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PS4 Version of MGS: Ground Zeroes uses Atmosphere Simulation for the Sky

Hideo Kojima revealed that the PS4 version of MGS Ground Zeroes is receiving a special feature.

WorldGamer3720d ago

I wonder why this couldn't be done on the X1. Serious question, wouldn't sky simulation be perfect for Clout Computing? Just seems strange that this would be omitted from the X1 version along with the lower resolution.

I'm interested in hearing any thoughts as to how/why this could happen.

MasterCornholio3720d ago

Kojima is a lazy developer who refuses to program with Xbox Live Compute.

-sarcasm-

Riderz13373720d ago

Theres actually some people on Neogaf saying Kojima is lazy and doesn't take advantage of the Xbox One's full power...

I'm just sitting here laughing at them thinking to my self..."What power?"

thereapersson3720d ago

For once I agree that the cloud could actually benefit the XOne version of the game. We can do physics simulations and other things via the cloud, and we can also simulate protein folding and genetic research using cloud computing. So weather simulation should be something that I think could be done on the XOne version.

Eonjay3720d ago

The thing with using the cloud for computation is that you have to dedicate yourself to making the game online only. If someone disconnect from the internet, you don't want them to have a different visual experience. And why should he have to set up server just to calculate some clouds... that is dumb. The PS4 is doing it all in-house. Look if you plug the PS4 into the HDMI in port on the Xbox One, you can get the same experience.

abzdine3720d ago (Edited 3720d ago )

Kojima using PS4 power to simulate clouds dynamics :D

b...but...we have the powah of da clawwd on xbox one!!

badz1493719d ago

kinda ironic that Kojima doesn't use the cloud to simulate actual clouds! LOL

johndoe112113719d ago

@Eonjay

Spot on chap. Too many people just don't grasp what the implication of a cloud based game would be. That means you won't be able to play it properly should you not be connected online. That is only acceptable if you're playing a online only game like titanfall or a mmorpg or something like that.

No single player game should have to rely on the cloud to operate properly. The day we start accepting games like that is the day we inch ever so closer to that "vision" that microsoft had when the original xbox one was revealed.

Cloud computation has it's place, but not in sp games. And until the day that the internet service providers around the world can provide a more stable and robust internet service to most of the public, it probably shouldn't be used in multiplayer games either, or at least in a very very small scale.

hkgamer3719d ago

well they couod have given that as an option. how much does oublishers need to pay to use azure servers? i always imagined ms to fork that bill for some odd reasn.

i dont think you can plug ps4 into xbone yet because of the hdcp thing. maybe later you can though.

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gameslayer24113720d ago

I asked a similar question in another article. Why is the dynamic weather limited only to one of the next gen consoles? I can understand the lack thereof in last gen but even the slight difference in power between them surely the dynamic weather should be achievable on both.

Eonjay3720d ago (Edited 3719d ago )

The answer may go back to EsRam. Remember the more you want to be calculate in each frame, the more memory you need in order to do that. And you want the simulation to run at 60FPS. A real time weather simulation may have not fit into the confines of ESRam. I am interested to see if he give an explanation. @720P It is curious, but I don't know how many render targets he stores in the ESRam and other things like that.

Deadpoolio3719d ago

It's really that hard to figure out? The 720p is underpowered and couldn't handle dynamic anything. They can't use da cloud because you have to keep the experience THE SAME for everyone and the first person who doesn't connect online would want to start a class action or cry about how their MGS experience was ruined by not being connected online...The PS4 on the other hand has more than enough power to do so without having to be connected to anything...Plain and simple

gameslayer24113719d ago

Thanks eonjay I wasn't entirely sure it just really surprised me after jumping from my one to ps4 I rarely noticed major differences but this dynamic weather is something that should be a major part of the game especially a stealth based game I imagine that cloud cover, wind, rain, appearing out of nowhere unexpectedly would add an extra level of realism as well as a different gameplay experience all together.

mmj3719d ago (Edited 3719d ago )

Sony have had AMD customise the PS4 GPU to include a lot of extra compute capability, much more than the PC equivalent GPU it is based on.

This is the sort of thing cloud computing could be used for as it doesn't matter about latency, but does anyone really think Microsoft are going to want their network being clogged up with simulated skies and other things they can't charge for?

Soapboxhero3720d ago (Edited 3720d ago )

Quite frankly surprised, had xo been 900p60 and ps4 1080p60 maybe they might have needed to trim some things to maintain frame rate but I find it a bit strange that running at 720 on xo that something like that would be cut unless for example the tech was provided by sony and thus only the ps4 is allowed to benefit. We'll see.

