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Is Polygon really anti-Sony?

After seeing Phil Koller gave The Last of Us a 7.5, I knew a wave of anger was headed towards Polygon. Oh was it ever. Accusations of being on Microsoft's payroll and low balling Playstation exclusives flew left and right. So, I decided to investigate.

I combed through every playstation exclusive game they reviewed. Each title is followed by 3 scores: The score Polygon gave the game, the Metacritic average and then the lowest score on Metacritic, just to show the range of scores. Here are the results.
Guacamelee: 9.0/84/6.0
MLB 13 The Show: 8.5/87/6.0
God of War: Ascension: 7.0/80/7.0
Papo & Yo: 6.5/72/40
Soul Sacrifice: 6.5/77/40
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time: 6.0/75/60
LittleBigPlanet Karting: 7.0/73/40
Black Ops: Declassified 2.0/33/10
Persona 4: Golden 10.0/93/80
Silent Hill: Book of Memories 4.0/58/30
Assassin's Creed: Liberation 6.0/70/50
Ni No Kuni: 6.5/85/50
New Little King's Story 6.5/70/50
Ratchet and Clank: Full Frontal Assault: 6.0/63/45
Starhawk 6.5/77/60
Tokyo Jungle: 8.0/74/30
LittleBigPlanet Vita: 9.0/88/70
Sound Shapes: 9.0/84/60
Dyad: 9.0/82/60
Gravity Rush 7.0/83/60
Datura 6.5/57/40
Resistance: Burning Skies 6.5/60/20
Touch My Katamari 5.0/71/45
Journey 10.0/92/40
Uncharted: Golden Abyss 7.0/80/60
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack 9.0/86/75

Polygon has reviewed 26 Playstation 3 and Vita games. 10 of the Playstation exclusive games were scored higher by Polygon than the Metacritic average. 16 were scored below the Metacritic average. Of those 16 games, 4 were within 5 or .5 points from the average, which leaves 12 games rated below the Metacritic average.

Now let's look at games that were exclusive to 360.

Battleblock Theater: 8.5/85/60
Gears of War: Judgement 8.0/79/60
Halo 4 9.5/87/20
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 7.0/88/45
Dance Central 3 9.5/86/70
Forza Horizon 6.0/85/6.0
Fable: The Journey 4.5/61/30
Steel Battalion 1.0/38/.06
Blood Forge 2.0/42/2.0
Minecraft 7.0/82/55
Wreckateer 6.0/67/40
Deadlight 7.0/68/40
Dust: An Elysian Tale 8.0/83/60
Fable Heroes 4.0/55/30
Trials Evolution 9.0/90/8.0
Fez 8.0/89/70
Diabolical Pitch 4.0/56/30
Kinect Star Wars 4.0/55/30
Alan Wake's American Nightmare 7.0/ 76/50
South Park: Tenorman's Revenge 3.0/52/20

Polygon has reviewed 20 360 titles. 6 were scored higher or on par than the metacritic average, with 14 given scores below the average. Using the 5 point/.5 system we used with playstation games, 1 game is removed from this list, leaving 13 games.

Now let's see what we have:

1. More Sony games rated higher than 360 only games (10 to 6).
2. A higher percentage of Playstation games rated higher than 360 games (36% to 30%).
3. Polygon gave the lowest score recorded on Metacritic for 1 Playstation title and 3 360 titles.

I don't see the bias.

Crazyglues3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

It's not about if they are anti-Sony, it's more about if they are border line stupid as hell...
(this site is doing a huge injustice to people who depend on game reviews to help guide them towards good games)

First you gave The Last Of Us a 7.5 when just about every other reviewer gave the game a 10.0 - Not a 9.5 not a 9. not even an 8.5... they all (which never happens) gave it a 10

-So when your score is so far from the normal scores... (It makes me question your rating ability) -Like maybe you shouldn't even be rating games... you clearly are clueless...

If a room of kids take a math test and 9 kids get the problem right, but one kid gets it wrong.

