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Microsoft Already Has An Answer For Sony’s Playstation 4 Cloud Features

Gary Swaby of TheKoalition.com writes: When Sony announced the Playstation 4 at yesterdays Playstation Meeting event, there’s no denying that many spectators around the world were impressed with the connectivity. It’s clear that purchasing game streaming company Gaikai was a chess move for Sony because they have been able to completely revamp the network architecture for Playstation 4, with the help of Gaikai. As demonstrated yesterday PS4 will allow gamers to stream games before they finish downloading fully as well as allowing gamers to broadcast their gaming session to their friends. They made everything look seamless with no delay, which left me with my jaw wide open in disbelief.

Now people have been casting doubts over Microsoft‘s ability to compete with this level of functionality. It’s assumed that Playstation’s purchase of Gaikai has instantly given them the upper-hand advantage over Microsoft. However people are quickly forgetting that Microsoft already have something under their sleeves, and the information has been right under our noses this whole time.

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rbailey4098d ago

Good Article and a point that no one seemed to pay attention to. E3 should be VERY interesting indeed.

fr0sty4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Sony didn't just buy Gaikai and their knowledge, but also their patents. I'm sure MS will have an answer to Sony's cloud gaming plans, but I wouldn't say they are as far along as Sony is with Sony having acquired an entire company that was already up and running.

muttley654097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

good comment FROSTY

im sure everyone is HYPED UP

but at the moment lets everyone take a step back and ask ourselves: has SONY prevented future hackers from hacking ps4 like ps3 was 2. will there be heatsink an reballing issues like ps3 had those are my 3 big concerns. what would be a reasonable price tag?? over 450 be to much.

this is not trolling or being funny but reality facts.

after reading the article MS is to out do sony with onlive cloud?? if that is MS Trump card then they are in for BIG surprise come this E3

Martywren4097d ago

@muttley65 no system is unhackable;)

totallysane4097d ago

one thing i heard years ago still sticks with me to this day. if its electronic it CAN be hacked. the only unhackable electronic is the one thats not turned on. and I'm sure there is probably a way around that as well.

STREET x KING4097d ago

Isn't Microsoft's r&d budget for cloud 8.6 billion!? And they recruited onlive employees... yup MS definitely has something up their sleeve.

trancefreak4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Both consoles will be nearly the same but unique and, I am excited for both. For the power of the consoles Ps4 and Nextbox, I will let the games decide which console I play on.

I am sure both Sony and Microsoft will have had plenty of time to impress with designing their respective architectures. This last console generation was one of the longest and we now know Sony was working on the Ps4 not just hardware but the whole platform for 5 years.
Microsoft is no slouch either and having a windows 8 core OS with its capabilities both sides of the fence should be pleased with their perspective systems; If they are not dual console owners.

In short, I am just excited to get the next generation started. I will own both consoles for their exclusive content because I will enjoy both.

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GribbleGrunger4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Microsoft will tell you what they intend to do with Cloud gaming ... they may even have a target mock up or two, similar to Milo on the Kinect.

On the other hand, Sony will SHOW you what they're DOING with cloud gaming and have ACTUAL demos, similar to Sorcery on the MOVE.

Anyone going to mention 'copying' here? ... no? I must have hidden the irony in those sentences too well.

Mike, your there again? I don't follow you about do I. In fact, I don't follow anyone about. And are you just going to comment on my posts when you consider them negative or are you going to extend to other posts?

MikeMyers4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

"Sony will SHOW you what they DOING with cloud gaming and have ACTUAL demos"

Will they be showing it on actual hardware this time?

You see, anyone can make a sarcastic comment and give little jabs here and there but you know who should be doing that? Sony and Microsoft, not gamers.

At E3 prior to the release of the PS3 Sony showed a bunch of CGI trailers and Sorcery was delayed and fell flat after it came out, and now you want to mock Microsoft?

I don't understand you guys, you whine about how the media treats Sony, you whine about trolls and all the negativity, yet the first chance you get you're right on the attack being complete advocates for Sony's marketing campaign.

LOGICWINS,

Whatever they do they know they have an uphill battle now. Sony has eliminated the key areas that Microsoft had over them. The PS4 will have a very quick start up time. No more waiting and waiting just to play a game. With Gaikai they are serious about having a great online presence, something Xbox Live was known for. The PS4 also sounds like a developers wish list so no more inferior ports.

