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Xbox One Resolutiongate: Call of Duty: Ghosts dev Infinity Ward responds

Call of Duty: Ghosts has found itself in the firing line of the next-gen console power war. With Infinity Ward's COD: Ghosts a next-gen launch title, the news that the PlayStation 4 version runs at 1080p resolution native, whereas the Xbox One version runs at 720p native upscaled to 1080p, was seen as a huge blow to Microsoft. This from a game series that over the course of the current-generation has become synonymous with Xbox.

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allformats3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

In essence he's saying PS4 is more powerful, easier to developer for, and the little time of releasing a game on so many platforms, they simply couldn't get more out of the difficult architect of the Xbox One -- most notably the ESRAM bottlenecks, to make it run at a higher resolution.

Question is, if a developer like Infinity Ward, a studio I'm sure received dev kits way before other studios because of Call of Duty, cannot get COD: Ghosts at 1080p on Xbox One but easily gets it on PS4, the future really looks bleak for Microsoft's new console.

And one more thing, Rubin said they managed to get the game running 1080p on Xbox One, but they "couldn't get the frame rate in the neighbourhood we wanted it to be."

This is damning.

PFFT3838d ago

In essence he didnt say that. Stop wishing he did.

Gazondaily3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

Its interesting to note that the decision to make the X1 version 720 was "a late decision, too. That call wasn't made until a month ago."

Also, it does seem that 1080p was possible on the X1:

"It's very possible we can get it to native 1080p. I mean I've seen it working at 1080p native. It's just we couldn't get the frame rate in the neighbourhood we wanted it to be."

But ultimately, it isn't in 1080p and that's the problem. The X1 and PS4 have swapped roles from their predecessors now; now the former console is more difficult to develop for.

However, the problem here is that, unlike the last gen, there is a difference in power, and that favours the easier to develop for console, the PS4. So whilst developers finally get accustomed to the X1 architecture, be it ESRAM or whatever the 'problem' is, development on the PS4 will also improve. I did not expect such a big difference early on in the game between the two consoles but expect that gap to continue to widen as time goes on.

For me, this 'resolution fiasco' has already set a precedent. Enough is enough I think. The standard has been set and the proof is in the pudding. If you want the superior version of a multiplat game in terms of tech, the PS4 version will be the one to go for, (although I predict some anomalies to creep up in the future).

It's going to be an interesting generation this one, that's for sure.

GentlemenRUs3838d ago

The Truth is a beach isn't it :P

JokesOnYou3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

Mark Rubin: "It's very possible we can get it to native 1080p. I mean I've seen it working at 1080p native. It's just we couldn't get the frame rate in the neighbourhood we wanted it to be.

And it wasn't a lack of effort. It wasn't that it was like last minute. We had the theoretical hardware for a long time. That's the thing you get pretty quickly and that doesn't change dramatically. It was more about resource allocation. The resource allocation is different on the consoles."

"As an obvious analogy - and if people are not sure about this it's pretty simple - look at Call of Duty 2 versus COD 4. It was a massive leap forward in graphics, and that's just because it takes time to get through this."

-Just as I thought they needed more time as the X1 was still changing up until a month ago. Still what pisses me off if its more about quality why not delay the X1 version and just be honest and say due to getting final specs, dev tools, sdk's with new allocations late, whatever just be transparent and folks will understand a delay of the X1 version a bit after launch to get things optimized (or have no choice), but lets not be naive we know exactly why that didnt happen this is Activisions cash cow its all about getting the most sales on all the platforms for the holiday window.

svoulis3838d ago

Actually PFFT. ITs pretty much exactly what he said. Even admitting they had the XO hardware for a while. It doesn't matter though because people should get what they want, and play where they'll play.

It's just all getting old at this point. At first it was interesting, now that we know exactly whats going on. People just need to accept it, let it go and move on.

The only thing that bugs me...is that I have to pay more for a console that is less powerful then the competitor. This could say a lot for the long run.

Either way PS4 and XO will be in my living room by march.

Army_of_Darkness3838d ago

@jokesonyou

Your right bro, Activision should have taken more time on the xbone version because if they did I'm sure that they would have achieved 900p like that "exclusive" ryse game;-)

Dacapn3838d ago

@JokesOnYou

It's funny because a few days ago you were raging saying you wouldn't buy this because they half-assed the X1 version.

Fast forwared to today:

Just as I thought they needed more time as the X1 was still changing up until a month ago...

I can't take you seriously.

P0werVR3838d ago

"It's very possible we can get it to native 1080p"

So factors due to time constraints, recently receiving new SDKs, early difficulty for Xbox One and FIVE platforms.

Makes a lot of sense now. Future games won't be an issue and will make up for it real quick. Compared to some assumptions that this will be the "theme" of next gen between both consoles.

Sayai jin3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

"Bleak".

I disagree. Games on consoles get better as far as game play and graphics over their lifespan. It is no secret that the XB1 is harder to develop and for and IMO MS should have kept the ease of dev like they had with the 360. Are devs to lazy because they are not yet optimizing the XB1 architecture, no. It takes time. A very common narrative this gen was that devs were lazy early on because they could not optimize the PS3's cell. It took time, but was worth it.

Maddens Raiders3838d ago

..."But if we just turn this upside down and remove that and maybe tighten this...there...oh bums Sony have now jumped forward as well. Once you are playing catch up it's hard to make ground. Bad decisions right at the start are hurting already."

