far, FAR from delusional to consider so. There are what.. 40-50 million Live members and roughly 20 million are paying Gold subscriptions.
Sony has their business model in PlayStation Plus. That is tapping into the market. Do you think Microsoft gained 20+ million XBL subscribers in 2 years, from its inception? There are already millions of subscribers for PS+ service and it's only been around for about 2 years. You should have observed by now that Sony are a long-term company. With what they have been offering, and continuing to offer and with the perceived value of a huge value games rental and great extra features is only going to grow both on PS3, Vita and then PS4. THINK... LONG-TERM.
You seem to have grown so accustomed to paying for P2P online gameplay that you think Sony will follow the same rip-off methodology of forcing their customer base to pay for basic connected play. That's laugh out loud hilarious.
"Sony didn't charge for online this gen because online wasn't added until late in the development for the PS3. It was originally NOT going to have online."
Literally the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard. They didn't charge because they weren't going to regardless. With thriving game communities like Socom on PS2, you think think they were going to drop online functionality? HA! 2005 - Internet connectivity is booming and you think that Sony almost didn't understand that there was an audience for that? Wow.
What you're confusing Sony's underestimation of the importance of online play with, is with them being absolute utter retards. Something's not right there, surely...
as always you have no idea what you are talking about
So with all of Apple's money, I wonder how MS got the upper hand. Maybe Apple realized it wasn't really worth purchasing in the end.
@Bar_Brothers
"Sony buys EMI publishing for $2.2 billion"
http://www.engadget.com/201...
They will have the biggest music collection and 2 million+ copyrights.
just sayin..
MS still shooting their machine check gun and still on have 3 AAA games and 61 kinect exlcusives with 23 more announced? ok.. Best game company ever!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
"Rare hiring new developers for Kinect 2 and Xbox 720 games"
http://www.digitaltrends.co...
"Halo 5 release teased by 343 Industries director "
http://www.trustedreviews.c...
"Forza 5 In Development At Turn 10"
http://www.nowgamer.com/new...
"Fable 4 hinted to be in development"
http://stickskills.com/2012...
Alan Wake was the last new game..
When will you guys catch on?
Have a 'Interesting' bubble
What I hate most about console manufacturers including all of this "media integration" crap in their consoles is that it simply turns me off to their system. I already have a PS3 blu ray player. I already have my PC hooked up to my big screen. I don't NEED an "all in one" streaming box. I want a game console.
And they know how to use it.
You cant beat Microsoft at their own game $$$$$$
....naaaaaaaaaaah.
It's a fact, look it up.
PS3 (multiplatform: 615; exclusive: 137; console exclusive: 8) http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... and PSN http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
360 (multi-platform: 721; exclusive: 127; console exclusive: 82)<-console exclusives push it over http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
When you add Kinect games http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... and Arcade games http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... and Indie games http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... the list gets even longer. 360 has more exclusive games and content in just about every category and it's BC with over 300+ Xbox games.
Therefore it is a fact that the 360 has more exclusive games :)
inFamous 2
God of War III
Heavenly Sword
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Socom: Confrontation
Socom 4
MAG
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3
Looks like more than 8, already. What are you talking about?
http://factsvsfanboys.com/
(Hasn't been updated in ~7 months, but you get the idea. Get some criteria.)
Wikipedia = "This is an incomplete list"
Sort PS3 by date first released. You really think only 14 total games released in the past 9+ months? A few release every week, which would be closer to 114 than just 14.
You have zero criteria. More exclusives doesn't equal more quality exclusives. You're including more horrible exclusives rated in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc.
Kinect = extra equipment needed, same with Move. That's why they're normally not included by any reasonable person.
You could do a comparison between Kinect & Move if you wanted to, but then you'll end up with Kinect Star Wars & Kinectimals & Kinect Adventures & Dance Central, etc. vs. Heavy Rain & Killzone 3 & Resistance 3 & LittleBigPlanet 2, etc. If you end up with 'more' Kinect exclusives (as opposed to more Quality extra equipment exclusives), you can keep em. I'm pretty sure nobody here plans on jumping ship for Kinectimals.
"it's BC with over 300+ Xbox games." -ALLWRONG
>> 968 according to wiki.
And all PS3 consoles are backwards compatible with "2,418"+ PS1 games.
The older PS3s are also BC with "2,016"+ PS2 games.
Well said, ALLWRONG! Just look at this list of fine 360 exclusives...
