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Opinion: Microsoft's Reversal of Xbox One DRM Policy is Good for Consumers, Bad for Gaming

In a shocking move, Microsoft has reversed the DRM policy on Xbox One. This is seen as a good move for consumers, but what does it mean for the games industry? It seems like this move will hold back the gaming industry for a while, unless alternatives are found.

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TheLyonKing3979d ago

It's all software as Microsoft are showing so that means web the world is ready for always on stuff they can re add it easily.

As for drm I am glad it has been done away with and hope we don't hear about such controversy again.

romancer3979d ago

The main point of this article appears to be: "I think that a lot of publishers will design games to be used online heavily, which was a major trend seen at E3. Games like Watchdogs and Titanfall thrive on online interaction, even in single player mode. Another thing they can do is incentivize digital versions of their games; give gamers a reason to buy online instead of on disc. From exclusive in-game items which cost the publishers nothing, to slightly discounted prices."

In other words, there are ways for publishers to advance their interests in a more subtle and seductive manner. MS, at least, was trying to address issues that are not going to go away. As the need for physical copies of games declines, and digital sales increase, the same issues that provoked controversy in recent weeks will return and will need to be dealt with, rationally.

lowlight3979d ago

I think the main point was that DRM of some sort may be needed to keep the industry alive, but Microsoft's attempt was too strict to use today. So other options will have to be used to make the transition lighter

Honest_gamer3978d ago

getting people to buy games online is easy heres an example
store: £39.99
PSN: £49.99

do you see the problem here? online was made out to be cheaper as they dont have printing, packaging and shipping costs to take into account but for 90% of the games that come out, its dearer, if publishers wnat to be over greedy let them fail for all i care, if EA or Activision where to fail due to over pricing games it would send huge shock waves through the industry and people would have to start selling there games cheaper or risk it happening to them, but games cost so much to make now that its almost silly now much some AAA games cost, again they need to reel in their spending, instead of letting games drag on and on for years draining up resources just cut the game, and hold people responsible for blow 100m on a game that last 5 hours.

EffectO3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

They can't be cheaper even if they wanted to,Gamestop would just say fuck you,order less new games and under cut them with $5 cheaper used.

They don't want to lower the prices though,digital on consoles is designed to rip-off people.Good thing that console industry is about to collapse soon.

oof463978d ago

@EffectO: That's the problem. Publishers and console manufacturers are beholden to retail.

I agree with the first half of your post.

SpinalRemains3978d ago

Hold back the gaming industry?

The gaming industry is a hundred billion dollar industry.

This generation was fantastic and millions of ppl rented and purchased used games.

Just stop lying and showing big publishers as victims.

Here's an idea. Maybe the successful publishers will be the ones who employ the best developers.

Veneno3978d ago

Holding back the industry? My god those people are idiots. If The last of Us is "holding back the industry" with its offline gameplay then take me back to the stone age cause that's what I want. Quality games. Guess I'm just a simple mind.

creatchee3978d ago

@SpinalRemains

Tell THQ about the 100 billion dollar industry. Oh wait...

Sayai jin3978d ago

Wrong. It's was good for gamers and the industry. MS had a bad policy in the DRM and this would have spread through the industry like a cancer. The industry will do just fine.

fsfsxii3978d ago

Where are the xbox fans calling the X1 names like its the "FUTURE"
I wanna know what they think now about the DRM removal.
I'm pretty sure the industry would be fine if MS hasn't joined

Honest_gamer3978d ago

if they hadent joined i would think that it would be in a better shape, they wont have to spend money making multiple version, dev kits, licenses and all that BUT then again microsoft farts out 50m a time for timed exclusivity so then again maybe it would be worse for the smaller publishers that need that cash.

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CoLD FiRE3978d ago

I'm one of the people who were looking forward to buying an Xbox One but now that they've changed to the 1998 model of disc-based gaming I'm not as interested as I was at first. By reversing their policies now the industry is gonna be held back for the next 10 years because of all the whiners who don't want to get with the times and want to live in the past.

Anyone who wants to keep playing disc-based games for the next 10 years are nothing but luddites. They're no different than those who complained the original Xbox required broadband internet for online play and wanted dial-up instead.

fsfsxii3978d ago

So, people defending their rights are considered moaners and bitching?? WTF?? Restricting my rights is considered innovation?? Removing DRM is a step back?? WOW!!
I have nothing to say.

Imalwaysright3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Yeah i want keep building MY library of games. I like owning MY games without having companies telling me what I can or can not do with them and I'm not going to apologize for it. If you don't want disks just download games to your HDD. What is stopping you? Are you so stupid that you don't realize that you have options? Is that it?

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188123h ago(Edited 23h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2314h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos4h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb333h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled19h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies7h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k423h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot22h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon615863h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

RNTody22h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead12h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage5h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast22h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197921h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage5h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 23h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 13h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 4h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 10h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 4h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow14h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 4h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow14h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney9h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 23h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 23h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 9h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 8h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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