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Sony Has Already Won The Next-Gen Battle

MadAssGamers: To start off, I just want to mention why we here at MAG believe Sony already has the head start this year against Microsoft regarding games. Sony already has a good amount of successful, 'triple AAA' PlayStation Exclusive Franchises behind them that players have come to love over the years. These Exclusives include the; Uncharted series, Little Big Planet, God of War, Gran Turismo, Infamous, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance and games like Heavy Rain & Journey. Then you have new, upcoming games like Beyond: Two souls, The Last Of Us, Knack, Drive Club and Diablo 3 that are releasing later this year and early next year and could possibly turn into series with sequels. Sony have already announced new games to their Killzone (Killzone: Shadow Fall) and Infamous (Infamous: Second Son) franchises for the PlayStation 4 but we think Sony still has many more up their sleeve that their still yet to announce.

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iNathan4042d ago

Oh wait Wii already Sold 100m Units, Xbox gained 50m users ground and Sony lost 90 gamers in a blink of na eye.

lulz ofc they already win.

MariaHelFutura4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

They didn't win in overall sales, but I think it was the best platform to own for multiple reason. But, this gen in sales, the Wii won, the 360 lost and anything else is just spin. I will say this though, WORLDWIDE they have the most momentum going into next gen and things are looking very good for them atm.

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GribbleGrunger4042d ago

And where did you pull that arbitrary and fallacious notion from? The finishing line is when all consoles of a certain generation are no longer in production. It's as simple as that.

MariaHelFutura4042d ago

Maybe I'm unclear on something, did the PS3 pass the Wii in sales?

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miyamoto4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

We all know how the Big 3 played their cards this generation.

Sony stayed true and committed to the kind of gamers they established since 1994. The core gaming community majority they help build through PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3, PS Vita and the billions of games that has been played on those systems. They help build, unwavering, what makes up this great gaming industry.

Sony and PS4 will always stay committed to their goal of telling the world that video gaming is not just child's toy but also a compelling form of adult entertainment. The evolution from Crash Bandicoot, to Jak and Daxter to Uncharted to The Last of Us clearly shows us PlayStation's progressive principles in gaming providing gamers new and fresh gaming ideas every generation and not just resting on very old franchises.

Sony's PlayStation maintained the respect and commitment core gamers so rightfully desrve and the same gamers gives back the same respect and commitment to the PlayStation brand.

Although the PS3 will eventually outsell the Wii and 360 during its life cycle like the SNES did the Genesis what matters most is how Sony played the game through thick and thin.

Making games is how PlayStation started and its how they will go on and on for the days to come.

T24042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

@gribbleg - pretty sure lila was being sarcastic unless they crazy ...
@ lightbar - well I spose Sony could go down more and sell 20 million ps4 but at this point with all the hype and good lookin quipment id say Sony is on the up swing which is always bad news for nint , ms

hkgamer4042d ago

Lets look at it in a companies perspective.

Nintendo, was struggling big time and needed something big to turn the tables. Wii turned into something crazy.
Every unit sold made Nintendo money but if you look at the average console games attach rate then it probably would be lower then Sony and MS.

MS barely had a presence and lacked many big exclusives the PS2 had. 360 came out with a blast and had the Japanese developers developing for them. Stole a few exclusive franchises, Live was succesful and keeps money coming in. Attach rate was fantastic and gained alot of fans.

Sony lost alot of money per console, lost the fanbase to MS and also lost alot of exclusives. FFXIII, Rockstar games, RE?. Barely touched my Wii/360. Think I still have the original GUI on the 360.

Jaqen_Hghar4042d ago

a man saw Miyamoto pay PS3 its respects. A man believes he sees where this console war is going.

sikbeta4042d ago

Some people just never understand, right?

How Sony is going to win anythig IF MS still didn't show their console... :/

Look at what happened this whole week, people forgot about the PlayStation 4 event and were in full about a damn tweet from some low level employer @ MS talking about some unknow/rumored Feature that caused quite the uproar

Imagine what will happen in the reveal day of the Nextbox... It's going to be freaking HUGE!!!

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Gimmemorebubblez4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

This gen aint over...watch Kuturagi's third console will sell the most when production ceases in the next 5 years. Remember the Ps3 is a marathon runner not a sprinter.
Edit: In my point of view Sony have won me over but Im not sure about other gamers and even I should reserve my judgment for when MS unveils their next console.

Clarence4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

It took more than 7yrs for each Playstation to get over a 100m. PS3 set the bar for what a console should be. Why do you think M$ has switch their tactics from gaming to entertainment.

Genuine-User4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

Wii sold more because it was targeted towards children, parents and grandparents.
Even though Sony released a whole year after the Xbox 360, it has sold more in less time.
Even after the lackluster launch, initial online problems and the infamous hack, Sony still won the current gen HD battle, not only that, Sony is going out with a bang before the Playstation 4 arrives.

Monkeysmarts4042d ago

Assuming everyone who bought a Wii will buy a Wii U is ignorant. Assuming everyone who bought a 360 over a PS3 in North America will buy a 720 over PS4 is presumptuous and ignorant.

We don't know how the sales will shake out, but Wii U is on the short end of both developer support and gamer interest. PS4 looks to be a far stronger platform with a lot more developer support. The assumption that Wii U will do better based on Wii's numbers is pretty asinine.

NobleTeam3604042d ago

You forgot "assuming everyone who bought a PS3 will buy a PS4 is ignorant as well"

TheTwelve4042d ago

This article highlights how Sony really used media to catch Microsoft by surprise.

