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The cold truth: PS Vita sold less in one year than the PSP in 1 month

the Vita has sold about 1 million units in the US since its launch a bit more than 1 year ago. The original PSP had sold 1.12 million units in the US in the month of December 2005 alone.

Wii U's sales are also disappointing

Donnieboi4031d ago

Could a price drop, combined with PS4 functionality and the drastic reduction in memory card cost help turn things around? I hope so. So far, i'm happy with my Vita, as PS Plus has been good to Vita owners.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II4031d ago

Its such a shame because its an amazing handheld , the best ever imo it has custom music every game, party chat , trophies and decent browser and big clear screen, it just has so much potential for good long single player games and rpgs ect

tubers4031d ago

VITA;

Potential = insanely high
Implementation = sub par

Hopefully KZM turns quite a few heads. Then there's still E3 around the corner (I'm kinda getting tired of saying E3.. E3..).

ToZanarkand864031d ago

It doesn't support custom soundtracks in every game unfortunately...
Dead or Alive 5 Plus, WRC3 and Persona 4 don't support custom soundtracks...

Axe994031d ago

@ tubers

I have to disagree there - Uncharted and Gravity Rush were two of my favourite games last year, and they were up against a bunch of PC and PS3 releases. The Vita is, imo, the best handheld gaming device yet made, with a great range of games (it's limited compared with the PSP, PS3 or 360 of course, but that's what you get).

The big issue is that developer support dropped off heavily after launch, but Sony have been drumming up indie and other dev support to turn this around, and we're starting to see the fruits of this. Given the thing's barely a year old outside of Japan, it's doing very well as an entertainment unit - it's just consumers aren't biting. No idea why, everyone I know who's actually handled one, loves it - indeed, I'd wager a lot of the sales at the moment are positive word-of-mouth over the top of rubbish reporting on the internet.

ThanatosDMC4031d ago

Soul Sacrifice demo makes me buying a Vita day 1 worth it. Cant wait for the actual game release.

Sucks that some video files cannot be played on the Vita anymore after some updates. My xvid collection got screwed.

kreate4031d ago

@Thanatos

'Sucks that some video files cannot be played on the Vita anymore after some updates. My xvid collection got screwed,

Wtf? o_O;
that sucks

Yi-Long4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

... it's got dual analogue sticks, OLED screen, pretty powerful specs, etc etc.

It's even got a bunch of very good games which should be worth playing.

The problem ofcourse is the stuff it does WRONG, like the memory-cards issue, where you're forced to buy/use expensive memory-cards which can only be used for the PS Vita.

Implementing touch-controls where they aren't needed or wanted.

Ports of console-games COULD be great, but they do need to be WORTHY ports. I would have LOVED to have played a great looking new version of Ninja Gaiden Black, but the PS Vita port was pretty mediocre, possibly the worst version of Ninja Gaiden 1 to date, and it was missing the option for the original voices, which automatically means it's a big no-no for me. No buy!

Same goes for other great games that get released with a dub-only. One of the reasons people like/love Sony, is because they stil bring out typical Japanese games. Persona 4 and Disgaea are good examples. But while Disgaea does offer the option for the original voices, Persona 4 sadly doesn't.

I might have already bought a PS Vita if they had gotten Persona 4 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma Vita right by including the option for the original voices, but sadly they didn't bother...

... so why should I...!?

Also, one of the major reasons why the PSP sold very well, is that people could 'mod' it. That just skyrocketed the hardware-sales, cause suddenly a much larger crowd was interested.

Regardless of the question if that was good or bad for 'the industry' or the PSP, the fact is that it DID help sell a whole lot more PSP's than they otherwise would have sold!

Insomnia_844031d ago

I wish there was a game like Demon's Souls on the Vita.

delboy4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Wow, I never knew Vita is such a fail. /s
I mean, look at those graphics, dual analog, great screen ect.
Look at all those games; Uncharted, KillZone, LBP,it's hard core pure, why people don't buy it?
Must be because of smartphones and tables. /s

Deamon Soul's can't save the Vita, there's no game that could save the Vita, not even Jesus himself could save it.

mamotte4031d ago

The real problem is Sony trying to sell it as a "portable PS3", and then trying to get a version of every popular and selling into it.

They need to get the poor console over the shadow of the PS3, give it REALLY exclusive games, using all the unique potential of the Vita.

To make it short, it needs more games like Gravity Rush and Little Deviants.

freezola754031d ago

Homer concurs good sir...

booni34031d ago

Unfortunately, it doesn't support custom soundtracks in every game. I agree with almost everything else you said though.

nix4031d ago

i want to play every PS3 game on vita. it's like that great.

Satirical4031d ago

It's good tech for sure, but the game line-up is sub-par.

I think the biggest problem is that most people own a PS3 already and Sony has kind of advertised the Vita as a portable console that can closely emulate a console experience. But like I said, most people have the PS3 for that.

Sithlord-Gamble4030d ago (Edited 4030d ago )

Mispost.

Kevin ButIer4030d ago

I wonder why this handheld is struggling at sales? Is it a price matter, no enough games, faulty mkt campaign... I just don't see any compelling argument.

Dee_914030d ago

@delboy
I dont think you get the concept of sarcasm.I take that back, its obvious you dont

OT
Theres a number of reasons PSP sale/ sold better than PS Vita. For 1 price & the economy, and 2nd the date of release.Back in 05 the buzz around next gen (current gen ) anything was much greater than it is now (graphical and technical leaps from last gen to current is larger than the leap from now to next gen). So if the technical leaps from ps3 to psv was as great as it was from ps2 to psp, then chances are it wouldve sold "better".

