X-Play Exclusive: GTA IV Console Battle

Adam Sessler gets some time with Newsweek's N'Gai Croal and Kotaku's Brian Crecente as they discuss Grand Theft Auto IV and what it means to the 360/PS3 console war.

[TUFFnNYC]

Wow never been first here. Anyway, so what do we get from this? Nothing. They know as much as we know already. However, imo DLC will not be a significant boost in terms of exclusive sales. They arent releasing exactly what the DLC entails and its coming out months later. People lose interest in it. At that time we will have other games to play. 360 will have Gears 2 and PS3 will have R2 and Killzone2. Feel me?

[ion666]

theres gonna be so much other stuff to do i predict xbox 360 will be obsolete in feb.09.this and metal gear life is good

.....life could be simple.

[sonarus]

Precisely. How they plan to use unknown DLC as a selling point makes me wonder. This is the primary reason why i think DLC will be lame or there is some kind of strings attached. If you got the DLC deal to get more ppl to play GTA on your system, then why not tell us what it is so we can make that choice. You can't advertise DLC and have someone say oh what is it...oh we can't tell you but its coming.

[Proxy]

Microsoft paid a lot for that content, and they either had no idea what they were paying for, or they knew what it would be; I'm guessing they knew what they were spending their money on.

But, if MS does know what the new exclusive content will be, now is the time to tell us, when the big sales numbers will be made. Yet, they haven't told us what the DLC will be, and I have my own suspicion as to why; you can form your own opinion.

In the end though, you can't go wrong with either version. Two thumbs up R*!

Below: Actually, when I heard about MGS4, I had a pretty good idea what it was going to be like. I had my suspicions when I first heard about GTA IV; you never know with these kinda things, and I thought GTA IV might end up being a remake of Frogger. Serious: You at least know the general idea of the game, a new FPS, a new RPG, etc. We know nothing about this DLC as far as I know. It could be anything from a few extra missions, to a whole other city.

[KingME]

You can to do that, and that is exactly what is done everytime a new IP or a sequel is announced. When you were told MSG4 was coming out or even GTA IV. You had absolutely no ideal what the game as going to be like or what content would be added.

It's just a matter of perspective.

[Angelitos]

There is no question on which is better.

PS3 Version

Better AA, Less frame drops, Less pop-ups, graphics look more realstic, and sixaxis support.

PS3 online is Free
PS3 will also be getting exclusive DLC
PS3 wil have the trophy system

The 360, will only be having a different exclusive DLC, that I'm definetly not paying for.

[Ureval]

Dude, seriously. Theyve already said, in almost every corner, that the differences between the two are negligable. The only reason the PS3 may play SLIGHTLY better, is because of the harddrive install, but I would hardly call it (as you so overexaggeratingly put it) "superior". Your comment reeks of ignorant fanboyism. Give me Xbox's online and DLC anyday.

Since this is the gamerzone Ill refrain from personal insults, but you better believe they would have been very very mean.

Edit: If youre a Sonytroll and you know it, disagree.

[sonarus]

lol if you are a sony troll and you know it stomp your feet....

DLC for 360 is great and all but i honestly can't use that to base my decision for purchasing until i know what it is. Extra missions are great but if GTA4 is really as good as they say it is, i would probably be better off just restarting the game than paying for some extra missions

[Ureval]

IGN just did a really good podcast about GTA, and talked about what the DLC might be. Its pure speculation but one of the guys brought up a really intriguing possibility. He suggested Rockstar focus their efforts on creating the next GTA for what console generation comes out next, and any future current console efforts be based off of the GTA4 game. IE, instead of future DLC just being new gametypes, why not create completely new cities, and distribute them similar to the same way Tomb Raider Anniversary was distributed as an expansion of Legend.

Future DLC could be completely new cities and storylines, as a best case scenario. Theres no way of telling for sure, but THAT would be enough reason to own the 360. Hell, if I had the PS3 version and the DLC was impressive enough, who know? we might see a bunch of people trading in their PS3 version just to be able to get the 360 DLC.

[justgamez]

be reasonable. Whole cites for 50 million dollars? First it's 2 DLCs for 10 hours of additional gameplay each and now it's whole cities. WOW!

