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Submitted by JoelT 803d ago | opinion piece

Why Sony Should Exit The Console Hardware Business

Joel Taveras writes, "When you think the word ‘PlayStation,’ what immediately comes to mind? Is it high end hardware? Is it Blu-Ray? Oh, I know, it’s 3D gaming, isn’t it? Come on, who am I kidding? It’s obviously none of these things.

When you think PlayStation, the first thing that should come to mind are the iconic characters and games. Memorable archetypes that have stood — and will stand — the test of time. Favorites like Jack and Daxter, Kratos, Sly, Nathan Drake and the list goes on and on. It’s Sony’s first party DNA that has paved the way to make PlayStation, and, more importantly, Sony Computer Entertainment, what it is today." (Industry, PS Vita, PS3, Sony)

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Walker  +   803d ago | Well said
There was a great JOKE .
Resistance_lord  +   803d ago
What was that about Price Increase?.
darthv72  +   803d ago
you never want to see..
a company exit unless it is under certain situations. The "A", #1 would be if they are the ONLY one supporting it. A good example would be SNK.

They were a great company that made fun arcade games and tried their hand at the home console market. Problem was, they were pretty much the only ones making games for their home arcade console.

There were a few third parties but nothing to the extent of support like other platforms had. Looking back at Sony's track record, their original focus (in games) was as a software house. Mickey Mania and Hook are still a couple of my favorite Sony Imagesoft games.

Their entry INTO consoles was at the hand of Nintendo. I mean they had been making chips (video and sound) for the N and sega platforms and when approached to cooperate on a CD drive for the SNES I really fely it was a good decision Nintendo made.

Nintendo didnt think so but at least Sony was able to take their idea and turn it into something personal. something they would own and be proud of. People tend to forget that sony, essentially, was in the same situation that MS is now.

They didnt have the stable of in house studios to make dedicated games back then so they had to make deals for titles with the same companies Sega was courting for their Saturn. i guess we could say that was the original time when paying for exclusives wasnt considered a bad thing.

What worked for them was they were new. They offered a new perspective on an entertainment medium that was considered childs play. Sega was somewhat taken more seriously in the Genesis days but even they knew they were getting overlooked by the shiny newcomer. Sony had ideas then (they still do) but obviously delivering on them was a risk because they were new.

Seems like the risk paid off in the end. So here we are, many MANY years later and another newcomer has entered the ring. MS. Plenty said it wouldnt work and i have to think back to that same sentiment when sony entered the ring. Two different companies and yet the same public opinion.

Kudos to sony for winning over the public and becoming a viable force in the gaming business. So now, why cant we give MS the same respect? That answer.....is like "how many licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop" the world may never know.
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sikbeta  +   803d ago
SLim V2 is more expensive than V1 Slim, it has no fancy and awesome slot-loading drive, dust-magnet top-loading tray (laser could get f@#*ed by that) + ridges and honestly, that's like cheapest plastic ever, I mean difference is kind of too obvious going from fatty -> Slim -> Slimmer

O-T

I don't want Sony to exit the console race, but there isn't much that can be done if they keep sinking like they do, I don't have problems switching to XBX3 or Wii-U as my main console, but sure PlayStation will be missed
Dee_91  +   803d ago
He's basically saying Sony should stop making hardware and let the developers make games for xbox and wii ........................
I dont even..
MikeMyers  +   803d ago
There's no need in Sony abandoning the console market, at least not until the demand goes away. What I think will happen is what we perceive as a game console will slowly change with each system like we've been seeing. Consoles today do a lot more than just gaming. Sony's acquisition of Gaikai will also change what a console does and further extend Sony's reach of getting consumers.
EeJLP-  +   803d ago
Sony is still on pace to finish this generation in 'first place' in terms of hardware sales; unlike the 'third place finish' the article mentions.

They have already 'won' this generation in terms of quantity and quality of full retail exclusives.

The PS3 is likely to surpass the 360 in hardware sales within a few months, if not about April 2013 at the latest when GoW: Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, etc. release.

After that it sets it's sight on the Wii, which is nearly dead in the water with sales plummeting and little software incoming with the release of the Wii U.

Combine the very slow future growth of the Wii's totals with the fact that the PS3 has yet to hit the mass market / impulse buy $199, $179, $149 or similar price points. It's clear the PS3 is extremely unlikely to have a 'third place finish' this gen.
guitarded77  +   803d ago | Well said
Sony would be the last of the big 3 I'd want to leave the hardware field. I personally like having three strong companies... it drives innovation, competition and makes gaming better.
GarandShooter  +   803d ago
@ Darth

Nothing has changed, but technology. The human animal didn't change in the time span between the PS1 release and the Xbox release. There have always been idiots, they just have a more readily available forum now.

If anything, I blame Al Gore and his invention of the internet.
yoshiroaka  +   803d ago
He fails to realize the reason sony makes great games as well as original games that takes risks is to support their console.

If the game flops it doesnt matter because its about pushing their console and the console makes them money through royalties etc. If they dont have a console to push then the effort and risks they take will not be as great. They may even turn to a sub par developer. Almost every game Sega made used to be great when they had a console to push. But not so much now.

Even a great studio like Naughty Dog cant make and uncharted quality game on the same level with a gimped budget.
If sony didnt have the money or potential money coming in from its consoles to justify blowing a huge budget on games then the games will suffer.
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RumbleFish  +   803d ago
What are all those so called journalists smoking? SONY are selling and supporting 4 consoles at the moment.
PS2, PS3, PSP and PS Vita.
Why should they stop making consoles?

I must be drunk that I'm on this site again...
knowyourstuff  +   803d ago
LMAO yeah you'd have to be drunk to eat a single word of the nonsense that goes on on this stupid website that has all the integrity of a tabloid magazine that does nothing but make sh*t up over and over again. There are so many trolls, and idiots with no writing skills fishing for hits, it's just all nonsense and anyone with an IQ above 80 knows it.