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BullyMangler4031d ago

nnyeahh i dont know . .the prob is the joysticks of malplacement and design of the vita

MasterCornholio4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

LOL

That problem is with the 3DS and not the Vita. Theres nothing wrong with the Vitas controls but on the other hand the 3DSs lack of a second circle pad hurts it.

And even Nintendo admits this fault by creating the CPP (circle pad pro) accessory for it.

3DSXL
http://chipsandnews.files.w...

3DS
http://maturegamerpodcast.c...

Video
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

CaptainN4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Master...first off the Circle Pad Pro came out before the Vita even launched, so even though it was an add on, technically the 3DS was the first portable to have dual joystick set up with that addition.

Next,I honestly don't see it being major problem for the 3DS considering hardly any games even utilize the second stick option, yet the system sells like crack, and the 3rd party support is all over the place.So obviously the lack of a built in second joystick means nothing to the consumers as well as the developers.

So while I'm sure it would have been nice to have it built into the system, it didn't cause a lack of games to be developed. And lets be honest,we all know the next portable after 3DS that Nintendo makes in a few years will have it.

And when that happens you know damn well Nintendo will market that little addition and everyone will go out and buy the new portable.What can Sony do on their next portable besides improve graphics again....exactly!

PeaSFor4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

yet the justin bieber sells "music" like crack, but is it good?

sales dont represent quality.

if something is popular, it doesnt mean its automatically good.

btw, the CPP is a nice way to say "we fucked up with the original design of the 3ds, here's something half-assed to ghetto fix our mistake"

dcbronco4031d ago

The DS outsells the Vita because of it's legacy. It's a machine that has mass appeal. When the DS first launched and had games like Brain Training and Sudoku non-gamer adults started buying tons of them to use on mass transit. Now brand recognition still gets some of those sales and mainstream is a huge market. Gamers may hate to hear it but going mainstream equals survival as prices increase. As we move past PS3 power in a handheld we move toward multi-million dollar budgets. You need all of the sales you can get then.

CaptainN4030d ago (Edited 4030d ago )

@ Peasfor so you said "yet the justin bieber sells "music" like crack, but is it good? sales dont represent quality. if something is popular, it doesnt mean its automatically good."

Well first off to all those millions of girls who buy JB cd's yea the music is good, that's a matter of opinion and taste. Maybe to someone like you or me its not good.....but that's out personal opinion and that is not a fact!

Next with the sales argument...when something sells alot, that pretty much means its a good product so I don't know how anyone can dispute a sales correlation with a good product. Again your using your opinion in saying people buy "bad" products because everyone else is. Over time people ran out and bought things because they were products that they enjoyed, therefor they were good (Cabbage Patch Dolls, Tickle Me Elmo,Tamogotchi, Gameboy, PS2, Wii, Iphones etc) all sold well because they were good products that people wanted and they provided enjoyment and fulfilled a need.

As for the additional Circle Pad Pro being a scapegoat for a mistake....if that was the case wouldn't Nintendo be supporting it with all their future software? Wouldn't they be selling it in all retail stores(Only Gamestop and NOA website sell it) and wouldn't the 3DSXL have had it built in to rectify this mistake? And why wouldn't they just include it in the box to "fix" this mistake with all future 3DS sales?

Come on, if your going to be a blind to the obvious, then there is no point in even trying to justify how the 3DS messed up but the Vita has not. At the end of the day, like it or not, its all about sales as that's what these companies are looking for. They make these products to make a profit. Nintendo is dominating and Sony isn't and that's a fact!

And btw, how's that dual analog setup working out for the Vita? Oh that's right, there needs to be software that actually gets put on the system and uses it.....sorry the software is in another castle!

Sithlord-Gamble4030d ago

CaptainN ... you come across as the biggest Ninbot ever.

The DS/3DS sells bc KIDS play it. Kids don't care about the 2nd analog stick. They don't care about any of the crap that gamers care about ... bc they're KIDS.

I would never game on a 3ds personally or a Wii or any of it. Its not for me. BUT guess what my go to console/handheld is when it comes to buying for my children ... you guessed it ... bc its for KIDS & the games are kid friendly.

Nintendo is synonymous with Family Friendly ... THATS why it sells.

So get off your high horse & pull your head out of your @$$. All of your rebuttals were some of the dumbest reasons I've ever read.
Stop hyping the 3ds like its some technological marvel ... bc its not.

All it is, is a quality handheld that has an automatic user base ... KIDS.
There's plenty of em around ... and new customers are born every minute around the world. Children are built in income when it comes to toys which is all it is.

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DEATHxTHExKIDx4031d ago

I personally dont see how remote play makes me ppl want to buy a vita.

nukeitall4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Exactly!

The platform is another dead in the water, similar to PSP Go. I remember the hailing of the second coming of Christ named PS Vita at E3, then subsequently in the news at the great price point.

The supposed 3DS "was" going to get destroyed by the almighty Sony. Turns out, it couldn't have been further from the truth as Sony consistently has poor management.

Reality beats fanboy imagination again!

That is why I wonder about the PS4? Similar situation at least right now....

Sounds great, but execution beats imagination.

animegamingnerd4031d ago

yeah the things like cross buy and remote play aren't a system seller for me exclusives are and right now there really isn't any vita exclusives i am interested in

JayD-1K4031d ago

@ nuke,
the only thing that saved the 3ds was the price cut! Nintendo knew the couldn't compete with the Vita spec wise so, the droped the price. that got everybody thinking that, Sony should have droped the price of theVita too! and when they didn't, the first thing peple started saying was, it was too expensive.
now don't get me wrong, i still think the memory cards are out dof wack when it comes to price but, until some of brwnd can make them for cheap, this is what we got.