[sonarus]

Yes but rockstar said it was extra missions that would expand on the adventures in the GTA4 world. While it is a good idea, you have to think about it this way. Making a new city is like making a new game, you have to think of data size...While its an interesting concept, last time i checked MSoft still had a file size limit on DLC.

Rockstar should really be the ones hyping it but they have dropped so many clues that it is extra missions but people just want to keep speculating about whole new cities. I actually think the DLC will be decent but not that great because if it was, MSoft would have announced it since they have been talking about it so much.

I simply cannot base my GTA4 purchase base on unknown missions. If you are expecting whole new cities you will be greatly dissapointed

[solar]

was that dood from Kotaku also the jiggalo guy in Duece Bigalow Male Jiggalo? :P

some good points. but nothing i havent already read or heard.

[TheExecutive]

I cannot believe, and i have said this multiple times, that people still believe that the 50 million dollars went straight for DLC.

here is my scenario:

R* went to Sony and explained that they need a money comittment from Sony to keep it exclusive to Sony. Sony offered them a number. MS just came up with a much bigger number and they demanded some DLC for it. The 50 million was used primarily to take exclusivity away from Sony. There is no way MS is dumb enough to give 50 million for some DLC 6 months after the release of the game.

[empathe]

Except for the fact that the engine was built on the 360 and the 50 million happened during development of GTA4, not before.

[Proxy]

I think if MS had a trick up their sleeve worth 50 million they would come out and impress a little more. I would expect "Do you want 2 whole new cities and more cars and weapons to play with? Buy the 360 version! Updating coming this fall!" Instead were getting, "Buy 360 version, we have 'something' coming, 'sometime' in the future."

360 fans boast of undefined DLC. PS3 fans boast of insignificant graphical differences. Make your choice; and remember, there is no wrong choice when it comes to GTA IV.

[rawd]

Let me take a WILD guess and vote that Sessler says GTA4 is superior on Xbox360. He's so far up Microsofts hoop, he doesn't know how to find his way out.

and PS. you know he wanks to Morgan's pics every night.

[Chubear]

I find him repulsive.

[RAF-TECH]

- GOTY candidate
- Already getting 10's reviews
- Multiplatform
- One of the biggest games of nex-gen

and people still have the balls to say that DLC is a waste?
"it's not gonna be needed because of other games"???

freakin whack..
DLC will be enhancing this GOTY candidate.
So please... don't diss the DLC....

[pegger24]

People act like the DLC will be played on an intellivision or atari, it will kick f'n ass like most of what Rockstar does. But it doesn't have to be great, the core game is more than likely all most casual GTA players will ever need, I for one love having the option

[Jinxstar]

Well thats the thing man... People just seem to not get GTA for the missions. they get it for everything else... Missions are fun but yeah... Thye are right. It is a huge GOTY candidate but bigger then Fable? Gears 2? R2? It all depends on the players. I am super super stoked for GTA but yeah...

[PSMonster21]

Exactly, I haven't finished any of the GTA games (even the psp ones). I've put plenty of hours into them but never felt like actually finishing the game. Sure the DLC will be great for people who get into the story and all and want more, but the majority of people who buy this game won't care.

[MikeGdaGod]

everyone's talking about the dlc for the 360.

what about the dlc for the PS3? it might be just as good as the dlc for 360, just different.

[Cryptech]

Am I the only one who doesn't like the saying "Downloadable Content". DLC, to me, implies that its free. It should be called pay-to-play content. Am I wrong? To pitch it so much in the "console choice discussion" just implies that since you have an XBOX 360 you are also getting this DLC, but they never talk about the "DLC" costing you more money. What do you guys think?

[Muddyalcapones]

"I'm Adam Sessler! The Xbox360 gives me a megaboner! I <3 Microsoft..."

...icky

xplay hasn't been any good for the last few years.

[Ureval]

"Im Muddyalcapones, I post fanboy garbage in the Gamerzone, because I think my opinion matters."

[Bnet343]

I don't understand why PS3 fanboys think everyone is against the PS3 when they favor the 360 in something or give a bad review to a PS3 game.

[PSMonster21]

Xplay IS garbage. They ARE 360 fanboys. They DON'T know what they are talking about. I laugh at anyone who watches these fools pretend to know anything about games. Pathetic excuse for a video game show.

