How Microsoft's ignorance and Nintendo's console put Sony in first place for next-gen success

PSU.com's Kyle Prahl writes:

"The sales woes and seemingly outdated tech of Wii U, alongside damning evidence of "always online" for the next-gen Xbox, looks laughable next to marketing that has cast PS4 in a favorable light with many gamers. Developers are swearing allegiance. Indie titles are coming in droves. We have jaw-dropping evidence of PS4's graphical beauty and a heaping ton of information on everything from system specs and offline play to social features and streaming. On top of everything, PlayStation Vita looks ready to find its niche as an essential companion device for the hardcore PS4 gamer. All this, before year's end. No wonder Xbots are jumping ship."

[Majin-vegeta]

Well time to sit back and watch the comments unfold.*Tosses popcorn in mouth*

[TrevorPhillips]

I seriously can't wait for the PS4! It'll be like playing the PS2 all over again :D

[Theyellowflash30]

The PS2 had a stellar lineup of Japanese RPGs. The PS4 is going to have a majority of Western based shooting games.

Even Sony's Japanese studio is making a Western Style game. The PS2 was balanced with it's game collection. The PS3 will be dominated by Western devs.

[HyperBear]

I know it's probably a long-shot, but I think it's time to bring Kevin Butler back for at least half of the marketing campaign for the PlayStation 4!!!

[yesmynameissumo]

I'm definitely getting a PS4, but it's a tad too early to comment on rumors of Microsoft's next entry.

[noxeven]

I'm tired of these articles. Sigh can't wait for official announcement from ms and all these rumor die,

[Roper316]

" No wonder Xbots are jumping ship "

that isn't needed even from a PS dedicated site, can't we just be gamers with different opinions & preferences?

[paybackprahl]

In the article, those words are hyperlinked to NeoGAF evidence of Xbox fans vowing not to purchase a next-gen Xbox. So, there's reasoning for say that.

[Snookies12]

I think he's referring more to the "Xbots" term more than the "jumping ship" part...

Stuff like that is childish and stupid, and those that disagreed with Roper316 in terms of "can't we just be gamers with different opinions & preferences" Need to grow the hell up. We're gamers, we like GAMES, systems allow us to play those games, no matter what's inside of them or who they're made by.

[MysticStrummer]

"In the article, those words are hyperlinked to NeoGAF evidence of Xbox fans vowing not to purchase a next-gen Xbox. So, there's reasoning for say that."

How exactly would anyone know who is telling the truth online? Anyone can claim anything they want.

!, for example, refuse to answer Kate Beckinsale's phone calls because she cheated on me once too often. It doesn't matter how sorry she is now because I can never trust her again. I'm honestly thinking about changing my number because of her constant weeping voicemails, begging for one more chance. We had something special for awhile but it's over.

I've seen lots of "evidence" of formerly loyal 360 fans jumping ship also, but the only real evidence will be the sales next generation.

Apologies to Kate Beckinsale. Call me.

[BattleTorn]

This xbot is waiting to jump until the ship is sunk. (ie an official announcement affirms all this kinect2.0 focus, no used games, always-online, ect)

[Lykon]

No let us fan the flames of war. The wii u has come it's lot too soon and is just another gimick console for girls and children and anyone who needs to play mario version whatever. M$ is an ugly corp that can't design or build reliable hardware or software. Sony hold the key next gen

[JeffGUNZ]

How do articles like this get approved? I understand it's a pro sony site, but come on, MS hasn't announced anything. Yep, that's sure enough to declare a "winner".

[Hicken]

That's how they get approved. There's nothing to indicate something to the contrary, so it only makes sense to speculate in the direction that evidence indicates. Even if it's just rumors, the fact that they persist, from multiple sources, and Microsoft is doing nothing to dissuade their propagation, lends the rumors credibility.

I'm sure there's some old adage that says it better than I can, but if the only thing we know is a lie, then that's the same as the truth, to us. So, unless Microsoft can give us SOMETHING to latch onto in order to at least SUGGEST otherwise, what's wrong with speculating under the assumption that the rumors ARE true?