Mustang300C20124031d ago

Pretty ignorant comment to think JUST a price drop has saved the 3DS. He'll the price drop for the Vita in Japan only helped for so long. Now it is back to selling at pre price cut levels.

wishingW3L4031d ago

let's be real @Mustang300C2012 , 3DS was dead and it was revived with the price cut. The system went from $250 to $160 in less than a year!

kayoss4031d ago

The problem with vita is price, regardless of what you think and feel about the vita it's a powerful machine and worth the cost. But one major flaw, a handheld should not cost more or the same as a ps3 console. You have both costing $199 which would people pick? Of course the ps3, it's worth the money, large game library, bluray, etc...
A few other problem is Sony releasing major vita games on the same time frame as other blockbuster console games. Most of these awesome games had no chance against console releases. Sony need to strategize the vita game releases so that it has a chance.
Memory card is a major problem, cost is killing it.
Other then these major issue I think the vita can do very well if the problems are fixed. I have not heard a vita owner complained about the quality if the vita.

Dan_scruggs4031d ago

Yeah its nonsense.
Here is the comparison.

WiiU Delux edition - Off screen play with packed in game is 370.00. Where it currently stands on Amazon right now.

OK so to match that with Sony products you need this.

Playstation Vita - 250.00
Vita Memory card - 100.00
Playstation 4 - Expected to be 350.00 to 400.00
Average Vita game is 40.00
Average PS games is 60.00

It's simple math.

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BattleAxe4031d ago

I'm waiting for Killzone: Mercenaries like alot of people, but I'm also interested to see if they provide an upgraded model with HDMI out. Lowering the price of the memory would help too.

user76939584031d ago

I love KZ but there is not a big market for the PSP..
Sony should quite and stick to consoles and cellphones ..
maybe make a special version of their phone mix with PSP alike capabilities once in a while to be used as a extra controller anywhere at any time.

today handle market are for kids and some teenagers plus Japon..
It need to be cheap in price ($199 max) games need to cost no more than $30 for new games at max and they need to make games for kids, teens and jrpg ...
Nintendo understand this and is doing well.

abc12334031d ago

It probably will, we've seen how a simple price drop changed things in Japan. Sony are already heading in the right direction with PS+ for the Vita and with the PS4 launch I'd be surprised if sales don't pick up. Naturally some more exclusives should help a great deal too.

torchic4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

people need to get this notion that PS4 connectivity will somehow lead to more Vita sales

people who want a PS4 will go to the shop and buy a PS4 and that's it. it will most like cost around €400-€450 and then to add another €250 to that is just not feesible for most people, even if it's a year or two down the line.

a price drop and more games will definitely help but PS4 connectivity is not the answer.

dedicatedtogamers4031d ago

Platforms these days are simply too big to fail. Sony cannot afford for the Vita to NOT sell decently. You think it's in Sony's best interest to let the Vita die?

Of the games that are already announced, I know I'm getting Soul Sacrifice, Muramasa Reboot, Tearaway, Killzone, Dragon's Crown, and Toukiden (if it comes West). And this is BEFORE E3, which will surely bring more games to the table.

Conzul4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Vita is undeniably a good piece of hardware, but it left a sour taste in my mouth. I BOUGHT it because cross play was advertised as a feature, and WORKS FINE when the PS3 had CFW. The capability is THERE, but NOOOOOO, Sony goes and does what they do 2nd best, and removes features right at or around launch. %@#$@#%!!

A better camera and a meatier battery wouldn't have hurt either. If Sony made a Vita MKII with fixes like that and 4G and stuff, THEN it'll take off. (with some new US marketing)

dedicatedtogamers4031d ago

@Conzul

Your complaint about cross-play is legit. It's actually why I'm hesitant to jump on the PS4's cross-play hype. Cross-play was originally advertised for the PSP, if you can believe it! And then it was promised again for Vita, and now Sony promises to "finally get it right" for PS4? I'll believe it when I see it.

SilentNegotiator4031d ago

Plain and simple, Sony f***ed up.

They aimed too high with power (making it too expensive), they didn't do any sort of monitoring/monetary encouraging of its initial software allowing garbage like COD: Declassified (which otherwise would have been a major seller), they didn't make it incredibly portable, their marketing of it has been very weak, etc, etc, etc.

Vita could have been popular, but they handled it completely wrong. I can't believe the way that the 8th generation is stumbling in like a drunk with only 3DS selling (and only because of a MASSIVE price drop). How did Sony and Nintendo manage to forget/ignore basic principles of making successful game hardware?

GraveLord4031d ago

Memory cost isn't the problem. Cost-of-entry is much more important. A simple price drop will do great things for the system but it needs to be paired with high-profile game releases. Preferable one with a hardware bundle.

Knight_Crawler4031d ago

I read some comments on here and funny how no one has mentioned the real reason why the PSP 1 sold so great...homebrew PSP and free games is the number one reason why alot of people bought the PSP 1.

Until someone jailbreaks the VITA sales will not take off like the did with the PSP.