Kiwi663720d ago

maybe because he prefers playstation as thats the home of metal gear

KonsoruMasuta3719d ago (Edited 3719d ago )

Actually, Metal Gear was born on the MSX.

On another note: Who here knows what MSX actually stood for? Lol I bet a lot of heads would explode if people actually found out what the M in MSX means.

Ninver3719d ago

I think he was referring to the Solid series. But yes you are right about Metal Gear first being associated with the msx.

GuruMeditation3719d ago

Yes, the Microsoft connection is pretty well known, as is the fact that Sony actually contributed a great deal to MSX development as well as manufacturing MSX-compatible micros. It was a really cool Microcomputer, with a rich heritage.

hkgamer3719d ago

you mean what ms stands for in msx not just the m :P

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mkis0074h ago

Such a good game to me. Crazy how different peoples opinions can get.

Crows904h ago(Edited 4h ago)

For me it wasn't that surprising. There was some bad press before. There's also the matter and element of a person's disposition when trying out a certain game. Sometimes you're just not really into the type of game that you're playing so you put it down because you don't like it. Not necessarily because it's a bad game but because you're just not up for something like this. Reviewers have a tough because no matter what they feel like playing they've got to play what's releasing.

I have many times gone back to games that I put down only to thoroughly enjoy them the second time around because either there wasn't another exciting game coming out around the same time or I just had no other games to play and haven't played that type of game in a while. I'm not the type of person that can just play a souls game through all this iterations one after the other without getting burnt out on the formula.

In my opinion this game was great from the start. Some bugs here and there but nothing worse than the most AAA releases during the same time after and before. All I did was wait one week and I had a phenomenal time with the game. No other zombie survival game comes close to how I thoroughly enjoyed this one

-Foxtrot3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Yeah I thought it was pretty decent, it had its flaws but for their first big console single player open world game it's a solid 8/10.

I have never seen an AAA "zombie" game feature as many enemies as the horde sections did, you really had to think about your surroundings and plan carefully.

I feel journalists had an issue with this game from the moment it was announced, they really didn't like the Biker characters and the overall Biker gang theme. If they were anything else I feel it would have had a better chance or at least they'd overlook some of the flaws like they do for certain other open world games. They don't mind waiting weeks or months for a patch knowing its coming but a game that has it Day 1 it's suddenly a big no no? Yeah this was one of those moments that showed you how they cherry pick who to suddenly decide to go harsh on when they want to.

mkis0072h ago

Ill never forget the reviewer who tried to claim the "ride me like you ride your bike" line was anything but a joke...they (sarah and deacon) explicitly call it a joke and the reviewer still misinformed the reader about it as if it was a literal thing.

Michiel19892h ago

the score on metacritic is 71 from journos, its 9 points lower than your review so stop making stuff up. They didn't hate it from the start, they on average just liked it slightly less than you.

-Foxtrot2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@Michiel1989

I'm not making anything up, they held a grudge against it and made stuff up themselves like mkis007 has just pointed out. That 71 on Metacritic is why it didn't get a sequel.

Anyway how can I make anything up when I didn't even mention metacritic in my original post?

Leeroyw4h ago

Second act of that game far surpassed the first. Which is why people felt it didn't live up to the hype of the trailers. Personally I loved it. But it was a slog to get your bike and weapons up to skill.

Inverno4h ago

Was gonna post a brick wall of text but I'll keep it short. Pardon my French but f**k the media for the hate they gave this game. If you have a PC to play it on you can get it as low as 10 bucks, and if you have a PS then it's a no brainer. Totally worth a play.

phatak3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I don't even comment here often but had to for this game, I still stand by my opinion that this was one of the top 10 games of the ps4 generation, I preferred days gone over god of war, horizon and last of us 2, the launch version was definitely piss poor and that messed up the reviews for this game, honestly some games deserve a re-review or post patch review as the metacritic score stays forever but the reality is its not even the same game anymore, the ps5 patch is amazing and the pc version which I play on nowadays is one of the best looking games ever, complete shame that we wont get a sequel, god of war got one, horizon got one, last of us got one, spider man got one,ghosts of tshushima about to get one but this game wont get one, sucks to be honest.

Ps3/360 era had some hidden underated games for me it was shadows of the damned, alice madness returns that deserved more sales and a sequel/ higher scores, and similarly for the ps4 era it was days gone, and dying light 1 that deserved much more love, dying light atleast got a sequel, everyone needs to play this game once and judge for themselves, for me its officially the most underrated game of the ps4 era, go play it if you haven't.

andy853h ago

Awesome game. Just bought it for my laptop last week

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