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Will the Xbox 720 be more powerful than the PS4?

OmniGamer Writes "There are rumors ladies and gentlemen that Microsoft next generation console will be more powerful then Sony’s next generation console.

Could it be possible that Microsoft’s next console out muscle Sony’s console? Let’s take a look at all the rumor specs, to see if we can get a conclusion of who will be the big dog on the playground. For this article will refer to Sony’s next generation console as the "PS4" and Microsoft’s next generation console as the "Xbox 720""

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dazzrazz4169d ago

Yawn... more stupid articles. How about what will be the price ?

JoGam4169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

Honestly, there were rumors before about PS3 being more powerful than the 360 but what history teaches us is unless you have exclusives where developers utilize the pros of a console, then every game will look Damn near the same. There were subtle difference between multiplat games but it's the exclusive that will shine such as Kill Zone, Gears, and Uncharted. So I don't care what system is more powerful, if the developers aren't tapping in, then it doesn't matter.

Blackdeath_6634169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

agreed i was going to say exactly that. the exclusives sony has put out have been of high quality, they have a strong lineup going in to next gen. and its not just the same exclusives recycled,reused and abused like the halo,gears and forza its new IP's that have really impressed me an area in which the xbox has been lacking. so regardless of how powerful either consoles are going to be i will wait to see which consoles have a decent set of games that i am interested in.

BadboyCivic4169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

Hmmm..."blackdeath" ....you sound like a picthman for sony. All system reuse what sells. There will be more COD, Mario, Halo and God of war

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MikeMyers4169d ago

The original Xbox actually showed it's extra power with mutiplat games. So you can have better technology that is also developer friendly. Sony has a history of making proprietary hardware that mainly suits them. The PS4 will likely go a different direction because Sony has been forced to be more open after all the difficulties of the PS3 with programmers. The PS2 was also a headache but the difference was that system was the lead platform in many cases. If the PS3 dominated the charts it too would likely have benefited by being the lead platform. That didn't happen very often.

We have no idea what both Sony and Microsoft plan on doing or how much they will cost. Microsoft went all out with the Xbox and was more reserved with the Xbox 360. Sony went all out with the PS3, will they with the PS4?

jaosobno4168d ago

This article deals with ancient rumors. Latest ones point out to a much more powerful system with developers stating that PS4 devkits become more powerful with each new iteration.

Two consoles will probably be equally matched in terms of power.

DeadlyFire4168d ago

Is this article a joke or they trying to be serious?

AMD/Intel x86 > RISC CPU(IBM Power7) anyday of the week. This is fact and not fiction. Amature news with no information about CPUs.

16 threaded Power7 CPU vs. 4-8 threaded x86 APU. Who wins in this deal? x86. Power series is nice and all, but there is a reason that x86 has a market for Desktop gaming on the PC/Mac Platforms and RISC CPUs do not at the moment.

zerocrossing4168d ago

An intelligent opinion and yet you have one bubble... yep, this is N4G.

AlphaJunk4168d ago

@DeadlyFire - you have erroneously lumped AMD with Intel: AMD does not make a performance equal to Intel's iCore 7 CPU's especially on the FPU and SIMD side. And you're wrong if you believe all x86 cpu's are superior to Power7. Only the best i7 core can compete with the lower end Power7 architecture.
Popularity has nothing to do with performance - that's a first grade argument! The reason Desktops are still using the x86 CPU is because of backward compatibility and the cost of starting over. But there is a reason why all the consoles of this generation went with IBM designed CPU's.
So if Sony decides to go with an AMD CPU in the PS4, then will it will be for cost-to-performance reasons and not for performance reasons.
The IBM designed Cell was faster than most desktop CPU's at mathematical calculations for several years when the PS3 came out - It was scoring higher than almost anything desktop wise doing the Folding@Home project
Everyone do you're research on CPU architectures and stop being lame.

dabri54168d ago

I disagree and here is why. You are only thinking about how multiplat games were THIS gen.
Multiplat games didn't differ much this gen because the more powerful system was also the system that was more difficult to develop for.
When the PS2 and Xbox were competing, the Xbox was more powerful and easier to develop for. Because of that, developers more often than not took advantage of that and multiplat games almost ALWAYS looked better (by a lot) on the Xbox.
The rumored specs for both the next Xbox and Playstation are promising because they are both using less complicated architecture that should ease development for developers. Depending on which console is more powerful (and by how much), you could very well see similar trend as the one I described above. The next console race could be won based off of better multiplat performance alone.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4168d ago (Edited 4168d ago )

"So I don't care what system is more powerful, if the developers aren't tapping in, then it doesn't matter."

so ps4 devs it is!

