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Should Microsoft delay the Xbox One Launch | OmniGamer

As we all know Microsoft and the Xbox One have had a lot of issues with the console launch and the console hasn't even launched yet! I personally know of quite a few people that were once Xbox fan boys/girls that have already pre-ordered the PS4. I believe that at this point Microsoft needs to take drastic action…. DELAY THE RELEASE OF THE XBOX ONE but my friend and coworker feels differently.

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allformats3954d ago

Nah, let them go ahead and release the thing.

NatureOfLogic3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Xbox One has so many issues that a delay would be the best approach for the consumers or Xbox fans to pan out some of the problems with the console. The only reason MS will not delay, is the fear of giving PS4 a headstart. It's becoming more clear by the day that MS is clearly rushing their console out to compete with Sony.

Fanboyism aside, I think MS understands that Xbox 360 launched a year of ahead of PS3(with all it's launch issues) and was still out sold by PS3. I believe they're not as confident as Sony was in Playstation when they chose to delay PS3. It clear that Xbox One is rushed only to compete with PS4. A delay would mean no software patch, no kinect requirement and maybe a price reduction/ram upgrade. The lack of first party games and third party exclusives is also evident of a rushed launch. This is just my opinion on the topic.

zeal0us3954d ago

People tend to exaggerate heavily. The Xbox One don't have so many issues. The only issues I see right now is the price(which is due to the inclusion of Kinect) and the specs. What else is there need to be fixed? The DRM and used game crap is gone.

Building a functional X1 without Kinect shouldn't take long. Far as the specs goes, increasing them really isn't necessary.

georgeenoob3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

So many issues? You need to exit that Sony fantasy land of yours.

You don't even state any issues in your post to support your statement. Go ahead and try to state some I'd love to hear it. Probably the same Sony fanboy crap you guys love crying about like "kinect will spy on you".

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Godmars2903954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@NatureOfLogic:
If as I suspect Kinect has been nothing but a marketing record device since it was first announced, then MS isn't going to be getting rid of it anytime soon. Though they don't have always online now they're still stressing online features, the cloud, so Kinect can still do what it was meant to do, which is to help with advertising.

@pedrof93:
"I wanna see them play Halo and Gears and Fifa and Unchartred on their gay station."

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One of those games is exclusive and another's multi, so you've got to be joking. You've got to be.

Edit@pedorf93:
Thank you and sorry. Given the internetz, its hard to tell sometimes. Most times...

pedrof933954d ago

@godmars.

My friend.

Trolling I was.

HammadTheBeast3954d ago

Oh thank god Pedro. I was about to cry.

Cmk01213954d ago

People really exaggerated , when you factor in people buying ps3 for a blu ray player solely on top of who'll Asian market refusing to buy Xbox 360 for no reason other than it was 100% catered to them and the sales were last released as being within a million units of each other not really a big deal. Last gen wii won need I say more Bout people's purchasing decisions ... People
Mocked ms for not caring about gamers yet MS brought Netflix Nd the app centric approach to
Gamers. And Sony followed in toe. Same with this gen, all
You hear is about MS talking about sports and tv yet last gen Sony brought nfl Sunday ticket to ps3( great feature btw). It's all
About perspective and seeing that
Xbox is better online and competitive and Sony owns offline campaign experiences.

slampunk3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@natureoflogic

I have both PS3 and 360.....and what you are saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.....why?

PS2 sold around 150 million, Xbox Original around 20 million....

360 and PS3 have sold around 80 million each.....

Do you really think that Sony wanted to lose the amount of market share that had in one generation?

It's hilarious that FB's criticize the other company whilst being blind to their preferred consoles mistakes ( which both companies have made).

I think the PS4 has done a fantastic job so far but there are still questions i have regarding their online services as they have been very quiet about when things will launch with gaikai and i also think they could have issues around their software at launch....hope i'm wrong, but we'll see...