[JeffGUNZ]

I understand the route you're going with that, but we have to look at it with a broader scope. MS is a multi million dollar company who has been planning this reveal for years now. What people forget to remember is that MS launched a website on January 2, 2013, a countdown to E3. I feel like that was MS telling us something big (next gen) is coming. E3 is 2 months, away, all things are set for this reveal and planned, there is no way they are going to let the cat out of the bag yet, regardless of what is going around gamer sites. The money alone in what they are planning for E3 is astronomical and to take the bait of poor gaming journalists is laughable. To me, now this is just my opinion, I feel like MS isn't scared and is confident in their product to keep on their original path.

Everyone is in a rage right now, but if MS reveals at E3, Backwards compatability ,you don't NEED an internet connection to play, and they don't block used games, all of this will be an afterthought. I feel like people are so eager they believe everything at this point.

[hennessey86]

To pass judgement until I know the facts, these are all still rumors and could have been ideas that have been thrown away by microsoft.

[Mkai28]

Indeed, you can't judge a man that hasn't committed a crime, and when an if he commits the crime there has to be an confession or evidence. Have people ever heard of a company putting out things to confuse there competitors? Having 1.23 tflops, AMD 6670 GPU ,ect. It's a strategic snare to confound the opponent :)

[majiebeast]

The power of twitter... 4 tweets and he caused Microsoft a PR nightmare. This is on every big games site and some news site like NBC tech and huffingtonpost. It has gone global at this point.

This gif is pure gold and made my day. Thx Neogaf.
http://i.minus.com/iZ4Xc7uz...

Speaking of stupid tweets... Cliffy B is at it again

https://twitter.com/thereal...

[saint_seya]

LOL at that gif.. made lol so hard. Now one of wii and ps4 plox :p

[wishingW3L]

the sad thing are the people that agree with Cliffy and continue the joke. It seems more than half of the population in this planet either don't have a brain or maybe they just don't have any sympathy toward the neighbor.

[maniacmayhem]

LMAO!

That gif was pure genius.

To be fair though if your electricity went out you wouldn't be playing anything.

[CEOSteveBallmer]

Hehe I agree with you bro but obviously electricy is "mainstream" and is much more stable than an internet and is found even in rural areas. Electricity is needed in almost everything, without it you cannot work, cook, do the laundry, watch tv "Play games" unless you want a medieval lifestyle. Internet on the otherhand, you could pretty much do almost everything "Without it".

[CEOSteveBallmer]

majie how about posting something like these? http://i.minus.com/i59yXniS... LOL cant get enuf of it XD

[Ezz2013]

@majiebeast

LOL at this GIF XD
OMG!!! i can't stop laughing
my heart can't take it any more

@griever137
LOL hahahahahahaha my heart ...my heart

[trenso1]

lmao thanks for that gif made my night

[Gameland]

Imagine standing inline with playstation and Xbox players for the PS4 as Gamers.
one day we will have Peace!

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Yeah.. Uhmm...

I'm gonna "wait and see" on this one.
I have had too many smart-heads tell me one thing and then it ends-up another.

It's should be a FUN E3- I guarantee.

[Typical-Guy]

It's really too early to say so. MS hasn't said anything regarding the New Xbox. As for Nintendo, I don't care about them anyway!

[Nathaniel_Drake]

It's what they didn't say is what really tells

[TheKayle1]

"tentonsoftube + 25m ago
prepare for the ps2 glory days. absolute fucking annihilation.
#1"

he get 27 agree...

is nice to see how some tech-ignorant ppls go in force ..in threads like this..
i fell shame for u guys

also coz ..what if the next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony ..behind what wall u will go to cry?

[clintos59]

Sony has proven even with inferior hardware microsoft still cant compete. Ps2 vs Xbox ring a bell? So why would we hide again?

[_QQ_]

the cheapest console tends to win... plus they havn't proved that "superior hardware" wins. ps3 is still behind wii, and its only somewhat close because all the extra sales they get from people having to repurchase a ps3 since their "superior hardware" has an average 3 year life span.

[Lvl_up_gamer]

That's it. Keep living in the irrelevant past. Sony used to live there just before the PS3 was released.

Now the PS3 is in Last place for market share and the 360 took half of the market that once belonged to sony.