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

NewMonday3838d ago

Mark Rubin: "There's stuff in the console's OS that interacts with the game. So, for instance, voice chat is often supported by the hardware manufacturer rather than the software, and you're just using their channel. <<When that stuff is changing>> - because they're developing it on their side - and the resources they're using are changing"

this confirms the reported XboxLive problems on the XB1..

"short story is that Xbox Live and the OS, especially in functions that involve XBL, are a complete fucking mess. One source says we aren’t talking weeks until it works correctly but months..The system OS and network integration was written by a group of people who do not play games. They don’t understand why things were set up in the ways they were designed by J Allard back in ’05..Let me get into some technical detail regarding it – on 360, the OS handles all of the party and chat functionality. All you do is hook up the XBL VOiP OS API into your game, and it does most of the work for you..However, this system is entirely different on Xbox One..In essence, it is almost EXACTLY how it was on the PS3, and it is in those API “handshakes” that is breaking the online experience"

http://doddscientifics.com/...

Ezz20133838d ago

@Septic

i agree with you on every word

SilentNegotiator3838d ago

@JOY
"Still what pisses me off if its more about quality why not delay the X1 version"

If you can't think of at least 3 reasons, you aren't very in tune with this industry.

1) Marketing would be fragmented.
2) Ghosts won't likely be the hottest new thing in Q1 2014...time will diminish appeal and cause the Xbox sales to be WAY lower than they would have been.
3) They would have to be insane to cross Microsoft, spender of 100s of millions on timed exclusive DLC, by releasing one of the hottest games of the year late on the Xbox.
4) It would waste time/resources otherwise devoted to creating the next game. It's not their job to spend a bunch of extra time circumventing bottlenecks. Sony learned their lesson but apparently MS did not learn from others' mistakes.

Ghosts isn't the only 720p game on Xbox One. We had racers at almost 1080p60fps LAST generation, so Forza being 1080p60fps really isn't very impressive. If you're going to pretend that every game that isn't at 1080p on Xbox One was just lazily done, you aren't going to think very highly of many 8th gen games.

Saigon3838d ago

So to me it sounds like they have one or the other while in development so far. Either 1080p and lower frame rate or higher frame rate and lower resolution.

I am sure they will figure this out but the biggest question is how long.

gaffyh3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

So seems like it wasn't powerful enough to do 1080 at 60fps, in the time they had, so they had to drop the resolution to get the framerate. Basically confirms that the PS4 is easier to develop for than the Xbone. Major Nelson still can't wait until the truth is revealed. LOL.

UltimateMaster3838d ago

MS PR:"I can't wait until the truth comes out!"
Well, it's out now, the PS4 is superior.

larrysdirtydrawss3838d ago

he was strongly hinting at it though,only a potato couldnt see that

4lc4pon33838d ago

PFFT go home your drunk

quenomamen3838d ago

Well then please tell us what you think he meant to say.

Phoenix763838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

@Jokes

"As an obvious analogy - and if people are not sure about this it's pretty simple - look at Call of Duty 2 versus COD 4. It was a massive leap forward in graphics, and that's just because it takes time to get through this."

Don't you mean the difference between CoD1 and 2? As I recall CoD2 and CoD4:MW used the same game engine, with 4 having upgraded texture and lighting effects.
Now CoD1 vs CoD2, now there was a real difference!

Bigpappy3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

@Septic: I am surprise that you are taking from this developer, that he sees X1 as less powerful. He does not hint at that whatsoever. Your responses are usually more solid than this. It seems as though this time you decided to play to the crowd.

Like JokesOnYou accurately pointed out: it is the problem M$ created when they allocated 10% of the system RESOURCES to Kinect and the OS. If M$ would change the firmware to free some more resources, these games will run just fine at 1080p resolution.

When that article came out yesterday about Embedded RAM being the issue, I told you guys it did not make any sense, because it was used effectively before on 360. Now here is a developer saying clearly that it is the shared resources that is the issue. You guy still refuse to accept this. I will not comment on this any further. This is a dead end conversation with people who are more about being fans than being honest.

Back-to-Back3838d ago

In essence he wants the games to sell as many copies as possible. It would be stupid for him to admit one console has the superior version. When ps3 got the bad ports of cod I didnt hear them ever downplay the ps3.

Thats just the way it is in business(especially in America).

JasonKCK3838d ago

Well I'm convinced N4G mods are Sony fans or on the payroll. The double standard here is ridiculous. I see post removed for trolling all day long if it's about PS but if you trash XB it's okay.

Take things out of context much?

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Jdoki3838d ago

I'm no X1 fan, but lets not be dramatic here. The future is not bleak for the X1.

The vast majority of X1's will be sold to people whose understanding of resolution stops at 'HD makes the pictures on my TV better'.

As long as the games look 'good' they will be happy. Sure Sony can use it to their advantage in marketing etc but these 'X1 is doomed' comments are as ridiculous as the old 'PS3 is doomed' noise we heard a few years ago.

Sayai jin3838d ago

"The vast majority of X1's will be sold to people whose understanding of resolution stops at 'HD makes the pictures on my TV better'. "

Spot on, but that won't stop at just the XB1. The vast majority to buy consoles (XB1 and PS4) are to the normal consumer not us cores. Most of them are not aware of the power differences, resolution differences, etc. They will pay attention to features though...whether they are legit features or gimicky, it will still look the same to most of them

quenomamen3838d ago

Bleak no, will people get inferior ports of some games on it ? Yes. Will they know they are ? Some will, some wont, some wont care. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

rainslacker3838d ago

It seems this gen that what most people said were inferior ports on the PS3 didn't really hamper the system's sales, or keep it from being alive, so i agree. For the vast majority, these things will probably be a non-issue.