The best thing Sony has done IMO with PS4 is fix the mistakes they made last gen....launch at the same time or first, make a developer friendly console, cross game chat, improve the controller design and ship with a headset!!!!

MS have done a terrible job with their messaging so far but i do have faith in their online services and software....you only have to look at the upgrades they have made to the dashboard over the course of this gen.....in amongst some concerns.....

Heartnet3954d ago

There is nothing to suggest there rushing it out...

and tehre is no problems with the console just some PR disaster in explaining stuff...

and if they were going by the previous gen they wouldnt worry about releasing early as although the ps3 eventually outsold the Xbox360 MS still had way more profit and money out of the thing..

hell until a few years ago sony were making a loss on each ps3 sold and were relying on Software sales.

and X1 has more games than ps4 at launch and showed exclusive games at E3..

when you said fanboysim aside you clearly havnt done any research aside from n4g which is pretty muuch all sony pro news and ms neg news... get off n4g and go do some actual research into whats what and youll realise how much is wrong in ur comment

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NatureOfLogic3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@ Heartnet , Nice try, though it seems you are the one who use n4g for facts.

PS4 launch games not available on Xbox One.....

Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
Warframe
DC Universe Online
DriveClub
Diablo 3

These are games that we know are day one.

Xbox One launch games not available on PS4.....

Dead Rising 3
Forza Motorsport 5
LocoCycle
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports Rivals
Ryse: Son of Rome

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And If I were to include a list of total announced games so far, Xbox One would lose there.

georgeenoob3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@Nature

Half those games you listed for PS4 are multiplatform. X1 launch exclusives beat PS4's in both quality and quantity.

PS4:
Killzone
Knack
Driveclub

X1:
Dead Rising
Forza
Ryse
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports

NatureOfLogic3954d ago

@ georgeenoob

He argued that Xbox One had more launch games, which is simply untrue. You can not play warframe, Diablo 3 or DC Universe Online on Xbox One(these are games for those in denial). Xbox One might have more day one launch exclusives so far, but PS4 have more games available over Xbox One on launch day. Prove me wrong if you can.

fermcr3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

So many issues ???

The only issue i see now is the forced inclusion of Kinect, and that is easily resolved with a software update.

The smartest thing Microsoft could do now (from my point of view) is release a cheaper version of the X1 without Kinect, maybe even a bit cheaper then the PS4.

Kryptix3954d ago

@georgee
lol You mention quality then you add Kinect Sports. lol Yea...you woke up from your dream yet?

H0RSE3954d ago

@NatureOfLogic - "PS4 have more games available over Xbox One on launch day. Prove me wrong if you can."
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According to the Xbox One and PS4 wiki's on IGN, you are both right and wrong - Xbox does not have more launch titles than PS4, however PS4 does not have more either - they are the same. 17 titles each.

XBOX:

1. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
2. Battlefield 4
3. Call of Duty: Ghosts
4. Dead Rising 3
5. FIFA 14
6. Forza Motorsport 5
7. Just Dance 2014
8. Killer Instinct
9. Kinect Sports Rivals
10. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
11. LocoCycle
12. Madden NFL 25
13. NBA 2K14
14. NBA Live 14
15. Ryse: Son of Rome
16. Skylanders: Swap Force
17. Watch Dogs

PS4:

1. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
2. Battlefield 4
3. Call of Duty: Ghosts
4. DC Universe Online
5. Diablo 3
6. Drive Club
7. FIFA 14
8. Just Dance 2014
9. Killzone: Shadow Fall
10. Knack
11. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
12. Madden NFL 25
13. NBA 2K14
14. NBA Live 14
15. Skylanders: Swap Force
16. Warframe
17. Watch Dogs

AzureskyZ3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Well its easy to just delay the console, but then they risk in giving sony the easy win. At this point production of the console is probably in full circle to meet the demands for holiday season. Console specs im sure finalized and in production, however if there is one concern it might been in the software department. DRM, family share was deeply rooted in the infrastructure of the os, so its possible a significant amount of it have to be recoded. My other concern, although is a rumor, is that APU may get overclocked, although this might give it a performance boost, it also produces alot more heat. Microsoft never shied away for releasing untested product, but its hard to say what the correct approach is when your competitor is release their console within the same window and has been gaining momentum since E3.