Live in the past....get left behind.

[clintos59]

lopez_josue

Now u talking nonsense, I still have my ps3 from launch & even though sony had ylod it still is a small percentage compared to rrod. Sony didnt have to spend a billion dollars like microsoft, that just proves the 360 was launched incomplete & that is the only reason why microsoft sold that many 360's.

Lvl_up_gamer

Your living in the passed. Less exclusives out of all 3 consoles, u pay for online gaming & for your information the ps3 has been outselling the 360 worlwide for the passed few years now. Yeah your living in the passed because online gaming is free in these times. Get wit the times bruh.

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

"Now the PS3 is in Last place for market share and the 360 took half of the market that once belonged to sony."

Actually it's rather divided between the three consoles lol.

360 dead last in sales btw lol

[fsfsxii]

1 bubble troll, you also lost all of them in less than 2 weeks. Pathetic

[Gamer-40]

Yeah, the Sony club this site, always push - bubble for not only SONY fans.

Not too correct.

[Gamer-40]

what if the next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony ..behind what wall u will go to cry?

LoL!

"..next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony.."
This absolutely possible.

Only hardcore Sony fanboy say, no...this impossible, new xbox weak and only focus the Kinect....

[Sucitta]

wow.. all this news is really hurting your devotion to a corporation called microsoft..

your patheitc.

[Jek_Porkins]

LMFAO!

Really? We are declaring Sony the winner of the next generation before they've even shown what their console looks like, the price or release date. That is some damn prognosticating right there.

To also use a rumor about the next Xbox as a basis for that prognostication is just bad journalism, we have no facts, just rumors. I cant wait to see what the truth is, but if these rumors turn out false, a lot of crow and humble pie shall be served.

[Dgander]

As always when MS nextbox has features PS4 dont have they will pretend it dont matter then cheer when their PS4 gets it 2 years later. I think MS will beat Sony on price point since Sony is selling HEADQUARTER buildings and divisions just to make a profit to please investors. Sony will finally sink the ship if they try to compete with price with PS4.

[xursz]

Like Xbox fans pretended Bluray didn't matter, right? They all have pros and cons, I think the value is based on how heavy the pros outweigh the cons.

[paybackprahl]

Declaring Sony the winner and saying "Sony is in first place" are two VERY different things.

[Jek_Porkins]

How can they do either before showing their next console, price point, release date? You cant, that would be as retarded as someone saying the same thing about the next Xbox. We don't know anything about it, no way can we say it's in first or going to win.

Jumping the gun-meet-counting chickens before they hatch.

[Dms2012]

Calling that idiotic diatribe "journalism" is giving it far too much credit. Even more sickening are the responses to it. So much pride in hardware and games that none of you had a hand in creating.

[Gamer-40]

News for only Ps owner gamers.
Sponsored By Sony Computer Entertainment.

Absolutely objective.

[jcnba28]

First place? LOL Nintendo owns first place.

[C4BL3]

I am a long time xbox player and I will be moving to PS4. Bungie putting Destiny on PS4 sold me. The only games I care about in the near future are BF4 and Destiny. Why stay with M$ when we all know they are going soft.

[Cam977]

Welcome to the family.

[Jadedz]

Elitist bullplop at its finest.

[Ck1x]

Listen I really hope that the PS4 does do well when its released, just as I want all of the console to do good... But I feel that if the PS4 doesn't sell like the PS2, there might be a lot of Sony fans committing suicide behind this! Just look at some of the comments on here alone. Some pretty mental people on this site I tell you.

[HmongAmerican]

Give them two months time. Anything after that then it is too late for them, if they not going to reveal anything by then. As of now, I just gonna have to put up with all the rumors.

[blackbirdi]

it was ignorance that hurt the company i think this time it's M$ turn

[Theyellowflash30]

Yeah, it's way too early to declare a winner, and this article is clearly looking for "fanboy hits" Let's take a wait and see approach. Because I saw these same articles when it was PSP vs DS, PSV vs 3DS, PS3+Xbox 360 vs Wii.... and we all know how those turned out.

[Dj7FairyTail]

PlayStation SITE

FANBOY FANBOY ALERT

[Objective]

Too many frogs in this well.