However...A sizeable part of the initial install base is made up of core gamers, and not all gamers are fan boys. They will buy the system that offers them what they want. If the X1 can't catch on fast enough and the PS4 gains a much larger market share, it could mean that the X1 will get less of those ports, which for the long term could definitely hamper it.

It's not all doom and gloom though. I really believe the X1 will do fine over it's lifetime. Most of this stuff is for forum gamer discussion, and rarely makes it to the general masses.

bednet3837d ago

The way I see it is that last gen PS3 could have wiped the floor with the 360...but it didn't for a few reasons:

1 price
2 game quality (shoddy ports) on PS3
3 no games at the beginning
4 360 head start

Think about it, if the PS3 had come out 100$ cheaper than the 360, and released simultaneously with a good launch lineup and better game quality...what would the landscape be right now?

Well that's what we're looking at for this gen...the only difference and possible salvation for X1 is the massive user base...but let's remember that PS2's massive user base didn't necessarily translate to PS3 sales.

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CYCLEGAMER3838d ago

I think it is about the time they had with the tools, and the game.

We cannot assume that Infinity Ward received dev kits b4 anyone else, especially when it has been said that they received them late.

It is not like the xb1 doesn't have any 1080p games. I doubt the next COD or Battlefield will be lower than 1080p.

But you are right about the ps4 probably being easier to develop for.

sigfredod3838d ago

That is correct, they try to get 1080P on the xbone until a month ago, but the 60FPS was not getting achieve despite all the efforts, on the PS4 otherhand they did it easy of develope and more raw muscle

sigfredod3838d ago

Wow after reading this article i can't wait what they are going to achieve on the PS4 over time

Naga3838d ago

That's not quite an accurate summary of what he actually said. Though I see how you are rolling the popular narrative along with your inferences.

mhunterjr3838d ago

It's not really damning at all. It appears that the PS4 is easier to develop for, but given time and experience with the Xbox One's architecture, and improved tools from MS, Xbox games will perform better.

This is really nothing new, and occurs during every console transition.

Pixel_Enemy3838d ago

What makes you think that given time the PS4 games won't perform better? This gap in the launch will only widen.

mhunterjr3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

@pixel_enemy the ps4 games WILL perform better. but, I still don't see how that would be 'damning'. People buy games for the system they have. And people don't by systems for graphics alone.

There once was a time when 360 multiplats outperformed the ps3, but the ps3 was still successful. Now the ps3 tends to outperform the 360 multiplats, but 360 games are still selling. For example GTA V technically, performs better on PS3, but most people wouldnt care or notice.

The general public will hardly care about 720p vs 1080p. Once resolution parity is achieved, and the only difference is shaders and post processing effects, you'll be talking about diminutive returns...most of the public wont even notice.

So again, this will be a strength for Sony, but its FAR from 'damning' for MS. Their console will still sell fine because people will want their exclusives and their services.

strifeblade3838d ago

Sure the ps4 got better but similar to the way 360 got better. since both had their ease of development, 360 and probably the ps4 will hit their peak fairly early, like how the 360 hit peak with gears of war and ps3 took a bit more time due to development complexities when uncharted 2 released. The x1 will take more time to hit its peak just like the ps3 while the ps4 will hit it much faster.

Elit3Nick3838d ago

you have to remember though that Infinity Ward/Treyarch aren't known for stellar optimization. Remember how previous CODs were often bug ridden and just generally inferior on the PS3 because they didn't put much effort into optimising the game.

Sitdown3838d ago

"First launch, first time at bat at a new console is a challenging one. That's just the way it is. For people fearful one system is more powerful than the other or vice versa, it's a long game."

BobBelcher3838d ago

you enjoy soap operas don't you?

CJDUNCAN3838d ago

@svoulis,

just keep in mind that these are launch titles , and while the PS4 is coming out of the gate as more powerful, we will still have great looking and playing games on the X1.

Both systems have their ups and downs and you can see it in their mainstream launch exclusives: Ryse and Killzone Shadow Fall.

Killzone does 1080p and 60FPS SOMETIMES, 30FPS at other times. Does it mean it will be a horrible experience with the framerate inconsistency? I doubt it.

Ryse is only 900p, this game has been in development for a few years and couldn't achieve the glorified 1080p. Pretty shocking but not a deal breaker.

We invest in the future of consoles not in the start of them.

Peace

Sky Lazarus3837d ago

Would you invest in the future of a crappy car...and pay more for it...then just hope it becomes good....flawed logic.

CJDUNCAN3835d ago

It's flawed logic to say a console is crappy when 1. you don't have it and 2. you're not planning on getting one. So you're going off someone else's opinion rather than your own.

Now a crappy car, there's a carfax for that.

ipach3838d ago

seems that the ESRAM is not as much a problem as the overall X1 OS is. the issue is that the ESRAM is not MORE of a help, not so much that it is a bottleneck.. at least that's my impression

AngelicIceDiamond3838d ago

"Question is, if a developer like Infinity Ward, a studio I'm sure received dev kits way before other studios because of Call of Duty, cannot get COD: Ghosts at 1080p on Xbox One but easily gets it on PS4"

"the future really looks bleak for Microsoft's new console."

Does it now.

Considering you already answered your own question with.

"they simply couldn't get more out of the difficult architect of the Xbox One -- most notably the ESRAM bottlenecks, to make it run at a higher resolution."

Your comment was all over the place.

