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Xbox absence tells us nothing about next-gen

"The message is clear: the NDAs have
been signed at the highest level. This
next-gen discussion doesn't start until
Microsoft's lawyers say so."

iGAM3R-VIII4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

Well it does tell us that MS are stuggling from within and trying to pull of a stunt, when E3 come we gamers will have the answer so we still do not know if MS are building a military supercomputer gaming console lol :P but so far, I am sold on the PS4

StrongMan4051d ago

Well said and I completely agree.

+bubble

Evil_Ryu4051d ago

Blinded fanboyism comment
+Disagree added. Enjoy :)

JoGam4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

*Correction* Xbox absence tells us nothing about next-gen 720. Because we know and are learning more about Sony's Next Gen console everyday it seems.

iGAM3R-VIII4051d ago

agreed, it is only Ms who hasn't said a thing about the 720, all we know is all of this leaked unofficial rumoured stuff. Essentially, we do not even know if MS are even making a next gen console.

Knightofelemia4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

@ iGAM3R

Microsoft will not drop out of consoles they know there is money to be made in the market with the XBox brand. Microsoft may have done a few stupid things but making money and spending money is what they are good at.

GribbleGrunger4051d ago

Magnus, it was a figure of speech.

Why o why4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

MS are one of the 3 so its a third of next gen we no nothing about. The other 2 have laid their cards out. Ill still be picking up a 720 before that wii u anyway.... I know that much.

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AngelicIceDiamond4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

Immediately one really really stupid comment. And the usual troll agrees with you.

"Well it does tell us that MS are stuggling from within and trying to pull of a stunt"

What tells you MS is struggling within? What.. kind of insane garbage are talkin about?

Listen fanboy:

MS....HAS....NOT....ANNOUNCED ANYTHING REGARDING NEXT GEN YET.

MS doesn't operate on your, or my time, just wait. And who cares if your sold on the PlayStation "so is everyone else" on here. I'll get both eventually but in the mean time I'm still very, very interested on the next Xbox. I'm not sold on the PS4 and obviously the 720 yet so unlike you and everyone else I'll reserve judgment until I get full details on both.

Fanboys I swear....

nukeitall4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

It actually depends on what MS shows, but let's face it, at least it doesn't look like MS is acting reactively. That MS have some deep seated plans.

It's not like when the Kinect was revealed at E3 and then Sony came out with an extremely nervous looking Richard Marks with an amateurish presentation that looks like it was conceived hours after MS E3 presentation.

That's the thing, if MS rushes to announce things it might not be announced right and be perceived negatively.

Fact of the matter is, nothing is sold until consumers buy it and that won't be until at least 6 months from now.

Remember how the press said at $150 nobody would buy Kinect. Over 20 million sold later, it sold better than the original Xbox!

Now, remember how the 3DS was believed to perform very badly, and the PS Vita was praised to high heavens by the media? Fast forward, and the 3DS is selling like hotcakes and PS Vita well isn't gaining traction at all.

Point is, there is plenty of time to announce and inform. The big question is, what does MS have to show?

More importantly than that is the execution and management of all that. Nintendo turned 3DS fortunes around, while Sony has yet to achieve anything with the PS Vita.

Talk is easy, but execution is what matters.

majiebeast4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

Yeah you can schedule a tech demo in 1 day... Do you know how stupid you sound? Also atleast Sony's move demo was real, same cant be said for kinect which was alot of smoke and mirrors and bad acting.

MikeMyers4051d ago

The speculations and frenzy we see on forums really doesn't amount to much. What matters is what happens at the retail end. There will be plenty of time for consumers to decide which one to get or more than one system.

Some people are just impatient. I like being surprised, often E3 is ruined because of so many early leaks. You're right, Microsoft should not react to the PS4 announcement just for the sale of trying to be relevant. They should stick to their original plan (whatever that may be) and stay the course.

What I want to see from Microsoft at E3 (if that is truly when we hear about the next Xbox first) is for them to come out very confidentially and abolish the rumors front and center. Say "no, we are not forcing you to stay connected online". "No, we are not abandoning the used market". They reveal the specs and the price and the release date. That would shut everyone up and then move on to what the Xbox has to offer. Show real games running. Show Kinect 2 if they are going that route in real applications and not smoke and mirrors.