Sony is doing just fine, they make all the best exclusives, they certainly take more risks and innovate and drive the industry forward more than anyone else, and the only ones who want them in the business anymore are their competitors, and the fanboys that support their competitors.
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Getowned  +   803d ago
I'm not even reading this, there is no need at all for Sony to leave the gaming/console business. Why was this approved. I'm not a Fanboy I've liked most consoles and play on PC often, but ever since the Wii U was announced people have been out on full force to attack Sony and try to discourage PS fans. Doom and gloom playstation articles seem all the rage lately and no one brings any prof at all. I don't wany any of the big 3 to stop making consoles, and the day one of them drops will be a vary dark time in gaming history.

Actually, I desided to read this article, and I've come to the conclusion that who ever wrote this dosen't know a damn thing about what he's talking about, he's only grasping at straws that are unimportant in the big picture. Infact most, if not all of his arguments are extremely flawed and under researched. This article dosen't deserve the attention it has gathered. I don't care who's in first or last place in this "war" that some fanboys have invented, but this is just idiotic.

To sum up what I've wanted to say.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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-Superman-  +   803d ago
Sony has gave one of the best console games exclusives, and now exist hardware business?
God of war, littlebigplanet, uncharted, mgs and all those games...
The less Competition there is, the less games microsoft and nintendo are going to make.
More Competition is always better.
doogiebear  +   803d ago
@Darthv72:

Microsoft is run by a bunch of casual-audience-loving, greedy, money hungry, kinect pushers. Microsoft spends more money making commercials that deceptively fool people into thinking that the average AAA 3rd party game is exclusive to xbox, INSTEAD of ACTUALLY spending the money fee's from Live on actual exclusives. Plus even after charging just to play online, M$ pockets your money any way because the pay for their online through all the ads on Live. Why in the heck are there ads? So microsoft is the biggest band of crooks to grace the gaming world. They've introduced more negative trends into the industry then any other company. Don't get mad at me if u got an xbox--I honestly mean no disrespect. But if Sony was doing half the dumb stuff MS puts it's customers through, then i'd be condemning Sony too. Fortunately Sony is still loyal to gamers (for now).
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pixelsword  +   803d ago
I think the closet fanboy journalists are still bitter about Mass Effect...
zeeshan  +   803d ago
Think someone should write an article about this author with the title that reads, "Why this {insert_author_name_here} should quite writing lame-ass articles".
TheMrMadzen  +   803d ago
What was that? I couldn't hear you over the 500GB!
Peppino7  +   803d ago
This writer should exit the writing industry.
morganfell  +   803d ago
I'll repeat what I said in another article. Dualshockers publishes this article.

Then some guy called Dualshockers_Carlos submits this article:

My 2 Cents: "The Last of Us Probably Won't Sell Very Well"

http://n4g.com/news/1100413...

Pattern of hate? Agenda? One is owned by Dan Curtis and the other by Joel Taveras but the evidence is pretty clear.

And to answer the critics of that thought, I don't remember seeing any " Why Microsoft should get out of the hardware business/game industry" articles despite only having two consoles, one for which they dropped support fairly quickly and the second which suffered the biggest hardware failure debacle in the history of gaming.

Add to this their studio killing practice and one can only scratch their head over why Sony is the one constantly targeted. It is Sony who has had several great and well supported consoles and handhelds and an expansive and broad library of games that are the ones targeted for continual hammering by adolescent writers serving a certain piece of competing hardware.

It's fairly easy to spot a website like dualshockers that has no grasp of the industry, provides no service to the demographic about whose hobby they write, and is run by a transparent agenda driven individual. The sooner websites like his disappear the better we as gamers will be.
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Tvensky  +   803d ago
or..

why should stupid people never get born!?
G20WLY  +   802d ago
This was written by the same genius that wrote a 430 degree, hit-hunting article on why he was going to trade in his Vita for a tablet lmao!

Notorious Sony doubter/hater - hardly level headed, bias-free journalism...

On topic: I couldn't disagree more with his article(s).
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HarryMasonHerpderp  +   803d ago
Yes Sony makes great software and we do think about their iconic characters when you hear the word Playstation, but they also make great hardware for us to play as these characters.
The guys got a point and I can see where he's coming from but Sony are good at making hardware, they make slick and reliable consoles.
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Unlimax  +   803d ago
I don't know what the story of these people with Sony itself!

Jealousy blinded insight ... They know that a playstation device is the most successful gaming system throughout the ages.

I would like to know what Microsoft did to the gaming industry with their useless platform called "Xbox" since 2001 ..

Kinect >> Sony Eye Toy ( 2000 )
Multiplayer >> Dreamcast did that already ( 1998 ) !
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slayorofgods  +   802d ago
Microsoft is as it has always been.. A company that takes old ideas and markets them to the mainstream. The eye toy and dream casts multiplayer were half-hearty decisions to kind of test the water. The thing Microsoft does, just as they did with windows, is they take that idea and they market it and they push it as if it is the next big thing. AKA they actually take a risk with it to get it out there. Lets face it Sony's eye toy isn't very commonly known and hand movement in games would not have reached the mainstream without kinect, just like multiplayer online.
dboyc310  +   803d ago | Well said
Nope they have built a stable ecosystem that has a variety of games. Saying that they should exit the console hardware business is like asking Nintendo the same question. Nintendo and Sony are stapled into the "Gaming" industry whether people like it or not. Each have shared ups and downs but they are what GAMING has built up to be.
Blastoise  +   803d ago
Well said.
TheRacingX  +   803d ago
Ditto....and even though all companies are out to make $$$ and loads of it, Sony cares about its customer and values the $ you just gave it, and wants to make sure you enjoy what they just sold you for a long time so you come back again to buy their next product as well.....brand loyalty