Rubin, CBOAT and MS themselves already stated similar to what Rubin just stated here.

"He also suggests future Xbox One Call of Duty games may not suffer a similar resolution issue, as developers further optimise the COD engine and Microsoft - potentially - tweaks the Xbox One's OS reserved memory allocation."

"tweaks the Xbox One's OS reserved memory allocation."

Which means 10% of the GPU's power reserved for Kinect will get solved.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/1...

It allll comes back around. So basically we're just talking in circles.

Hicken3838d ago

... yes, they'll get better, and the "damage" won't be as bad, when developing the next game.

But it's not like they'll be sitting still in terms of familiarity with the PS4, either.

That's what people are trying to get at, and that's what you, Death, and others seem intent on not comprehending.

Simply put: familiarity with the XB1 will not bridge the gap, as familiarity with the PS4 AND superior power will increase that gap. After all, there's only so much you can do to work around a bottleneck, especially when it's so difficult already; on the other hand, Sony's actually holding power- as far as amount of RAM available- in reserve.

AngelicIceDiamond3838d ago

@Hicken

"That's what people are trying to get at, and that's what you, Death, and others seem intent on not comprehending."

I can comprehend just fine. I'm fully aware of that, I already know that. But I'm not taking about that immediately I'm just clearing the air of this mentality of "Xbox can't hit next gen requirements."

PS4 is already impressing early on. The PS4 will get better and possibly even widen the gap.

I appreciate the disagree btw.

rainslacker3838d ago

I don't think MS future is bleak, just kind of rocky right now. MS isn't known to sit on it's laurels when it comes to developing their SDK's(for the most part), and they have a huge vested interest in making sure things get better over time. Same was true with MS and Sony this gen. In fact Sony has all but admitted to holding back on it's available resources for future enhancement(either for games or system features).

The difference in power wasn't as great this gen as has been reported for next gen, which can cause a disparity between how quickly games start to look better on a more powerful system which is also easier to program for. I doubt if this happens that it'll leave the X1 in the dust, but I have no doubt that exclusive PS4 titles will blow away exclusive X1 titles in the future in terms of graphics and what's being done in the background.

FANTA11803837d ago (Edited 3837d ago )

looks like ps4 cant run it either.

"choppy gameplay awaits "

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jackanderson19853838d ago

i think that was the fastest i've ever had something approved ha and hey maybe next year we'll have 1080p vs 1080p in the consoles... although then what will we argue about.... damn you infinity ward... damn you to hell

s8anicslayer3838d ago

@jackanderson Quote "damn you infinity ward... damn you to hell" Planet of The Apes circa 2001?

jackanderson19853838d ago

or the 1968 one ha either really

Perjoss3838d ago

That's easy to predict. If both consoles are spitting out 1080p games in 12 months time people will argue over the quality of the textures, anti aliasing, shadows, ambient occlusion, draw distance and of course things like frames rates and post effects that might be missing like motion blur and chromatic aberration.

jackanderson19853838d ago

ah i know i was just making a joke... they could release perfect replicas of the game on the consoles and someone somewhere would find something to complain about

jaren923838d ago

We will see both systems running 1080p native in the future for sure

WeAreLegion3838d ago

Agreed, but will developers finish the PS4 versions of games months before the XBO versions?

mhunterjr3838d ago

Why would that matter? They'd still be releasing on the same day...
360 was easier to develop for than the ps3, and development time per platform didn't matter at all...

WeAreLegion3838d ago

Because...if the PS4 version of something is done, I want that version out ASAP.

Sayai jin3838d ago

@WeAreLegion - I think over time developers will have a better grasp of the XB1's features and be able to develop better quality games. Games get better on console during their lifespan due to this reason. It's funny, because it was the other way around this gen...the 360 was easier to develop for than the PS3, but its the other way around. I remember people complaining that devs were to lazy to try to figure on how to get the most out of the PS3. I think MS should have kept the ease of dev they had with the 360 IMO.

I understand wanting the games a soon as possible, but remember good things come to those who wait.

Naga3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

@ WeAreLegion - I think you may be misunderstanding the sequence of events and their causes here. While it may turn out to be true that the PS4 is just inherently easier and faster to develop for, that's just not what the guy said in the article.

What has been pointed at in this article - and in others - is the fact that developers were saddled with theoretical hardware and tools which didn't arrive until late in the game. Essentially, they were trying to paint on a moving canvas.

From what it sounds like, the PS4 kits - hardware and tools alike - arrived much sooner and in much closer to final form than those of the Xbox One. Subsequently, it was easier for the developers to optimize and work their way through the architecture. Now there were some subtle references to the nature of the architecture itself, but not enough to justify big-time inferences as to long-term development times.

At the end of the day, I think the second round of games will say a lot more when it comes to development speed, ease, and quality. It's not *quite* fair to judge either console just yet. I'd really like to see what developers across the board are able to do when they start the development process on something which is already final as opposed to something which is constantly changing until the last minute like we had to varying degrees on both sides here.

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farhad2k83838d ago

Games just kept looking better and better on the PS3, what makes you think the same won't happen with PS4?
Killzone Shadow Fall runs at 60fps 1080p, the game looks fantastic, and it's only a launch title, it certainly isn't using EVERYTHING the PS4 has to offer.

Games in the future will look better, and stay at 1080p on the PS4, but it's up to the developers to do that, first party devs will make it happen, third party devs may do it differently though.

GentlemenRUs3838d ago

I never really did see the benefits of ESRAM for gaming...

KingKionic 3838d ago

Now we hear infinty ward confirm that allocation is different on each console.