Rare will push kinect 190%
http://www.digitaltrends.co...

Some good things has to come out of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

ProjectVulcan4168d ago (Edited 4168d ago )

hmmm @ Alphatauri.....

"Only the best i7 core can compete with the lower end Power7 architecture"

The CPU you talk about as in the POWER7 is really a server only core built for raw performance at immense expense (launched starting at around $3k for the lower end you mentioned and going up, up and UP -I kid you not). X86 like Ivy Bridge, were not. Very little to do with console processors. I can't emphasise this enough.

"there is a reason why all the consoles of this generation went with IBM designed CPU's"

That reason is cost. The IBM designed cores in the consoles were cheaper than an X86 core of that period. Not faster, CHEAPER per FLOP. Budget constraints. Period. Although RISC is also a bit more power efficient too. You can point to the crappiness of the cut down cores inside PS3/360, hardly any cache, 2 issue in order execution with a too long pipeline in the case of X360. They suck compared to an X86 of the same era.

Sony would go with a fusion design because of costs, but that doesn't mean an IBM processor in another machine will easily outperform it as you seem to be suggesting.

"The IBM designed Cell was faster than most desktop CPU's (x86) at mathematical calculations"

Sort of. CELL is a heavily parallelised processor. The key bit here is that 'mathematical calculations' are not the same as 'running game code better'. An X86 CPU from the past 6 or 7 years is just stupendously better at running game type code (AI, branching integer which is hugely important) than CELL.

A better comparison is am early GPGPU versus CELL. Which of course, CELL loses too horribly as well.....folding at home is dominated by GPUs. But then, that aint gaming either....

Stop being....lame?

mi_titan274168d ago

even if the xbox is more powerful, if sony makes a machine easy to develop for all 3rd party titles, developers will use the new playstation and port to the xbox, therefore having the same result as this gen. Only xbox exclusives will look better, which isnt saying much with their 3 exclusives

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chriski3334169d ago

yea and i can count to potato. these articles are stupid when they do come out theyn we can see which is better or not

cannon88004169d ago

@chriski333

you can only count to potato? I can count to lettuce. Beat that.

Irishguy954169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

Hypocrisy sets in yet again. A never ending cycle of "hurr our console is more powerful than yours"

"powah of teh cell"

"Nvidia rapes Amd"
"Crysis >>> Consoles"
"Nintendo WiiU is weak"

Now that the next Xbox will likely be more powerful due to what happened to Sony's stock this gen, it no longer matters and means nothing. N4G folks

@ kamikaze down there, you are perfectly correct, games matter. WiiU 'may' have games this time, Xbox 'may' start pushing the exclusives(since this was Sony's perogitive and imo it worked) if MS can start ****ing trying then they can do good, since they have the extra money to advertise each and every game they put out.

Sony, whatever happens, even if it turns out weaker than even expected(which is already weaker than Nexbox) will always have their exclusives and games. What I want is better software, firmware etc, other than that a substantial hardware upgrade is fine for me. Don't care how powerful it is compared to the other one.

Either way i'll be getting all 3 at some point, the WiiU is sure to have some solid exclusives again, even if their were only few on the Wii

Eidt--wow someone said i'm butthurt about not having a Ps3 in another article, well, yes I do. Because I feel that certain exclusives are overrated on the system and that 'other' exclusives on the system deserve more recognition, advertising, higher ratings and sales than Uncharted, Killzone, and god of war...I apparently don't own one.