Now the focus will be on Microsoft to show how serious they are about actual gaming and not apps and securing partnership deals.

GribbleGrunger,

If you're going to be out here in public then you should expect people to call you out if it's justified. It's your job to defend your position, not to deflect.

LOGICWINS4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Well, we don't know what MS has up their sleeves. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure they know it has to be big. I'm thinking they're gunna make a deal with Steam. It's the only reasonable move I can think of that would make the 720 stand out from other consoles. In fact, I'm going as far as to say that Microsoft will buy Valve. Thus, the 720 and the Steambox will be the SAME thing.

@MikeMyers- I'm really excited to see what Microsoft can do when they're backed into a corner. They've never had this much pressure on them before.

CyberCam4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@LOGICWINS:
Gabe has been quoted as saying that he will never sell out to a big corp. He would rather have the company fail than to sell out and be let go in 3 years! That's what usually happens when a company is bought out.

Apparently quite a few companies have tried purchasing Valve before.

LOGICWINS4098d ago

^^He also said in an interview with Geoff Keighly that Valve had nothing in the pipeline for the PS3. A few months later, he was presenting at Sony's E3 press conference to announce Portal 2.

pixelsword4098d ago

They got 99 problems but a cloud ain't one.

greenpowerz4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Sony will show us PS4 features and services in depth like they showed PS4 hardware at its very reveal? ;)
Sony purchasing that company shows the opposite of what you're saying.

Sony knows MSFT has been working on this concept for years hense Sony buying that company as a short cut.

you didn't notice that the PS4 sounded like a Xbox 360? But beefed up! PS4 is everything the Xbox 360 is now and the Xbox720 is/was rumored to be(yet no PS4 console because of a recent change of specs reacting to MSFT rumblings)

PS4 doesn't exist It's just concept and idea's thrown together from its competitors. That is why its grand reveal boasted specs but showed little evidence of it existing. No live demos of boasted features and services, no live demo of hardware just PC running everything with Target PS4 specs.

I just hope Sony is being straight up with you guys this time from console launch date(s) to console capabilities.

Gorilla_Killa_X4097d ago

@ greenpowerz

Lol. Conspiracy theory much.

frelyler4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

@Logicwins

Steam will never ever be bought by MS. Steam is the antithesis to MS's business model. On it's own Valve is a billion dollar company, they don't need to sell and Gabe Newell has publicly said MS has too many restrictions. It would be cool, but the business models are complete opposites and MS loves having things locked down and under their direct control.

DigitalRaptor4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

@ greenpowerz

LOL Conspiracy Keanu! Your little tirade across several articles is convincing no-one. Not because Sony fans populate here, but because you're talking crap about stuff that only comes across as bitter and twisted, instead of showing hope for what was a positive showing. Most normal people can see that Sony has accepted the mistakes of their PS3 decisions to build what is, yes, a supercharged PC, but a console that is a developer's dream - thus should have gamers very excited indeed.

Quite simply, you can't deal with the fact that Sony has been getting positive reactions from not only press and gamers, but developers have come out to praise and acknowledge the direction Sony is going in. And now that arguments like "hard to program for", "inferior multiplatform ports", "inadequate online" are things of the past you're desperately clinging on to the hope that Microsoft will have the upper hand like this did this generation. The fact is, Microsoft were given that opportunity by Sony's lack of foresight this generation, and that mistake won't be repeated.

"PS4 doesn't exist It's just concept and idea's thrown together from its competitors"

What this is is a theory thrown together by you. It's basically throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks - but as we all knows the proof is in the pudding and like with so many of these premature Xbox/media arguments - you're proven wrong time and time again, and once PS4 comes out with all these fully functional games and features that gamers will be talking about, you will be eating crow for another generation running.

I find that funny, because whether you're trolling or not, you're convincing no-one that you're right, because even Xbox fans are taking notice of Sony's positive re-direction.

And PS4 is taken from competitors? So instant streaming is a competitor's idea? Which competitor is that then? Which other of Sony's competitors will allow you to jump into a friend's game and take over from them? Which other company allows instant gameplay uploads and sharing? I guess Kinect was the first of its kind... or I guess that they were inspired by the concept of the EyeToy. Not quite sure there. Or maybe the "entertainment hub" was Microsoft's idea, or maybe Sony had focused on that in the early days of this generation, whilst Microsoft lapped up that in the Xbox 360's latter days.