Ausbo3954d ago

You guys are all wrong. Diablo 3 is not a launch title. It got delayed to 2014 and an xbox one version is likely

http://www.craveonline.com/...

minimur123954d ago

'around the world later this year '

Japan, 2014 and wherever else it's being released in 2014

Urusernamesucks3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

The only Issue is bad publicity Which is fed By Misinformed children fanboys and paranoid tards.

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StoneyYoshi3954d ago

@ allformats
Agreed! i mean they couldn't even play the games on the actual system they were demonstrating to people at E3. There has to be something wrong if they cant show their systems running their launch games 5 months before the whole freaking system releases.

Death3954d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft had games running on PC's and dev systems. This is not uncommon this early in a console lifecycle. Neither system has started production. Pre-production with limited runs are happening to get manufacturing setup, but full scale production is weeks if not months away.

theWB273954d ago

Did you not know about this?

http://www.psu.com/forums/s...

There were games running on actual hardware and on PC's for both systems. Get over it.

Godmars2903954d ago

@Death:
Except where Sony used actual dev kits, with hardware representative of what would finally go into the PS4, MS used neither similar hardware or even software. And even the rumor that the XB1 might see increases in RAM and CPU/GPU, even if its only to spite Sony and no longer be the lower spec system, suggest such.

StoneyYoshi3954d ago

"There were games running on actual hardware and on PC's for both systems. Get over it."

Ok so we have a legit photo of a demo running on a windows PC and you are going to come back with Giantbomb claiming that PS4 was also doing the same thing? Legit proof and word of mouth are nothing alike. Show me a picture of a PS4 demo at E3 running on a pc.

How about you get over it?

Heartnet3954d ago

You do realise that one picture on the web was A developer who created the Game LocoCycle and they owned up to it as they hadnt finished porting it and wanted to show it off...

seriously dude get off n4g and go research before irrationalyl comment...

your mindset is stuck on ps4 and refuses to see anything else...

StoneyYoshi3953d ago

@ heartnet

Lol! Did you also forget the windows 7 sound that chimes in at 3:20 on the Dead Rising 3 demo? Seems like you need to go do some research yourself. Oh and while you are at it, why don't you go learn how to type a proper sentence, also spelling helps too, because its very hard to take any of your comments seriously.

You might have to get off of N4G yourself, because it seems like you are getting pretty livid at anybody who doesn't agree with you.

Also stating my opinion towards something that you deeply care about does not make somebody a "fanboy".

Can we just have a damn debate about something on this site without these children coming in here with, "fanboy this and fanboy that! FANBOY FANBOY FANBOY."

Seriously, you people need to grow the hell up.

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dedicatedtogamers3954d ago

If the rumors regarding yield issues and being forced to rush-fix the UI are true, then a delay would be for the best for Xbox fans.

But of course, Microsoft won't delay it. "Ship first, patch later" has always been their MO. The people who will suffer will be early adopters.

Heartnet3954d ago

same with every console and every game this gen...

i miss the previous gen when nothing could be patched so everything was fine :)

medman3954d ago

Microsoft would only anger gamers further by delaying the console. They already have a pr disaster on their hands, but to infuriate those gamers who despite Microsoft's shortcomings pre-ordered what appears to be a confused console would be galling. Delay for what? To get their act together and offer more hardware performance? That ship has sailed. They are not going to eat hundreds of millions in development cost to go back and upgrade the memory and gpu/cpu to give the ps4 a head start in this gen. It is counterintuitive. They made their plan, they botched it, Sony surprised them with 8gb of gddr5 and other aspects of the ps4 including pricing. Now they have to push on and hope that gamers will find some of the software they offer to be compelling enough to put down cash for the Xbone.

greenlantern28143953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

they should only delay the launch if they are aware of problems. it would really be a bad thing to bring it to market if the machine isnt ready to go. but if it is then release it.
I know they dont want to give sony any kind of head start. but the reasons people want them to delay launch is for things that ms isnt going to do annyways like remove kinect. however they might want to delay just a little bit to avoid potential problems with the day 1 update,

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zeal0us3954d ago

Making a functional X1 that doesn't rely on Kinect to run wouldn't take that long or long enough that it needs to be delay.

