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The X-Men: Xbox UK's Jon Grimes and Harvey Eagle on a successful year for 360

Microsoft UK bosses have suggested that whatever Sony announces next week won't damage Xbox 360.

Walker4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us .

Cocozero4521d ago

Exactly, unless they announce another pricecut

zeee4521d ago

It depends on the release date and of curse ps3 pricing. Lets not forget that ps2 still sold after ps4 launch. I guess a drop to $199 or $149 price point is going to explode ps3 sales even after the ps4 announcement. If Sony does announce a price drop, Microsoft are going to respond as well. They will not let Sony walk all over them and I hope they do. It'll be great for the gaming industry.

RuleofOne343 4521d ago

or it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

RuleofOne343 4521d ago

better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

decrypt4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

"better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over."

How will they be screwing themselves over. Benefits of no BC:

Can Sell remakes (hell they can be selling remakes of remakes God of war collection for PS4, Console gamers be prepared to get milked again).

Buyers of new console dont have old games so need to run out buy new games.

I see a win win situation for console makers not to release BC, and a lose lose situation for the console gamer.

Infact they would be in a better situation to discontinue online support for the PS3 few years after the PS4, forcing more people to buy the new console, not like console gamers can do anything about online getting shut down. Most fanboys will infact cheer the fact that they are getting screwed.. saying stuff like "oh they need to discontinue online support to better support PS4" lol.

DOMination-4520d ago

Well i think its kinda bad PR to not have BC and i imagine with many people it might be one of the deciding factors early on. Then making them pay again for a game they already own via a streaming service isn't going to sit well for some people.

Of course there are also many people who won't care about ps3 games when there's better ps4 titles to play. That's my view and if gaikai is cheap enough i would t have a problem buying the one or two games i may want to revisit in the coming years.

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DigitalSmoke4521d ago

you're wrong, the Last Of Us will go beyond Uncharted sales, easily.
And yes it will hurt the Xbox, it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says.

koehler834521d ago

I'm curious about that.

Uncharted clearly has a broader appeal than Last of Us. I actually expect it to go the other way and not out-perform it. That may be a biased perspective because I'm not particularly interested in it myself, despite it obviously being amazingly high-quality.

I'm very interested to see how it plays out. In any event, I'm definitely not rooting for it to fail.

Jdoki4521d ago

I think we'd need to look at Uncharted 1 sales vs Last of Us, and then adjust for the larger install base now to really compare the two.

I think the game will be a success, but not sure it will outsell Uncharted 2 or 3 as it is a new IP. Although it also depends on how hard Sony market it. Uncharted 3 got a lot of TV adverts in the UK.

koehler834520d ago

@Jdoki

I think a comparison with Drake's Fortune, adjusted for a massive increase in userbase is probably a fair metric.

Oh_Yeah4520d ago (Edited 4520d ago )

Your right, The Last of Us will probably sell better than Uncharted. One reason, zombies. People will eat anything up if it's got zombies in it

Jek_Porkins4520d ago

So you are saying Microsoft is lying about sales? 2012 wasn't as good for Microsoft as 2011, but 2011 saw the Xbox 360's best selling year on the market. When you sell 1 million consoles on Black Friday alone, you are doing something right and you don't have much to complain about.

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nukeitall4521d ago

I think there is some minor damage to sales, due to some people telling "regular customers" that a new one will be out, but the vast majority won't know.

If you know and follow the announcement, you likely already own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 by now.

It certainly wouldn't affect game sales, as people still want to consume the content now, not in 10 months.

@DigitalSmoke:

"it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says."

You sure are trying to fan the smoke, but in this case there is no fire. So how about you show us instead of making up claims?

USEYOURFIST4520d ago

Only on n4g can you get disagrees for stating a completely valid point, sometimes I think hardcore gamers who come on sites like this forget they are just one section of the gaming consumer. I know many console buyers, who if it wasn't for me telling them, would no nothing of next gen until it was in the shops

morkendo234521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

HAPPY VALENTINE DAY LADIES haaaaaa

something new besides complainting.

Ghoul4521d ago

Its that simple guys as allways with big companys

If a huge company gives out a statement saying they dont care means they DO care

If a huge company doesnt care they just dont care and them dont comment it at all

Whatdo you do when somene tells you to not care and just relax
Exactly you SHOULD start caring since hes trying to hold you down.

RiseUp444520d ago

There are more people playing ps3 now than ever before, The last of us will be a hit only if it is marketed properly and the PS4 announcement will not do anything to its launch at all.

subtenko4520d ago

That doesnt make any sense, a game as good as The last of us will make me still buy it even if the PS4 is announced. What you think when they say "Here is the PS4!" That I will say "Well I dont want the last of us game anymore"? That doesnt make sense

DeadlyFire4520d ago

Not if backwards compatible. :P

dcbronco4520d ago

Walker announcing the PS4 will most likely hurt PS3 sales. So what. This generation is over. But it will do nothing to hurt sales of games. There are 75 million PS3s out there. Several million of those owners will still buy a good game.

garos824520d ago

excactly this. ill be still buying ps3 games when ps4 is finally released (whenever that is) and thats because i never buy new hardware on day 1. not because i dont want too but because its best to weather the storm before any shortcomings of any console.
traditionally all consoles i have ever bought have usually been around their first drop in price except for ps2 which i got as a present

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4520d ago (Edited 4520d ago )

@Walker

"Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us ."