[Grimhammer00]

Problem is always online is at this point almost fact for MS new console. And it's likely very central to their plans. They have by far been the console of choice for freeloaders who want a hackable system. Download latest cracked game release. Sometimes months in advance. And play on a seperate network from Xbox live that costs you nothing but your Internet connection.

So it's no surprise that DRMing the sh!t out of their new console is a priority for them. I'm sure developers want this too. But they also must weigh the backlash. And I think it's very apparent where most gamers side on this issue.

Keep in mind MS will require Xbox live gold for online play. So your virtually forced to pay for whatever paywall cost they decide is good for next gen.

None if this is permanent. As soon as MS feel the hurt they'll update firmware for offline play. They'll immediately accept the tug of war with hackers again.

[_QQ_]

at least 70% of people who own an xbox now will buy one next gen...and what is that about nintendo's console? it will be the cheapest by a large margin so when current consoles are done the wiiu will have the casuals again, Wiiu also has the best exclusive lineup so far.

[Hanso]

Wiiu also has the best exclusive lineup so far

HUH?

[_QQ_]

of course comments like yours will appear, no counter arguement, nothing to add, just qouting me and saying "huh" as if i only spoke nonsense.as you are in desperate need of it, i'll clarify for you, just Monolith's X will be better than any individual confirmed ps4 exclusive. unless you want to argue that some average shooter(killzone),or a good not great superhero franchise(infamous) will be better than the spiritual successor to last gen's best JRPG. the same will apply to the next zelda, mario, and retro's game. plus nintendo has all the other remaining exclusives like mariokart,pikmin,bayonetta,sma shbros,yarn yoshi. naughty dog is the only sony first party that can compete with nintendo's first party.

[ps3_pwns]

microsoft is ignorant and so are many of there supporters at this point. the go to console is the ps4. the x720 will have no one on mics and no one playing on it. why fight the inevitable? sometimes people just need to let go. its like that one friend who used to be so good to you but now made a turn for the worst and is going to bring you down. best thing to do is cut ties. stop fighting what needs to be done in gaming. playstation 4 is here to stay. call of duty will be hyped and bigger and better with more mics and people playing on the ps4 version.

[Grimhammer00]

What? Mics? Whatever.
It's the DRM people. That's the issue. Wake the uck up!

MS always online is solely to make sure you can't trade, crack or share the games you pay for but don't actually own.

[KillrateOmega]

Considering that the 'online required to play' rumor of the Nextbox has gained a lot credibility due to the Adam Orth fiasco, I CAN see PS4 being the most successful next-gen. It's not guaranteed, but their odds are looking good.

The 'online required to play' rumor MAY end up being officially debunked by MS via statement or reveal, but if it doesn't, then they've effectively alienated half of their consumers. It'll be interesting to see how MS's fiercer supporters get around this one.

As for the Wii U...let's be honest, it's not exactly a great threat at the moment.

[Deku-Johnny]

I imagine Wii U sales are going to pick up when the 1st party content comes along. By the end of the 8th gen it'll probably be close between Sony and Nintendo (like the 7th gen is with MS and Sony now) with Sony ultimately winning in the end and Microsoft trailing far behind.

I think one of the big 3 might drop out of the console business at the end of the upcoming generation and it'll probably be Microsoft. If any of them were to drop out I think MS would be the least missed. The industry just would be the same without Nintendo and Sony.

[GdaTyler]

Playstation 4'a indie support especially helps too!

[DivineAssault]

Sony is the king of core gaming.. Ill always have PS as my main console of choice.. MS may be digging their own grave with the always online thing but thats not for sure yet.. Either way, sony is launching 1st & ppl will want the new tech.. Nintendo cant seem to get any good new games.. Core games anyway & i said NEW! Remakes & ports aint gonna cut it & when they decide to release their other games, PS4 might already be here... & if the price difference is only $100 or so, PS4 will be the more attractive console for consumers having so many more options & more power...