Increasing the specs so that its closer to the PS4 or stronger than the PS4 really isn't necessary. Soon as MS does you can bet the price will increase with or without the Kinect.

HammadTheBeast3954d ago

That's not happening because MS is forcing devs to put in Kinect dedicated applications into games. Their emphasis on the kinect will make it hard o make a kinect-less X1. But I agree, there aren't any massive issues with it.

Heartnet3954d ago

wouldnt say there forcing dev's

at the end of the day if there not publishing the game then they cant tell the dev what to do...

there giving developers more options to use knowing that they can use those features.

For instance every ps4 controller has move attached but the dev cant utilize this without putting in an extra option to ovveride that as not every1 will have the camera therefor no dev will utilize it as its a waste of time and money.

Kryptix3954d ago

The main problem with this is people who already pre-ordered the Xbox One and paid the full $500 would be pissed off. And I agree, there's not many problems with the Xbox One...it's just the people running it.

RedHawkX3954d ago

without everyone always being online kinect will not function as good without the power of the cloud that was based around everyone being online drm all the time. not only that but releasing now and not having enough consoles to where people who want an xbox one cant get one or have to pay ebay prices is not good thats lost money. the xbox one needs a day one patch like nintendos wii u and we seen how bad that went because some people didnt have internet to download the patch and because the patch was a huge file. they we need to have a day one patch disk available to people at the store so those without internet can get there xbox ones to play games. they need to delay to january or late december. also these are just the problems we know right now imagine top seret stuff we dont know that coud be going wrong.

blackmanone3954d ago

"without everyone always being online kinect will not function as good without the power of the cloud that was based around everyone being online drm all the time."

I understand now how MS convinces these people. It's just too easy.

iamnsuperman3954d ago

Bad move. I mean they could update some of the system to make it more powerful but that not only does that add to the cost of developing the console it also puts Microsoft in a bad position as the console is already more expensive than its rival. Okay it happened to the PS3 and sales eventually picked up but the increase in cost with the bad press and the fact that couldn't make drastic hardware changes to the One it would be suicidal for Microsoft. They would have to completely change their how PR campaign. These things do not get done in a matter of weeks. It takes months and sometimes years to do when it comes to a big launch

FrigidDARKNESS3954d ago

First of all this is an opinion by the author that has been reading to many negative articles. Delaying it won't stop all the negative BS and Mularkey. Release the console show how awesome itit is with the better looking games and consumers will start to change their minds.

pedrof933954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

You are right. The faster they release it. The faster people understand how awesome the One is.

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Gamesgbkiller3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

I don't think that MS has the balls to do something like .... oh wait!!

Red_Devilz3954d ago

They may not have balls, but they have Ballmer!

Urusernamesucks3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Fuking hell... My sides ...

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188110h ago(Edited 10h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2330m ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

SonyStyled6h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

Ms3tjt4h ago

“ Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. ”

Aka

“I don’t know how business works”

Domkakop2h ago

You might need to take a good hard look in the mirror

Ms3tjt2h ago

Yeah I forgot Xbox is separate from Microsoft and Xbox borrowed the 69bn from Microsoft, and Microsoft didn’t get COD, Candy crush etc in return 😂😂👏

jwillj2k49h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot8h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody9h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast8h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19797h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 23h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 9h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere15h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin20h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere15h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow57m ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere15h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX1d 12h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 11h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 9h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 9h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii20h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno18h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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