Do you not think that Sony buying a company to ensure a positive direction for their ambitions is the same thing as Microsoft buying a company to focus too many of their resources on casual motion-control based fluff that they also think is a positive direction for their ambitions? Double standards are very, very easy to spot mate.

I really don't know where you're getting this crap from, but it's definitely making me laugh. How does a console based on 5 years of hardware R&D, that developers are excited about based on development experience,, not exist??

Ju4097d ago

@Green. You are really trying harder and harder each round, aren't you? You'll see metal early enough, trust me ;)

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ABizzel14098d ago

"Microsoft held an event in which they invited all the former OnLive employees. This lead to Microsoft recruiting the majority of OnLive’s previous employers. In my eyes this is confirmation that Microsoft aims to completely outdo Sony when it comes to cloud gaming."

Gaikai was better than Onlive to begin with. It uses a better method of streaming the games allowing gamers to have much better connections, faster streaming, better graphics, better video compression, and better effects.

The only advantage Onlive had was playing games at 60fps (which was nice), but Gaikai is still more responsive, has less input lag, and suffers huge graphical downgrades (as in below PS360 levels).

Gakai has some work to do before streaming is a solid source for gaming. They need more servers, a way to reduce input lag, and more powerful hardware to boost game quality up to 1080p @ 60fps based on current PC standards. The first and last easy to do, and input lag should go down as more servers become available.

OnLive; however, has some serious work arounds they need to get done. Lag input, image quality, more servers, better hardware, and the fact they had to basically rebuild their team after going bankrupt. Both need work, but OnLive needs a lot of work.

darx4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Of course it's better it's Sony. /s Now cloud gaming is awesome /s

delboy4097d ago

agree with darx

Onlive and Gaikai where on pc first, and everyone was like, ah it's shit, has input lag, bad picture quality and so on.
But when Sony shows streaming games,and now suddenly it's great and wow.
WiiU brings perfect offscreen gameplay without any lag and people say it's shit.
But when Sony shows offscreen like gameplay with Vita which is full of lag and worse in any aspect compared to wiiu it's great, It's Sony so it must be great even if it's not.

ABizzel14097d ago

I really don't know where you two are coming from.

Saigon4097d ago

@delboy,

No offense but that is BS...I see what @ABizzel1 was trying to say. Pretty much with the addition of Sony, the streaming should improve a great deal, not because of Sony itself, but because they will have the financial backing to improve what is needed to stream at full capacity. This will be the same situation with MS when they launch their streaming Live service with the neXt Box. If all of the streaming companies out there had the financial backing of big companies, streaming gaming would be more successful

ABizzel14097d ago

@Saigon

I don't see how you got that from them, but even what you said wasn't exactly what I meant.

Yes with bigger companies backing them streaming will be better.

But Gaikai was already better than OnLive before Sony or MS even thought about buying them. Gaikai offered better graphics, less lag input, faster streaming, and better video compression than OnLive when both companies were on their own.

OnLive's best selling point was it ran at 60fps.

Now this is where your comment comes into play. With more support it's going to be easier for Gaikai to get their service up to a premium standard (720p / 1080p, 60fps, max 150ms lag, low powered ISP connection capable) than OnLive.

That's because Gaikai has been at work this entire time, while OnLive had to go through a foreclosure, Bankruptcy, negotiations with MS, and get a team strategy to combine what they had and what MS has into one smooth experience.

Urusernamesucks4097d ago

There both frogotten shit but the fact that onlive can run at 60 fps is impressive.

darthv724097d ago

let me ask you this. Would it not be safe to assume that with MS streaming tech, the potential for onlive would also be a better service?

MS and their silverlight for video streaming over live is significantly better than what they offered before.

They have the financial backing to take the onlive approach and make it better just as sony would do to take gaikai and make it better.

When the two were on PC they were essentially themselves. having to make compromises to their delivery to achieve the same result of streaming pc games over the web. Each one had a slightly different approach but still.

Now if both get full backing from companies that are serious about such a direction then it stands to reason that the imperfections both displayed would become less of an issue.

This is all speculation anyways. Onlive was always the rumored buyout rival for gaikai when gaikai was bought out. Its only natural to try and associate the two in such a way.