[Ck1x]

Yeah people are seriously jumping the gun on all of this... One thing that both Nintendo and Microsoft probably plan on doing right in the face of the PS4 is out marketing them! Nintendo has more money in the bank to spend than Sony and nobody does marketing quite as well as Microsoft. So its great that Sony is getting as much free publicity as possible right now. I tell you the Sony fanbase makes a person not want to own a console from them at all. The douche bag, bro shooter mentality just reeks of prepubescent high-schoolers.

[prettyboy12]

are you serious?!!sony is a billion dollar company that deal with more product then there game division.they have tvs,computers,music devices,phones and a bloody movie production!!!how the hell does nin have more money???and the words of the great will ferrel...YOUR CRAZY MAN,YOUR CRAZY!!!

[Ck1x]

Because Nintendo has over 10billion dollars sitting in the bank and they are just a video-games company... Sony doesn't have that kind of cash to compete on the same level, let alone try and out market Microsoft as well. I mean what would they have to sell next?

[RuleofOne343]

Yet their financial are crap , their credit value is crap , they have sold both office buildings.all those product you mentioned are being out sold by their component rivals.

[badkolo]

i agree but not about the the frees ony press, right now everyone is talking xbox and this always online stuff and they havent shown a dam thing yet, genius

[Tultras]

Lol.

I don't know where you get your statistics from, but Nintendo doesn't have anywhere near the amount of ' cash ' that Sony does.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Fanboys declaring victory for their team before the generation has even begun.

The fact that millions of people chose the RROD over the ps3 should tell you something about the mindset of the consumer.

There's also another angle to these recent Xbox stories that has yet to be discovered. All I will say is, no one is talking about the ps4. Get the hint?

[TheSkullkid]

This article is disgusting TRIPE. Wii U has already won next gen. However, PS4 has earned its place of being Nintendo's bitch at 2nd.

[PopRocks359]

It's a fanboy attitude like that that makes it so difficult to have intelligent conversations on this site.

Seriously, no one has "won" anything. Two of these consoles aren't even out. Let's at least wait to see how they do before we start making any loose predictions without any real evidence to support them. That's something Pachter already does for all of us.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Lmao at this thread how does this put Sony in first place when they havent shipped or sold one console. Just another fanboy thread on N4G absolute ridiculous.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Got to laugh at these idiotic fanboy articles. PS4 is just PS3 with slightly better graphics and even more useless gimmicks. That combined with mediocre IP's (which won't sell, like always) and 3rd parties that will once again favour MS in terms of exclusive content.

But hey, Sony and their fans will hype the s**t out of PS4, just liked they did with PS3 & Vita.

Film buffs spared PS3, I can't see nothing saving PS4 once the hype quickly dies down after launch!

[prettyboy12]

YEA LIKE HOW MS LAUNCHED FIRST JUST TO BE SONYS BITCH IN THE END!!see a little logic goes a long way douche!

[AO1JMM]

-1

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Xbox is above PS3 in sales again and don't even get me started on the difference in software sales. Anyway, I'll leave you and your slanted forehead to digest that!

[sdplisken]

PS4 is gonna rape all

[AKR]

Fun Facts:

A.) The Wii U's "Slow Sales" match that of the XBOX 360's and PS3's in the same time frame. ALSO - the Wii U just recently OUTSOLD the PS3 for the first time in Japan.

B.) The Wii U's "seemingly outdated tech" has yet to see it's full potential arise yet. Not to mention, it already has two games that match that of the PC versions (Deus EX and Need for Speed Most Wanted U). Also, it's been the console with the "outdated tech" that has won the past 3 generations:

PS1 - Weakest console of the 5th generation - Won.

PS2 - Weakest console of the 6th generation - Won and became the best selling home console of all time and 2nd best selling game console ever. Also lasted almost TWO full generations.

Wii - Weakest console of the 7th generation. - Won and became the best selling home console of the 7th gen. Also the 2nd best selling home console of all time, and 3rd best selling game console ever.

DS - Weakest handheld console of the 7th generation - Won and became the best selling handheld console of the 7th generation, as well as the best selling game console ever.

Currently:

3DS - Weakest handheld console of the 8th generation - but is currently leading the pack. Hottest selling game console on the market, with a ton of quality games currently on - and entering it's library.

