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Microsoft tightens its grip on the Xbox One, with new rules for developers

"Microsoft walked back on restrictive provisions it had put in place for the sale and distribution of new games for the Xbox One, but now it’s added a new rule that limits developer access to Kinect."

Utalkin2me3973d ago

What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone.

r1sh123973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

MS need to sack don and get someone like peter moore back, he was passionate about gaming.
Don mattrick is making decisions that are clearly hurting MS - its like he has not understood how DRM was a massive bullet in the foot.
Kinect as a mandatory for the X1 is also another missile in the foot, and now not opening up that particular part of the platform to get better by 'hackers' and stay at home devs.

Man Ive lost all confidence in MS, they need to pay peter moore some stupid money to come back to save this situation, Don has destroyed any good work that has been done.

JokesOnYou3973d ago

Wait so keeping something proprietary that you've spent a ton of R&D money on is now evil...whats wrong with paying micro to use something they created?...or use another motion camera...or make your own but don't cry because a business isn't giving you something for free.

Utalkin2me3973d ago

@JokesOnYou

First off i would like to know how you get me crying out of my statement. Or maybe i hit a nerve cause i am speaking the truth, so you felt the need to act like a baby and try to justify you comment by so called "throwing salt in the wounds".

There is no wounds here. I don't buy Ms products and will never buy MS products period, going forward. I was making a comment on a common business practice that MS likes to do in all aspects of their divisions and not just the xbox one.

nosferatuzodd3973d ago

When you think about it, this is actually in response to the “spying” accusations. If only licensed developers can use the hardware, they can at least partially assure the world that it’s not being used for illicit purposes.

If just any third party can release a game that uses the Kinect, then it’s possible they could misuse it.

Microsoft’s PA office really needs to better explain this. Either that, or this site is misrepresenting the facts.

ShwankyShpanky3973d ago

@JOY: Did MS cancel some big Kinect giveaway? Because I would assume people would need to buy a Kinect to hack it or develop for it. Where is anyone asking to get something "for free?"

And that still doesn't address the lock-out of other third party peripherals.

SilentNegotiator3973d ago

More proof that Microsoft doesn't know what they're doing.

Seriously, putting the squeeze on indie devs in this day and age? REALLY? Right as indie development hits its stride?

guitarded773973d ago

@ r1sh12
Right on about firing Don... What they really need is some new blood in there. Some real devs with business sense to head up the place. Their iron fist mentality isn't going to cut it.

GrownUpGamer3973d ago

@Utalkin2me
"What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "

What is embarrassing is how SONY likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Samsung likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Apple likes to nickel and dime everyone.

What is embarrassing is how Panasonic likes to nickel and dime everyone.

BattleAxe3972d ago

What they need is a Google or Sony executive to take over the Xbox division, because the mentality of the people that run that company is terrible.

thechowderp3972d ago

@jokesonyou
its not the fact we have to pay for stuff, but a lot of there stuff is crap. why would i pay for gold when it doesnt offer me anything, unlike ps plus? why would i buy a motion control gimmick when im never gonna use it? why would i buy an xbox one when i could get a ps4 $100 cheaper? why would i buy an xbox one when most of their "exclusives" are on pc? why would i get an xbox one if i already have a cable box?

GrownUpGamer3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Utalkin2me send me a private message with this:

"Some people like to nickel and dime consumers more then others. I don't have to name names cause we know. "

His comment is/was this: "What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "

My opinion is that should have been this: "What is embarrassing is how MS LIKE MANY OTHERS likes to nickel and dime everyone. "

Imalwaysright3972d ago

@ jokes. Kinect is hardware and when we buy its 100% our property. We have EVERY RIGHT to hack it as long as it isn't done with the sole purpose of doing something illegal. Now instead of buying we are licensing hardware and we can't claim ownership of the things we trade our money for.

Raoh3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

What is embarrassing is how MS likes to nickel and dime everyone.

LMFAO. What I find funny is for years I've been saying this and that once MS felt they won the console wars that their arrogance would surpass any of nintendo, sega or sony. I've been semi anti MS since well before the xbox was ever conceived and got called a hater. Now all those friends who called me a hater want to change the subject when I bring up the xbox.

Only the newer generation must be surprised, this has been Microsoft 101 for the past 20 years and probably longer.

With steam providing linux support for games I may just go PS4/Linux and drop windows all together finally.

The only reason they were nice to developers and gamers this gen was to shake the failure of the first xbox and beat sony so they could charge everyone for everything like they do with windows.