[Jinxstar]

Well thats the thing man. With the Mr.Sark always doing the Halo tourney's and such... PS3 gets little love on Xplay. I am just waiting for them to get LBP and flip out with happiness.

[DarkSniper]

It's clearly obvious that the PLAYSTATION® 3 version of GTA IV is superior in all aspects which will result in superior sales. Dark Sniper knows which version he's buying.

$niper

[Ureval]

Unlike some people, He knows a good thing when he sees it.

[wangdiddy82]

at the guy with the mullet.. lol.. hahahaha.. that made my day..

[Ureval]

Dark Sniper is full of it.
Dark Sniper only has 3 bubbles which means no one cares what Dark Sniper says.
Dark Sniper is living in a dark hole of denial, because Dark Sniper thinks that PS3 will outsell 360, even though most people will buy it because of 360's superior online.
Dark Sniper says that the PS3 version is superior in ALL ASPECTS, despite the fact that people who have already played the game have said that the differences arent that big.
But if Dark Sniper wants to get it on PS3 thats fine, because then Dark Sniper will be playing all by himself in the lonely world of PS3 online, and no one will have to hear Dark Snipers comments.

[PSMonster21]

Well he can play with me because you would have to be crazy to buy the 360 version. Sh!t, you would have to be crazy to buy a 360.

[599 US Dollars]

Looks incredible (on 360, obviously). Enjoy your 5 gig installs and no one on PSN or with headsets, fanboys.

[PSMonster21]

You obviously don't own a ps3 nor have you played any ps3 games online. I do own a ps3 and their are many people who talk on psn, whether it be on warhawk, resistance, or cod4. So stop commenting on sh!t you know nothing about and crawl right back into your hole.

[aiphanes]

Sales of the PS3 are already up...but will go through the roof when this game is released...Halo 3 did not make xbox 360 sales go through the roof...the PS3 still outsold it in 2007...and the PS3 will definately outsale the xbox 360 in 2008..

GTA4 and MGS4 will cement the PS3 king of consoles...except for the wii...its in the casual space...

PS Home will take out the wii's thunder this fall.

[Ureval]

Its funny, IGNs Xbox team is more optimistic about Home then its PS3 team. I dont think Home is going to be the PS3 savior you all think it is. Its been over a year since it was announced and it still wont release until next year at the earliest.

[KingME]

haha...that would make it queen of consoles. Since you are not including the wii. Perhaps you stop hyping until it has actually proven itself.

[madness]

1:02 - scrubs
1:05 - building lights

etc
etc

[power of Green]

I was wondering why PS3 fanboys were getting upset posting PS3 titles talking about 360 doom in this thread. lol

[IIamback]

Ngai looks like idiot with that fake smile when he is not talking. And his had is HUGE, his hair style like from 70s.

[whoelse]

What beats me is that if this DLC so good then why haven't they told us what it actually is. I think maybe Microsoft are making a big deal out of something which wont actually be that big in terms of extra gameplay and don't want to tell anyone what it actually is in case people will decide its not worth it.

[RAF-TECH]

It's almost like price protection.

Rockstar knows that GTA 3 on sony brand made a big impact. with that in mind... it would be foolish to unveil the DLC so fast because it would lose some of it's customers already(specifically sony base).
picture it this way...

Why do you think MS is really pushing out GTAIV more than sony?
could it be that they have a real good reason and that part of the deal with rockstar is to keep it hush hush, Just to keep GTA saved on both consoles?

think about it man.... oh yeah... and it's 50 million. money talks

[Domer25]

All aspects except online and screen res. 720p confirmed xbox360 vs 630p confirmed on ps3. oops.

[digger18]

confirmed by who, some forum guy? I will wait until Rockstar confirms this.

[PSMonster21]

Link? Proof? I didn't think so.

[reccodog]

Nuf said.

[Boink]

I think a lot of people will buy the 360 version specifically because of the content, but most of those people are hardcore gamers who already have their console/consoles.

But I also think that it will help move more ps3's as many people are waiting for this game to upgrade their ps2's.

[Angelitos]

Be Reasonable, they were talking about the graphics from a video. Which, is stupid, cause, you can only compare games, in real life, with 2 different hdtvs. 1 the PS3 the other 360.

Everything else, is PS3 superior.