I own both a 360 and an original Xbox, I loved the 1st Xbox, lots of new and original stuff, yeah I may have been peeved they squoze my beloved Sega out of the market, taking everything the Dreamcast tried and did and called it Xbox live, but that was OK , I still got the great Sega games along with new stuff like Mechassault, Crimson skies, Brute Force, etc, but then the 360 came, and after some initial offerings...the new and original stuff dried up, it turned to "exclusive DLC" which I still have to pay for, "improved" xbox live which I seemed to be paying more and more for, then....a melted console... "dont worry we'll fix it, nothings wrong" ......then another, then "sorry we wont fix it anymore buy another"....I'm sorry but microsoft lost me, they did everything to GET me as a customer but did NOTHING to keep me as a customer...
If they left I would also exit. And stick with using only my pc.

Unmatched quality on console would also exit the market.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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GribbleGrunger  +   803d ago
Just Sony?

PSP/PS3/PS2/PSVita/PSMobile.. .

How about a company that has contributed little and only has one console?
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jujubee88  +   803d ago
Have you seen some of Sony's/SCE's marketing for those respective services/products?

PSP: Racist commercials. Made a reputation for itself trying to combat piracy and failing.

PSV: SCE/Sony are spending millions on PSV marketting when all they need now is a price drop and sink more money into games/ideas for games.

PSM: No marketing yet, I guess it is still in beta?...

...I mean, the Playstation Mobile Ads (on YT) look like they promote htc, Asus, other partners, the fact VITA can play PSM content, etc. while neglecting to sell other indy devs on the fact PSM is the only ONLY platform in town that can play on multiple Android hardware (old or new w/out a hitch as long as its certified), has a great DRM guidelines, and will have the backing of PSN ... FREAKING PLAYSTATION NETWORK, THE HOME OF AAA FRANCHISES, JOURNEY, ETC!!!

Yet, this is the commercial SCE's/Sony's marketting team made for PSM...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

... I think I am going to get a headache. Their messaging is just so out of tune with PSM. ~.~'
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darthv72  +   803d ago
gribb
your examples look strangely familiar. as if there was once another platform holder that was trying to do too many things at the same time.

In fact, I would suggest Sony NOT be as supportive as they are trying to be. i know that may sound crazy but wouldnt it make better sense for them to focus on a single platform within the different markets?

PS3 for console, PSV for portable and the PSMobile for everything else in mobility. Yes that would mean them discontinuing support for PS2 and PSP. But that support would then be turned towards their current platforms.

Support for the discontinued lines would (could) still come from outside sources. i mean even nintendo knew when to change gears and put all their efforts into the SNES. The NES continued thanks to strong 3rd party relations. Yeah its funny to read "Nintendo" and "strong 3rd party relations" in the same sentence.

By no way is Sony like Sega in terms of losing $$ and support. But they ARE like Sega in trying to be the main line of support for ALL of their platforms. Even ones that are certainly past their prime.

Remember, Sega was supporting Genesis, CD, 32X, Saturn, Master system (in other countries) AND Game gear. That is 6 platforms with a 7th (Dreamcast) in the works. Its no wonder why Sega did what they did.

i am only offering up the idea that sony play things a bit closer to their chest. PS3, PSV and PSMobile should be their main focus. Let the other platforms continue to be supported by other means.
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GribbleGrunger  +   803d ago
Yes, too much diversity CAN have an adverse effect, I agree, but this is how Sony have always done business since 1946, when Masaru Ibuka (who ran an electronics shop) was eventually joined by Akio Morita and they then formed Sony. They then went on to create the worlds first tape recorder.

Sony was built up with the family business ethos central to their strategy and gained a reputation as the 'Everyman' company, eschewing immediate profits for long term investment. And I think it paid off, don't you?

At the heart of Sony's philosophy is the idea that you can only expect support if you continuously supply demand and deliver on that promise regardless of whether it always serves the consumer better than yourself. This reputation may well be slightly old fashioned in todays markets where money moves digitally around the world in seconds, but to Sony's credit they have stuck fast to that strategy.

Because Sony have that reputation, developers know that Sony mean it when they say their consoles will have a ten year lifecycle, which is why I find it odd when people laughed when they also included the Vita in that strategy. This is WHY support for PS1 and PS2 (and now PSP) carried on even after the new consoles had released.

Look at the long term prospects, not just the short term gains: PSP games will eventually find a new market on the Vita and PSP owners are more likely to eventually upgrade to a Vita when the price drops. PS2 is now a 'branding' console and offers a cheap alternative for the first time buyer, who can then get cheap second hand games to play.

All of this is now under one umbrella, PSN and Sony complete organisation is under SEN. This centralizes everything and makes distribution of resources key. Now how do you distribute those resources to all PS branded goods and beyond? You buy Gaikai
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andibandit  +   803d ago
@gribblegrunger

You are illuminating sonys problem......jack of all trades, king of none. I wish they would pour their skills into making one fantastic product, instead og making a bunch of good ones. Maybe if they only had one product, they would market it like they should.
GribbleGrunger  +   803d ago
It's not a problem per-say. Last gen, no one thought Sony's strategy was wrong, it's only because they're success has diminished that people say it now. NO business can find the top line and expect it to remain stable forever, there are always going to be dips because of competition.

The company will go up again at some point and all this will be forgotten. Remember that the PS3 is approaching 6 years and has 'at least' another 4 years of shelf life. The PSP is 7 years old and will continue for another 3 years and the PS2 is still selling. The Vita is no different.