No 8th gen console is in "first place" right now. Only one has been released, while the other two haven't even been fully unveiled. The only time the results can come out, is when we're transitioning into the 9th generation.

Let's see an article like this 6-8 years from now.

My work here, is done.

[arbitor365]

the utter dishonesty of nintendo fanboys is truly remarkable.

"it already has two games that match that of the PC versions (Deus EX and Need for Speed Most Wanted U)."

lol a blatant lie. NFS is not even rendered in 720P and it is running in 30 FPS. not even close to the PC version. and Deus ex will most likely be the same. the wii u's most daunting goals are to out-do consoles that are 7 years old, at the end of their lifespans.

also, correlation =/= causality. the wii u shares nothing in common with those consoles you listed. you clearly have no clue why those consoles sold as well as they did. or you are intentionally being dishonest

the PS1 and PS2 had ubiquitous third, second, and first party support. which the wii u does not. to say the PS1 and PS2 sold the most simply because they were cheaper is asinine. also, they werent nearly as behind other consoles in terms of raw power, as the wii u clearly is. no one ever would have considered the notion that the PS2 was a gen behind the xbox or gamecube. the very concept didnt come around until the wii and wii u.

also, comparing it to handhelds is laughable. that is a totally different market and you know it. and if you want to talk handhelds, IOS is dominating the market. and most tablets and phones are more expensive than nintendo handhelds.

if you want to compare the wii u to the wii, go ahead. that is your closest comparison. but you surely realize that casuals and gimmick appeal are what made the wii so hot-selling. and that appeal is totally absent from the wii u

[AKR]

And here you are trying to knock a console 4 months into it's lifespan. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, good sir. Fan, yes. Fan"boy" - No. I don't live and breath Nintendo. I do have plans to buy a PS4 at some point, but not at launch.

Anyway, my point was despite the Wii U's weaker specs, that doesn't necessarily *doom* the console. I was stating that for past three generations, the weaker console has been the one to claim top spot. You want to bash me for mounting handheld and home consoles together - yet here you are mounting smartphones and tablets to actual handheld game devices. Two different breeds of beasts, my friend.

As for NFSMW: U - you should see the Digital Foundry comparison of the Wii U vs. the PC - they look nearly identical. Of course the PC still holds the top spot, but the fact that the Wii U borrows a lot of the textures of the PC version - make them look quite similar. And hell, that was a PORT. Imagine a full-bloom game, built from the ground up? Deus EX hasn't been compared yet, but the devs have already claimed the Wii U version will be "sharper than the PC version."

Don't get me wrong, the PS4 and the 720 are much more powerful than the Wii U, I know that, there's no use denying it. BUT - that isn't to say the Wii U is "weak". It isn't trying to beat out the last-gen consoles at the end of their lifecycles. That's like saying the XBOX 360 was trying to beat out the PS2, and GC, since it was the first 7th-gen console to release. It took a while before there was a true difference in graphics.

This time around, the gap is MUCH smaller and the transition is much more simple. We're transitioning from HD to HD. Sure, 8th-gen HD will look more beautiful than what we saw in the 7th-gen, but if you're expecting something on the level of PS2, GC and XBOX to XBOX 360 and PS3, you're sadly mistaken my friend. We're approaching the end of the graphics road, here.

The Wii U may not be reeling in the casuals the same way the Wii did - but that isn't to say it won't catch on with them as well, at some point in the future. "Nobody knows about Wii U" - yet it's sold at the same point as the XBOX 360 and PS3 in the same time slot.

Either way - My point still stands - It's too early to judge any of the 8th-gen consoles. Their first judging round should come at least a year after their respective launch dates, and then continue annually. Not 4 months after release, or even before they launch.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

Frame rate issues can be fixed, but hey, you knew the other guy was talking about graphics didn't you???

I look forward to you being just as dishonest about your next gen being just as good as a high end PC very soon.

Also saying the PS1 is comparable to N64 in visuals is just moronic! Banjo Kazooie and Zelda alone looked better than every PS1 game put together!