How much resources is microsoft using up that cod ghosts cant hit 1080p?

This is getting ridiculous.

XxGOWxX3838d ago

i think i saw somewhere the kinect uses 10% of the gpu all the time.

MasterCornholio3838d ago

Now I understand when people say " worse with kinect".

What amazes me is that the Xbox One doesn't have a chip that takes care of Kinects processing.

Nexus 7 2013

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno41m ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

Eonjay52m ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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Scissorman36m ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218328m ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast12h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech57h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom9h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21839h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus238h ago(Edited 8h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-5h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast12h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast8h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim8h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast3h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman10h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto9h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA9h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda9h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1498h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT7h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor2h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic18817h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead11h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson9h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21839h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus238h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More

Microsoft has closed a number of Bethesda studios, including Redfall maker Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks, and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda, IGN can confirm.

Moegooner1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Hi-Fi Rush studio??? Seriously?? Goes to show quality matters lil to MS.

Worst gen ever. All big 3 battling are for who sucks the most. They just keep one upping one another.

-Foxtrot1d 10h ago

This does feel like a “quick Sony is getting shit on for Helldivers, let’s announce it now to minimise impact”

thesoftware7301d 10h ago

That is silly. Let's say there is some weird conspiracy. This announcement would effectively take ALL the attention away from the HD2 situation, especially since there is no longer an HD2 situation. I don't think anything will minimize this impact.

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

... so they announce it on a Tuesday? 36 hours after Sony cleared up everything?

You people care more about the next conspiracy than anything else.

Nevermind that Sony followed the golden rule of minimizing impact by announcing horrible news on a Friday.

Eonjay1d 9h ago

The constant weekly weird Sony drama is part of the industry's problem. Everyone else feels they can get away with murder. Also, what is the point of spending all that money if you just start shutting studios down. And... Redfall wasn't Arkane's fought. Microsoft new the shape the game was in but needed something for GamePass after a whole year of no releases into the service. Them taking it out on Arkane seems really disingenuous and distasteful. And WTF did Tango do? Didn't Todd just release a statement saying how he would never retire. Fire his ass.

romulus231d 9h ago

Well if that was the reason for the timing it didn't work.

darthv721d 9h ago

wow... i did not have them closing Tango and Arkane Austin on my bingo card.

Hofstaderman1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Yes it does. Arkane Austin I can understand but Tango Gameworks made an excellent game in Hi Fi Rush.
On review, it want really all on Austin for Redfall and its failure, they were forced to make a multiplayer games when their expertise was always single player driven first person games.

-Foxtrot1d 8h ago

Guys I’m not being all that serious…relax

Outside_ofthe_Box1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

"I don't think anything will minimize this impact."

It already has. Notice your comment(or lack there of) vs HD2.

On another note, I would like to see Microsoft buy more studios and do more shadows drops on subscription services like they did Hi-Fi Rush. It's great for the industry I was told by people on here.

Zeref1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works. Same thing with layoffs. All of a sudden everyone has layoffs around the same time

Cacabunga1d 4h ago

MS will always make it to amaze me by showing the worse version of themselves every single time..

peppeaccardo1d 4h ago

MS proving to the world that ttheir leadership cannot drive success from these new acquisitions. They have ran the numbers and they have realized that long term, without a clear direction from the motehrship, these are a loss for the company hence they need to be cut. I might be wrong but I am absolutelly sure that if these developers would have not been purchased by Microsoft they would be still on business. A shame ...

senorfartcushion16h ago

Both things have happened but N4G's commenters (90% Playstation ) will follow suit

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Einhander19721d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

10/10 deflection, the ol' Sony too deflect...

Let's not discuss the fact that PlayStations struggles have largely been caused by the fact that game pass has reshaped how consumers spend causing them to spend less as they play what is on subscriptions and don't buy games as much because they either have become subscription gamers or they fear the game will come to a subscription so they don't buy things.

And it's not just PlayStation, the whole industry has been effected, many big studios are struggling across the board to match sales targets from pre-game pass releases which is especially apparent in things like sequels.

Heck the best example was Microsoft's own Starfield which should have easily blasted past 10m sales by the end of 2023 going by sales of similar Bethesda games yet was only able to achieve 3m which of course was almost entirely on Steam.

Moegooner1d 10h ago

Or maybe it's because Sony hasn't released multiple worthwhile SP games like they normally do each gen and the ones they did released actually sold well.

Layoffs aren't because studios are struggling, but because major publishers want to maximise profit gains.

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Absolutely it's a service that's changed the way we view and consume games overall for the worse games have little value when they are part of a sub and become disposable doubly so if they are a day 1 freebie often it's the kiss of death for a game to be day 1 on gamepass as PlayStation players look at it like why do I have to pay 60 dollars for back 4 blood, payday 3 or outriders it'll be on PS plus soon enough and funny enough those games always fail to meet expectations sales are poor and longevity is poor.

When I see a game get a day 1 tag outside of first party my first thought is always something is wrong with it and it can't stand on its own feet so the publisher has made a deal to recoup development cost.

Even first party games have dropped in quality noticeably so since gamepass with gears 5 being the only good release I can think of since gamepass started

Petebloodyonion1d 9h ago

Wasn't aware that Gamepass is available on PlayStation.
Or are you telling us that a service from a console lacking in sales is so great that it affects the morale and buying habits of ppl lacking access to the service?

Also pretty sure that saying all of them competing for who sucks means the whole industry and not just Sony and MS.