It is NOT the gaming department that is losing them money, it's their TVs and Cameras, and this is because of 'competition'. Hold fast and watch. Only consumers engage in short-termism.
SegataShanshiro  +   803d ago
Nobody cared about online on consoles until halo 2 came out....ps2 did not make online on consoles famous, it was the hecksbawx that you hate so much

And lol at the disagrees cause facts are facts like them or not
GribbleGrunger  +   803d ago
The HDD bay in the PS2 was there for a reason. Originally, Sony was going to create an online infrastructure but decided against it because online just wasn't good enough or stable enough. Even now it isn't perfect but it was much worse back then. They just waited a generation.
knifefight  +   803d ago | Well said
Read more in my upcoming book: Why Dualshockers Should Exit The Journalism Business.
TheGOODKyle  +   803d ago
Perfect
Syntax-Error  +   803d ago
Should've read...
"Why Sony should partner with Microsoft for console domination"

MS-Handles online development and OS
Sony-Handles hardware
Both split production cost and design

Software development remains the same and everyone wins. THE END
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SilentNegotiator  +   803d ago
Sony never hit as far bottom as Nintendo with the Gamecube. Why shouldn't Sony be given the chance to continue?
Benjamminkno  +   803d ago
I don't know. Vita is doing worse wouldn't you say?
SilentNegotiator  +   803d ago
Come off it. It's not even a year old.
-Superman-   803d ago | Bad language | show
moparful99  +   803d ago
Why dualshockers should exit the journalism business.. See above....
CarlosX360  +   803d ago
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

News piece/Topic title is stupid. BOOOOO!
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IAmLee  +   803d ago
Another day, another hate article about SONY.
Who keeps approving this Bullshit..
geddesmond  +   803d ago
Lol my thoughts exactly. Yeah Sony should leave one of the only divisions making them money lol. The media is plagued with amateurs writing about their opinions
morkendo23  +   803d ago
from KNOWYOURSTUFF

"this stupid website that has all the integrity of a tabloid magazine that does nothing but make sh*t up over and over again"

and yet people still come here on a daily base complainting,whining,crying about sh't they dont know about for hits.
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chriski333  +   803d ago
why doesnt this trolling writer leave the business
Merrill  +   803d ago | Well said
Please rename this article to: "Why DualShockers Joel Taveras Should Exit Game Journalism"

If Microsoft and Nintendo were my only choice I would exit buying future systems.
Gridloc  +   803d ago
Agreed...
HammadTheBeast  +   803d ago
Yes Joel, Sony should just "exit" the market with one of their most profitable areas. Smart decision right? /sarcasm.
JoelT  +   803d ago
I'm sorry I didn't know that it was a shiny piece of plastic and metal that entertained you for all these years.

Is it not the games that make the system? Does it really matter what they are played on?
MattyG  +   803d ago
So you're saying that a Wii has all the same games a PlayStation has?Yes, the system does matter. If they left the console race, do you think those games would still happen? I don't think they would just get handed off to Nintendo or Microsoft. And quite frankly I'm not sure they'd want their rivals old franchises on their consoles.
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Merrill  +   803d ago
In a word JoelT, Yes.

Without that "shiny piece of plastic and metal" that you so elegantly described, there wouldn't be some of the most amazing games ever created. Must I name all the contributions brought to the industry because of Sony??

Do you think these IP's would continue to exits and flourish under the rule of Microsoft alone? Christ, even with competition in the marketplace Microsoft doesn't innovate or bring new IP's worth playing(in my opinion) to gamers. Imagine only them...

If anything should exit the game industry next gen, it should be the current gaming "Journalism" model adopted by people like you. Write about something that doesn't get fanboys all riled up, eh? One can dream...
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moegooner88  +   803d ago
What's up with Dualshockers these days, first a flambait article about Resident Evil being a crappy series since launch, and now this, I guess you guys are desperate for hits, what a shame, I used to have such respect for you guys, ... well not any more
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unworthyBOZO  +   803d ago
"I'm sorry I didn't know that it was a shiny piece of plastic and metal that entertained you for all these years.

Is it not the games that make the system? Does it really matter what they are played on?"

Wow so this is what game journalism is, that's pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Seraphemz  +   803d ago
Im sorry, but this is horse sh*t, these articles are complete nonsense, written by jerks like this guy???

I cant believe the crap that is posted on this site now, it used to be about NEWS, now its overun by dribble like this.
RivetCityGhoul  +   803d ago
it's called competition. competition is what drives the industry dumbass. take your journalism elsewhere cause its not needed here.
Man-E-Faces  +   803d ago
"Is it not the games that make the system?"

JoelT, you must be confused and mistook Sony PlayStation for Microsoft Xbox. Yes?
vividi  +   803d ago
this guy is insane LOL!
dredgewalker  +   803d ago
It matters a lot, if there was only one restaurant in the world then it would be really a sad place to eat...
raWfodog  +   801d ago
It seems I'm late to the party as this article and thread is already two days old but I would still liek to weigh in?