You don't start thinking the test is too hard, instead you tend to think one kid is not learning right - he/she needs extra help to get it.

Same problem here, there is no test to see if you should even be rating games...Are you smart enough to understand a normal logic test.

Clearly Polygon can't - and whatever there process is, it's seriously broke - how can every other site that plays the game see it as a 10.0 ( - http://cdn2.gamefront.com/w... )and you have it as a 7.5

That tells me something is wrong with how you are reviewing games. Your that one kid in the math class who doesn't get it. (A review should use common sense, and have logic) - In the review he says he's upset about the violence being exposed to the little 14 year old girl... uh hello, did you forget it's the end of the world. (the game is about how everything would be if these were the last days, end of the world as we know it because of the infection)

So you think everyone will be all nice in the last days, and go next door and say oh, "excuse me, do you have any milk because we ran out 3 weeks ago and I was wondering if we could borrow some" - "oh your all out, ok, well thanks anyway"...

I mean what is wrong with these people it's the end of the world as we know it, of course it's going to be violent and it's going to be hard as hell to survive. Wake-up it's not a fairytale go free the smurfs game..

It's about the real effects of a society being broken after an infection spreads world wide... I mean if you couldn't get that from a game named The Last Of Us, I really don't know how to help you.

(And Polygon is a site I would not go to for a review on any game, clearly they suck at reviewing)

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oof463986d ago

"First you gave The Last Of Us a 7.5 when just about every other reviewer gave the game a 10.0 - Not a 9.5 not a 9. not even an 8.5... they all (which never happens) gave it a 10"

Of the 60 reviews on Metacritic, twenty-nine sites gave it a 100 and 31 gave it a score of 98 or lower, so, no. It wasn't 100 across the board.

Let's go back in time and look at Shadow of the Colossus, which is a much loved ps2 game. The highest score is 100 and the lowest score is a 60. Does that make the reviewer who gave it a 60 wrong? No. It just means that is the score he feels the game deserves.

Let's change mediums and look at movies. The Dark Knight was widely hailed as the greatest comic book movie when it was released. On Metacritic, it has a bunch of 100s and a lowest score of 50. Does that make the reviewers who gave it a 50 dumb? Or that they don't get it? Of course not, it just means that's how they viewed the movie.

"In the review he says he's upset about the violence being exposed to the little 14 year old girl... uh hello, did you forget it's the end of the world. (the game is about how everything would be if these were the last days, end of the world as we know it because of the infection")

Either you took one line and expounded on it or you didn't really read the review but are repeating what others have said. The reviewer mentions that it was satisfying to successfully sneak by enemies so he didn't have to expose Ellie to any more violence than needed...that's it. That's all he said about it. He did not say anything negative. What detracted from his experience was AI partners walking in front of enemies, but they don't get alerted and shaky shooting mechanics (which he did mention improves with upgrades). But what detracted from his experience were the parts where sneaking wasn't an option, but he was forced to fight waves of enemies, because it didn't jive with the mechanics that Naughty Dog established through out the rest of the game. Does it merit that much of a deduction? I don't know because I haven't played the game, and neither have you.

Crazyglues3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Ok I'll agree to disagree, no disrespect to you, you have a very valid point, it is the reviewer view point...

-But at what point do we say this does not make sense... So I give a movie that get's 10's across the board a 2.0 -Is it possible I missed what the whole movie was about..

And yes in all fairness, I should not call them dumb, but I just meant it brings your review into question, because it's so far off..

but ok fair enough I see your point - I don't want to call them dumb, but I seriously question that review - We will see when the game comes out.

Nice Blog post by the way.. It's a great discussion - I disagree but it's a good point you make.

We will how well that review holds up when I've played the full game

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McScroggz3986d ago

I get what you are saying, but there are reviewers and publications that, be it a specific genre or just in general, are not fair and consistent in their reviews.

Let's take The Dark Knight, for example. The movie has several 50 scores, and quite frankly it's hard to understand how somebody could score the movie so low. I understand people have differing opinions, but as a professional reviewer I should feel confident in your knowledge and taste/objectiveness if you are more harsh/lenient. Say what you will, but TDK simply is no where near a 2.5 star/50% caliber movie and it's hard to take those reviews seriously.