Nitrowolf21d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

This is what people online want. They just don't know or understand it. So many have warned about consolidation, and exactly what they have fear has been happening

This isn't the end, expect more bought out studios to be closed in the next few years

Hofstaderman1d 8h ago

Spot on. All in the name "growth" to appease investors and shareholders. Can't sustain the lie though...it will always implode as illustrated by these closures. Applies to MS and Embracer.

TiredGamer1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

This. ^

Publishers are slowly mitigating all development risk since every new big/medium budget game has become too big to fail. Games are too expensive to make and the profitability for titles rests on a hair’s edge. When you need to sell 5 million copies of a game to be profitable, you know that we’ve turned a new page in gaming. The real victims here are the smaller studios/games that bring so much character and variety to the industry, like with Hi-Fi Rush.

It looks to me that Hi-Fi Rush did not fulfill financial expectations for moving the GamePass needle, and the sales from the PlayStation port experiment did not measure up either. So it gets the boot.

Sad day and era for gaming.

notachance23h ago

yeah smaller ABK studios like Toys For Bob are now in dangers

notachance1d 9h ago

I just don’t know how the hell a company that can spend $67b to purchase a publisher decided that it’s okay to close the studio that produces their best game last year.

Whoever the higher up there that decides this is completely out of touch of how the game industry works, the damn xbox division as a whole would’ve been closed already if they weren’t sustained by other MS divisions.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

I got in an argument with someone on reddit and they weren't haven't that Xbox isn't propped up by other divisions argument. They swore up and down that Xbox was pulling its own weight. I just stopped after a couple back and forths

TiredGamer1d 3h ago

Didn’t move the GamePass needle and the PlayStation port couldn’t save the return on investment….

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dumahim1d 8h ago

So this is what happens when you're pleased with the sales and investing in the studio? Good guy Phil at it again.

Sonic18811d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

From Aaron Greenburg:

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in all key measurements and expectations. We couldn’t be happier with what the team at Tango Gameworks delivered with this surprise release."

😂😂😂 🤥🤥

Lightning771d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Once again MS creates their own problems and they create their own animosity. Idc about their shitty excuse and "reasons" they're a incompetent company, plus all their Xbox fanboy influencers are dwindling I noticed. How many excuses can you make for a company like MS? Consoles are down and they're losing their own fanboy influencers also. That's all they had to cheer lead them now they're leaving them. Pretty nobody will be on MS dude no matter if they (if they ever but I doubt it) get their act together.

Trashy ass ppl and company....

If they go under eventual it's because of their own doing nobody else's.

porkChop1d 4h ago

Yeah overall this gen is pretty shit. Everyone is making horrible decisions, great devs are getting either gutted or entirely shut down regardless of quality or success, very little in the way of innovative games, etc. This industry needs to see some drastic changes.

badz14918h ago

where are all the cheerleaders for MS acquisitions amid all these?? you guys happy now? this will not be the end of it, maybe just the beginning!

OptimusDK10h ago

Maybe it has to do with this:
Hinji Mikami is leaving Tango Gameworks in the coming months.On February 23 it was reported that Mikami would be departing Tango Gameworks. Bethesda has stepped in to confirm the report of Mikami's forthcoming departure from the studio he founded over a decade ago.

Mikami originally founded Tango Gameworks in 2010 after departing Capcom, having lead the development of iconic games like Resident Evil and Resident Evil 4.

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shadowT1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Tango Gameworks and Arkane?

RaidenBlack1d 10h ago

Arkane Austin (Prey developer)
Not Arkane Lyon ( Dishonored developer)

Crows901d 9h ago

Prey was fantastic. Red fall was shit because they were forced to do shit they didn't want to make.

Atkane Lyon did death loop I believe....I hated that one.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

I personally liked prey more.

RaidenBlack1d 8h ago

@shinoff2183
Because Prey was creative and different
Other than the live service Redfall, all other single-player Arkane projects have been creative and interesting

Tankbusta401d 8h ago

@Crows90

So just because people don't want to do something in life...bad quality is excused? Look what happened over that bad quality? no more studio

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MrDead1d 9h ago

Will be more soon, I've said it before I can't see MS keeping Bethesda. I think they'll strip it's IPs and slowly close everything, it's what they do.

VariantAEC1d 8h ago

No one wants to admit it, but yeah MS has a long history of pillaging other smaller corporations for IP and dispensing with everything else.

Zeref1d 6h ago

That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?

MrDead1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

@Zeref
"That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?"

MS don't care about the studios, they want the IP's. They'll keep the big ones in house, the game engines they run on and licence the rest. Stacks of cash to be made from licensing IP's ...or just sit on them so no one else can use them.

blackblades1d 2h ago

@Zeref silly fool, buy them for the IP have there other studios make the games using the IP names to sell them. We all know having a popular franchise name can sell

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Einhander19721d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Well xbox fans you got what you asked for... and honestly deserved...

It was so easily predictable that game pass was never going to be able to support all these studios.

If Microsoft can't win they are going to burn it all to the ground...

Countdown to Phil Spencer telling us "it's better for the gamers this way" yet again.

Barlos1d 9h ago

Agree but gamers didn't ask for people to be out of work.

VenomUK1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

@Barlos They indirectly did. Every person who made a wish list of who Microsoft should buy next and were sending tweets to Phil Spencer and Xbox with proposed studios, played a part.

The saddest part is the studios were closed because of the underperformance of their last games, and if they had been given a chance then their next games could’ve been great and succeeded. But it is the same old Phil Spencer Microsoft problem which is not giving them a chance, and that’s why he is not able to manage game studios.

