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Destructoid: Microsoft man on always-online consoles: 'Deal with it'

Jim Sterling writes "Rumors that the Next Xbox will be restricted by the same always-online requirement that has crippled several major PC releases of late has not exactly been met with applause from prospective customers. One man, however -- Microsoft Studios creative director Adam Orth -- doesn't see why anybody could have an issue with a DRM Box."

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NastyLeftHook04049d ago

yeah..just deal with it. take it like a good boy. smh

Yi-Long4049d ago

... I'll deal with it by buying a PS4.

guitarded774049d ago

I'm hearing a lot of people are having the same reaction. It was stupid for him to say that. I'm certain MS's PR team is in a tailspin right now trying to figure out what to do. That single statement has changed many's perception of what the next XBOX will be, and we really don't know anything yet.

darthv724049d ago

you all just got seriously trolled and didnt even pick up on it?

That would go down as one of THE BEST pranks in console history. It would probably beat out the whole Sheng Long prank of Street Fighter 2 many years ago.

Anyone in this day and age can pass themselves off as another person when hiding behind such social media outlets like Twitter/facebook.

To think there is someone crafty enough to play on the minds of others, especially a hot topic of the 720, and get away with it.....not hard to believe at all.

That is why i will only believe the words coming from the presentation floor. If at that time all of these 'rumors' are proven true then i will apologize for not believing them sooner.

until then....i don't buy any of it. and neither should anyone else.

GrieverSoul4049d ago

First and Foremost, I dont like this always ON thing!!

However...

You gotta handle it to Microsoft. I mean, they found a way to put people paying for a service that is, and always was, free in other competitors. They made you pay for LIVE and got away with it. Now they are trying to make it that always ON is the way to go. Im not saying they will succed but there are people who defende paying for LIVE because of this and that... lets see how they will spin this.

BTW, I have a X360 and a PS3 and I dont pay for LIVE. My LIVE susbcription is Silver because GOLD is the price of the game I pay for the PS3 with free online.

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fermcr4049d ago

Isn't this duplicate news ?

NicSage4049d ago

So many people are going to dupe this topic, it's too hot not to.

LOGICWINS4049d ago

@Yi-Long- Preach brutha preach!

MikeMyers4049d ago

How do you deal with it if you don't have an online connection? We've seen these services go down before and while it is annoying you can still play your games offline. That's why SimCity got so much flack, they decided in their wisdom it needed a constant connection. So what you had were people paying 50 or 60 dollars and not being able to play. Guess what's going to happen when your $400 game console can't play ANY game?

RM-TatoTiburon4049d ago

i'll wait for the presentation, if this is truth i hope they know that internet connections go off very often more than energy cuts and will be a real bumer if i can't play games beacse i don't have internet in the moment

FunkMacNasty4049d ago

Hey tentonsoftube, nobody wants an 'always on' connection. But you've made it clear (and it's outlined pretty well in your comment history) that your a close minded Sony fanboy.

Everyone knows your not getting an Xbox of any kind, so instead of reminding us, why not save that one bubble of yours to say something positive... maybe in an article about Sony related stuff?

DigitalRaptor4048d ago

That comment failed pretty hard.

1) What kind of self-respecting person would get the new Xbox if all of these negative, anti-consumer rumours end up being true?

2) Why would anyone spin this debacle into a positive?

3) You get at least one bubble per article. So he can comment on Sony articles AND Microsoft articles.

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dedicatedtogamers4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

People will always make excuses. I'm already hearing them now:

"What's the big deal? Are you on N4G at the library? Everyone has internet. It's not a big deal".

Okay. Well, as a PC gamer of 20 years, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. Go ahead and let Microsoft have control over your game library! Have fun! I've already been down that road. I'll let you kids wallow in your naivety. At least on PC, you can find cracks and hacks for your games when the DRM f***s it all up. Good luck doing that with your 720 games.

BanBrother4049d ago

Already lost a bubble today by butt-hurt 360 fanboys, so at least I can't lose another. If anyone buys this console knowing it has online DRM (presuming it does in fact have always online) then I hope they lose internet connection a lot and that XBL gets hacked and down for a month.

Anyone stupid enough to buy it deserves that.

amiga-man4049d ago (Edited 4049d ago )

xbox owners bring it on themselves paying for online was a green light for M$ to continue taking advantage, some people never learn and will defend it to the detriment of all gamers.

have a well said bubble BanBrother for trying to wake them up.

die_fiend4049d ago

But David Jaffe has defended him. Which must mean something right? A guy who hasn't made a good game in about a decade but still thinks people are listening to him.

WeAreLegion4049d ago

You didn't like Twisted Metal? I loved it!

InTheZoneAC4049d ago

Twisted Metal was a good game, although you can tell it was rushed or didn't have a long development cycle.

CEOSteveBallmer4049d ago

If david jaffe defended him is true, Well "sigh" how the mighty have fallen.

Tultras4049d ago

God of War???

You mentioned decade.

die_fiend4048d ago

8 years then...sheesh. And look what's happened to that franchise

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InTheZoneAC4049d ago

if the idea of any product is to lure people away from other products and buy their own, then MS has failed in every way, like they have since they first came out.

PS4 was already a 100% launch day purchase from me and I find it funny how MS is doing everything they can to throw their own customers away.

I guess they figured people weren't "smart enough" to leave when 360 was just an issue waiting to happen that they can pretty much go in any direction they want now and the same people will stick with them.

lovegames7184049d ago

Morons love a good shafting so they'll still move units. Remember these are the same political that supported micro after the read fiasco. A situation in which micro knowingly rushed hardware with high failure rate that would die after first year warranty and micro didn't have to fix or replace it. Thousands and millions rebought Xbox not knowing initially it was a micro swindle then lawsuits came and micro divulged they rushed out system and extended warranty but by then many had already bought new systems. But even after that bit of info did ppl stop buying Xbox? No!!! I mean I never bought an Xbox because that was highly insulting and shady but many many did and that is worse than this always online rumor IMO.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest6d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN6d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor5d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic5d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv725d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares6d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv726d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka6d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion6d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer6d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow16d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar6d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn6d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18816d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast6d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning776d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning776d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast5d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv726d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes6d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218310d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit10d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan9d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-10d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead10d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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