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Microsoft: Is Their Silence Hurting Them?

Graham from Gamers Association wrote "With Sony holding a live global event back in February that announced the PS4 and their plans for it, consumers and developers alike got a chance to get excited and build hype before May’s mega-event E3. Not only announcing it, but showing the controller and several games that are currently in the works, Sony managed to come out of the gate swinging and build momentum in their favor. Now almost a month, and two tradeshows (GDC and PAX East) later, no one has heard anything from Microsoft in regards to the next generation of consoles. Is Microsoft doing itself any favors by being quiet?"

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Hellsvacancy4035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

No, the 720 has had loads of free advertising, I bet theres people in the world, on a remote island somewhere that dont even have computers etc, just sticks and stones and know about the 720

"hubba hubba jug jug, jiggy iggy mo-higgy" *translated* Do you think itll be always on?

Nitrowolf24035d ago

hahaha Fu XD

I guess it really depends on how they see it, but if they stay silent for to long people will begin to believe. And it doesn't help that someone from there just blurted out stuff on Twitter.

Microsoft can easily turn this around with a small statement. I mean we know the next console is gonna be announced, thyey could easily come out and say "the next box won't be always online". Still I guess it's that full reveal they want.

LOGICWINS4035d ago

"but if they stay silent for to long people will begin to believe."

It doesn't matter what people believe now. What matters is what they believe this fall when the console is out.

Did it matter a few months ago when we heard that the PS4 wasn't going to be THAT much more powerful than the PS3? No, because we now know that this isn't true.

One way or another, we're going to learn the truth. Whether we learn that truth now or a few months from now is irrelevant.

zebramocha4035d ago

@logic and you honestly believe the ps4 wouldn't be better than the ps3

LOGICWINS4035d ago

I've always believed that the PS4 was going to be better than the PS3...the question was to what degree.

Axe994035d ago

@ Logic - the issue is that the strength and consistency of these rumours (multiple sources hinting that they're true, and generally being consistent with each other) generates a poor emotional association with gamers. Humans are emotional beings, and MS is letting this rumour set them back before they've even started. It's downright odd behaviour.

NewMonday4035d ago

staying in a negative light will make previously xbox only gamers warm up to the idea of a different console.

to get the trust back the Durango must:

* not be overpowered by the PS4
* be playable off-line at any time for non online MP games
* Kinect not mandatory, few are comfortable with a camera watching them all the time.
* show new hardcore games

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Riderz13374035d ago

Yeah but most of it has been bad advertising lol. It's benefiting Sony a lot though so keep the bad publicity coming Microsoft!

BX814035d ago

I don't see how Sony is benefiting from any thing yet. Did they recieve a huge wave of pre orders for the ps4?

Riderz13374035d ago

BX81 - Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. No one knows but it's clearly benefiting Sony when their competition is getting bad publicity.

LOGICWINS4035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

"No one knows but it's clearly benefiting Sony when their competition is getting bad publicity."

You don't know that. Your assuming that bad publicity for the 720 means that gamers will jump into Sony's arms with the PS4.

How do you know this news won't make people simply stick with the consoles they already own?

How do you know this news won't make people abandon next-gen consoles all together and adopt PC gaming?

How do you know that people aren't saving their money for the eventual Wii U price drop that will likely happen this year?

You don't know.

Anyone who is already dismissing the 720 was never planning to get one in the first place.

grayfoxx8814035d ago

@logicwins

"Your assuming that bad publicity for the 720 means that gamers will jump into Sony's arms with the PS4."

Well, from the many articles and comments that I've been reading the last several days it certainly looks that way.

Out of all the possibilities out there, the PS4 may likely be the only console that shares similar qualities with the next Xbox, when also taking the WiiU and PC into consideration as well. There is a reason why Sony is competing directly with Microsoft, they are competing over the same gamer.

Gamers may flock to the PS4, the WiiU, or decide to finally build a gaming rig. Overall, though, I believe that if Microsoft follows through with these ill-advised decisions, the majority of their lost business will end up in Sony's pocket, because the PS4 will most likely be the closest experience to the 720....Durango...Infinity?

Anyway, that's just how I see it.

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aviator1894035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

The console, if released this year, is potentially still over 7-8 months from launch.
I never take the idea of buying a piece of hardware lightly, more especially if it's going to dig a hold in my wallet. Honestly, I have never let rumors, no matter how ridiculous or sound they may be or have been, convince me, particularly this early prior to a product launch, to either support or abandon it prior to release.

I don't know why so many individuals are such in a quick hurry to cast something aside before even given any official or concrete details on it. It hasn't even been announced yet...

LOGICWINS4035d ago

"I don't know why so many individuals are such in a quick hurry to cast something aside before even having any official or concrete details about."

Welcome to N4G.