Syntax-Error3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

I said the same thing a month ago. Don Mattrick is killing the brand. Peter Moore had more vision and appeal. Don needs to go. I dont want to Xbox fail, but this guy is making them look really bad to the public. I am actually buying an X1 and PS4 at a later date, but I am disappointed with the decisions he has made for the company so far. Phil Harrison is not that much better. He was the douche bag that launched the PS3 and you saw the negative publicity that received as well. Same scenario...overpriced forced to reduce price tag twice within a year. HORRIBLE VISION

combatcash3972d ago

@ utalkin2me

You state that you don't buy MS products so I'm not sure why you're commenting here since it doesn't affect you in any way. Most companies nickel and dime apple,Sony,Microsoft and so on it happens its another way for them to make extra money.

Mounce3972d ago

You think the Xbox Team are the kind of people who instantly pick up a penny once they see it on the ground and they start going: "MINNNENNE...MEINNEN MINE!! THE PRRECCCIOUUSS"

Sounds conceivable.

Kurylo3d3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

And the hits just keep on coming. I mean i gotta say microsoft really is a big joke. This guy is clearly one of those buisness guys who looks for every way to make money, but he doesnt look at the bigger picture. He doesn't realize that his ways of making money in fact make them lose money. He really is just arrogant as hell. Losing many many potential customers. If u wanna charge people to use kinnect which most people hack to do free stuff with.. not sell stuff with.. well then ur going to stop people from buying the kinnect all together. The free stuff was the reason to buy the kinnect. If it aint free to use then screw it.. u just lost money from potential purchases of the kinnect cause u decided it wasnt enough that they just buy it, they need to pay to use it. Dumbest buisness practice ive ever seen.

Have they not learned anything from apple? Apple only owns 10% of computer markets because they wanted to keep it all to themselves. Iphone is falling fast and falling hard.. record timing.. because apple wanted to keep it all to themselves and lock it up tight so u cant install whatever u want. At the end of the day if u dont learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. One of the things that made windows great was its open nature to developers... vs apples "all mine" mentality where you were forced to use apple OS. They are forgetting their roots.

NukaCola3971d ago

I remember when MS banned loyal xbox gamers after they modded the internal 360 fans to run faster because of overheating and that RROD issue. People who didn't want to buy a 2nd or 3rd console but stuck to the brand. Oh how MS screwed those people too. MS is a pretty terrible company at their heart.

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Why o why3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Its a pity for those who actually care. . . I'm not going to complain or act like I've been wronged because I give zero fs about kinect past not wanting it.

In regards to the 3rd party peripherals, its a shame but not surprising ms want to maximise profits.. They tend to overcharge because they know their customers have few alternatives. . . Just look at the hdd's as an example.. Its the ms way, nickel and dime dons

minimur123973d ago

I used to follow MS, im a PS gamer, but nevertheless I'm a gamer and follow gaming news. But I've given up on MS now, never visit their website unless their's something to blog about on their site. They've made a right fumble of themselves, and I can't believe there's still some fanboys out there supporting them.

You know, my friends MS fanboy arguement is
'Yeah, but MS had Bill Gates behind it, so therefore its great'
I reply with
'You may not have heard of him, but Shuhei Yoshida is the biggest G of all time.'

hellvaguy3973d ago

Ps4 is mandatory online charges. Vita has proprietary memory cards. They are all guilty of maximizing profits.

With that said, is MS more guilty of it than Sony? I'd say yes to that, but then you'd have to acknowledge both are more greedy Nintendo.

kewlkat0073973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Yes, Everybody tries to maximize profits in their own way...Sony, Nintendo, MS, Didn't Sony take away Linux for similar hacking reasons..

Tres213973d ago

kewlkat has a point when a company gets worried about some1 exploiting there product they take steps even a small company would & with everyone worried the kinect is gonna go all skynet on em its not really a surprise. i was kinda of excited tho 2 see what homebrew was gonna come from the new kinect tho cuz i saw some crazy thing i never thought of from it that i hoped would of gotten used in games but they may just make a new kinect 4 pcs so who knows heck even ms doesnt kno cuz they could change there minds later

YNWA963973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Minimur12, that is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Are you that sad? These are what you people talk about? Shlt, you people need help. No hope with the ladies.... You idolize a person for this? Christ the future is bleak if it's people like you.... Good help us all, it's just video games.....