Simple answer: The vast majority of the great IPs and characters we have come to know and love simply may not have existed if Sony never came out with their own console. So, yes, it kind of does matter what system they are played on, if that system is primarily responsible for that games existence.
Godmars290  +   803d ago
I still wonder if not for Sony building up the industry past what Nintendo did in their time if MS would have gotten into it. Or what, given that they've only played it safe, things would be like if it was still only Nintendo and Sega.
Man-E-Faces  +   803d ago
It's been said Microsoft only entered the gaming industry to throw a monkey wrench into PlayStation's growing household dominance, Microsoft never cared to progress gaming they copied many features and their controller from the departed Sega. Just look at how stagnant they are now in the games department, sure they'll pump a few new ip's when their new system launches then it's back to the same formula they have now. I don't trust Microsoft they come off as a very shady company!
Jazz4108  +   803d ago
And people still argue that n4g is not biased towards Sony. These comments would look alot diffrent if it was ms exiting that I can promise. As far as people saying sony will overtake ms this fall can you please stop repeating the same crap every year as its getting redicoulous. Ms always gets outsold by sony until the holiday and thats when ms outsells sony by way more then sony has the entire year. If you really think thats going to change with Halo4 coming then you are Nuts or bonkers. History has repeated itself every year so far and sony has by far there weakest fall release schedule by far. I expect them to be back further then 2 million consoles maybe 3 by the end of the holidays if history keeps repeating itself. As far as the article goes I dont agree with it. We do need competition and sony is a great competitor. I dont feel they are going anywhere as if anything sony would drop all there products and focus on gaming like nintendo before exiting there most profitable area.
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Benjamminkno  +   803d ago
That is interesting. More competition is better. However, I would prefer gaming companies still have a say in hardware decisions. I would point to Sony's SNES, and Micro's DC copied controllers as evidence of their unwillingness to innovate. I don't like the idea of "Entertainment companies" dominating the console arena. I think it's unfair that these companies can lose billions on new consoles and underprice their hardware then wait 5 years to try to monopolize the industry. There would be no casual market to appeal to, or have the 'Move/Kinect', without Nintendo it's that simple. Could Nintendo take losses like the PS3, Xbox or 360 did? Hell no. But it would be a sad day when Mario doesn't decide what kind of controller he uses. I don't want to imagine gaming without Sony or Nintendo. What has Microsoft ever contributed to this industry?
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portal_2  +   803d ago
Why is there article after article after article, day after day regarding Sony in a negative way. These writers and their "opinions" make me ashamed of the gaming industry. Always directed at Sony, always. Well big news opinion-minions Sony isn't exiting the hardware business.
GenHero  +   803d ago
it's because people give these sites hits, if people would just ignore these articles they will go away.
knifefight  +   803d ago
Haha crap I made my reply before scrolling down to read this one! XD

Oh well, high five!
CarlosX360  +   803d ago
I wouldn't go that far, but the sentiment is mutual.
TwiggiePantz  +   803d ago
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Resistance_lord  +   803d ago
DualShockers Joel Taveras what are you doing?, Joel Taveras. Stahp!
GraveLord  +   803d ago
It's the hardware.
Look at PS3, look at Vita. BOTH state of the art at the time of their release.(Vita still is).

Sony makes the best hardware.
Microsoft makes the best sofware.
Nintendo makes the best games.(arguably)
Gen0ne  +   803d ago
Ummm... isn't software games?
Sheikh Yerbouti  +   803d ago
software ~= LIVE

Independent devs make the best games. Nintendo has the best character line-up.
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Blastoise  +   803d ago
Microsoft make the best software?

No, gonna have to disagree there. As for Hardware depends on what you mean, Specs wise the PS3 is obviously best but for reliability and least crashes ect you gotta give it to the Wii.
Bloodraid  +   803d ago
The PS3 has the best specs? That's why Bethesda and Sony couldn't manage to get the Skyrim DLC working, right?
madjedi  +   803d ago
@bloodraid And yet many sony first party games run almost flawlessly, so that tells me it's not a hardware, if sony 1st party devs aren't having problems.

"That's why Bethesda and Sony couldn't manage to get the Skyrim DLC working, right?" Which bethesda admitted is a problem on their end and not sony's.

Plz get some new and good exclusives to brag about, because the superior multiplatform argument was dated 3 yrs ago. It's gotten hilariously sad by now.

@Article Fuck you mr author, having sony titles limited to either nintendo's bare minimum specs philosophy.

Or ms's how fast can we drop the core/hardcore gamers that built the xbox to it's current success to chase after nintendo's market.

Yeah nintendo was dictating to every developer what the hardware will be limited to at one point in time. And thankfully sony said screw that we want to push technologies limits, not drag our feet because we can.

Nintendo gets praised for saving the gaming industry, i am just glad sony was there to save it from nintendo's refusal to adapt to advancing technology.

Sony leaving the console industry would cause more shockwaves than either ms or nintendo quitting. Only one company is seriously pushing the boundaries of gaming, and it definitely isn't nintendo's play it safe approach.

Nintendo or ms is all thats left, stagnation city.
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Cam977  +   803d ago
I disagree, Sony have a prosperous future in the console-market with titles such as Uncharted and Littlebigplanet. Why would they quit now while they're ahead of their game? The ps3 and Vita both have an array of interesting exclusives coming out within the next year - Sony are nowhere near done with consoles in my opinion.
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JoelT  +   803d ago
It's not a "Let's hate Sony article". How about reading first and laying off the caps.
unworthyBOZO  +   803d ago
I did read your article and in the great words of a great film critic "IT STINKS"

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Ron_Danger  +   803d ago
Why would you come here and defend your article? Show a little class and some confidence in your work. People will disagree with you. Just take it like a man a move on.

Or just do the classic South Park Lebron James defense.
KwietStorm  +   803d ago
Write a good article first that isn't coincidentally jumping on the same bandwagon as so many other sites at the same time, then we'll talk.
GarandShooter  +   803d ago
@ Ron_Danger

That's par for the course around here. The worst articles are always written by, submitted by, and defended by the same person. It's a trinity of sorts that just needs a label.

Anyone up to the challenge and glory of naming the trinity?