Top 5 Ps3 Exclusives in no order

Heavy Rain
Valkria Chronicles
GT5 with G25 wheel, which I bought specifically for it
Warhawk
Demons souls(even if I like Dark better, still this game is one of my favorite ever)

I'm sure Ni no Kuni will soon be fighting for my top 5

Thatguy-3104169d ago

Well the PS3 is pretty powerful. It only goes up from there. Even if it's slightly i'll still be ok with it. I mean look at games like The Last of Us. Let's just wait and see what happens instead of jumping into conclusions.

s8anicslayer4169d ago

Darth Vader believed the Darkside of the force was more powerful then the Jedi!

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Cueil4168d ago

the price point and how it's handled may really be what separates this generation from the next... Sony could easily copy Microsoft's payment plan (and really they probably will go pay to play online) This will allow a lower entry point for buyers... Not a bad deal to be honest

avengers19784168d ago

Since neither company has confirmed anything about there machines, I'll wait to see what they bring out, I think both will be pretty impressive. I'm always going to be a PlayStation first gamer so I know I'm getting ps4

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FPSRUSSIA4169d ago

i will not be as powerful as the PS4

jp_footy24169d ago

It will not be as powerful as the PS4*

mushroomwig4169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

Not true, your brain is more powerful than all the computers in the world. Computers are programmed to perform tasks, your brain can think for itself.

xtreampro4169d ago

Everything is pointing towards them either being equally powerful or the Xbox 3 being more powerful than the PS4.

Ezz20134169d ago

what "everything" ??!
rumors ?! lol

Cueil4168d ago

rumors are all we have to go on up2013, but yes they seem to point that way. I think it will be a business decision for Sony. They are (allegedly) leaving behind the Cell.

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wishingW3L4169d ago

well, the rumor is that X720 will be 3 times more powerful than the PS4. But seeing how Kinect and the casual market has made the Xbox brand grow so much in America making a powerful console would mean high price tag. And usually, high price mean no casual market for you....

Biggsydaboss4169d ago

There is a persistent rumour going around that Microsoft are going to release 2 consoles next year. One being an uber powerful hardcore machine, the other striped down machine used for entertainment purposes, cloud based gaming & Xbox Live Arcade titles. As for price of the 'daddy' console, well if Microsoft don't mind taking s loss on the console, liked they did on the original Xbox & the 360, they might have it on sale for as little as £350/$500. If they want to go somewhere to breaking even, then a £500/$700 price tag would be more like it.

Cueil4168d ago

It's likely that the 500 dollar mark is about right... add a subscription plan you could maybe drop that down to 300... 2 years 15 dollars a month for XBL Gold... you end up paying more for the console though. I wouldn't mind them doing something along the lines of what T-Mobile is doing with their phone plans... perhaps you'll have to watch ads or something and once you pay off a certain amount then you lose the ads and so on and so forth

yesmynameissumo4169d ago

Power doesn't mean anything. The original Xbox was more powerful than the PS2. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360. So?

BanBrother4169d ago (Edited 4169d ago )

Correct. This title is stupid, though it has done its job.

At the end of the day, until they have both confirmed their specs, it will just be fanboy A vs fanboy B.

Every gen has seen a different company as the most powerful. At the end of the day, it is up to the developers to give us something special. Last gen the PS2 was significantly less powerful than the Xbox, but somehow churned out games as good looking as FFX, God Of War, Killzone etc.

animegamingnerd4169d ago

and power shouldn't matter if a console is good or not look at the great games on the PS2 compare to the xbox

THC CELL4169d ago

Yawn stopped reading when Xbox will be more powerful. Ms should make more games never mind out else

ALLWRONG4169d ago

"Ms should make more games never mind out else"

What?

Dovahkiin4169d ago

"Out" is used colloquially for the word "Anything" in parts of england.

It's stupid i know.

jmac534169d ago

Ha! The English supposedly invented the language!

bumnut4168d ago

Its not spelt 'out' I have no idea how to spell it, I can only say it :)

Workshyskiver4168d ago (Edited 4168d ago )

I believe you're are thinking of Nowt....