Murad4031d ago

I would buy a vita, but to be honest, I'm still not done with my PSP games, or even my 3DS titles; so, I mean, it feels as if Sony launched it on the wrong time in all honesty, rather than anything else.

darthawesome904031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

The real problem is there is not a continuous flow of good games. There are a few good ones but most tend to be re-releases or too similar to console titles. The problem is that there are not really any AAA "only on the Vita" games worth while. People not really going to spend $250 to solely play games that are nearly identical to their console counterparts.

Gamers keep complaining of a lack of creativeness this gen has brought around and constant pushing of sequel after sequel (COD anyone?) and not coming out with anything new.

I am not trying to say don't release COD, Uncharted, Killzone, etc. on the Vita. What I am trying to say is I see these games and I find myself feeling like "ehh I already played it, pass" (called game fatigue). Does anyone remember when the 1st Mass Effect came out? Crysis 1, Halo 1, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Golden sun 1? All these games had one thing in common. They all brought new experiences that made people buy the new console/PC/handheld just for that new experience.

Sony come out with new creative games and keep them flowing = success.

Dj7FairyTail4031d ago

not gonna help.
PS3 was bundled with Vita nd all that other stuff still didn't help.

Cross-Buy is not helping either.

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Majin-vegeta4031d ago

Just thought i put this out there.Best buy has the 16gb memory card for $30.so if u need space now is the time to buy.

sashimi4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Whoa thanks for the tip, been wanting a larger memory card than 4gb.
EDIT:ugh no shipping and no stores around me that i can pick it up, another useless bb deal for me X_X

profgerbik4031d ago

Target price matches. You need to learn to be more Savy.. and if you don't have a Target then think of something else that might do the same like possibly Walmart.

Prophet-Gamer4031d ago

@profgerbik

Doesn't Target only price match if the competitor has it in stock?

whoyouwit044031d ago

Dam, and people say this handheld isn't dead on arrival. you know I do like the vita, and really think it's a shame it's not being appreciated for what it is. However, this just goes to show you Sony fan boys that power doesn't equal success.
I know a lot of you automatically think Sony wins next gen because rumors says PS4 is stronger then 720. well, history says hello.

sherimae24134031d ago

do you even know what youre talking about?
yeah history says hello!

do you even remember about the ps3? about its early years
im sure you knew, its now ahead of your favourite 360
no games? it has now tons of it and will be continue to supported even the ps4 is out

and the psp, a system they said that is already dead since 2009 but look at it, it keeps on selling and still has games coming for it,
(brs this month)

and now vita.... you guys have never learned, patience is virtue
we all know sony systems since the ps3, always had a slow start but will continue to keep on going for a long time,
the ps2 just only retired recently, that is an example of long term profitabilty which other companies do not have

can you explain what happened to xbox when the 360 came out
or the ds when 3ds came out? and the wii when the wii u came out?

whoyouwit044031d ago

The fact that I would have to explain my comment to you shows you don't know your gaming history.
How many time in gaming history has the most powerful console won it's generation? and that was the point of my statement.

"do you even remember about the ps3? about its early years im sure you knew, its now ahead of your favourite 360". I will believe that when I hear it from Sony them selves. Give me proof where they said it and I will shut up about it, Until then it's just wishful thinking on from you Sony fans.

stage884031d ago

@sherimae

Well said!

@whoyouwit

You're an idiot, learn your history, we're not going to do the work for you.

joeorc4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

i would say do not even bother talking some common sense into people. The memory card's in the first place would not be that high or made unique to Sony's system with no easy card reader if what happened to the 1st PSP with software sales and than software support drying up. Because of Hacking and UMD dumps!

funny how this STORY was posted from a HACKER'S WEB SITE!

but..but Nintendo's , yes Nintendo's Handhelds get pirated software quite a bit more than Sony's but here is the thing.

Sony's software is not seen as more viable in the handheld market as Nintendo's. and software sales are what matter's. to 3rd party developer's when the 3rd party developer's software get's umd dumped , when its more pirate copy's in people's hand's than there is really sold copy's asking for yet another project to be made and asking venture capitalist to pony up yet more money for your software to be sold but get pirated quick. what do you think the answer will be?

yet here we are low sales but still the PSVita is going to keep getting software support, its not about how many they can sale vs what Nintendo is doing right now, because really Sony is the only real dedicated Game console portable to even give Nintendo a run for this market. Hey how many do people think will the WikiPad sell. or how about the Nvidia shield?

Tell you what, do you really think Sony is that choked up about a market for mobile gameing when they sale over 10 million xperia smartphone's a sales quarter, with playstation Mobile?

the PSVita is a choice for gamer;'s to have than just Nintendo alone in the dedicated mobile game handheld space, where's Microsoft's dedicated portable?

Y_51504031d ago

Yeah I remember what happened to the DS when the 3DS came out. It was getting way more support than the 3DS. It had a Pokemon game released for it!

You got everything right until you said that buddy. :P

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sherimae24134031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

no, my point is like you said in the 1st place, or a lot of people says that vita is dead on arrival? seriously?!

and you know that sony systems have a longer lifespan than any other system they still support their older system even when the successor is out,
still your not answering my question and keep avoiding it, what happened to the xbox when the 360 came out? same goes for the ds and wii when their successors came out?
i think you know the answer......

and about the ps3 surpassing the 360, do you really visits various gaming sites, you should already know the answer to that question.
and when the next xbox came, i wonder what will happen to the 360
hope they still support it, no?