For once I'd like to see it change up, and have an article written by, submitted by, then trolled by the same individual. At least that would have some entertainment value.
TheGOODKyle  +   803d ago
ahahahahahahaha love it. Perfect karma.
Zefros  +   803d ago
another anti sony article. To be honest, if it wasn't for sony's success with ps1-2 then we probably wouldn't have seen xbox right now.
majiebeast  +   803d ago
If Sony leaves gaming your better off just being a pc gamer. Cause the other 2 are gonna focus on the same tired franchises and genre's. Sony is the only 1 still doing new IP's this late in the console cycle.
Cam977  +   803d ago
That's exactly what I'd do.
GamerElite  +   803d ago
well said
KingofGambling  +   803d ago
here here.
MattyG  +   803d ago
Why articles like this should stop...
smashcrashbash  +   803d ago
Sorry but are people still trying to tell the multi billion dollar company what to do? If Sony took everyone's advice all the time we would have never gotten the PS1 because everyone would have told them that they can't compete with Sega and Nintendo. My advice is to let Sony do what they have to do and let the chips fall where they may.Sony is not Sega so you can't just say that they should do exactly what they did. Business is not as cut and dry as that, You can't just simply give up a division and shift to something else without consequences. You see that is why all this so called 'business advice' fails. People talk as if Sony is a lemonade stand that you can just throw out the lemonade and simply start selling cookies or something. To simply just toss out hardware that you are already invested in is not as simple as people try to make it. despite Sony having financial troubles throwing out the hardware may very well deal them a devastating blow before they can simply offer software options to other systems.Sony has it's plans in motion and no one knows how effective they are or how they affecting Sony internally and yet you on the outside keep advising things that could very well take them over the edge rather then save them from ruin.

Like the people who constantly yell to drop the VITA before they can even try anything to increase it's sales.such drastic measures are not as cut and dry as people put it. Did you know their are barriers to exit as well as entry in business? Many times a company knows that exiting an endeavor can have more serious consequences then if they keep it going. So saying drop everything and run may sound easy and simple but it is not necessarily so. Besides, I figure PlayStation mobile is the solution to putting games to play on other devices.And you also have to look at synergy as a factor as well.Just because Sony says they want to put software on other systems doesn't mean they can come to an agreement with the other companies.Sony's developers may not get along well with the other companies for example. Just because you want connections to happen doesn't mean they will happen for sure.
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Belking  +   803d ago
It looks like they just might be doing that. We still have no evidence that PS4 exists.
MattyG  +   803d ago
Yeah sure there's been nothing but rumors about the PS4, but does that automatically mean it doesnt exist? No, it means they aren't ready to talk about it, just like MS isn't ready to show off Durango. There will inevitably be a COD next year, a FIFA and Madden, but by your logic they aren't going to happen because we haven't heard about them yet.
Belking  +   803d ago
It may exist in dev kit form but sony could actually have different plans to bring next gen games to us.
stonecold3  +   803d ago
the headline should be when is nintendo or m$ going to leave the hardware buisness not sony.
Gen0ne  +   803d ago
Nope, no more Metroid or Zelda? F that!
trouble_bubble  +   803d ago
I'll save a click for the disgruntled, one of the guy's angles is Sony should stop making consoles for the sake of fanboys who only support the other two.

Quote:
"An unfortunate by-product of that kind of hatred and being tied to one platform is that you miss out on so many games. In the case of those that have been glued to their Xboxs and Wiis (respectively), they’ve missed out on some incredible first party experiences that were only available on PlayStation.

Can you imagine the disbelief die hard Gears players would feel if they had the chance to play Uncharted and, in the process, realize that Epic games and Cliffy B did not create the 3rd person shooter? Minds would be blown. OK, seriously now, this is not to take away from iconic franchises like Halo or Forza, but if they were released alongside, let’s say, Killzone or Gran Turismo, on the same platform, would they be held to such a high regard?"

So he says the PS3 has great games, but because fanboys on other consoles refuse to accept that, Sony should stop making hardware so these cheapskates can just buy God of War, Killzone and Uncharted on the 360 and see for themselves. Thing is the Wii for example, was not even HD, it was never after the same audience. So why tell Sony to water down their 1st party games and unique Create/Share/Play online features for consoles with different priorities?
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baodeus  +   803d ago
So it is still a crappy article cause I don't think fanboys on either side will ever acknowledge anything. It sounds like a one sided point of view to me.

although do u guys really think that Forza or Halo wouldnt be as popular if kz and GT also on Xbox? Do u think all reviews for these games up to this point are based entirely on the games own merrit or they have been compared and contrasted to death even though they are on different system?
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kingmushroom  +   803d ago
Playstation will live on
thebudgetgamer  +   803d ago
That's like saying Porsche should srop making cars because Ferrari fanboys don't like them.
MadMen  +   803d ago
Agree

Ferrari owns a Porsche
thebudgetgamer  +   803d ago
Lies!
darkride66  +   803d ago
It's more like saying Formula One cars have the best drivers, so they should stop making Formula One race cars and instead have the drivers all race around in Civics. It's a ridiculous argument, in my opinion. You really think it's in Sony's best interest to let Microsoft dictate hardware terms? Or Nintendo? Hell, why don't they all just give up hardware and everyone can make games for the Iphone. It makes about as much sense.

And what always gets me about these articles examining Sony's current financial situation and what should be done is the blind ignorance displayed by these sites as to one of the major factors contributing to Sony's current predicament. The foreign exchange markets. S&P predicts that even though electronics sales aren't expected to improve, a stabilization of FX markets will return Sony to profitability in FY13, and earnings per share for Sony will increase over 2000% by FY14.

Sony's not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination, but there's so many quick to say "Sony needs to do this or that," or that they're altogether doomed, yet you never see them address the major roles that things like recent natural disasters and the FX markets have had, and they always leave you with the impression that these are all problems unique to Sony, when these factors are hitting the entire Japanese electronics market, not just Sony.
vividi  +   803d ago
I love playstation!
sashimi  +   803d ago
Sometimes...i wish time would just go back to the 90s and early 2000s because there's so much dumb people on the internet nowadays who work as so called journalist when really they are just a bunch of hacks who couldn't get a real job in society. All they do nowadays is think of ways to incite the fanboys, flame the console wars to new heights for hits.