VariantAEC1d 8h ago

Yeah they did. Just because they refused to see what everyone with a brain was telling them doesn't mean they didn't know. They were told, they should've put up a fight and they didn't. This is the result. But who knows even if MS' fans weren't such boot-lickers, MS could've carried this out against their fans wishes anyway. Unfortunately, we have the hardcore MS defense bots running to deflect from any bad news and maybe, just maybe, MS felt empowered to do more damage as a result of their fans cheering this all on.

anast1d 7h ago

They sold themselves out. Once people buy you they can do what they want. None of this should have been a surprise. When companies get bought out, they eventually get dismantled.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Xbox fans were to busy daydreaming of Ms curbstopping Sony they didn't look at the big picture.

Einhander19721d 8h ago

Not disagreeing at all.

I want to add that from the day Microsoft announced game pass, before they even started buying up studios it was obvious that game pass wasn't going to be able to support itself.

It was so dumb that they doubled down on it by spending 100B on a service they knew only existed through subsidization.

They should have realized there was no way that adding massively more costs on a subscription they were subsidizing was certain to fail. Especially after seeing how it had devastated sales across the platform as a whole.

Heck by the time this generation started during covid when the console sales were similar PlayStation was already outselling xbox on multiplatform games 8:1 yet they still doubled down on it.

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Relientk771d 10h ago

This is beyond wrong. Like wtf!? Especially Tango Gameworks with Hi-Fi Rush. I've heard nothing but good things about that game. Just because Arkane Austin screwed up one game release doesn't mean you need to close them. It sounds like they were forced to do a multiplayer game when they're a single player studio. They could have made a Prey 2 or some other game next.

Just wow awful news.

Einhander19721d 10h ago

Apparently PlayStation owners didn't buy enough copies of Hi-Fi Rush...

romulus231d 9h ago

"Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements" amid rumors of poor sales. Following rumors that Tango Gameworks' Hi-Fish Rush didn't meet sales expectations, Xbox marketing VP Aaron Greenburg is defending the "break out hit" as a success by all metrics."

According to Aaron Greenburg it was a success so they shouldn't have even needed PlayStation owners to buy it. That being said, I bought it and really enjoyed it, it's a great game. Shame MS closed them down.

RpgSama1d 9h ago

@Romulus23

All lies by the Green Bug, that just means that a lot of people fired bullets or whatever in the game, that's the key measurements they care to share.

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game.

Crows901d 9h ago

That's usually what happens when you don't release it at the same time as other platforms....same thing happened with tomb raider reboot sequel. MS got exclusivity for a year and then when it came to PlayStation it barely sold. Nobody cared anymore.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Still waiting on the physical release pre order window

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

Well... I did my part. Hi-Fi Rush is a good game, but I don't think its MS' style. We don't really know how well it did or didn't perform by the numbers or whether it broke even. This could just be another MS blunder.

Elda1d 6h ago

Exactly. MS purchasing a 3rd party studio & keeping games off of other platforms probably hurt them in the long run, then finally putting Hi Fi Rush on PS which in turn PS fans probably didn't care to buy & support Hi Fi Rush after a year later of release. Hi Fi Rush was released on Gamepass so it probably never really made any money selling solely.

Eonjay1d 6h ago

@romulus23

Let's hope it didn't sell well because that would make this worse. Also I could have sworn I read an article about their next game in the works.

Seraphim1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I was wondering if that played any part considering the timing, though, XB claimed the game to be a success last year only on XB & PC. Regardless MS f'd up there too. They shadow dropped HiFi on XB/PC last year at the perfect time. This year when they released on PS not only had the hype died, but there were so many solid games available the first 3 months of this year to play.

I almost bought it on PC last year, but now that it dropped on PS I just have far too many games to play to bother...

If MS needs PS and even Switch sales they need a better strategy. At the very least a release date where players are more inticed to buy said game. The problem is always going to be that if they want exclusives the hype for these games will be dead a year later. The exceptions might be some of their heavy hitters.... 2 cents

Angyobangyo14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

PS and PC owners probably bought more copies that Xbox owners.

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CrashMania1d 10h ago

I can only imagine the little amount of revenue both games generated, sent straight to gamepass and excluded from the largest current gen console userbase. Not to say both games would have done well if they were on PS5 too, but you heavily damage to a games revenue when you put it on a stagnating sub service for a poorly selling console, can't really see people going out in droves to sub to GP to play this.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Gamepass subs(most of Xbox players) don't buy games all like that so it's not sustainable. It's reality.

RaidenBlack1d 10h ago

Yea Austin made one of the most creative game of last gen with Prey and were forced to take risk with Redfall and now the whole studio is being closed.

Aphrodia1d 9h ago

Yes, that Tango gameworks/ Hi-Fi closure was an eye opener for me as well. Neither played it nor was interested in it myself but all I heard was everyone acting like it was the second coming of guitar hero or something.

I don't know what else to say other than modern gaming is an overwhelming sea of mediocrity and there's not enough voices of reason speaking up and saying that most games made these days are just not very good.

shinoff21831d 9h ago

Your playing the wrong games then. There's always been shovelware type games. Going back to wii, snes, nes, ps1 Xbox og. That's a bs blanket statement. As an older gamer since atari days I'd personally say this is a great time. If you can't find anything to play. That's on you

With all that said in no way or form am I speaking of multi-player games, gacha, or whatever. I'm strictly speaking on single player games.