@good_guy_ jamal below...

not only your brain is like a coconut... you even rarely use it
did you even get what i have said, not even in the slightest?

smartphones will never outperform dedicated gaming handhelds
smartphones are for casuals, if you are gamer and looking for quality games and you chose smartphone over 3ds/vita then you are nuts

but still like many other says smartphones is really competing against handhelds in mobile gaming, 2006 is different than 2013 in terms of mobile gaminv even the 1st iphone is not that competent at that time

i think you know how many psp and ds have been sold until now right
even the 3ds is struggling in its 1st year and only until now before it finally recovered the vita and the wii u is also in that stage, add the bias media and you will get a doom and gloom articles
like many of us said, just give these systems their time

sorry for being rude jamal, i just have... ^_^

NastyLeftHook04031d ago

history says ps3 sold more than 360 bud.

lizard812884030d ago

And the Wii sold more than the PS3 and 360, but the Wii is FAR from powerful. Quite weak and pathetic if you ask me, but it sold like hotcakes.

lizard812884030d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It does seem the most powerful console doesn't always win. Granted, when this video was posted here on N4G, people said it was wrong because of Sony.

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Good_Guy_Jamal4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

"Vita has sold about 33’000 units last month in the US, as reported by ArsTechnica. By comparison, the 3DS reportedly sold about 7 times this amount." O__o !! I have no words. Vita getting a beating by the 3DS.
It's said the Wii U is selling similarly to the 360 and PS3 during their respective release months so I don't see why people are dogging it.

What has changed? Why is the Vita doing so horribly compared to the PSP?

sherimae24134031d ago

you know jamal your head is like a coconut....
when you open it... its empty just only its juices leaking out....

when the psp and ds came out, they are the only handhelds competing at each other. they are advance at that time
no iphones no tablets no smartphones or any other sleek mobile gadgets you see today

at that time, when people saw the psp for the 1st time, they are wowed by it, you can even research from various sites if you want to... about their impressions in the psp at that time

the ps vita is in a different situation today, not only it has a lot of competitions (3ds, tablets, smartphones etc.) but it also had its own issues like the price of the memory cards and some people waiting for price drop just to grab a vita....

but i do think this issues will be solve this year, sony knows what to do in regards to ps vita, all we can do is wait and be patient ^_^

Good_Guy_Jamal4031d ago

Firstly, why would I want to split open my head? Secondly, the brain is 70% water so yeah okay.
Lastly, only liquids leak out of something so I'd imagine that only the juices would leak out.
Lastly, weren't people laughing when analysts suggested smartphones would pose a threat to handheld consoles? Also, didn't the iPhone launch during the PSP's era? 3DS has sold over 20 million units in this same harsh environment.

R00bot4031d ago

Well, the 3DS is doing just fine despite the competition from non-gaming companies, it was even going better than the DS at one point!

M-M4031d ago

"you know jamal your head is like a coconut....
when you open it... its empty just only its juices leaking out.... "

LOL.

BosSSyndrome4031d ago

Dude, the iPhone came out only 2 years after psp. The 3ds manages to have sold 20 million in counting in spite of the tablets and smartphones of today. The market is not the only factor here. Vita is too expensive, memory is too expensive, few games, and barely small enough to even be classified as a handheld.

WalterWJR4031d ago

You had me laughing and got my agree when you said jamals head is like a coconut, jamals trolls all things Playstation.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4031d ago

Reality is, Vita is doing bad due to a lack of software support and a high price point. Anyone who says otherwise probably owns a Vita and is trying to justify a bad purchase.

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FamilyGuy4031d ago

Psp launched a year before the PS3, the PS3 launched with the iphone, the Iphone didn't have a substantial gaming and app store at launch, it built up over time.

The Iphone was no threat to the psp when the psp launched.

All that is somewhat pointless though seeing as the 3DS is doing just fine in this market. The main thing holding the Vita back is its price during these hard (compared to 2004) economic times, point blank, period.

profgerbik4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

That is a complete load. Times may indeed be hard for some but it doesn't stop the majority of society spending money stupidly like they always have as history constantly repeats itself.

You can't say people are hurting that badly when I see 6 year old's with iPad's and iPhone 5's that their parents bought for them.. You can't tell me parents can't afford a $250 dollar gaming system but can afford $600-$700 phones and tablets with expensive monthly plans attached to them for their kids..

That is just ridiculous and it isn't even kids, most teens and even adults who can't even afford their own rent living on their own will have a fucking iPhone 5 before they pay their damn rent. I don't know how many of my stupid ass friends that are always talking about how broke they are but then have every god damn Apple device there is.. You are broke as shit but then you are spending all your money just to be trendy?

Anyway point being having a empty bank account isn't stopping idiots from spending their money frivolously. You and everyone else complaining about the Vita's price are seriously just making up excuses for yourself.

On top of all the opportunities there have been to get them on sale in the US. You can still find bundles that are price cut.. it is just a big steaming load people are acting like it has been so difficult.

You want to complain about the memory card prices, that I can understand but the Vita itself is literally worth every penny. I don't regret spending what I did at all on it, the best real portable gaming device in the world currently not something that just plays Android games..

No one complains how the 3DS XL goes for $200 when hardware wise it doesn't even compare to the PS Vita or isn't even a big jump from the 3DS or DS even, so for the extra $50 bucks you sure are getting a crap load more in the Vita.

How fair is that also when the 3DS has another version? The PS Vita is currently on its first and only version, there hasn't been a revision to say oh the old Vita is cheaper.. like everyone is with the 3DS. Of course the 3DS is cheaper, when the 3DS XL is out and of course the PS Vita will be way cheaper, when a new revision comes out also.

The new Animal Crossing bundle is $219, you can find PS Vita bundle with a game and memory card in that same price range. At that point it is all preference in games, has nothing to do with the PS Vita needing a price cut..