[isarai]

you know i haven't owned a Nintendo product since N64, but i feel people's hate toward nintendo's use of outdated tech is misplaced. Yeah sure next gen more modern tech is great, but to me nintendo does many other thing right that the vast majority of studios just don't do anymore. For one they really seam to focus on gameplay before anything else, and their level of polish on their games is unmatched IMO. Nintendo's games have such a classic and good feel to them that you just don't find in most modern games these days, not to mention they are very good at keeping their series' true to it's roots while still managing to keep things fresh and innovative. Sure it would be great to see what more they can do with better tech, but if i have to sacrifice tech for better games? then i have no problem doing so whatsoever

[arbitor365]

sony is rectifying the mistakes they made last gen, while nintendo and microsoft seem to be making even more mistakes.

everything is pointing to a PS4 victory.

[Max-Zorin]

Smh at these comments. Y'all worse than the people that fight over religion.

[AO1JMM]

"Sony in first place for next-gen success"

It is not out so stop the assumptions.

[LastXeno]

It sounds like you (like most of the Playstation fan-base) are also ignorant for counting Nintendo out.

[violents]

Hopefully the rumors are just rumors and wont come to fruition. However if MS plans to try and cover their own ass by spitting in the face of the consumer I think sony will destroy them in the next gen market. Everyone is praising the PS4 and for good reason, sony actually listened to gamers and game developers for once. Everyone is getting what they want for once and every gamer out there will do nothing but benifit from a corporation actually doing what everyone wanted for once.

And wow I dont know whats going on with ninty these days, Its almost starting to look like gamecube all over again. I'm not saying its not a decent machine but when ps4/nextbox come out what reason will we have to want a nintendo anymore. Hell I got a wii and its got more dust on it than anything in the house. It got used for like a month and everyone lost interest. And really I've grown up nintendo, I dont rush to the mario games like i used to long ago, Idk, mabey its just me but nintendo games are just too family friendly oriented for me. It would take some seriously awsome exclusives for me to want to buy one.(a wiiu that is)

[Vickistheman]

I wouldn`t get too excited about all these rumors.

Yes PS4 looks beastly right now but I seriously doubt MS will require always online to play games. It would just be commercial suicide.

MS is probably trying to match or equal any of the PS4`s specs & features, or are trying to beef up whatever new sh*t they have planned and are not ready to unveil anything quite yet.

If they do have always online requirements to play online then may god bless them.

[Jagsrock]

Nobody can say what will happen yet next gen. Does sony look like they are set up for success? Sure, but it doesn't mean that the Wii U can't bounce back and since we still know little about Microsoft's next system it's extremely premature to count them out. The Sony bias on this site might make it seem like everyone is up and arms about the rumors circling the nextbox but in reality this is a very tiny bubble.

[Smokingunz]

Xbots will jump ship! That was funny lol
Anyway, im a huge xbox fan but I dont understand how ms can come from building a great machine that changed the way we play games forever while taking out a giant such as sony that had won two generations of gaming in the past to being arrogant and stupid as into making decisions that doesnt make any sense and now handing over the crown to sony and the next generation haven't start yet!?

All these rumors we're hearing is true and that's why ms hasn't commented on them yet.its a shame if u ask me. I for one will not be getting a 720 but will be picking up sony's new machine because sony is going in the direction that I want to see gaming go in, and this is coming from an xbox fan. Ms worked so hard to beat sony at gaming all while changing the way we plAy our games and at the same time becoming a strong recognizable icon in gaming to just handing over all that hard work to sony.shame I tell you.ah well, ps4, here I come.

[extermin8or]

Look at the ps2, look at it's market share, then look at the ps3 vs 360 vs wii.... now ask that question again. And Sony have jsut managed to pull it back to make it even with Mirosoft but they had to pull out all the stops- and if they can do that despite Mirosoft constantly bringing their A game for everything, and having better advertising; I can't see Microsoft doing the same in reverse. Sony have a few places in the world where purely on Brand they win, Japan for example. And actually quite a large portion of Europe and Asia in general are Sony dominated.

[urwifeminder]

I think nintendo and xbox will dominate this coming gen,for me sony wont get a look.