But, honestly I think movie critics in general have become very pretentious and overly critical when there IS a difference between critical analysis and a review. But that's not the point.

As for Polygon, it's not that I feel they are biased. To me I simply don't feel confident in trusting Phil Kollar's reviews. His criticisms TLOU review were either very nitpicky (which he even cited) or seemed strangely hollow like the notion that he felt bad for some of the actions he did. I would hope that a reasonably intelligent game journalist/critic/reviewer would understand how feeling bad for committing an act in a game about a post apocalyptic world is an impressive feat and shows the great writing and characterizations of the game.

He was the same person who scored Ni no Kuni a 6.7, and while I felt his review then had many of the "oddly nitpicky/hollow" criticisms apparent in his TLOU review, I'm willing to admit that he was simply too harsh and not the right person for the review rather than call into question his actual ability to review games.

That's my problem, at least. The text, and how he lauds many aspects of the game, simply does not fit with the score nor does it make his opinion seem credible. Biased? No. A good review? No.

Crazyglues3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

@ McScroggz

I agree with everything you said..

I'm just going to say this I think everything Polygon does is suspect.

-As other users have pointed out there are a lot of things in-question when it comes to this site./ -But Naughty Dog did the right thing and said, "everyone is entitled to there own opinion"

-And I agree- so I'll take the high road and just say -Good Review- No! -Not even close.. in my opinion.

Will I go to this site or listen to anything else they have to say ever, No.. (they lost all creditability with that review)

I don't like to waste time on things that are stupid - Life's just too short... In my Humble opinion.

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HammadTheBeast3986d ago

7/10 for The Last of Us

9.5/10 for Dance Central 3

Shows what their standards are.

oof463986d ago

10/10 for Journey and Persona 4: Golden. Yes, we see their standards.

coolbeans3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

You're cherry picking reviews between two games in separate genres, different price points upon launch, and what kind of controller is required for them to function.

Very poor comparison.

Thabass3986d ago

You have PS4 in your signature. Whole post is now invalid.

dedicatedtogamers3987d ago

I can only speak for myself, but I don't call Polygon "biased" because of their reviews (they're just trying to be EDGE-y and make a reputation for themselves being the tough guys). I call Polygon biased because of their coverage of the Xbox One. Since Adam Orth #dealwithit, Polygon has been a mouthpiece of Microsoft PR. They're done nothing but give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt, they've spun bad news, and when it comes to the WORST bits of news, they report it but don't give any opinion on it (which they do plenty of times on other games/topics).

Capodastaro3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

You show me 3 articles about Polygon being a MS news buffer and I'll show you 3 articles which do the same for Sony.

All you seem to do is just cherry pick articles to what fit your needs. Your latest blog shows it, you use an article which just accuses MS of bad practice... Accusations needs proper backing up which you neglect to do.

Besides nobody likes MS, but you seem to be extra butthurt about something, spreading misinformation doesn't help.

moegooner883986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

It's not like they are so desperate to give MS the benefit of the doubt, to the extent that they would rush an article without even going through the available info first, and then lying by stating that the available info has changed, even though it has been the same since MS published it ... oh wait

http://www.playstationlifes...

TongkatAli3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

Gamefaqs is Anti Sony and have an greater effect then Polygon. You can't say one good thing on that site about Sony.

I'm exposing that shit cause it's over 9000 in trolling over there and its not from MS fanboys, LOL.

Christopher3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

What I notice with Polygon is that they take big titles/franchises, and score them harder than any other franchise out there.

PSN and XBL games tend to get the best quality reviews and scores attached to them. On disc, major franchises tend to get lambasted.

Why? Because those major franchise games will be more discussed than the others and people will click their reviews more if they rate them harder than they do other games.

There are only two exceptions to this rule from your presentation: Gears of War and Halo. All other major franchise releases scored below average.