Ju4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Well, Gaikai as we know it doesn't exist any more. They have been integrated into Sony.

MS hiring OnLive personal does not change the fact that they might have bought some talent but no IP (and no whitepapers or technology in that respect). MS will have to start from scratch.

Gaikai will become the Playstation Cloud. I would not hold my breath waiting they'd stream anything else than PlayStation games, and I also would think, this might be the same as PlayStation Mobile; a little bit of a step child without a focus.

The second part where Gaikai will become available immediately is the new PlayStation Network. I also think, the "Gaikai" branch in Sony will most likely build Sony's new Network infrastructure. But now with Sony's backing and PlayStation focus.

ABizzel14096d ago

@Darth

Yes, it's just they have more work to do than Sony does with Gaikai.

Sony is replacing PSN, MS is likely trying to figure out how to evolve XBL with this service.

With the right backing both should be able to get their services up to a solid standard, but I have a bit more faith in SOny and Gaikai, because Gaikai was nearly there bach when it was a standalone service. Online had a ways to go.

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CyberCam4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

The biggest problem MS have is that although they have the OnLive ex-employees, OnLive's technology is patent and can't be used without paying licensing fees to the OnLive creators. They will have to create something simular but can't encrouch on OnLive's patent!

MS still have to create their own technology and that will take some time to get right!

JeffGUNZ4097d ago

How do you know Microsoft doesn't have it up and running and hired the staff of onlive to work on and bring enhancements to?

CyberCam4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

We'll have to wait and see, won't we? I'm just going by the Sony/Gaikai situation. Sony mentioned that it would take time for them to roll out the projected cloud features, and that's with an establish technology. MS's technology hasn't been implemented nor proven yet.

Ju4097d ago

The "Cloud" Sony mentioned is a long term project. It will not happen any time soon. They will use the PS4 to build a high performance networking infrastructure first. I would even go so far to say, it might never come. It is a wait and see situation for Sony. It can take years to build this network - we are talking about a global high speed network to reach the majority of their audience so they can play their games. Right now, selling (projected) 100Million thin clients (the PS4) is the immediate goal - and what is possible today. But depending where we are heading with internet technology and market development, I could imagine, a PS5 could be a server side installation - byt that time everything might be up and running - and the PS4 woud be a great client which by that time will be installed in million house holds. But that is more a vision than a plan. Too many unknowns. - IMO

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4098d ago

This is not a surprise.1st party game wise I think they will fall behind sony. Media features is a no brainer for MS.

AngelicIceDiamond4097d ago

You and 100 of others will be proved wrong come MS E3 or whenever MS decides to show the new console.

Playing the waiting game. I can't wait to prove you fanboys wrong.

MysticStrummer4097d ago

This is what matters to me. The new features Sony showed were cool and all but I imagine most of that will require a PS+ subscription so I probably won't be using that stuff. Exclusive games are what it's all about for me when I choose a console. I'm not interested in buying games for more than one platform so I go with the one that has the exclusives I want to play. For some that would be Microsoft. For some that would be Nintendo. For me that's Sony and there's no contest.

joab7774098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

In the end, we will see that they both are as similar as they are now. And games will be ported to the lesser quality. So, the only thing that will matter is price, online price and exclusivity, which ironically is what separates them now. And go figure, they are similar in units sold too. I think they know that it works in both their favors to compete against one another...fanboy vs. fanboy. This way the industry is happy and both of them are successful, happy and making money. I dont think it would b good for either if the other went under. Also, together, they can hold off valve and dictate software made, keeping pc gaming to a minimum. They were never corporate spies because they talked with one another the whole time. This is my conspiracy theory.

nukeitall4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Of my personal experience with Gakai and OnLive, I want very little to do with it.

It's one of those things that sounds great, but in actual use is laggy and has compression artifacts all over the place. It's like playing a bad mpeg movie in high resolution outlining the problems even more.

Cloud strategy should not be about streaming video game feed, because it works like crap even on my super fast fiber optics internet connection.

I think gamers will be disappointed when they actually get to use "streaming cloud gaming" in their home and that is why Gakai was sold and why OnLive failed. We just aren't there yet, and likely won't ever be, because the graphical leap will hit a limit where people no longer care and that hardware will be super cheap negating the whole streaming cloud gaming.

