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Has Nintendo Already Become An Afterthought In the Next Generation Battle

Gareth at Skewed and Reviewed has posted an opinion piece that asks if Nintendo is already an afterthought in the battle for the next generation. He cites a lack of buzz and sales for the new Nintendo system and states that the 2013 holiday season may bea make or break time for the Wii U with the launch of new systems coming from Sony and Microsoft.

GuruStarr784476d ago

As a Wii U owner, I've pondered the same question, but in the end, it all really comes down to Nintendo delivering "the Goods"..

Games like Metroid, Zelda, a new mario galaxy, mario kart, etc.. etc, will eventually validate my purchase... I'm not worried about the Wii U not getting a next-gen call of duty port... personally, If I get those types of games, I'll get them on the PS4 or the next xbox... where there's trophy/achiement support and a larger online community..

NastyLeftHook04476d ago

I agree, Im all for next gen too with these amazing things that are happening with ps4 ect, but i also love the nintendo franchises. zelda, metroid, starfox, mario, ect are reasons i will get a wii u. nostalgia.

chrisarsenalsavart4475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

just bought mine this week end for £200 deluxe pack brand new and although i will be buying the ps4, i am still pretty pleased with my purchase. and wiiu doesn,t need to sell like wii to be a success. when i hear people comparing the wiiu with the cube, i feel pretty good about it because if i can get as much great experiences with the wiiu as i had with the cube then i will be a happy man.
nintendo will never be an afterthought in my heart.
wait for the new zelda, and metroid, and you ,ll see what i am talkng about

ATi_Elite4475d ago

Yeh but when is Nintendo gonna start pumping out the High quality first party games?

this Christmas is gonna be over loaded with PS4/x720 stuff that the WiiU is just gonna get drowned.

I don't think Mario is gonna save Nintendo this time around as they have wasted too much time!

Munnkyman4475d ago

I think with the ps4 and xbox is going to be about price. If they are around 399 they well sell alot, but if the price is more then than that it will be harder for them to move consoles. W/e nintendo comes out with by the end of the year will move wii u's no matter whats coming out

Ck1x4474d ago

I guarantee that the new WiiU 3d Mario will outsell any PS4/720 game by a very large margin come this Christmas hands down...

Picture_Dancer4475d ago

Don't you think it is sad that Nintendo only offers the same games over and over again: Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc. I think it is worse scheme than new call of duty games, or the same Fifa games wvery year. Nintendo is sellind the same games since their first console.

Nintendo offers worst sequelstation in the history and the least innovative and new IPs.

Such commercial company aimed only for money.

chrisarsenalsavart4475d ago

the only reason you feel that way is because third party publishrs did not support nintendo the way they done with the other two.
and please every company is about making money.

KentBlake4475d ago

I don't see how anyone could disagree with you. It is a fact that Nintendo uses the same franchises since the beginning. I'm not a Nintendo hater at all, and I hope e WiiU does well, but they really need to step up their game if they want to compete with Sony and MS. The Nintendo fans are getting older and I don't see them creating a new fanbase.

They need a lot of new exclusive IPs to stay alive during next-gen, especially because third party support is gonna disappear once PS4 and NextBox arrive.

Ck1x4474d ago (Edited 4474d ago )

I have stated this before and I'll state it again! Its not that Nintendo needs new IP's so much, as it would be better for them to revisit some of their many existing ones that they have created in the past and update those. With all the credit you guys give to Sony for all the new IP's they bring out every Gen(lol). Nintendo's total list of owned franchises that they haven't even touched in years trounces Sony's list of games in number easily. You guys can't use the excuse that well isn't it obvious since Nintendo has been out much longer, because according to you N4G trolls Nintendo has never done anything outside of the Mario, Metroid and Zelda games...

BosSSyndrome4474d ago

Same IP's, different games. That simple.

miyamoto4474d ago (Edited 4474d ago )

Nintendo and Mario is like the McDonald's and Happy Meal of gaming franchises.

Whether you like it or not this is how franchise business go.

They have to keep the same formula through the years or it will be a different product altogether.

Its up to you if you will still eat it.

deafdani4473d ago

Mario 64 isn't the same as Mario Sunshine isn't the same as Mario Galaxy.

Zelda Ocarina isn't the same as Majora's Mask isn't the same as Wind Waker isn't the same as Twilight Princess (well, Twilight is similar in some things to Ocarina, I'll give you that)... isn't the same as Skyward Sword.

Metroid Prime 1, 2, and 3 are similar, of course. But they weren't released in a yearly basis. Also, Metroid Other M is VERY different to the Prime games, and it's been hated a lot, despite it actually being a pretty good game. Flawed in some areas, yes, but still pretty damn good.

But whatever, haters like you will only hate Nintendo just for the sake of it.

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AsimLeonheart4475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

Yes, you can get games like COD on PS4 or XBOX720 and keep Wii U only for exclusives but not everybody thinks like that. Most people can only afford a single console so they choose the one with the most games that suit their tastes. People will still buy Wii U but without major third party games, Wii U will lack mass appeal as THE console to own. As a result, only hardcore Nintendo fans interested in their first party titles will buy it as a secondary console. Third party support is essential for sales and competing with other consoles (the original Wii is an exception here which had the advantage of motion controls).