Nitrowolf24035d ago

It's not just N4G though Logic.
I honestly it's better to say something now rather than have all this a secret until reveal. Say if this rumor wasn't leaked and say MS did go with always online and announced it. That in fact would have a terrible effect on them.

I like to think in a way this rumor is good overall. If proves to be false at least console companies will get the message that no one wants it. And if MS was planning on doing it, hopefully the reactions change their minds.

LOGICWINS4035d ago (Edited 4035d ago )

"I like to think in a way this rumor is good overall. If proves to be false at least console companies will get the message that no one wants it. And if MS was planning on doing it, hopefully the reactions change their minds."

I get what your saying, but MS has a lot of fans and many of them aren't as informed as we are. IF Microsoft launches an always online console(the rumored $300 subscription based console would imply that they will since MS would obviously want the ability to brick a 360 via the Internet if someone misses a monthly payment), I wouldn't be surprised if they were successful with it.

360 owners have proven in the past that they are okay with a console thats more expensive in the long term(XBL Gold sub) as long as it is less expensive in the short term.

rainslacker4035d ago

That's sound reasoning to get all the facts before making a big purchase. More people should do so.

The day after Sony announced the PS4, I told a guy at work who is a big Sony fan that they announced it(he hadn't heard ahead of time), and the first thing he asked was when it was coming out, then said he was going to buy it. Knew nothing about it, didn't care, just knew he wanted it.

This will be true for MS as well come the release of their console. There will be people that will buy it no matter what, regardless of if this rumor is true or not. If the worst case scenario to this is true, many will still buy it because they haven't informed themselves on it(See SimCity for reference).

Another fun work anecdote...today this same Sony fan asked if MS was going to be always online. He obviously doesn't keep up with news, but he knows what always-on could mean for playing games. The whole thing is reaching out beyond the gaming community, because I've never known him to be terribly informed on anything that isn't COD or BF related, and even then it's usually post-release he becomes informed.

Anyways, to me, this whole debate isn't whether it would be good or bad for MS in the long run. It isn't about whether the rumor is true or not. It's about what potential something like this could mean for gaming and what the community feels about the actual topic at hand. People are focusing too narrowly on the subject in my opinion.

Godmars2904035d ago

I think not talking to indie devs while Sony presents an opens arms policy is going hurt them more than anything. Especially considering by all accounts they don't have good relations with indies they've worked with.

LOGICWINS4035d ago

Not necessarily. Are people buying $400-$500 next-gen consoles to play $0-$15 bite sized experiences, or are they buying next-gen consoles to play AAA first and third party titles?

Indie games are just icing on a delicious cake. The icing makes the cake a tad better, but the cake would still be delicious without that icing.

Godmars2904035d ago

And I'm saying MS as of yet has no cake much less frosting. They have yet to officially announce a system, and their track record for delivering AAA or a diverse assortment of major, 1st through 3rd party, titles could be as best described as limited.

Sony really hasn't shown any PS4 titles yet but they have history. Are establishing early relations for next gen whereas MS is coming off either as following, or off into their own thing.

Hell. For that matter should Sony offer something at $0 it can be said that that's what they ask for it. With MS if something "free" isn't through the veil of a paid subscription it'll be powered by Mountain Dew.

clintos594035d ago

LOGICWINS

U can say the same thing for BC. Do u really want to buy these upgraded systems only to play last gen games? Id rather have new indie games bringing new experience's to the table then just use my new system to play old games that can ruin my disc drive.

Hicken4035d ago

You're forever playing Devil's Advocate, but you're not very good at it, honestly.

The_Troll_Whisperer4035d ago

I think that they want to build momentum for the successor to the Xbox 360. That is good, but it isn't turning out as good as it should be, theoretically. Momentum is building alright... in a negative way. Always-Online, No BC Xbox 360 games, etc. etc. etc. I never trust rumors so I don't think this is true or fake. I'll wait until E3 or May 21st or whenever it's revealed before judging the console.

Octo14035d ago

No. News or no news, there are already gamers that were planning on buying the next XBox barring any really stupid decisions that MS makes. It exists that we know and I am sure that MS is keeping quiet for a reason and I can't see why this will hurt MS.
Knowing MS they will dump millions on marketing the damn thing. I'm surprised myself that Sony did not wait to announce the PS4 until E3 2013 but I am sure that it's all part of their strategy. There's a method to everyones madness XD

Jaqen_Hghar4035d ago

A man isn't sure you should have such confidence in these companies. They've made some pretty monumental mistakes in the past and they're not the first billion dollar corporations to do so.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers16h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken2h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g12h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing11h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H912h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola8h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66911h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle10h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 3h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos22h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN15h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo17h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies13h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic11h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9010h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 2h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long23h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 1h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 4h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 3h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola23h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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