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Perjoss4169d ago

I think Microsoft is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.

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Nintendo says Switch 2 will be officially announced before the end of March 2025

This is Furukawa, President of Nintendo. We will make an announcement about the successor to Nintendo Switch within this fiscal year. It will have been over nine years since we announced the existence of Nintendo Switch back in March 2015. We will be holding a Nintendo Direct this June regarding the Nintendo Switch software lineup for the latter half of 2024, but please be aware that there will be no mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during that presentation.

Profchaos6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I'm excited for a switch 2 however I don't feel it will be coming this year as per the tweet in they are commuting to a reveal in this Japanese financial year in 2025.

Realistically we will get one last holiday season to focus on the switch because it would be madness for Nintendo to go into the holidays where the switch always performs well when they have announced a switch 2.

I'm thinking we see a announcement late Jan 25 personally with a release between March and June depending on when the software is ready and how strong the holday sales were if they need to boost those figures for the next earnings call or not

gold_drake6d ago

yea agreed. they'll probably match it with the new pkmn game they announced

VenomUK6d ago

So it begins!

Where one contender pulls out of the game, another comes back bigger and stronger.

Nintendo Switch 2 - let the games begin.

Cacabunga6d ago

A new Splatoon launch title for sure.. hoping they change the recipe and make it open world.

I think it’ll come out Q1 25. Let’s wait and see

H96d ago

There's a event in June for games on the switch and they said there won't be a switch 2 announcement so no way they will announce the console after june and still release it in the same year

Eonjay6d ago

So, I think they will shoot for another FYQ4 release (like with the first Switch) but I am confused by the headline:

'[...] Switch 2 will be officially ANNOUNCED before the end of March 2025' This implies that the Switch 2 isn't coming out till maybe holiday 2025 or maybe even 2026. I think they will be better served by NOT releasing when GTA 6 launches (unless there is some shocking reveal that it will run on Switch 2). Release early 2025.

Neonridr6d ago

I'd say it'll be released before March 2025 tbh.

notachance6d ago

Holiday announcement with summer launch

thesoftware7306d ago

It should be an interesting year; Sony, Nintendo, and MS all have new Hardware to show.

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy8526d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted26d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere26d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook726d ago (Edited 26d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy8526d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga26d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher26d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble25d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike26d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv7226d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts25d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire26d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer199226d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga26d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk26d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 72126d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty26d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds26d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx1226d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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XDefiant misses launch window, Ubi says a new release date will be announced after stress test

XDefiant was originally supposed to be out in summer 2023, but following a seemingly-successful beta test in April of that year, it was bumped to October 2023, and then delayed again to an unspecified future date. In its February 2024 financial report, Ubisoft slated XDefiant for launch in the fourth quarter of its 2023-24 fiscal year, which ended March 31.

A week before that date arrived, rumors surfaced that the game would be delayed yet again, and a few days later Ubisoft made it official.

"The game has always been community-first, with player feedback as a top priority," the development team said in the update. "While we hoped to go live by the end of March, there are still some improvements that we need to test before that."

Ubisoft said it's "finishing preparations" for a server stress test that will run for 12 hours on PC, PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X|S. "After this short test, we expected to be able to lock a launch date and start sharing more about exciting content XDefiant has to offer in the future!"

just_looken41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The previous news was from the team/rumors this is ubisoft themselves now saying the game is delayed again no new date set but they will have a stress test on a date that has not been set.

So the game is delayed to _____ TBD
Network stress test at ____ TBD

Ubisoft we make games whenever for whoever we just do not care

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X-2340d ago

I'm just going to be honest here and say what people seem to not want to, XDefiant success is going to be short-lived and it's because it's a game that's going to be under Ubisoft's umbrella. The development team can be absolute rockstars, but with Ubisoft steering the ship it's not going to go anywhere.

Profchaos40d ago

It could be a truely amazing game (it won't be) but with Ubisoft it will be monitized within a inch of its life.

smolinsk40d ago

The game is dead move on. It's the same with the Finals. These short period hype games doesn't last.

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