They just stop selling ps2 1 month ago.. sooo..

Donnieboi4520d ago

Lol I laughed when the UK xbox heads say that: especially since PS3 is already beating Xbox 360 in the UK. If they think PS4's added presence won't have an effect, then they are dellusional. No wonder M$ has lost touch with it's [former] user-base. With clueless men like that running the company, it's amazing Xbox even sells anymore. Wow, those 2 men must be high off of those Xbox Live fees. Money sure has a way of clouding one's vision.

AngelicIceDiamond4520d ago (Edited 4520d ago )

Realistically a PS4 announcement won't hurt the sales of the Xbox because its an ANNOUNCEMENT. Its not getting released the next day.

The interview confirms MS is no. no. 1 in the market. Not sure if that's in the UK or WW.

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iNathan4521d ago

But Xbox has nothing to do with PlayStation

Who buys Xbox wont buy Playstation 4 thats for sure.

So it wont affect but once Next Gen Xbox is announced 360 is done.

hennessey864521d ago

Well I'm an Xbox gamer and am with out a shadow of a doubt buying the PS4 as I did the PS3. Some of us are gamers not fanboys you no

Yi-Long4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

... I'll buy whichever consoles look good to me.

This generation those have been the 360 and the PS4, and next-gen it will just depend on what the new consoles will be capable of, and if there will be any irritating limitations or whatever. ('always online' demands, game-activation to restrict 2nd hand games sales, etc etc)

If the next-gen consoles aren't backwards compatible forinstance, there's a very big chance I'll wait for the 'Steambox'.

I started this generation as an Xbox fan, never having owned a Playstation system before. And the 360 has been great as well.

However, the last few years Microsoft has been messing up IMHO (Personally not interested in motion-sensitive gaming, nor dashboard apps), and I feel Sony has improved after a slow start and has looked after my needs as a gamer more than MS, so at the moment I'm a bit more interested in the new PS4 than I am about the Xbox8.

Yi-Long4521d ago

... 'PS4' should be PS3, obviously.

HITANDRUN4520d ago

I agree, I think most of us cant afford 2 consoles, I only have PS3, but I think it was a mistake. I will wait and see what happened next gen, I almost gt the wiiu, im glad I did not.

BiggCMan4521d ago

^Exactly... Wtf is that about?? A lot of people who rode with Sony with PS1 and PS2 still shifted to the 360 only because it was the first HD console released, and they were disappointed (rightfully) with the PS3 when it had first launched.

Cocozero4521d ago

Why would they be scared they are about to past the Wii and become No 1 in the UK (as said in the MCV article where this comes from) and the US.

MS are ready to dominate next gen.

Prodigy-X4521d ago

PS3 77 million
360 76 million

Cocozero4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

PS3: 75.1ml
360: 76.9ml

Check OFFCIAL finacial reports and try again ;)

@DigitalSmoke
Ok fine then the 360 is No 1 in the US and UK the too biggest regions. You just made the PS3 look even worse lol

DigitalSmoke4521d ago

Wii isn't even in the battle dude, its a kids toy which you Breakbox 3Fixme fools only use as a weapon against the superior Playstation 3.

Why dont you talk about the lack of exclusives?
What is it 12 against 1?

Its "hillarios"!!!! Kinect fan!

-MD-4521d ago

PS2 - 155 million
PS3 - 77 million

Embarrassing...

GribbleGrunger4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

I'm sure once the PS3 has been on the market for as long as the PS2 was, that figure won't be quite so embarrassing then. It's interesting that you want to quote lifetimes sales for the PS2. Why didn't you find the sales for the PS2 at the point the PS3 released? The PS3 will never sell as many as the PS2 but it won't be at 77 million for another six years. My guess would be 115 million lifetime sales.

xursz4521d ago

I must say, was that the best you could come up with? Pitting PS2 numbers to PS3? And calling it embarrassing?

PS2 - 155 million
XBOX+Xbox360 - 110 million

What's embarrassing.

Karpetburnz4521d ago (Edited 4521d ago )

@-MD-

PS2 is 12 years old
PS3 is only 6 years old.

You wait until PS3 is 12 years old, then thats when you can compare the sales between the two, Sure PS3 wont sell as well as PS2, but It wont be the HUGE gap you Xbots make it out to be, PS3 is well on track to selling over at least 110-120 million.

And Sony will be the only company to have their console sell over 100 million 3 generations in a row, While Microsoft can barely do that with their 2 consoles sales put together.