Gribblegrunger, well said, nice to see things as they are. Some comments here really shame all gamers, of both stripes.... Bubble for you, from someone who prefers Xbox, but buys all consoles...

SilentNegotiator3973d ago

You should care...since the Kinect is functionally ATTACHED the system.

Unless you don't care about the Xbox One itself.

Imalwaysright3972d ago

I don't want to hack kinect but this is MS telling us what we can or cannot do with our property. This is MS going after OUR rights AGAIN.

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LackTrue4K3973d ago

Now, you have to pay. The likelihood that the same awesome homebrewed artistic applications for Kinect 1 — the ones that made it a viral phenomenon and brought a ton of good press to Microsoft — will be developed for Kinect 2 is now basically nil. That’s the issue here.

slazer1013973d ago

Correct me if i am wrong but once there patent runs out on the kinect technology won't third parties be able to develop for it without MS permission? I don't know, that's why i am asking.

greenlantern28143973d ago

Unless they renew their patent.

Utalkin2me3973d ago

You have a patent for 5 years. And it is very very rare to get a patent renewal.

fermcr3973d ago

Honestly... it looks like Microsoft is intentionally trying to make the X1 fail.

MRMagoo1233973d ago

I really honestly dont think they need to try.

Elit3Nick3973d ago

I don't understand the negative response to this, the kinect is MS's product, they are simply preventing people from hacking it like they try to prevent people from hacking the xbox.

Utalkin2me3973d ago

Then why so expensive for the SDK kit for PC?

Elit3Nick3973d ago

Because it also contains the software necessary for the kinect to be implemented for developers.

ziggurcat3973d ago

once hackers get their hands on an xbone, they'll be able to hack it anyways, so...

GribbleGrunger3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

I'd call this spin to be honest. People keep talking about maximising profits as if that's the only possible reason. And yes, the PC version of Kinect is more expensive, giving MS a better revenue stream from enthusiasts. But the one thing that I'm seeing overlooked here (and probably because people just want to be negative) is the fact people were worried that others could hack the Kinect and spy on you. For me, this is why MS have done this. It makes it more difficult for such a scenario.

I'm a Sony fan just trying to keep it real

vikingland13973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

@GribbleGrunger
That's a good point about spying.

Captain Qwark 93973d ago

My bad, I hit disagree but meant agree. Everyone on the net just complains about everything ms. If they fuck up, they complain. If they fix it, they complain. If they take a step in the right direction, they complain.

Hicken3973d ago

That was a stronger point when the system needed a frequent connection. Now that the system no longer needs that, the spying issue is really rather irrelevant(not that it couldn't still happen, but it's far less likely).

GribbleGrunger3973d ago

@Hicken: Regardless of that dact, it makes sense for MS to put peoples minds at rest on such an issue. Come on people, you all know by now where my loyalties are (although I consider that an odd word to use to be honest) but we can't just shoe-horn every damned piece of MS news into a negative category. It devalues anything we say when we DO have what we consider a legitimate gripe.

ShwankyShpanky3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Apple likes to keep things proprietary too.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/...

slazer1013973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

@GribbleGrunger. I agree with your logic about MS reasons for making it more difficult for hackers. But one issue I think people over look is that they should not be worried about MS spying on you but the American government. All data if any they keep from the kinect can be subpoenaed by the secret court of the NSA under the Patriot Act. I don't think MS would spy on there customers. But the US government would. All they have to do is label you a terrorist. And yes I live in the US. If anyone thinks it could not happen is naive.

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Garbanjo0013973d ago

I am getting tired of these articles, everything MS does is just stupid. PS4 all the way, give me FF15, GT6, GTA 5, The Last of Us, Destiny and I'm set.

YNWA963973d ago

When PS3 was hacked, Sony threatened all out war on hackers. MS simply say Kinect is not an open unit no more. You tell me which is more evil? Oh, but Microsoft is pure evil, I get it with you loser fanboys...

HugoDrax3972d ago

Exactly! Just like Sony fanboys say "Screw MS give me Destiny" hilarious how all of a sudden Bungie is such a great company, but if Destiny was MS exclusive Sony fanboys wouldn't care for it lol. Fanboys are such a joke lol.

CrossingEden3973d ago

wait wait, so not allowing hackers to hack your device is what passes as embarrassing, they don't want random people hacking it and made it more accessible -_- wow, so terrible

CRAIG6673972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

How exactly, if anything it's to make sure every tom, dick and harry don't exploit kinect for inappropriate uses.

