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Sony at E3 2014: Can it hold its lead?

The PS4 has outsold the Xbox One, but Sony must remain on the offensive to stay on top. Here's a look at how it might do that.

NewMonday3610d ago

with XBone exclusives going muti-platform I don't see the PS4 getting bothered.

LOGICWINS3610d ago

I think MS should've priced the XB1 including Kinect at $399. It wouldve given them a fighting chance. I liked the the Aaron Paul commercial, especially the fact that it played during an awesome episode of Gang Related.

But none of the stuff Aaron did in the commercial can be done without Kinect. Idk why MS insists on confusing people.

ZodTheRipper3610d ago

In Germany Xbox + Kinect + Titanfall is at 399€ already
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Micr...

But it would've been very desperate from Microsoft to cut the price so much a few months after launch. Sony has it in their own hands right now, if they bring some killer exclusives there is now way they will lose their lead. If they don't and Microsoft brings them it could shift the tides... next week will definately change lots of opinions.

JoGam3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

I honestly can't wait for E3 to be over. So tired of all these articles. Who's going to win E3? What this company needs to do to win E3. Will this be shown at E3? I love E3 but the articles these so call journalist write are getting tired. Lets be real.....part of the problem with this console war rubbish is the people who write these articles.

GribbleGrunger3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

I agree. There were some retailers in the UK selling the PS4 for as little as £325 so that suggests to me Sony have quite a lot of lee way in terms of pricing. No retailer is going to sell a product at a loss.

JBSleek3610d ago

That is irrelevant. You are only referring to one game Dead Rising 3 which indeed did go multiplatform but after the launch window so they already got the sales they would.

Also does this also account for PS4 games that are on PC and PS4 games that also go on Vita.

psforward3610d ago

What about Plants vs Zombies:Garden Warfare?

WickedLester3610d ago

...and Titanfall. And Plants VS Zombies. And you just wait, Sunset Overdrive will wind up on PS4 somewhere down the road.

azure19903610d ago

Dead Rising 3 is only going to PC. Plants vs Zombies is the only one going to PC. Jesus NewMonday how the fuck do you have that many bubbles?

welly3003610d ago

Plants vs zom is going multi

KazHirai3610d ago

Honestly microsoft is not going to win this one. The PS4 is going to have the superior multiplats for the rest of the generation, and has always had a very strong stable of exclusive studios. Im sure that the xbox can give some worthy competition in the US but nowhere else.

Silly gameAr3610d ago

@JoGam
I agree. I've never seen an E3 hyped this hard by the media. It's officially overhyped, like the whole gen depends on this one E3 and only this E3, and it's taking all the fun out of it.

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DigitalRaptor3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

Microsoft is never outpacing Sony when it comes to sales.

PS3 launched a year after the X360. The 360 gained 8 million sales in the space that PS3 wasn't on the market. The PS3 sold more than the 360 globally practically every single year, despite the fact that PS3 had tons of negativity on its side:

- $600
- bare bones online network
- media bias and doom and gloom
- inferior multiplats
- supposedly "no games"
- harder to develop for
- terrible marketing

Not only that, it caught up an 8 million lead, and had both consoles released at the same time, PS3 would be 11 million units ahead globally.

Both consoles have released at the same time now, with PS4 having NONE of the weaknesses of last-gen's PS3. They released at the same time and PS3 is already 3.5-4 million units ahead only 7 months in.

The gap is widening. The Xbone would have to sell 50k more than PS4 every week for over 60 consecutive weeks, and THAT simply isn't happening. MAYBE in North America in a long time, but globally... you'd have to be an absolute dunce to think that's going to happen. It's already out in its strongest markets and PS4 is beating it without having released its big guns.

Once the first-party PS4 lineup gets rolling, do you really think Xbone is catching up? I mean seriously? PlayStation is simply a stronger global brand than Xbox, and it isn't changing anytime soon.

The only thing Sony needs to do, is what they've always done and concentrated on providing great games and a diverse lineup.

Jaqen_Hghar3610d ago

that pretty much says it all!

MasterCornholio3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

If rumors are true then I dont see the 4 million gap closing anytime soon. Because for that to happen the Xbox One has to outsell the PS4 by a massive amount and the console is already selling 100k a week.

People have to accept this and just enjoy their consoles. Just because the PS4 has a massive lead on the Xbox One doesn't mean that 3rd parties will abandon it.

JBSleek3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

I don't think you should look at past success as being what will happen in the future.

"It's a matter of common sense."

There is no "common sense" when trying to predict which console will outsell which when it has only been seven months. You have five to seven more years of announcements and things to see who will win. Also you didn't really showcase any advantages.

You pointed out first parties which is all subjective on who has the best ones. I think Nintendo first parties are the best but doesn't mean it correlates to sales. It's all subjective.