Please get a real job and contribute to society, instead of lowering the level of society every time you speak your mind which is clearly full of rubbish.
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ChunkyLover53  +   803d ago
No, no, no, no and no. We need competition when it comes to games and game consoles. Right now Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo form a symbiont circle, what happens to one affects the other. This applies to the people buying from those three as well, one price cut forces others, one great game franchise forces the other to release great game franchises, they push and challenge each other and the consumer gets the benefits.

Less competition means us gamers would have it a lot worse, there would be little motivation for the remaining console makers to think outside of the box and innovate.
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GamerElite  +   803d ago
well said..
trouble_bubble  +   803d ago
Agreed. Competition for our time and money makes US the winner. I would even endorse ANOTHER hardware option on top of the 3 we already have, 4 if you count PC. Just to shake things up even more.

Steam Console, the return of Sega (Sonic, Valkyria Chronicles, Phantasy Star, Yakuza exclusives plus legacy titles). Want the games to ultimately be front and center again, not NPD, which Gaikai will pretty much null and void.
BigStef71  +   803d ago
Well said
MadMen  +   803d ago
Is this a joke?

Nintendo should exit the hardware console business
telekeneticmantis  +   803d ago
If Sony Stops
Hardcore gaming slowly dies. No thanks.
josephayal  +   803d ago
The WII U Say HI
telekeneticmantis  +   803d ago
Tell him
I said hello back... As I was saying Sony must stay, or based on recent evidence and trends hardcore gaming might die.
fabod86  +   803d ago
PS3 does it! Wii U has to prove it.
Sokol  +   803d ago
I sometimes wonder if "PC gaming is dead" or "Sony is doomed" is more popular with so called gaming journalism..

What a joke of an article..
portal_2  +   803d ago
Like the website?: No
Story?: WTF?
GamerzElite  +   803d ago
Haters gonna hate...
MastaPiff  +   803d ago
The author of this article should exit the "gaming journalism" business.
InTheLab  +   803d ago
You know, selling 66m consoles was unheard of until Sony did it and they've at least sold that much every gen. Who else has accomplished that aside from Nintendo and only with their handhelds.

Also, how do you compare Sega to Sony? Even if Sony managed to lose all 3rd party support (which will never happen), they still have a ton of studios to support the console, unlike Sega which crumpled months after release.

The author also fails to point out the REASON WHY THE DREAMCAST FAILED, WHICH WAS THE PS2!

As for Sony games releasing on Xbox, what makes the author think that two companies with vastly different business models would get along...particularly one that has yet to accomplish anything in 2 generations other than second place? Wouldn't it make more sense to release games on the WiiU?

Lastly, all that crap about ND and other Sony devs FINALLY getting to make DX11 games on the next Xbox...lol. So stupid...
fabod86  +   803d ago
one of the best comments so far... bubble +
jetlian  +   803d ago
few things wrong with your post. 1st 66 million by itself means nothing since sony hasnt made much if any money out of the 66 million sold.

2nd sony is the poorest of the 3 just like sega was which makes it easy for the other companies to buy out 3rd party support.

3rd the dreamcast failed because EA the largest game developer denied selling games on the console.

4th sony doesnt truly have any major gaming ips that could hold their system afloat. GT doesnt come out fast enough. gow and UC cant sell alot out side of bundling. They would run parallel to MS every other year ip stance
trouble_bubble  +   803d ago
Yakuza
Valkyria Chronicles
Motorstorm
Gran Turismo
Demons Souls
inFamous
Uncharted
Resistance
LittleBigPlanet
God of War
Warhawk
Killzone
Heavenly Sword
Heavy Rain
MetalGearSolid 4
MAG
ModNation Racers
Sports Champions
Ratchet&Clank

All million selling IP on Sony's rig. A console doesn't need one IP alone to sell 10 million in order to stay afloat, or Sonic the Hedehog would've saved Sega. The original XBox wouldn't have sold a mere 24 million behind Halo: Combat Evolved. GameCube wouldn't have sold a mere 22 million behind Mario/Zelda/Samus. Everyone always seems to forget those pink elephants in the room.

Even beyond sales, MLB The Show dominates the baseball IP every year. Owning your own studios and monopolising niches has its benefits. Not every game needs to sell a million to break even. Most games are lucky to sell 500,000. Just ask the Witcher 2. For all its pomp & circumstance, the Mass Effect IP has never passed 3 million a pop on the 360, even during the exclusivity of 1&2. Yet its one of the defining IP of this generation.
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InTheLab  +   803d ago
Well...most of what you wrote is factually incorrect...so I'll assume you are either ignorant or trolling...

God of War 3 sold over 3m before being bundled.

UC3 sold over 4m before being bundled.

Every major exclusive is bundled at some point. For example...Forza tends to sell 1 to 2 million before being heavily bundled. Halo 3 is one of the most bundled games of all time followed by the first Gran Turismo...

Turismo does not need to be annualized or milked to the extent of other racers because it is complete when shipped.

Sony has made a profit off the PS3 for years now. The PS2 and PSP are still on the market.

Sony is so broke, they bought Gaikai /sarcasm

Nintendo has 3 failed consoles.

MS has 1 failed console.

Sony has 0 failed consoles and 0 failed handhelds.

Sony as a company is in bad shape but the PS brand is strong.

The only company to buy out 3rd party support was Nintendo 2 weeks ago with Bayonetta. Timed exclusives don't mean s***.