11eyes CrossOver (Console exclusive)
A-Train HX
Absolute: Blazing Infinity
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Akai Katana Shin
Alien Breed Trilogy (Isn't this on PSN? No, of course not! NOBODY CHECK!)
America's Army: True Soldiers
Amped 3
Apocalypse: Desire Next
AquaZone: Life Simulator
Arcania: Gothic 4 (Console exclusive)
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Battlestations: Midway (Console exclusive)
Battlestations: Pacific (Console exclusive)
Beautiful Katamari
Black College Football: The Xperience (Console exclusive)
Blue Dragon
Bomberman: Act Zero
Bullet Witch
And that's just the A's and B's! You sure showed him! Microsoft doesn't need to expand beyond Halo, Forza, and Gears! The 360 has Bulletwitch and oddball Japanese games nobody has ever heard of. High five!
Oh wait... Crap! He didn't say anything about the total number of games. He was talking Microsoft's over-reliance on Halo, Forza, and Gears. Not a problem. We can still prove him wrong. Don't worry. I got this! Let's look at all of Microsoft's 2012 releases on that non-Kinect Wikipedia list...
Halo 4
Forza Horizon
Hmmm... well... uh... maybe 2012 was just an off year. It was probably much better in 2011...
Forza Motorsport 4
Gears of War 3
Halo Anniversary
Okay. I know this looks bad... but things have gotta pick up in 2013...
Gears of War: Judgment
Aw dang.
-Look at the name
-Look at the comment
-Reealize everything is wrong
My head is spinning from too much irony.
The 968 I said above is actually the total amount of Xbox games released according to wiki. The Xbox 360 supposedly supports backwards compatiblity of 478 of them in North America.
So it looks like it's 2,418 to 4,434+ (more PS2 games have been released since this count) depending which PS3 model you have vs. 478 for the Xbox 360 as far as the BC comparison goes..
About a 5x advantage to all PS3s and 10x advantage to the original phatties with PS2 hardware built in.
The Xbox 360 has the most games this gen. Retail and digital.
You can't disagree with facts. And MS has the most 1st party studios ready for next gen. Another fact.
Halo 4 sold more copies in 7 weeks than GT5 in its first year. Another fact.
I can't wait to get disagrees for that. It is nonsense to diagree with facts, but it will happen.
And btw. whoever said the PS3 has got more games due to PS2 games is a genius. That is just gold.
MS's business is vendor locking. Sony's business is providing entertainment.
Facts? How did Forza Horizons and Forza 4 do -combined- next to the very same GT5, or GT5 Prologue demo? http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...
Hmm. Facts indeed.
That's what happens when there's a drought in great exclusive games.
Oh it's ZALES now again is it dirty? Really? In 7 weeks? I'm telling you all you are doing is making yourself ridiculous cherry picking things like this. Or by thinking things like this matters... This is not even funny anymore.
Their own game? the business game? pretty sure all businesses are in that game. what business thinks it's going to thrive by not spending money?
go read an economics book, then spread this silly hatred towards a company for doing very well what a company is meant to do.
sure... if it was opposite day.
.. thats about it..
Funny, even the NES was called Nintendo Entertainment System. Entertainment can be more than games. The PS3 commercials mention Blu-ray and it's mentioned on the box as a movie device with streaming. Phones have now turned into entertainment devices as well as computers. What's your point?
Here's the PS3 website: http://us.playstation.com/p...
"Only console with a built in Blu-ray™ player
Watch or stream thousands of movies in high definition"
All of the companies are moving toward multiple use entertainment systems, it gets it into more living rooms than just a "gaming machine"
its going from xbox gaming system to netbox the cable box.
wish they had spent the money buying some game studio's.
hey microsoft how about investing some money in game development the industry that helped made the xbox a success.
Why is wrong for a gamer to ask for more good games?