I want them to treat me with respect and not as being naive. We've seen enough over the years at E3 that never really materialize or mocked up tech demo's. It's time for Microsoft to put up or shut up. Nobody wants to hear about how well Xbox Live is doing or how many systems they have sold in the U.S. They need to be a global market and not have Live hide behind a pay wall.

otherZinc4050d ago

I also like what M$ is doing:

M$ is about to hit that "Game winning buzzer beater" that the opposing team can do nothing to combat because theres no time left on the clock.

M$ waiting til E3 is the best strategy of all times. If they come with what I'm thinking, others will be left scrambling for attention.

I think M$ sees an opportunity for a game winning shot & they're going hard after the Video Game Market.

Like it or not, most will be impressed and haters will not be able to deny what they deliver.

nukeitall4050d ago

@majiebeast:

You know what is stupid? To schedule a tech demo in 1-day for one of the biggest trade shows in the year in front of millions of people.

A lot of these things are at least planned far in advanced and re-hearsed frequently. If you don't you risk looking like Sony did with PS Move announcement.

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ps3_pwns4051d ago

i seen people say just wait for e3 when it comes to m$ for the past few years because ps3 been having news way before e3 then when e3 comes out ps3 has even more blow out news. but when e3 comes for M$ its just a bunch of kinect stuff for the past 3 years and either gears or halo and thats pretty much it lol.

i think microsoft kind of screwd so its better to hide the bad news until later instead of having to say the bad new now and then later. When people dont divulge information is because they have very little of it or its bad.

DOMination-4051d ago

Genuine question. What was the blow-out news from Sony's e3 conference last year?

JeffGUNZ4051d ago

How does that tell you that? Let's think for a second, shall we? On January 2, 2013, MS launched a website that counted down to E3, don't believe me, here check the link, Major Nelson even kept the original posted date up top to confirm. http://majornelson.com/2013...
Now, that was posted prior to Sony announcing their 02/20/2013 conference. MS has never had a countdown to E3 before, so let's try and use our brains here. What could that countdown be fore? Hey, you know what, maybe it could be for their new console? Who would have thought. All these signs clearly point to an E3 reveal and there has been absolutely nothing that shows to an earlier reveal date. If ANYTHING, the fact that MS is sticking to their original plan shows they are not intimidated and confident in their product. The only thing we can do is wait, well, most of us, you'll continue trolling.

OpieWinston4050d ago

Everyone knows your sold on the PS4. I see you comment on like every PS4 or 720 story.

Personally I like Xbox exclusives, and prefer to enjoy my massive amount of Steam games :D.

All these arguments about 720 and PS4. We all know Steam is the best gaming system (Yeah I know it's just a distributor.)

But I will agree Playstation has a few exclusives that are awesome...None of the Quantic Dream games come to mind...I play games when i want to play games, I watch movies when I want to watch movies.

Console wars.................

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Freedomland4051d ago

If they keep their silence, they will lose lot of consumers because Microsoft is giving them the chance to make up their mind and once it's done, it will be very difficult to change it again.
Silence is also creating lot of rumors which can have repercussions.

JeffGUNZ4051d ago

Give it a rest. You think you, some guy on n4g.com knows how a business should run over one of the most successful companies in America. Do you people read your comments before you post? All armchair experts and CEO's on this site.

Freedomland4051d ago (Edited 4050d ago )

My friend, this is just an opinion, and about the companies, if they knew everything no company wouldn't ever be bankrupted.

JeffGUNZ4050d ago

I respect your opinion, but your statement comes across as a fact. Glad you clarified. I agree many businesses close due to lack of leadership, business moves, etc, but MS is not one of those businesses.

Knightofelemia4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

I actually like the silence about the Xbox720 its buiding hype for me. It makes me want to see what options it has to offer. What kind of ponies are under its hood and what the line up of games its going to offer. Its not like the hype of Final Fantasy VS13 with a few dabbles here a little info there and maybe a few videos, Personally I lost the hype on that game and could careless about it now. But the hype with the Xbox720 is you it will be released and you'll be able to play it and be excited about the console. Not like waiting half a console generation for Final Fantasy VS13. I just want Microsoft to test and amp up quality control on the console lord knows another RROD problem would be bad.

gamertk4214051d ago

I sense some hurt feelings regarding FFV13.

B-radical4051d ago

Well we only have speculations so far. Double precision gpu or a weak gpu. Kinnect to play or not kinnect to play. None the less the silence better pay off.

thechosenone4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

He makes an excellent point.

"For next-gen consoles, momentum appears to be suggesting that unless a more progressive platform-holder emerges after these months of silence and turmoil, they might awaken too late to find the industry changed around them. And by then it'll be too late."

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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