Why did EA back out of the Dreamcast? Could it be the terrible sales? Why did the DC sell so poorly? You know why.
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jetlian  +   803d ago
No im not factually incorrect. And the fact you didnt and couldnt comment on my first 3 responses lets me know you dont know what your talking about inthelab.

Halo 3 was no where near gt3aspec's 2 year bundle with every ps2. the 160gb uncharted 3 bundle came out almost with the release of the game! GOW3 was bundled fast and its getting put in a collection.

My point about all this other crap you wrote. Sonys exclusive cant carry them the way Nintendo has mario/zelda etc MS has halo/forza. Sony is down to 20 billion in worth which is the lowest of the 3.

Theres a reason why you dont see that many commecials or they dont get timed exclusives or arcade games. They dont have the money to secure it.

This is the first gen sony actually had to work for theirs. Sony had 3rd party in their pockets last 2 gens.

Trouble bubble did you even look at that list? how many of those are 3rd party devs? How many of those are highly sought after series? yea didnt think so.

Far to many sony fans dont realize sony doesnt own a lot of the ips they like so much.

And with cost being so high on game design extra content or time will be the basis of most multiplatform gaming.

If you think timed exclusive going away next gen you can forget about it.

Yea I know why EA backed out they didnt like sega put GDrom's instead of dvd. That was their reason to boycott the system. Sega had bad history with gamers even before Dreamcast.
Ezz2013  +   803d ago
@jetlian
WTF ?!
do you even have a proof to back you up ?!
pretty much all ps3 exclusives sell over 3+m
and lol again halo and gears get bundles since day one

didn't you see gears 3 bundle or halo reach bundle or halo 4 bundle ?!
what a sad troll

and what the hell is this ?!
"did you even look at that list? how many of those are 3rd party devs? How many of those are highly sought after series? yea didnt think so.
"

all of his list are playstation exclusives
you will never see them out side ps console
you will never see those 2rd party titles :
MGS 4
Heavenly Sword
Demons Souls
on any console

how many exclusives outside gears and halo sold 3+m ?!
how much forza 4 sold ?!
how much fable 3 sold ?!
how much crackdown 2 sold ?!
how much alan wake sold ?!
how much splinter cell conviction sold ?!
should i go on or you had enough ?!

and ps3 have it own huge ips like god of war and uncharted etc of long list
that outscore your lovely only two xbox exclusiveshalo and gears and they get awards unlike xbox exclusives
(well halo 4 have chance this year since sony big guns coming out next year
i would lol if halo 4 didn't win awards when they have nothing to face this year)
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jetlian  +   803d ago
why should I reply to a 4 hour account? any way fable does over 3 as does forza ,l4ds,gears,halo, kinect sports.

Never said they were coming to 360 I said sony doesnt have the ips to stay afloat and some of the series he listed are from 3rd party devs.

pretty much all ps3 exclusives sell 3+ million lol ok.... heavenly sword ,demon souls, mag, modnation rac yakuza, VC infamous motorstorm, h-rain didnt sell 3 + and I could go on
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Ezz2013  +   802d ago
@jetlian
where is the link that say those ps3 exclusives sold less than 3+m ?!
and sony have far more Ip's and new ip's as well to make them in very good spot
unlike the same old gears/halo/forza

and forza 4 didn't sold over 3m
it only sold around 2m

and lol at your list of xbox "exclusives"
you only make me laugh at you
MySwordIsHeavenly  +   803d ago
If they quit, I quit.
Vickistheman  +   803d ago
Hmmmm ok so the company that's been the most successful the past 3 gens should quit?

PS1 = 100 mil - destroys weak competition
PS2 = 160 mil and counting - destroys weak competition and still destroying it
PS3 = 65 mil and counting - selling at faster pace than 360, got outsold by Nintendo(a great long time competitor)

Sony is gearing up for the future with gakai which might be a part of a futre "exit strategy" for hardware. But they are no where near to being close to exiting anytime soon.

Keep dreaming haters.
TheKayle  +   803d ago
harcore gaming will never die..and sony didnt invent it...anyway..i dont want sony leave i just would they stop trolling all the day long "we do this we do the best...blalbbalalb" and think at how do good marketing..istead go around speak bullshits.....fail after fail they r becoming like p moulinex

look at ps3 ending 3 (and guys dont bore me..sayin in some years they could become 1) this gen is pretty end ..the wii u is coming out ...(it end there)....THEIR gen can continue as much they want this dont mean they didnt end third...but still sony didnt make lots of money with the ps3...they start to get income last year...coz the ps3 was too expansive for them to produce...on same sales nientendo and ms take lots of more money than sony...so...they will end third for sure

look at the vita sales...against 3ds

look at the move/sony eye ..sales....agaisnt kinect

and sad to say...(coz they r all great games) .look at uncharted/kz/godofwar sales......halo could eat all of that 3 in one time if we alk about sales...

i know sales dont do good games...but they put money in the company pocket...to improve themself...

sony been pretty arrogant with their talking..and also this last move...with the new slimmer console....at the same price of the old slim is stupid...

gaikai? i dont have idea of what they could do with that company right now..if not just show demos for the ps hardware...so is nothing of seriously revelant ..coz u cant do something serious ..cutting out...ppl that have internet cap and slow connection.....they just cant (coz down cap is pretty in all the countries)
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fabod86  +   803d ago
did you finish? lol
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BlaqMagiq24  +   803d ago
Wow dude how about some proper English? What you still in grade school?
AlucardFury  +   803d ago
Maybe English isn't his first language? This is the world wide web you know....
SpinalRemains138  +   803d ago
Exactly.

Because when your brand is well established, your userbase installed, and your business succeeding, the initial reaction is scrap it all in favor of making software only.

This piece may be the worst garbage I've ever read on N4G. I've read quite a bit of trash, but this borders on somehow making propaganda out of videogame opinions.
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