I instead of useles features? (For gaming)
2010
Microsoft Studios formed a Mobile Gaming studio focused on developing gaming and entertainment multimedia for Windows Phone.[6]
Microsoft Studios forms new internal studio named Microsoft Game Studios - Vancouver.[7]
Microsoft Studios forms new internal studio named Microsoft Flight Development Team to bring Microsoft Flight to PC.[8]
2011
Microsoft Studios opens new development studios in Soho London, Redmond, Washington and Victoria, British Columbia.[9][10][11]
Microsoft Studios acquires indie game developer Twisted Pixel Games, known for developing titles including 'Splosion Man and The Gunstringer.[12][13]
2012
Phil Harrison, the former Sony world wide studios head joined Microsoft as head of Microsoft European Studios and IEB.[14]
Microsoft Studios recruits for new development studios in Redmond — Microsoft Studios - Playful Learning.[15]
Microsoft Studios recruits for new development studios in Redmond — Microsoft Studios - The Connected Experiences.[16]
Microsoft Studios acquires developer Press Play, known for developing Tentacles and Max & the Magic Marker.[17]
Microsoft Studios announces plans to expand Microsoft Studios Victoria to between 80-100 people.[18]
Microsoft reveals the final name of their sports entertainment development studio - Skybox Sports - in a recruitment release.[19]
Microsoft reveals plans to open a new games development studio in London, England to develop various free-to-play, online and social games for Xbox platforms.[20]
Microsoft downsizes Microsoft Studios - Vancouver due to cancellation of Kinect family title "Project Columbia" and announces ongoing development of free-to-play PC title, Microsoft Flight has ceased due to portfolio evaluation.[21]
Microsoft Studios - Vancouver is officially renamed Black Tusk Studios. They aim to create Microsoft Studios' next big IP to rival their most successful series, Halo.
Microsoft recruits for a new development studio in Los Angeles, California to develop interactive Televised Entertainment for Microsoft platforms - Microsoft Studios - LA[22]
I hope that gamers will get excited over this! Peace
Tell yourself what u wanna hear, but there's little evidence for me to think MS will return to the core. So i'm with Sony now.
Peace out.
It's more like my loving room, honestly.
It's true freedom.
His comment literally only half-sense but because he's defending Sony: N4G unanimously agrees.
*shakes head
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref...
PRRFF... I almost said that with a straight face.. 8D
Home automation? Does this mean I can flush my toilet now with pressing a button on a Xbox controller?
I feel like Microsoft invests in the dumbest shit, just like how they invested so much in windows 8 and tablet PC's but now someone invented something where you don't even need to touch the screen which they should have seen that coming...
So when is Windows 9 coming out soon probably? I fucking loath 8 bunch of fucking noobs with their phones and tablets would love that crap..
I guess if you have the money to spend stupidly have at it.
I am also guessing this purchase has more to do with what sling box is working on next than what it has already done.
I do that too. But you and I are not the world, so for many more people other than ourselves this will be beneficial to them.
http://www.psfk.com/2012/08...
i didnt even notice the difference until someone told me about it. it was a waste of money
Buy gaming studios. Develop a plethora of varied (non-Kinect, as I don't like motion controls from anybody) exclusives, and continue to support them. Don't overuse them, but give them at least a FEW releases in a generation.
AND MAKE ONLINE PLAY FREE.
If it's not free, I may still get one, but I refuse to play anything online if I have to pay for it.
Buy gaming studios? A plethora? How is that working out for Sony and its "supposed" many exclusives that fail hard?
People need to realize that consoles can't just play games anymore but they have to do so much more to gain people's interest and MS realizes this.
This is partly due to the rise of smartphones and tablets and other media devices that have multiple functions.
It's why we see the 3DS and Vita trying to expand in features and not just be a portable gaming machine only.
"If it's not free, I may still get one,"
Stop it, if you haven't got one by now then you are not getting one. And a one time year fee is all of a sudden a financial burden? There's even deals to get live for $30 dollars.
go MS go i love what u r doing it ....i sold my ps3 1 month ago....( so i could still get good money on it) trusting that u r doing the good things!
It seems Gizmodo are clueless how poor Microsoft media services are outside US/UK. Instead of an assault, I'd rather call it a disaster.
At the end of the day, we know that it all just comes down to personal preference. I know that I prefer my 360 over my ps3 for just about every feature except Netlfix which works way better on ps3. I play just about every multiplat release on 360, unless the ps3 version has a wealth of exclusive bonus content. I think the last time I even turned on my ps3 was late this summer when I went through a GT5 addiction phase..Then October came, and i bought all the great multi's for 360, havent turned on my ps3 since. I dont see myself playing a lot on the ps3 until The Last of Us comes out in May.
So yea, 360 doesnt have a wealth of "core" exclusives outside of the 3 or 4 everyone can name, but that doesn't stop serious gamers from playing tons of great games on the 360. So you folks who are bitching that your gonna trade in your xbox because "theres no games" are full of Sh*t trolls who don't own an Xbox.
MS must have did something right this gen becuase as soon as something positive is mentioned about MS they Sony fans jump to downplay it.
Who would have thought that the Xbox would become such a power house.
I love my Xbox but I don't want to buy a new one every year or so