I am not saying a price cut won't help a little but using it as a point against the PS Vita, it has been over used.. They cut the price in Japan sure it did well at first but it really didn't do much.

I don't agree that iOS and Android games are competing with consoles or handhelds but I do think the number of choices people have on what they will spend on does effect them. There is a lot of fancy stuff these days before the most fancy things you knew of were a PC and gaming system really in terms of all that.

Sadly not everyone can afford it all, so some even though they may want a gaming system might just have to choose between that or a phone simply because of how expensive things are now. I don't think it is more of a broke problem just more the fact people have to really prioritize what is more important for them to have at the time.

hduce4031d ago

Not just price. How about lack of games.

FamilyGuy4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Those phones come with service plans that can lower their cost to around $1, the ps vita has no such contract or plan. People would rather pay a $80 monthly phone bill than the pay $300 out the door for a vita. It's much easier to afford.

CBaoth4031d ago

with the rest being water and dense packets of neurons.

But if your brain is 70% water that would explain a good number of your posts!

Ducky4031d ago

Who on Earth told you the brain is 80% fat?

Not only is that completely ridiculous, it's completely wrong as well.

BosSSyndrome4031d ago

nnnnnnooo...
The brain is 80% WATER.

Good_Guy_Jamal4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Ha ha ha ha ha! I don't know what kinda twinkies you've been eating, but if they've turned your brain into 80% fat then you need to lay off them for a decade or four.
Let me lay some interwebs info on your obese brain
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/ed...
http://faculty.washington.e...
http://www.dorchesterhealth...
http://www.essortment.com/w...

I know it seems like alot to read, but your chubby brain obviously needs the exercise.

BlaqMagiq244031d ago

No offense dude but you need to go back to grade school if you think the brain is 80% fat.

CBaoth4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

It's closer to 60%. The human brain is the fattiest organ in the human body. I give you credit for the water percentage. It's a primary component of the brain. But fatty tissue is the best conductor of synaptic functions so I'd rather have a head full of fat than a balloon full water of water!

http://www.rehabchicago.org...

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lilbroRx4031d ago

Wow, this is actually a sound, non-trolling analysis, but people are insulting you and labeling you as a troll for stating it. Its not even really negative. Its just calling a spade a spade.

I see someone insult the 3DS for not having a second circle pad and put it down in front of Vita. Agrees and bubble ups out that rear. You simply compare the Vita to the PSP(which is actually on topic unlike the other one) and they personally attack you without a mod anywhere in sight.

The Sony fanaticism on this site is disturbing....

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Keoken Interactive lays off majority of team after failing to find funding at GDC

Deliver Us Mars developer Keoken Interactive has laid off the majority of its staff after struggling to secure funding …

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mastershredder1d 20h ago

The industry model and standards and who's in place to approve/disapprove have changed ^ what Keoken is feeling now is much like the Mobile burst 15 years ago. Expect more to come out of your own finances. Investors are treating games like movies and now (thank$ a lot for involving yourself hollywood) only the big (and money blind) investors get involved, effectively killing a lot of content that would come out with proper non-gate-kept and/or with incentivized funding.

Markdn1d 20h ago

And when you only make a fraction of your games worth on gamepass you suffer

Tacoboto1d 17h ago

Palworld and Manor Lords are so suffering.

RiseNShine1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Sorry but i couldn't care less, Deliver us Mars was as woke game as they come, climate change disaster, all female cast plus only a comic relief indian guy (it takes only 5 minutes into the game for the main female character to say how smart she is compared to the guy), evil white guys, ugly females, then add generic gameplay and puzzles (how many times do you have to cut things with a laser for gods sake), you can't change anything in how the events develop so 0 agency in the story, sub par graphics even while using UE4. So well, go woke go broke, that's how it works.

Miacosa1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

That stinks but with a 68 average critic rating on their games probably made it difficult for people to invest considering there is a bloat of games getting made these days.

ROCKY281d ago

You guys will be back with team strength and funding !

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PS5 Was The Market Leader In Unit & Dollar Sales For Q1 2024 And March In US

Mat Piscatella of analyst firm Circana has revealed that the PS5 was the market leader in North America for both unit and dollar sales during not only March 2024, but the first quarter of the year as a whole.

Writing on Twitter, Piscatella revealed that spending for video game hardware in February 2024 dropped 32% in comparison to the same period last year, totalling $391 million. In addition, spending for PS5, Xbox Series X/S and Nintendo Switch each fell a minimum of 30% year-on-year.

Cacabunga1d 22h ago

What will happen when Sony announce a new Uncharted, Killzone, Tsushima or Horizon ..

ChronoJoe1d 22h ago

Ah yes, Killzone that'll light the world on fire.

I'm joking but I do wish it were likely or more popular.

shinoff21831d 17h ago

I'd rather an upgrade over some fps personally. Like a true rpg not some action game with a couple of rpg lite mechanics in it.

Jingsing1d 13h ago

To be fair Sony usually know when to let a franchise go dormant, They gave Killzone over 6 different games and it never reached that summit. You end up in a situation like Microsoft if you just keep hammering out Halo and Gears and Forza etc. Microsoft should be smart enough to let them games go.

Demetrius1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I thoroughly enjoy my open world games, but highest interest will always be the shooter genre lol it's just something about a good well crafted shooter with lore to it something like the Max payne series

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TheColbertinator1d 23h ago

Somehow I doubt all of that spiel.

ravens521d 1h ago

Lmao. Perfect example of the denial.