I think acting like Sony winning this generation so quickly as fact is silly. We got much more time. Not saying Sony won't win because I think they will but it's too soon to tell.

HeWhoWalks3610d ago

If he were doing that, he could have easily brought up the PS2 vs Xbox. No, in this situation, he's made excellent points - if an Xbox with everything going for it couldn't be Sony's worst selling home machine, how will the X1 top the PS4 with ALL of those advantages missing?

It's a matter of common sense.

AngelicIceDiamond3610d ago

@JBSleek agreed.

I think Raptors post is a very defensive post. I'm not sure why he's that defensive in the first place.

It seems like he's seriously assuring himself that PS already Won despite both being very young consoles.

HeWhoWalks3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

No denying that both consoles are young, but Digital's points aren't negated because of that. The PS4 is already outselling the X1, and with historical trends pointing to Sony maintaining solid leads in, at least, nearly all of EU + JP, it then goes without saying that the trend will continue (thus, the "common sense" bit).

It's as I said, they won there with higher price points and and a, nearly, unshakable stigma (PS3). With the PS4 having none of those issues, it would take something drastic, and I do mean DRASTIC, to happen for a tide shift. I believe that's what Digital was getting at.

SuperBlunt3610d ago

I praise you, sadly this wont get through to them. Its not even about sony dominating to me, its moreso their ignorance to the obvious truth that bugs me

dale_denton3610d ago

this needs to be posted on yahoo front page for the bots to see

AngelicIceDiamond3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

@Raptor "The only thing Sony needs to do, is what they've always done and concentrated on providing great games and a diverse lineup."

You are right here but at the same time MS won't just sit around and let Sony release all their games. MS also isn't gonna let Sony steel all the glory as well.

I hope you realize MS is also competing just as hard overall as well?

I mean that's what competing I think it won't be as easy as your making it sound.

"Once the first-party PS4 lineup gets rolling, do you really think Xbone is catching up?"

Sony's first party line up is some of the best but still subjective.

Hope you didn't forget about MS first party as well plus Phil will be investing more in 1st party. Its tug of war man both companies will be competing harder and we the gamers are the ones that win. But like I said its subjective its not written anywhere of either platform exclusive games being better than the other.

E3 is practically here.

E3 Team Xbox.

eferreira3610d ago

I was really hating MS for a long time even though I got an xbone. But what Phil is doing makes me have faith in the company. Hes a good dude and very easy to relate to like the other 2 from Nintendo and Sony.

MRMagoo1233610d ago

I think you should read the whole thing again, Sony and playstation are just the more popular gaming brand, no matter how many people try to say its an even playing field, they started in the lead for a reason and I can bet they will keep and increase the lead as time goes on.

eferreira3610d ago

People seem to forget that the 360 launched a year ahead of the ps3 ad 1.5 years in Europe.

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breakpad3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

it depends fro the games ..if they show again games like God OF WAR no they cannot hold their first place (enough already with these sequels from semi successfull serie infamous , uncharted etcetc) ... if they start have new Exclusives Ip specially from Japan like SOuls series and buy some old Ips like Crash Bandicoot then yes they will hold their place

HeWhoWalks3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

Uncharted = semi successful? Your credibility was destroyed right there, especially considering Uncharted and God of War are EXACTLY the franchises that would push PS4 hardware.

Never mind the irony of the rest of your post - Crash Bandicoot (also not Sony's) would be a sequel, and probably not exclusive. The Souls "series" implies sequel. You make no sense at all.

breakpad3610d ago

man whatever you say i will say this -> PS3 nothing else.... PS3 barely survived CrapBOX 360 competition and except some Japanese franchises (MGS4 , Demon SOULS , Dragons Dogma, etcetc)has nothing to remember....because GOd of WAr and Infamous were exclusives and promoted so much doesnt meant they were great games ..just mediocre

ramiuk13610d ago

god of war and uncharted = semi succesful???
wow note added to never even bother reading something you type again.
such a moronic comment u made there and have zero credabilty in future

ISHU3610d ago

LOL @Gamepard

Looks like we have a troll!!
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/mAKc...

kenshiro1003610d ago

I suggest you do some actual research before talking.

metatronx3610d ago

Just one question, have u played those games before u open ur big mouth and bash about those games. Talking about sequences, Halo, Forza, Gears of war, ring a bell?

HeWhoWalks3610d ago

As I said, no credibility whatsoever. When you have something constructive, and more bubbles, come back to this again.

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SixtyNine3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

Sony has enjoyed its advantages over the months since release such as, lower price point and availability in more countries than its competitor. E3 combined with their fall lineup will play a major role in sustaining the benefits of their advantages. You can only thrive off your brand name for so long.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers15h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos40m ago(Edited 39m ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken2h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g12h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing11h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H911h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola8h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66910h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle10h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 3h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 3h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola22h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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