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Has Microsoft Gone Too Far ?

Will consumers be able to overlook the outlandish restrictions Microsoft is planning on imposing?

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dedicatedtogamers3985d ago

Consumers don't know what DRM means, but they surely know what "you can't trade in your game" and "please wait 15 minutes while we install" and "Error: please reconnect to the server to continue your game" mean.

All of this anger online is just a blip compared to the resulting outrage when real people - especially unexpecting people - buy this thing, bring it into their homes, and realize how restrictive it is.

komp3985d ago

A lot of people think it means

"Dont Resent Microsoft"

Cam9773985d ago

That'll be hilarious. They deserve it though. I'm sorry, but if they haven't conducted some research then they deserve all they get - it's just like me buying a DVD without a player - just like the XBONE needs internet to play.

Come launch this will be hilarious, the outcry from unsuspecting parents who bought their 9 year old the XBONE for their COD child. They get all they deserve.

Playstation's slogan really does reflect what they do. Where the XBONE could mutate gaming, the PS4 preserves the traditional games console.

Long Live Play

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SexyGamerDude3985d ago

Edonus, you are an idiot and no doubt about it that you're a shill.

rainslacker3985d ago

@edonus

We saw a lot of uninformed consumers care about SimCity when DRM prevented them from playing the game. It wasn't actually DRM in the way MS was talking about, but it's the same principle.

I believe EA got a handle on that now, but the first few weeks had a huge number of disappointed customers saying they didn't know anything about the online requirement.

These were average consumers. People who just expected it to work based on their prior experiences with the series. These are the same kinds of people that dedicated is talking about.

When these people get home and don't hook up the internet right away, or don't have it at all...boom...disappointment they can't play their game.

When these people go to trade in their game for a new game, they either get crap trade in values, or can't do it all....boom...disappointment they're stuck with something they don't want or don't get enough to buy their next game.

When their internet goes out for a couple days, or they decide not to pay their bill because of something...24 hours later...boom disappointed they can't play their game.

When they ask their friend to borrow a game...boom...disappointed they can't because their friend informs them that they're unwilling to trade because of the lock out.

I could go on about all the disappointing scenarios that could play out here. One or two times probably would go unnoticed, but if you multiply that to a large install base of uninformed consumers, things get said, people get upset, and the disappointed "vocal majority" comes out in waves to let that disappointment known.

This is the point that dedicated is trying to make. We, right now, are a hugely vocal minority, but when the majority start to get disappointed it's going to be worse. We can only hope that during that time they don't blame the whole industry, and put that resentment and disappointment where it truly lies, and that's with MS.

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amiga-man3985d ago

M$ is not a company that has gaming at its heart, it is an ends to a means they want to control the living room and do not care what it takes to do so.

Unfortunately they have become arrogant and totally lost touch with what console gaming is about and for some reason thought their usual spin, advertising and a few games would be enough for users to just accept any anti consumer nonsense they put forward, thankfully it seems most gamers seem to have demanded better apart from a few fanboys that try to defend M$ actions.

For the sake of gaming just say no and keep gaming in the hands of gamers.

minimur123985d ago

funny thing is, my friend said to me ' I want to get the new xbox one'
I Told her about the restrictions, 24 hours DRM and sh*t and not being able to lend games

now she wants a ps4

latincooker2143985d ago

tell your friend good move. PS4 FTW:)

a_bro3986d ago

Yes. they went full retard. you never go full retard.

Godmars2903986d ago

They're only concerned with a specific segment of the market. Just have to wait to see how badly that effects them. Or not.

sashimi3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

M$ doesn't seem to think so, i wonder how long they'll keep going.

badkolo3985d ago

my concern is this, as a gamer i want both to succeed and will enjoy both since wii u just inst happening for me right now. I see this drm thing in a few ways, as a older guy i simply dont care as i dont share much, rent or buy used and being able to share with 10 people makes up for all of that but I can see many many devs secretly smiling and hoping this works out for MS and I also feel they are pushing for this silently and in turn might favor MS over sony for doing this for the industry and in turn give them more exclusives, dlc and timed exclusives and maybe even better versions as a big thank you, its a plus but also a big minus if that happens as i dont wanna go through another whole gen were ps4 multi games are not as good as xbox one was even though now they are using the same gfx cards

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18815h ago(Edited 5h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

SonyStyled1h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

jwillj2k44h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody4h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast3h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 18h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 4h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie19h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere10h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin15h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere10h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Hereandthere10h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

OtterX1d 7h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 6h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 4h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 4h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii15h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno13h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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