Hofstaderman1d 23h ago

But PS5 and Switch still outsells XBOX embarrassingly even with overall consoles sales decline.

Giga_Gaia1d 22h ago

At this point, I think PS5 and Switch sell more in one month than Xbox does in an entire quarter...

Ironmike1d 15h ago

Stop being sad mt just enjoy ur console of choice and just accept there's not only ps5 in the world

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Elda1d 22h ago

This is not surprising in the slightest. The song will continue to remain the same.

romulus231d 20h ago

And in other news wet is water.

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AAA Games Will Get More Expensive And That Might Not Be Entirely Bad

Najam from eXputer: "The norm of $60 AAA games is no more as developers now charge more for their games. Here's why this might not be a bad thing for gamers."

Kaii2d ago

*Elden Ring type games, yeah sure. (scoring 8+)
(AAA/quadruple A) slop can shove it up their discounted ass

In recent yrs my purchasing In Indies has increased and its decreased for major IP's because I cba with the lack of innovative gameplay.

Focusing on the topic, why not mention Take-Two CEO getting his pay increased while axing 500 staff? I'm getting annoyed that those practices get ignored by the "gaming" media because ya don't want to burn potential bridges but seriously, gtfo.

fsfsxii2d ago

Im not contesting that triple a games are not innovative, but most indie games are 2D side scrollers with pixel art, fompletely lacking in innovation

CantThinkOfAUsername2d ago

Agreed. 99% of indie is metroidvania, rogue-lites and visual novels.

Sgt_Slaughter1d 21h ago

That shows me you know don't anything about indies if that's the conclusion and generalization you managed.

Tacoboto2d ago

"I'm getting annoyed that those practices get ignored by the "gaming" media because ya don't want to burn potential bridges but seriously, gtfo"

What exactly is gaming media going to do that it's not already doing?

Welcome to capitalism and corporatism - every industry has this problem, it's not a gaming one.

Sephiroushin1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

They can start by saying the price increases is not good especially with all the micro transactions publishers put on games we pay for; but instead they tell people that the price increase on games is actually a good thing 🤦🏻

thorstein2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It's a bad thing for gamers and for in the chair game devs. We just heard of massive layoffs across the industry.

I'd pay more if I read articles about how they were hiring. I'd pay more if I read articles about how the people who made the game scored record setting pay raises and CEOs were no longer given 1 year bonuses that could sustain a small studio for 10 years.

But that's not what happened.

Crows902d ago

Yeah there's only so much people are willing to pay for entertainment. Especially in the form of games at the same time that there are free to play games and cheaper in the titles that compete with triple A. You're not going to be able to keep increasing pricing and get the same amount of sales. I already don't buy games at the new price or even at $60. I wait for $40 or less. And I don't believe I'm alone in that department. If you don't have any other expenses you can probably continue to afford buying games at the top price but many people eventually have other things that take priority and you're just not going to spend it that much money on a video game.

Heck if I have to play one game for the rest of my life I'd probably end up playing Warframe or Counter-Strike. These are all either free games or were paid games and now are free.

The AAA industry is a threat to the gaming industry. They're trying to continue to ride the way and keep increasing prices. They're trying to get all of the money as long as they're able to.

anast2d ago

Good point. I usually wait unless it's a favorite, but there are only 3 publ./dev. teams I can say that about, and 1 out of 3 gets day 1 treatment.

As for F2P, I'm a Path of Exile fan myself. I would just start hitting that hard and wait until prices drop.

Crows902d ago

Path of exile would be an also pretty good alternative. I probably choose path of exile 2 since it'll be fresher and will receive more content most likely. I don't know

I did grow tired of path of exile after a while

Software_Lover2d ago

It's bad. People just want good games at decent prices. Not everything has to be super realistic with 200 voice actors. Look at Palworld.

Ironmike2d ago

Terrible article game prices go up any more u can kiss this industry goodbye

TiredGamer2d ago

The industry will and is already imploding due to double standards relative to prices everywhere else in society. Just as with food, housing, transportation, and other forms of entertainment, costs will increase even if only due to the constant rise in inflation.

Inflation is a fact of our modern world, and is a consequence of normal (usually healthy) economic activity. It is a result of a slow and continuous growth due to increasing money supply, and the complex relationship between consumer supply and demand. Inflation leads to the eventual increase in wages, whether through cost of living increases, yearly increases, minimum wage increases, or a higher demand of workers than there is supply.

The fact that the game industry has managed to keep game prices at or near the $60/70 range for DECADES is amazing in its own right. The buying power of a dollar has dropped in half in the last twenty years, so each year that prices don’t increase, it is essentially a price decrease for the previous year. Think about that.

Part of the problem is that games have been arbitrarily held at such a low price for so long that it has created a psychological ceiling in peoples’ heads that can’t be exceeded. MTs and other schemes have been created to try and mitigate this discrepancy, but those don’t work with every game/genre and have also received their own significant consumer blowback.

If games can’t exceed the $60-70 barrier even though that $70 is economically a lower “true” price than the cost of games even a decade ago, publishers will do what they can to make up the difference before eventually running out of options and exiting the industry.

I don’t like to pay more than I have to just like everyone else, but you have to be fair in comparing price increases (or lack thereof) in the game industry with the price increases across the rest of society.

anast2d ago

..."$60/70 range for DECADES"

This is false. Incomplete games have been this price for decades. For at least a decade or two, complete games have been $100 or more. They sell games as standard version and complete version, but now is some kind of version of deluxe, gold, complete, and ultimate. The tiers tell you that the standard version is not complete. It's explicitly stated. If the 60 game is sold for 70 and doesn't have tiers, micros and live service elements, I understand, but we most publishers aren't doing that.