MikeMyers4520d ago (Edited 4520d ago )

They won't be manufacturing PS3's for the next 6 years. You cannot use the PS2 as a level of expectations. The PS2 was hugely popular. Do you guys really think Nintendo is going to be making Wii's after 10 years of being on the market?

Both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 will continue to see year over year drops in sales. The market has become too competitive and is looking to ramp up in switching over to the next generation. The level of software support the PS2 got after the PS3 came out will not be the same once the PS4 comes out.

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PFFT4520d ago

Actually, its sony thats scared. Werent they the ones that said that they would let Ms make the first move??? Then they came out saying that they would have a special event with an announcement on the 21st of Feb. If that doesnt scream fear i dont know what does.

kenshiro1004520d ago

And you took PR talk as the gospel truth? What was Sony going to say - we're going in first? They're not going to let Microsoft know what they're planning...

Common sense, use it.

GribbleGrunger4521d ago

'The console that you bought when we launch versus the one today is totally different.'

Without question.

jeffgoldwin4521d ago

correct. the ps3 launch had bc, current version does not

nukeitall4521d ago

My PS3 also used to have OtherOS, before Sony legally stole that feature away from me.

Minato-Namikaze4520d ago

Doesn't even matter, I have so many ps3 games, I dont even have time to go back and play my ps2 games. BC is really only needed for the 1st year or two.

Lvl_up_gamer4520d ago

Don't forget:

Phat had more USB ports
touch sensitive on/off and eject buttons
auto loader
overall better material used for the design

Chris5584521d ago

Well ps4 but 2013exlusive games will

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Xbox Mass layoffs Are Expected To Hit On July 2, 2025

The previously rumored mass layoffs at Xbox are expected to happen on Wednesday, July 2, 2025, according to a new rumor.

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lukasmain12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

They will have fired close to 20,000 people all up after this round of lay-offs coming, since the ABK deal announcement in January 2022. Shocking really

January 2023:
Microsoft laid off 10,000 employees, which was a significant workforce reduction.

January 2024:
Approximately 1,900 gaming employees were laid off following the Activision Blizzard acquisition.

May 2025:
Microsoft announced a further 6,000 layoffs as part of an organizational shift.

June 2025:
Additional layoffs, including 650 in the gaming business, focused on corporate and support functions

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Obscure_Observer11h ago

"They will have fired close to 20,000 people all up after this round of lay-offs coming, since the ABK deal announcement in January 2022. Shocking really"

It's not that shocking considering these numbers aren't just Xbox numbers as you're deliberately trying to make it seem for some reason.

Interestingly, another no shocking fact is that whenever Microsoft releases its quarterly earnings reports, you're quick to point out that those numbers aren't exclusive to Xbox. Yeah... go figure.

Ganif8h ago

They also fired around 2500 people across Microsoft's gaming divisions and Zenimax shortly after buying it, and before they closed down 4 studios including Arkane and Tango.

I remember Satya boasting about how compassionate he was for splitting the list 50/50 across the two companies.

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Obscure_Observer6h ago

"They also fired around 2500 people across Microsoft's gaming divisions and Zenimax shortly after buying it"

Bring your sources. I´ll wait.

1dmj4h ago

He doesn’t have any sources lol

He also forgot that Sony does layoffs too

Hereandthere9h ago

Let's hope its not as bad as socials are making it, good luck to those that unfortunately lose their jobs.

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Lightning778h ago

Could be not as bad could be horrible. But it's Ms so I'm expecting the absolute worst.

-Foxtrot8h ago

Sometimes I feel like they brought in Sarah to take the heat away from Phil.

Phil has always stuck his nose into everything Xbox related when it's something positive or at least neutral but as soon as they went the multiplatform root he's stood back and let Sarah do most of the talking in terms of PR. Now they are doing the same with layoffs.

The person who should be let go is Phil himself.

RhinoGamer886h ago

Phil and his inner circle of circle jerk bros like AG.

Obscure_Observer5h ago

"Phil has always stuck his nose into everything Xbox related when it's something positive or at least neutral but as soon as they went the multiplatform root he's stood back and let Sarah do most of the talking in terms of PR. Now they are doing the same with layoffs."

You have no idea what you´re talking about.

*IF* Microsoft decides to address the upcoming layoffs, Matt Booty will be the one in the spotlight since he is the president of XGS.

Phil will probably be on some bs drama later doing interviews telling people how "devastated" and "sorry" he is for those affected while wiping away his tears with money.

Sarah is the President of Xbox (hardware) so she will be better off taking care of hers business and let both Matt and Phil face the backlash.

Jingsing1h ago

Amen to that, All of Phil's industry peers have left or moved on in the time he has been at Xbox. He is like a football manager that doesn't know when to go. I'm almost convinced he just wants to keep holding on so he can leave on a high (egotistical). But he is just causing more damage than good.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy012d ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN1d 12h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga1d 11h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6381d 10h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein1d 9h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN1d 4h ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts1d 11h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark1d 21h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils3d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent752d ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai4d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning774d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher3d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor3d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde3d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z2d ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey862d ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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