[power of Green]

I wonder if this game wins GOTY will it be the Xbox 360 version that wins it?, will the exclusive DLC win it for the 360 sence the content will be here in a few months or will they add PS3 in there for good messure or to not go down in flames because of loyal rabids is more like it.

Don't care are about pop-ins MSFT is good at dealing with them with patches games such as GOW and PGR4 are examples.

[PSMonster21]

Keep on dreaming. It must be nice to live in your own delusional world.

[MainEventX]

PS3 is the only true next-gen system the Wii and 360 shouldn't even be considered next-gen consoles. First off the Wii and 360 still use an old format called DVD which only holds 4.7 gbs of data or 9gb on dual layer disc, the PS3 uses Blu-ray which holds 25gb of data or 50gb on dual layer disc. The Wii has no hdmi port which is necessary for the future while the 360 has an hdmi port 1.2 and the PS3 has an hdmi port that supports 1.3a. The differences first off 1.2 supports 16.7 million colors while 1.3a supports over 1 billion colors. 1.2 cant use Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio and it cant support 7.1 surround sound, while on the other hand hdmi 1.3a supports all that plus more. hdmi 1.2 can only support 1920x1080p60fps maxed out while 1.3a supports 2560x1600p60fps maxed out. An added bonus about 1.3a also supports x.y.Color and Deep Color which 1.2 dosent. 1.3a also has a way higher transfer rate and bit rate compared to 1.2. Also the 360 has 3 core processors which is old news considering Intel makes Quad Core Processors while the PS3 has the revoluntionary Cell processor which has 8 and the Wii has a weak processor we dont even nedd to talk about.You cant even upgrade the 360 HD unless u pay for an overpriced 120 piece of crap HD on th PS3 u can upgrade your HD limitleesly. The 360 or the Wii doesnt even have an HD movie playback drive the PS3 does. The PS3 is built stronger than both the Wii and 360 it can handle more heat and cold and still not break down. Also the PS3 firmware constantly upgrades the system and by far has the most multimedia compatibilities compared to the Wii and 360. The RSX GPU can handle DirectX 10 level details and graphics the 360 GPU can't. The PS3 is truly the only system worthy of being called next gen and is the most future proof console that ever existed.

[power of Green]

I wonder if anybody is ever going to read this copy and pasted Bullshit you've been posting in every thread.

What if the GTA 4 expansion's end up better than either retail copy due to no PS3 in mind, more time and being on the 360 HDD?, will you stop posting that if we see something at E3?. Stop it....

[MainEventX]

I just spread the truth about a real next gen console so people dont buy a machine that is last gen hardware and being lied that it is next gen stuff like the 360

[JokesOnYou]

Still hating on DLC, wow why can't people just buy whatever version that floats your boat and be satisfied. All the spin is just transparent, Rockstar called it episodic content but whatever the DLC is, it IS MORE content for a great game, and that is always welcomed. If I only owned a ps3, its not enough that I would go out and buy a 360 for but that doesn't make it any less important to diehard GTA fans,(I'm not, but who knows after tommorrow) and although there will be other great games that will pull me away from this game down the road; who never plays their favorite games even after they have brought other great games?, especially when you get new content from the devs? Why won't I care by then? oh, because other dev's will release other games?What is there some kind of law against playing the new GTA4 DLC after I just finished a round of Gears2? lmfao

JOY

[funkysolo]

If you don't have a next gen console which version do you buy, You buy the PS3 because let's hmmmmmm DLC or The biggest AAA titles coming out this holiday season...

[BigKev45]

The X360 version is the one to get, you know this. Sony still needs in-game XMB. Xbox Live FTW!

[PSMonster21]

Really? I thought it was the ps3 one. Thats the one I'm getting. Thats the one that runs better. Thats the one with less load times.

[sovietsoldier]

we should all be happy that the game was not delayed again!

[BigKev45]

True, don. Tell them nappy headed h**s.

[jinn]

definitely for 360

[Clinton514]

Those opinions were all fair enough. And I'm glad Adam kept his trap shut.

[BigPimpJayQc]

11.5 million XB360 in North America
vs
4.65 million PS3 in North America

And there's no way 10 million more people will buy a PS3 tomorrow! And we're not even talking about DLC which will come out on PS3 either way!

Stop asking yourselves who's going to win the GTA Battle. 'nuff said! See you at the charts next week, fanboys will cry...