1. They acted as if they would reveal second.

2. They acted as if they would make an always-online console, which Microsoft would have loved.

Both proved to be red herrings that Microsoft seemed to have jumped completely into and now are caught "with their pants down".

I believe Microsoft is currently scrambling to recover from this. We'll see how they do, but first blood is drawn by Sony for sure.

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T24042d ago

An interesting point ... Not sure if its true but if it is, expect Sony to spank ms hard on sales this gen... And with windows 8 , ms is actually looking at a tough cpl years here ...

TheRealHeisenberg4042d ago

Please explain how this caught MS with their pants down? Got any links or comments from MS supporting that?

ma1asiah4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

@ The Twelve

What makes you think that what you think is not in reverse with SONY showing their cards to early giving MS a possible edge.

Remember this MS have not revealed a console whether it be all about gaming or be an all purpose one stop entertainment media hub. They have not mentioned a release date, they have not set a price point, they have not confirmed whether its next iteration will come in one flavour or a few different flavours. In fact no one knows if it will be released this year or next year.

Everything you have read or seen has been a pure mix of speculation and rumours.

Sometimes being the underdog is a good thing. especially at the moment where SONY is being talked about like some kind of Goliath to MS's David and well we all know historically what happened to Goliath don't we.

At the moment it is best not to count your chickens until they hatch.

MysticStrummer4042d ago

@Bar_Brothers - Way to start off the comments with a pointless point. How can anyone look at what happened with PS2 and PS3, and think the previous generation matters when you're talking about next generation sales? That was Sony's mistake with PS3, and from what we've seen so far they've learned from that mistake.

XBox had nowhere to go but up. PS had nowhere to go but down. Nintendo was the big winner because they made a cheap console and sold a ton of them.

Having said all that, it's waaay too early to declare victory. All we have to go on is the lack of titles that make people want a Wii U, rumors that make 720 sound like something a lot of gamers won't want, and the little information we have so far about PS4. Going by all that PS4 has the advantage, but it's meaningless at this point.

S2Killinit4042d ago

your making an assumption here, the assumption is that it would have been even possible to hold on to the type of market share the PS2 had. But you got to admit that not only did PS3 come back and take the second spot from xbox, but they also delivered the best gaming among the three. If this generation was any indication, PS4 should be the console to have come next generation. Just my opinion.

avengers19784042d ago

PS3 did win. You know for games anyway. More exclusives more new ips, more indie games, a better FREE online experience, and a better paid online experience. If u have plus then you know that free games always wins

AngelicIceDiamond4042d ago

These articles always start out the same.

Sony has all these games.

Sony has a big event, gets the hype train going.

Sony cares about the gamer and what not.

MS is terrible because of the rumors.

MS aren't saying anything they have no games blah, blah.

basically reasons that tell me nothing on how Sony won anything.

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Godmars2904042d ago

And if next gen is anything like last gen - fundamentally broken and uncreative - no one is going to win anything. It'll just be fanboys arguing.

Not that it wont be that anyway.

MikeMyers4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

Sony is getting very positive feedback so far and have the best momentum moving forward with the PS3. If they can price the PS4 competitively and have a strong launch they could take the lead early.

The Wii U is currently struggling and the rumours of the next Xbox are not very positive from a gamers perspective. However nothing is ever a guarantee. Sony had incredible momentum leading up to the PS3 and that wasn't a runaway success. Plus with consumers being so multi-media focused now its very hard to predict.

Don't let the forums fool you, people spend a great deal of time on their consoles doing other things than just playing games than they did last generation compared to this generation.

Godmars2904042d ago

At the very least that the WiiU is as you put it "struggling" despite having a supposedly strong launch line-up, that every other system's launch have been weak, means that launch line-ups mean nothing.

What should really matter is once a console hits its stride how long it can keep if not improve upon it. That's why the 2600, NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 hold the positions they do in the general gamer consciousness, and why sytems like the Dreamcast have more of a hardened "cult" following.

MikeMyers4042d ago (Edited 4042d ago )

What competed with the 2600 at the time? Launch line-ups do have an effect. Imagine a Zelda game or a real Mario Bros. game on the Wii U, those are system sellers. The games they did offer wasn't that impressive. You had Zombie U, a 2D Mario game and NintendoLand for big games. Not exactly breathtaking.Plus Nintendo had a tough time marketing it and what the system offered.

So far all signs are positive for the PS4. Great hardware tailored for game developers, a history with offering games to all ages, excellent relations to 3rd party publishers, a proven online service and great feedback so far. The price could be a problem and if the system launches in 2013 worldwide or not.

The Vita, 3DS, and the Wii U have all stumbled one way or the other. From pricing, an identity crisis, to software. There is no magic formula in today's times but Sony seems to be correcting any faults found on the PS3.

Cupid_Viper_34042d ago

I'm with you on that. Nothing is won before the fact, so people need to just chill with that.

@ Bar Brothers above.

You're totally right, Sony did lose 90 (Ninety) gamers in the blink of an eye.

But to be fair, let's step into reality for second, I know it's probably not "always on" for you.

If it took the PS2 13 years to sell 150 million units, then there is no logical way to determine how many gamers Sony lost/won with the PS3 being only 7 years old.

Number 2, The PS3 has yet to reach the $200.00 price point. But more impressively is the fact that the PS3 is currently selling almost as many units as the 3DS worldwide.

It's very easy to see why the PS3 is going to pass the 100 million units mark.

NewMonday4042d ago

MS look like losing globally by a big margin this time, with that and a 50/50 split in the USA would be enough for Sony.

Cocozero4042d ago

Lol I guess the new 720 leaks were too much for some sites :p

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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