"Part of the problem is that games have been arbitrarily held at such a low price for so long"

The have been held at a relatively low price, but gaming has never been cheap.

"If games can’t exceed the $60-70 barrier even though that $70 is economically a lower “true” price than the cost of games even a decade ago, publishers will do what they can to make up the difference before eventually running out of options and exiting the industry."

Most publishers need to leave the industry. This would actually be a good thing, but they won't because games complete games haven't been $60 for decades. It's usually $100 or more for the complete games and extra for the live-service elements, which rounds it out to a $50 game in the 80s, plus all of the micros and live-service fees and on top off this games are gravitating to being for rent in perpetuality via digital only releases. I would say they have more than already made up for it.

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

U should work with government mt nobody will pay 100 or even 80 for a game I do t how amazing u think it is that they kept prices down it not sustainable and only thing they kept down is the state they release have these games have
microtranscations this industry is going to hot Brickwall ppl already sick of prices then they release half finished games

TiredGamer2d ago

Everyone should have to study macro and microeconomics in HS so that they understand how a market economy works. I don't really hold college degrees with any reverence, as I feel that many degrees are outright scams, but I have studied economics for many years and at the graduate level. It's fascinating stuff and helps explain so much of the world we live in even since ancient times.

Not sure what you're going on about with complete vs. incomplete games. DLC and expansions are not a requirement for most (all?) games. I rarely buy expansions outright (unless part of a GOY edition) and never feel like I'm missing anything significant. Core games are still "complete" experiences for what they are. The digital landscape has just made extra content more viable. In older generations, when games were not massive development projects taking years to make, a successful game would be followed up with an "expansion" sequel a year or two later. Microtransactions are certainly a way that publishers are trying to pay their bills, and I understand that not everyone needs/wants them. Developers are more apt to make a DLC expansion today because the act of creating a true sequel to a game is just a monumental task. When a sequel is made, it's a whole new multi-year investment and a higher level of expectations.

I've been buying games since the 16-bit era. I remember when R-Type for the TurboGrafx was $69.99 at Toys R Us... in 1991. Most new games were in the $50-60 range. The N64 era commonly had titles ranging in the $70 range. So yes... prices haven't budged in decades, but the dollar has dropped by at least half in as much time. So that N64 Turok game was more like $140 in today dollars.

I don't disagree that some publishers should leave the industry. But the economics of the industry aren't and won't just affect some publishers... it will affect all of them, and it will lead to less risk-taking and a retraction from the blockbuster AAA games we are seeing today.

anast1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

@Tired Gamer

If people need an advanced degree to understand the difference between complete version and standard version, we are all in more trouble than I thought.

Example, AC Valhalla has a standard version, a complete version , and so on. Other companies hide this via other names. It's an actuality. There is not an amount of appealing to authority that can change this.

The fact that you have been doing something for a long time doesn't make your argument sound. This would be a fallacy of which we don't need an advanced degree to know either. If the games have tiers where the complete version is sold at a separate cost, then the standard version is not the complete game. Of course you can play an incomplete game, people have been doing it for decades.

Iron Mike

Your words do not mean what I say is not an actuality. You are not offering any evidence.

TiredGamer1d 4h ago

An advanced degree is absolute not necessary to understand basic tenants of a market economy that have been practiced since ancient times. A basic HS course or even a competent YouTube video would likely suffice.

It's clear that we are now dealing with stoic perspectives and a general anger with the industry trends that are largely out of our/your control. We can argue semantics all day about complete and incomplete games, and we can probably make valid arguments both ways. I will submit that GOY, "Premium", or "Battle Pass" editions of titles do not invalidate that the standard editions are not whole experiences on their own. I won't accept that every bit of DLC, paid or unpaid, is required for me to feel like I have been cheated out of my game experience. If I look at the PSN storefront now and look at God of War Ragnarok, for instance, the standard edition has everything I would expect from a complete game. The Digital Deluxe Edition for $10 more gives me a couple of cosmetic items, a digital art book, the soundtrack, and an avatar set.... this sounds like a "limited edition" set with a few extras to sweeten the deal for true fans, which is a practice that has existed for decades in all sorts of industries. Nothing there is essential in any way to the core/complete game experience.

As far as game prices being far higher (in current dollars) than today, there is no argument. Games of all types have been priced at the $50-70 mark since the early 1990s, and any AAA game today is made on a budget at least 100x higher than those early 90s titles. That's a pretty dramatic statement that needs no explanation. When expectations exceed the capability of the industry to deliver at certain price point, you can either increase prices, reduce quality, or go out of business. You can't go into a grocery store/restaurant and buy a Prime Steak Dinner and expect to pay 1990 prices for it.

anast19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

@Tired Gamer

I agree that people have knee jerk reactions, but we can't let such paint a picture that is not actual. Companies are in the business of exploiting as much as humanly possible, if not then they aren't a successful business. Therefore, it is also understandable that people are going to cry foul when they quote "the economy," something they know that hardly anyone understands, as the main reason why they are asking for more money.

It's always going to be suspicious when billionaires ask for more. I was curious myself after returning to gaming after a long break that spanned generations and I noticed a lot of shady practices and I was actually shocked how all of this stuff is unregulated, such as gambling in the form of loot boxes, cut content sold as "DLC", live-services and list goes on.

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