Aphrodia1d 6h ago

you are hilarious. trying to validate your comment by excluding over half of the games out there today. Pathetic man.

Neonridr1d 8h ago

I'm more devastated at the loss of The Evil Within.

Chevalier21h ago

Wait I was told Xbox had great engagement numbers?! Some Xbox fans said they bought games when I told them Xbox customers don't buy games?

So Xbox bought studios to keep games off other platforms and forgot they conditioned Xbox customers to not buy games. Whoops.

So anyone else think Outer World's 2 dies 🤔? I'm thinking a small game losing out on Nintendo and Playstation gamers buying will kill this IP. But it's okay Xbox fans can get more COD! Halo, Gears and Forza! Woot that's a 'win'. Yay Gamepass FTW

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CrashMania1d 10h ago

Can't wait to see the usual try spin and play this down. So much for the heroic MS and Phil saving these studios eh.

Eonjay1d 10h ago

By the end of the day IGN will be talking about how this is right for the industry. Don't worry, Microsoft's PR is making the call now.

RpgSama1d 9h ago

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game, and I'm sure Arkhane failed just because they were both rushed and pressured into making a GaaS game they had no experience in doing and no support to get it completed out of the gate.

PrinceOfAnger1d 9h ago

Not a big deal only hi fi rush was good

Sony has closed
Manchester studio
Japan studio
Pixel opus
London studio
Ready At Dawn ...

RupeeHoarder1d 9h ago

The difference being Sony has a large group of other studios that have done something positive. Microsoft just closed the studio to the only good game they released in the past year (Hi-Fi Rush).

CrashMania1d 9h ago

They all suck as well of course. But MS spent 10s of billions on these publishers for mass consolidation, every made a song and dance about how MS would save them, using their endless Windows, 365 and Azure money to keep them open forever and how Phil was some hero.

Nothing is safe unless it makes money, even for MS.

romulus231d 9h ago

It is a big deal.

Microsoft has closed
Fasa Studios
Digital Anvil
Ensemble
Lionhead Studios
Press Play
Arkane Austin
Tango Gameworks

Einhander19721d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Wow how far back do you want to go back.

Lionhead Studios
Aces Game Studio
BigPark
Carbonated Game
Digital Anvil
Ensemble Studios
FASA Studio
Good Science Studio
Hired Gun
Microsoft Studios Japan
Microsoft Studios Victoria
Team Dakota
Xbox Entertainment Studios
Xbox Live Productions
Lift London
Access Software
Salt Lake Games Studio
Twisted Pixel Games
WingNut Interactive

And more before this, this was just their cuts during xbone era that Phil cut while he was at the head.

And some of those PlayStation studios were merged not closed, most of the UK studios were folded into each other.

Japan Studio was renamed to Asobi not closed, aAsobi was an internal team of Japan Studio the "closure" the press misinformed people about was more or less a name change, the studio is in the same building and when the change happened less than 5 people mostly leadership positions chose to leave the studio to form Bokeh Studio, which still works closely with Sony.

And even if your deflection stood on it's own, Microsoft spent 3 Billion 3 years ago almost to the date to buy Zenimax and has already closed 2 of it's biggest studios and decimated Zenimax's support studio structure.

It's no wonder Todd Howard was talking about "more frequent releases" and letting other studios make their IP's games. The days of big budget huge Bethesda games is over...

In fact sadly Microsoft has ushered in the end of big budget gaming as we know it with their obviously unsustainable subscription industry change.

And I feel fully confident that this isn't the end of studio closures from these recently purchased studios.

Abnor_Mal1d 9h ago

Ready At Dawn was never a Sony owned studio, and only made a few smaller God of War games and a Jax and Daxter spin off, and of course The Order1866.

They are currently owned by OcUlus Studios.

MrDead1d 9h ago

How many times has MS fired Bethesda staff since they purchased it? I think it's been three rounds so far

BehindTheRows1d 9h ago

Deflection is the finest form of delusion.

shinoff21831d 8h ago

London studio what have they made recently. Really the worst one was Japan studio. That sucked.

In reality though your deflecting. The fact of the matter is Ms just closed the studio that made their highest rated game in years. That's insane.

Hofstaderman1d 8h ago

Also many of those staff were absorbed into other studios.

VariantAEC1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Ready At Dawn was never a PS first party studio.
Manchester was closed and it was proposed that London should be closed, but their website is still up with no news about it being closed on their official site anywhere. So it's possible that the proposed closure just did not happen to get fufilled. Meaning London Studio *MIGHT* still be open running lean.

Edit: Japan Studio was closed with some staff making up the new Asobi Team Studio who's first title was the PS5 pack-in game "Astro's Playroom." Pixel Opus was closed and not replaced or spun-off their only games were Entwined and Concrete Genie they also helped publish Journey according to Wikipedia.

Chevalier21h ago

Man you got crap info

Sony never owned Ready at Dawn. It's now owned by Oculus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Tacoboto1d 9h ago

Phil needs to step down. What kind of usual spin do you want?

More and more people lose jobs but the people at the top stay the same. Hardware sales tank despite billions and billions spent. The math is plain and simple.

Sonic18811d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I'm still trying to figure out what was the real reason to acquire Bethesda for millions or Billions of dollars if you're closing down studios 🤔 What were their true intentions 🤔 I mean do Microsoft really want to be a third-party publisher? It sounds like they're confused.with their future in gaming

VariantAEC1d 7h ago

@Sonic1881
To rape each studio for their sweet succulent ultra-valuable IP. This is Microsoft's favorite past-time.

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