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jcnba284476d ago

Nintendo have nothing to worry about. Get N or get OUT! :)

LOL_WUT4474d ago

You sound way too confident anything can happen... ;)

Garethvk4476d ago

Thank you. I can honestly say I have been unimpressed so far. Not only that, but Nintendo has offered very poor supoort to media. Once it was launched, they have been very stingy on news and review materials to many in the press. We were lucky as we have been given good access to the system and games, but honestly I think I have turned the console on more in the past 2 months to show my wife movie trailers on the big screen downstairs more than I have to play a game. I played ZombieU for a few minutes again last week to show the console to a guest. They were not impressed with how a person has to stand constantly to play that game nor with the control system. Mario looked a bit better to him but he noted how it did not look that much better than the last one he played.

I really hope that what is coming is good, and that by the time we get to E3 we will have tons of great looking games to write about and cover.

NastyLeftHook04476d ago

yes, i believe its all in the developers hands to maximize its potential. the franchises are there, but they need to really start setting the bar higher for itself for the wii u.

GuruStarr784475d ago (Edited 4475d ago )

Yeah... as much as I REALLY want to play something on my WII U, there's nothing... I'm burnt out on 2d mario and ZombiU just wasn't that great.. I'm thinking about getting the new lego undercover game, but it seems almost too juvenile for my taste... Until we get something, it'll just serve as a cool "netflix player"..

oh and btw; monster hunter 3 ultimate, I rented.... and really disliked it..

C-Thunder4475d ago

Why did you buy it? The four games you listed are the only major games that were expected to release to this point, except for Rayman. Shouldn't you have expected to feel this way?

wantonGamer4475d ago

You have to stand to play Zombi U ? Why ?

BosSSyndrome4474d ago

Dunno wth he's talking about, I never stood once through the whole game.

Garethvk4476d ago

We were there at E3 in the Nokia theater when they announced it in 2011 and I thought it had promise. When we saw it in 2012 I was not that impressed as what I saw were games that were only slightly better graphic wise from the Wii in terms of Nintendo exclusives and third party games that did not look that much better than what we get on the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3.

During Comic Con they had a special area for press to play the systems that was not open to the public and this allowed us to reallly get an idea for it. I asked my wife if she thinks it is worth getting, and she said yes, for the reason that it looks like a fun system for social gaming and entertaining at parties like the way Wii Sports was played. She liked the new Mario Bros alot but I see that she is more interested in SimCity and Dance Central 3 than she is in anything for the Wii U. I am doing reviews so my story is a bit different, but Bioshock Infinite, and Starcraft: Heart of the Swarm have far more draw for me currently than anything they have out. I want to see something more than a casual or childs game with better graphics. They have the hardware, lets see a solid game with good online play that we will want to get. They do not have a signature game for the unit as of yet. Nintendo fans will play Mario, Smash Bros and such, but they need a big time hook.

Chrono4475d ago

I think Nintendo fans mostly care about Nintendo's own IPs only.

colonel1794475d ago

It's actually true. I want a Wii U ONLY for Nintendo games. Every friend who wants one, also wants the same. I don't know anyone who wants to play Fifa, Mass Effect 3, etc on a Nintendo console.

I am waiting to see the new Zelda and new Mario, which they already said they are coming, and which other franchises get announced to decide if I buy one.

lilbroRx4475d ago

You have some strange friends. Me and most of my friends by Nintendo creative games and for the exsclusives like Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101 and Monoliths Xeno title.

I've owned every Nintendo console exept the SNES and I had a huge library on each, but 1st party Nintendo games were rarely a part of it aside from Metroid.

Ck1x4474d ago

While this is a true statement it should also be the reason that people want a PS4 or bought a PS3! I can't tell you hypocritical it is for people to run to these community sites and tout Sony exclusives when most of you would rather play some halfed baked game, instead of some exclusive game Sony spent millions and millions of dollars to create... Just go look at the top 10 games on the sales chart for both the Wii and the PS3. I guarantee that 8 out of the top selling games on the Wii are all Nintendo games and 7-8 out of the 10 on PS3 are probably 3rd party. While many may argue well Nintendo doesn't have very strong 3rd party support and this would be true dating back to the N64. The number one selling game on Sonys console should still be a Sony created IP though. The fact of the matter is that in the end Nintendo has more brand loyalty than Sony does. Sony could sell 70million of the PS4 this Gen to Nintendo's 30million for the WiiU and I guarantee overall Nintendo's games would sell higher and be more profitable for Nintendo then Sony's hands down.

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes1d 12h ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow12d ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr2d ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg1d 23h ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1251d 19h ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal1d 13h ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7222d ago (Edited 22d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX22d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK22d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog22d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor22d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje23d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra22d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje22d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac22d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex22d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje22d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter21d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake23d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos23d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8622d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos22d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8622d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr21d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8621d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2322d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos22d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker22d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg22d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake22d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr21d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B22d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

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Obscure_Observer42d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj41d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.