So, here's the list you should be looking at:

God of War: Ascension: 7.0/80/7.0
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time: 6.0/75/60
Ni No Kuni: 6.5/85/50
Ratchet and Clank: Full Frontal Assault: 6.0/63/45
Starhawk 6.5/77/60
Uncharted: Golden Abyss 7.0/80/60

vs.

Gears of War: Judgement 8.0/79/60
Halo 4 9.5/87/20
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 7.0/88/45
Forza Horizon 6.0/85/6.0
Minecraft 7.0/82/55
Alan Wake's American Nightmare 7.0/ 76/50

This is more a case of them trying to judge major franchises more harshly. And, to me, that's not a fair representation of the quality of said games in comparison to the collective.

Side note: The 20% score for Halo 4 is just plain ridiculous. I mean, others are as well, but that one stands out to me as a horrible review. 2/10 game represents a game with massive flaws and bugs in it. That is not Halo 4.

HammadTheBeast3986d ago

Agreed. A completely broken game is a 2/10.

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Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More

Microsoft has closed a number of Bethesda studios, including Redfall maker Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks, and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda, IGN can confirm.

Moegooner1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Hi-Fi Rush studio??? Seriously?? Goes to show quality matters lil to MS.

Worst gen ever. All big 3 battling are for who sucks the most. They just keep one upping one another.

-Foxtrot41m ago

This does feel like a “quick Sony is getting shit on for Helldivers, let’s announce it now to minimise impact”

thesoftware73031m ago

That is silly. Let's say there is some weird conspiracy. This announcement would effectively take ALL the attention away from the HD2 situation, especially since there is no longer an HD2 situation. I don't think anything will minimize this impact.

Tacoboto23m ago

... so they announce it on a Tuesday? 36 hours after Sony cleared up everything?

You people care more about the next conspiracy than anything else.

Nevermind that Sony followed the golden rule of minimizing impact by announcing horrible news on a Friday.

Eonjay22m ago

The constant weekly weird Sony drama is part of the industry's problem. Everyone else feels they can get away with murder. Also, what is the point of spending all that money if you just start shutting studios down. And... Redfall wasn't Arkane's fought. Microsoft new the shape the game was in but needed something for GamePass after a whole year of no releases into the service. Them taking it out on Arkane seems really disingenuous and distasteful. And WTF did Tango do? Didn't Todd just release a statement saying how he would never retire. Fire his ass.

romulus2317m ago

Well if that was the reason for the timing it didn't work.

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Einhander197233m ago(Edited 29m ago)

10/10 deflection, the ol' Sony too deflect...

Let's not discuss the fact that PlayStations struggles have largely been caused by the fact that game pass has reshaped how consumers spend causing them to spend less as they play what is on subscriptions and don't buy games as much because they either have become subscription gamers or they fear the game will come to a subscription so they don't buy things.

And it's not just PlayStation, the whole industry has been effected, many big studios are struggling across the board to match sales targets from pre-game pass releases which is especially apparent in things like sequels.

Heck the best example was Microsoft's own Starfield which should have easily blasted past 10m sales by the end of 2023 going by sales of similar Bethesda games yet was only able to achieve 3m which of course was almost entirely on Steam.

Moegooner28m ago

Or maybe it's because Sony hasn't released multiple worthwhile SP games like they normally do each gen and the ones they did released actually sold well.

Layoffs aren't because studios are struggling, but because major publishers want to maximise profit gains.

Profchaos25m ago(Edited 23m ago)

Absolutely it's a service that's changed the way we view and consume games overall for the worse games have little value when they are part of a sub and become disposable doubly so if they are a day 1 freebie often it's the kiss of death for a game to be day 1 on gamepass as PlayStation players look at it like why do I have to pay 60 dollars for back 4 blood, payday 3 or outriders it'll be on PS plus soon enough and funny enough those games always fail to meet expectations sales are poor and longevity is poor.

When I see a game get a day 1 tag outside of first party my first thought is always something is wrong with it and it can't stand on its own feet so the publisher has made a deal to recoup development cost.