[extermin8or]

hmm see the thing is sony usually debunk a rumour if it's way off the mark, if it's along the right lines then they often let it run, now everyone knows the next xbox exists, so why Microsoft and none of the developers and publishers are yet to turn round and deny the used games blocking- I can't see there being any other reason than it is or at least was (might be changed I guess) true.... I mean even sony answered questions anbout the used game thing- albeit in an odd almost cryptic way but I have to wonder if they are only saying that to wind up their fellow companies or attempt to make them go through with plans they have whilst believing Sony is also doing so...

[badkolo]

all microsoft did was... wait for it.... nothing, and everyone is discussing the new xbox more then the new ps4 , they havent shown a dam thing yet and had everyone is up in arms, it will ensure that everyone will be listening for their reveal, pure genius, yeah yeah there is speculation but they havent shown a dam thing. genius and each day that goes by until the reveal you all will keep taking about it, once again genius. bad publicity is good publicity

[Dfooster]

Don't get your hopes up about this being one big rumour.

[badkolo]

no hopes at all, im 40, if they go this route and continue to charge for live, ps4 will be the main system of choice for me because its about gaming. If this is all a ploy from them which it possible could be then they did a genius job of doing nothing and still getting all the attention. in the end this bad press means nothing if its not true. plain and simple, if we cant play games without the system being on, they doomed themselves.

[prettyboy12]

@witwicky343 yea you keep telling yourself that buddy.you have a source to back up your claim?cause if not please gtfo!!!

[rapidturtle]

With MS continuing to charge for Xbox live, I will not buy an Xbox next Gen. It is ridiculous they continue charging me a yearly fee, to play games that I already paid $60 for.

[mii-gamer]

Jumping the gun aren't we? Should'nt we wait until official confirmation before claiming ms doom?

[Dfooster]

After years and years of being shafted by big corporate companies over things like micro-transactions, dlc that should have been in the game, so on and so forth I think it's great the gaming community has all come together to tell Microsoft unanimously that they are not putting up with this and we have an alternative option with the playstation brand.

I bet MS head honchos are in crisis talks now behind closed doors. Good, I hope they learn their lesson from this.

[xtreampro]

This has never mattered to the brain dead inhabitants of this website, whether N & MS are flying high with Sony rotting in in the sewers or the other way around these group of people will always see Sony as number one.

[Condemnedman]

Sony w@nk bots must be creaming their pants . They are already claiming victory before they have launched the consol lol what a bunch of losers tw@ts

[gnothe1]

i think this ALWAYS ON thing is being misinterpreted...once you connect your system to the internet it will still be connected to the internet..even when its powerd off(stand by mode)..with rumors of it being a dvr type sysem,,its gonna need that..if theres no internet connection..the system will just be limited to what you can do..an besides..an xbox just isnt fun without being online...when my internet service was down.i didnt even wanna play my xbox.it seemed DEAD....connected online..its a completly different system...

[generalthadeape]

I'm a die hard fan of Xbox 360-- got one upstairs in my office & another downstairs in the living room.

I'm also a fan of Nintendo's 3ds XL-- got one last week and can't seem to stop playing it. I "had" a WiiU Deluxe for less than a week before I got bored with it and sold it on Craigslist, just a month or so ago.

My point is this-- gamers are becoming more "fickle" when it comes to choosing their favorite systems. If you piss them off, don't release good games, act like an ass, or you bore them-- they will leave you.

This is mainly because there are so many choices available to us when it comes to which machine we want to use to play our games on.

With that in mind, 99.9% of my friends and family currently have Xbox 360 instead of PS3, while none of them have a WiiU at all.

Although those statistics are favorable to Microsoft this "current gen"-- those boys need to be extra careful not to take our support for granted for the "next gen" hardware that will be released just around the corner.

I am reserving judgement until Microsoft reveals the next Xbox to us all-- but I must say that the rumors and wild speculations are "getting to me", too.

I don't like Kinect. I don't like paying for Xbox Live. I don't like arrogance from corporate yahoos-- and I don't like the "always on" / "no used games" stuff we've been hearing about lately. I find it hard to think that I'm the only one that feels this way.

Sony's PS4 sounds like it's going to be a great system with very nice specs. Microsoft needs to come with their "A" game, if they want to impress the masses.

The ball is in your court, Microsoft-- what are you going to do with it?