TBONEJF3972d ago

It's too late anyway what's the point when everyone got SOO TICKED off at them with their expensive price tag THEY don't support USED GAMES

Cueil3972d ago

this article is effing stupid... the connection on the Kinect 2.0 for the Xbone isn't USB 3.0 that 399 is for the Kinect 2.0 for Windows with the SDK software... people are stupid

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BrunoM3973d ago

It looks like gamer input and people in general actually did make Microsoft change a lot when it comes to their policies and how they go about them ..

Good!

-SIXAXIS-3972d ago

Yeah it made them change their used game policy, but they just restricted smaller developers even more than before by denying them access to Kinect...

1trillindividual3972d ago

I think they want somebody to hack it, then give them a job to learn how to use it or make it better, the government does stuff like this all the time. Even Google paid somebody 1M to hack it so they can make their services better

EPiCDiNGO3973d ago

I am so upset that Microsoft are doing this. I will not support this company any longer and I have been a 7 year member of Xbox live and play the console almost daily.

maniacmayhem3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Why are you upset? Did you plan on hacking the new Kinect?

vikingland13973d ago

The down side is since Kinect comes with every Xbox One Hackers won't buy Xbox One. Just kidding I think MS has the right to protect their investment that they paid for.

EPiCDiNGO3973d ago

It is not me who would be using the Kinect but the way they are not allowing third party developers to do things with it. Look at the iPhone when it come out with the basic applications it was nothing ground breaking imo and then once they allowed third party devs to release things on the app store only then did we start to developers making innovative applications to use the features of the phone.

InTheLab3973d ago

Without modders hacking things, there would be no L4D or Portal. MS should support the community that will bring new ideas to the platform instead of pumping out dance central and TV: The Game

Skate-AK3973d ago

Maybe he means the part about third-parties having to buy their license to make hardware for the machine again.

nirwanda3973d ago

I think it's just their attitude in general to small devs and other creative small scale projects,
This is how people learn to program at home or at uni.
Also if you want something unique it's usually to risky for a big dev to throw a big budget at so MS are stifling small unique games.
So while you may he may not be directly affected indirectly anyone who buys an xbone is.

maniacmayhem3973d ago

It's funny because I see nothing but hate towards Kinect and how everyone hates motion control games. But this is a big deal to people?

Developers will still be able to get the SDK and develop for the Kinect 2. MS is trying to put a cap on the hacking for it's new peripheral.

Simple as that.

Redempteur3972d ago

@maniacmayhem

Maybe , just MAYBE he has lot of USB periphericals that won't work on the xbone ?

If i'd had bought a 600$ sterring wheel and it wouldn't be compatible i'd be angry.

-SIXAXIS-3972d ago

@maniacmayhem: You're correct, but remember that the modding community is what made Kinect popular in the first place. By denying them access to the new Kinect, they're effectively cutting off their main source of new software ideas and innovation for the Kinect.

@Redempteur: What are you talking about? He never mentioned USB peripherals anywhere...

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ScubbaSteve3973d ago

Shall we place bets in regards to how long it takes for the kinect to get hacked? In reality you might as well make it PC compatible because they're not going to stop the type of person who wants to develop kinect applications for PC.

gamertk4213973d ago

If stopping people from hacking their own product is the thing forcing you to leave, then good riddance.

Salooh3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

I'm with you on this. Vita should be more open too. Why create something with so much potential and then just lock it -.- . It's just stupid. Therefore , I rather see vita hacked then see it in this condition. It's not like we are getting serious games in it. If it's hacked more people will buy it and enjoy it.

There is another way , they can take advantage of it by locking just the games and the security stuff. PS vita made mobile section which is great step to openness but i don't see any innovation in it. No programs :( . Vita can be much better then iphone. Same with kinect for who have interests in it. Kinect not for serious stuff though..

Manic20143972d ago

Just to make thing's clear, MS is not restricting third part dev's they are restricting third party outfits meaning they will restrict those whom try to use the kinect motion sensor to build their own similar product which makes use of the kinect aspects. Similar to what was done during the OG kinect release

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slutface3973d ago

M$ mind is so scattered. I have no words.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 15h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 8h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 6h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 5h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC20h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 21h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 9h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC19h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 4h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d ago (Edited 23h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 14h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 7h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 23h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 23h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 4h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 7h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1823d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 16h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere2d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 16h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX3d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 11h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno3d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno3d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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