Even first party games have dropped in quality noticeably so since gamepass with gears 5 being the only good release I can think of since gamepass started

Nitrowolf214m ago(Edited 14m ago)

This is what people online want. They just don't know or understand it. So many have warned about consolidation, and exactly what they have fear has been happening

This isn't the end, expect more bought out studios to be closed in the next few years

shadowT1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Tango Gameworks and Arkane?

RaidenBlack29m ago

Arkane Austin (Prey developer)
Not Arkane Lyon ( Dishonored developer)

Einhander19721h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Well xbox fans you got what you asked for... and honestly deserved...

It was so easily predictable that game pass was never going to be able to support all these studios.

If Microsoft can't win they are going to burn it all to the ground...

Countdown to Phil Spencer telling us "it's better for the gamers this way" yet again.

Relientk7755m ago

This is beyond wrong. Like wtf!? Especially Tango Gameworks with Hi-Fi Rush. I've heard nothing but good things about that game. Just because Arkane Austin screwed up one game release doesn't mean you need to close them. It sounds like they were forced to do a multiplayer game when they're a single player studio. They could have made a Prey 2 or some other game next.

Just wow awful news.

Einhander197231m ago

Apparently PlayStation owners didn't buy enough copies of Hi-Fi Rush...

romulus2312m ago

"Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements" amid rumors of poor sales. Following rumors that Tango Gameworks' Hi-Fish Rush didn't meet sales expectations, Xbox marketing VP Aaron Greenburg is defending the "break out hit" as a success by all metrics."

According to Aaron Greenburg it was a success so they shouldn't have even needed PlayStation owners to buy it. That being said, I bought it and really enjoyed it, it's a great game. Shame MS closed them down.

RpgSama0m ago

@Romulus23

All lies by the Green Bug, that just means that a lot of people fired bullets or whatever in the game, that's the key measurements they care to share.

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game.

CrashMania28m ago

I can only imagine the little amount of revenue both games generated, sent straight to gamepass and excluded from the largest current gen console userbase. Not to say both games would have done well if they were on PS5 too, but you heavily damage to a games revenue when you put it on a stagnating sub service for a poorly selling console, can't really see people going out in droves to sub to GP to play this.

RaidenBlack26m ago

Yea Austin made one of the most creative game of last gen with Prey and were forced to take risk with Redfall and now the whole studio is being closed.

Aphrodia3m ago

Yes, that Tango gameworks/ Hi-Fi closure was an eye opener for me as well. Neither played it nor was interested in it myself but all I heard was everyone acting like it was the second coming of guitar hero or something.

I don't know what else to say other than modern gaming is an overwhelming sea of mediocrity and there's not enough voices of reason speaking up and saying that most games made these days are just not very good.

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CrashMania53m ago

Can't wait to see the usual try spin and play this down. So much for the heroic MS and Phil saving these studios eh.

Eonjay28m ago

By the end of the day IGN will be talking about how this is right for the industry. Don't worry, Microsoft's PR is making the call now.

PrinceOfAnger23m ago

Not a big deal only hi fi rush was good

Sony has closed
Manchester studio
Japan studio
Pixel opus
London studio
Ready At Dawn ...

RupeeHoarder19m ago

The difference being Sony has a large group of other studios that have done something positive. Microsoft just closed the studio to the only good game they released in the past year (Hi-Fi Rush).

CrashMania10m ago

They all suck as well of course. But MS spent 10s of billions on these publishers for mass consolidation, every made a song and dance about how MS would save them, using their endless Windows, 365 and Azure money to keep them open forever and how Phil was some hero.

Nothing is safe unless it makes money, even for MS.

romulus236m ago

It is a big deal.

Microsoft has closed
Fasa Studios
Digital Anvil
Ensemble
Lionhead Studios
Press Play
Arkane Austin
Tango Gameworks

Tacoboto18m ago

Phil needs to step down. What kind of usual spin do you want?

More and more people lose jobs but the people at the top stay the same. Hardware sales tank despite billions and billions spent. The math is plain and simple.

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