I hope MS just embedds the whole damn chip in the next Xbox for BC. I will even pay a little extra for that.

SatanSki4097d ago

Yep, i cant imagine playing streammed games. They look and play like crap.

showtimefolks4097d ago

E3 should be a lot of fun

more competition means better content for gamers. with all these announcements and upcoming announcements surrounding ps4 and next xbox i think wiiu will be a forgotten device

even at E3 everything will be about sony and ms so nintendo really has to bring their A+ game

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doctorstrange4098d ago

The difference is Sony bought Gaikai as a whole, meaning they bought the whole architecture that Gaikai spent years on. With OnLive hires, they don't get any of that and have to start ground up.

maniacmayhem4098d ago

You really think that what you mentioned is some kind of hurdle for a giant software/hardware company like MS? You'd be fooling yourself if you think that MS couldn't match or exceed what Sony has with their cloud service.

Dragos754098d ago

People tend to forget MS has been pushing cloud for years now. Even when sony was pushing BR disc MS was saying that cloud was the future. It was a smart move buying Gaikai. It probably saved them tons of money but then again it will cost them tons to get the thing up and running the way they want. I bet MS is one step ahead of them in this.

mistertwoturbo4098d ago

You'd be fooling yourself to think even Microsoft can magically pull a streaming cloud service out of their @$$.

It is some complex stuff to implement. Why do you think OnLive failed in the first place?

1. It's hard.
2. It's hard.
3. It IS HARD.

If it was so easy, we'd see more companies do it. But what did we have? Gaikai and OnLive, with the latter failing.

maniacmayhem4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@Misterwoturbo

"You'd be fooling yourself to think even Microsoft can magically pull a streaming cloud service out of their @$$. "

MS already have a cloud service, in case you missed their Windows8/laptop commercials where they promote their cloud.

Are you really comparing start up companies to MS who have already established a well cemented foothold in the technology field? You think MS can't pull it off because it's hard, hard, HARD and yet OnLive and Gaikai could but couldn't maintain only because of lack of services, profit and money. Both of which MS has ample of?

As the article stated MS has employed a number of people from OnLive who already have the knowledge and experience of how a cloud gaming service works and functions. That and MS's own computer scientists, you really, actually believe it's too hard for MS?

I think you're the one who's fooling yourself.

Sheikh Yerbouti4097d ago

For one he said STREAMING cloud service...suggesting the additional functionality that makes GAIKAI different from Amazon or DropBox.

Patents will be another barrier, like others are saying.

Don't put too much faith in a company that thought a software solution would fix RROD. Just saying...

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rpd1234098d ago

That might actually be better. You build the system from the ground up for the console, not the other way around. Either way, it seems that both companies will have cloud gaming next gen.

dafegamer4098d ago

wasnt gaikai a stronger company than onlive overall?

Studio-YaMi4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

People "tend" to forget that fact,ignore them ! xD

JeffGUNZ4097d ago

Microsoft didn't buy onlive, they hired a group of their employees who are probably tasked to running and maintaining their OWN cloud service. MS already has cloud service with Windows 8/Tablets/Windows phone. You think they don't have something ready for the next gen????

majorw24097d ago

Having a 'Cloud' to copy office files to is quite different than a 'Cloud' to stream games running on central servers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

MS has not been a part of the 'Cloud Gaming' field until they hired some left-over OnLive employees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Venomousfatman4098d ago

Now I bet you a lot of the next console war is the war for Streaming Retail Games. Which company can deliver the best and seamless service around. Going to be crazy over the next few years once these new consoles are out in the market.

Qrphe4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Sorry, I replied to the wrong person.

MadMen4098d ago

MS is a software company first, no doubt they are more than ready and already years ahead in planning on this for Xbox.

Qrphe4098d ago

The same could be said for Gaikai since it had been working for years on this stuff exclusively.

But you're right, Microsoft, as a large corporation, has been researching this for years just like many other projects that we have no idea they've been working on.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188122h ago(Edited 22h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2313h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos3h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled18h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies6h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k422h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot21h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon615862h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

RNTody21h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead11h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage4h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast21h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197920h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel12h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage4h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 22h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 12h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

1d 7h ago
Hereandthere1d 3h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 9h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

1d 7h ago
Hereandthere1d 3h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow13h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 3h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow13h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney8h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 22h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 22h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 8h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 7h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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