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The PS4 Will Be "True" 3D; Unlike The PS3

Joseph DiGrado Writes: "With Sony introducing 3D to the PS3 this generation for their BluRay movies and games, they still had some slightly big setbacks as far as being perfect. The PS3 uses HDMI 1.3 which limited the...

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greenpowerz4064d ago ShowReplies(11)
Cyb3r4064d ago

Didnt Sony say that the PS4 will only use 4K TVs for movies not games

PoSTedUP4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

no you can even play games on the PS3 on a 4k TV but it dosent support it so it will be upscaled. the PS4 will most likely be upscaled games too bc i dont think any game will be 4k native resolution from what i understand.

reynod4064d ago

The more important question is how many games will the PS4 support in 3D?

PS3 had 3D support as a marketing check mark. It hardly supported more than 30 3D games.

Meanwhile PC on the other hand supports more than 600 3D games.

Once again console makers promise more and deliver less. Ill wait and see how many games the PS4 supports in 3D, until then this is all hype.

ICECREAM4064d ago

@reynod

Read the article first, it's not about how many games, it's about technological comparison between ps3 and ps4.
Where ever pc fanboys read ps3 or ps4 they just disagree.

Ritsujun4063d ago

Why did PoSTedUP waste his time saying obvious stuff?

Pandamobile4064d ago

The PS4 will not support 4K game rendering output. Only movies.

Hitman07694064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

hey homie, link? p.s. the article never says ps4 has 4k games lol , its an article about 3d.

Reverent4064d ago

@Hitman, at the risk of sounding like a teenager... Pwned.

honkayjeezus4064d ago

That has to do with off the bat at launch. The 360 couldn't support 1080p at launch.

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user76939584064d ago

They have not confirm anything but most likely only PSN and PS3 remakes will be 4K native.

but is still a possible.. something is for sure, the 4K tvs do a great job at upscaling native 2k..

chaos-lockheart4064d ago

@AraK

They did confirm it "The official answer is that the PS4 supports 4K output but for personal contents, like photos or videos. Not games," Yoshida said. "PS4 games do not work on 4K."

MadLad4064d ago

The system will not support 4k gaming. Period. Nothing game related. The power is just not there.

Derekvinyard134064d ago

4k needs to be cheaper! It's 25K at my sony store

Krew_924064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Well of course. It's Sony, you can find cheaper 4K TV's, but not by much. They're still overpirced, and will be for a while.

Just like 1080p HDMI TV's were so grossly expensive upon release.

Even Sony overpirces current 1080p TV's, and the competition prices them better.

I find this hilarious: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-...

You save $1.99 with Prime!!! don't miss a deal of a life time...

chaos-lockheart4064d ago

@Krew_92

The reason why Sony have more expansive items then the competition is because the quality materials they use are high quality and quality labor. But now they are making things from china.

gtr_loh4064d ago

@chaos-lockheart. Sony always made their products in China. The only time I remember it being made in Japan was the early radio that was invented.

jmc88884064d ago

Though you can get 1600p for about $400. It's 26 or so inches and not the massive size those $25k are.

But just remember people the price (aside from potential hyperinflation) will drop.

HDTV's were going for similar prices in 1999-2000 but by 2004 they dropped in price enough so you could by a 30" 1080i HDTV for $499. I know, because I bought one, and it still works.

Thus it shouldn't be too long before we similar 4ktv's get much lower, but probably not for a few years. Probably within five you'll see them start going for sub $999. (unless hyperinflation hits, which is a real possibility before then).

jivah4063d ago

$5.5k 32" sharp igzo 4k monitor display

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saphiron4064d ago

I Just want them to add support for checkerboard 3D so we can play 1080p@60hz in 3D

bumnut4064d ago

Dont forget you need active 3D for 1080p, passive only supports 720p @60hz. Passive is capable of 1080p but only at 24hz which is no good for gaming.

GreenRanger4064d ago

I would probably get a 3DTV if they were cheaper and you didn't have to wear those glasses.

PoSTedUP4064d ago

i wouldn't mind wearing the glasses just as long as they dont mess with your eyes. i heard your best bet for games are the non-sutter frame glasses, the tv's are cheaper and for the PS3 it's more convenient because the PS3 only does 720p 3D anyways. the shurrt frame tv's are 1080p, unless you watch movies as well, im just in it for the games mostly.

Oh_Yeah4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

LG's passive 3d is easier on the eyes, no crosstalk or flickering, picture is brighter, glasses are light and cheap, you can see 3d from all angles even laying down...much better overall quality when I compared to active 3d where it's dim and flickery and you can't see off angles. Other companies are starting to adopt passive 3d and incorporate it into their sets...I've heard some people say active is better but I can't help but to think they just say that because that's what they spent their money on.. Idk maybe it depends on the person though.

kneon4064d ago

The problem with passive 3D is that it's only half the vertical or horizontal resolution depending on the manufacturer. But with a 4k Tv you can do passive 3D and still have 1080 lines of resolution since you've got 2160 to start with.

C-Thunder4064d ago

@kneon

1 eye seeing 1/2 image + 1 eye seeing 1/2 image
=
1 eye seeing full image 1/2 the time + 1 eye seeing full image 1/2 the time

In the end, your brain still receives the full 1080p image.

wsoutlaw874064d ago

I have a vizio passive 3d tv and 3d movies look great (the ones made for 3d at least) and the glasses are light so you forget you are wearing them.

kneon4062d ago

@C-Thunder

Sorry but your math makes no sense, time != space. The only way your statement works is if higher fps is the same as higher resolution, and that's just not true.

Passive 3D uses every other line all the time so it really is half the resolution. Active 3D uses all the resolution but at a high enough frequency that you don't notice.

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Software_Lover4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

I got a 42inch Vizio LED last year for 599. It works pretty good for 3d. It has built in Netflix which was a plus also. I have not noticed any issues. I do want a bigger screen though. My next Television will probably the Vizio 21:9 58inch led.

black9114064d ago

I have a SamsunG PN51E8000 cant wait!!!

Oschino19074064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Nice Tv

I got a Sony XBR55HX929 and a KDL46HX800 (previous Tv) for friends to play on. 3d is nice now for most games that have it and even simulated 3d can be nice for some games but if we get 1080p 3d at 60fps I will be glued to my TV till my head hurts.

Don't know how Samsungs 3d glasses are as I have never tried them but Sony has nice lightweight titanium framed active shutter glasses that actually look decent and work great. (Just looked them up called TDGBR750)

Don't see why people are hatin on 3d unless they don't have a 3d tv that is. I didn't use it much at first but the more content out there the more often I mess around with it. My friends always love playing games in 3d when they are over.

plmkoh4064d ago

Nice TV, the Sony HX925 has awesome 12bit colour when you plug in the PS3. Simply insane colour pop.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers19h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken6h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g15h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing15h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H915h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola11h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66914h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle14h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 7h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 6h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 2h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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