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The X-Men: Xbox UK's Jon Grimes and Harvey Eagle on a successful year for 360

Microsoft UK bosses have suggested that whatever Sony announces next week won't damage Xbox 360.

Walker4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us .

Cocozero4097d ago

Exactly, unless they announce another pricecut

zeee4097d ago

It depends on the release date and of curse ps3 pricing. Lets not forget that ps2 still sold after ps4 launch. I guess a drop to $199 or $149 price point is going to explode ps3 sales even after the ps4 announcement. If Sony does announce a price drop, Microsoft are going to respond as well. They will not let Sony walk all over them and I hope they do. It'll be great for the gaming industry.

RuleofOne343 4097d ago

or it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

RuleofOne343 4097d ago

better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over.

decrypt4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

"better yet it come with BC, cause if not they would be screwing themselves over."

How will they be screwing themselves over. Benefits of no BC:

Can Sell remakes (hell they can be selling remakes of remakes God of war collection for PS4, Console gamers be prepared to get milked again).

Buyers of new console dont have old games so need to run out buy new games.

I see a win win situation for console makers not to release BC, and a lose lose situation for the console gamer.

Infact they would be in a better situation to discontinue online support for the PS3 few years after the PS4, forcing more people to buy the new console, not like console gamers can do anything about online getting shut down. Most fanboys will infact cheer the fact that they are getting screwed.. saying stuff like "oh they need to discontinue online support to better support PS4" lol.

DOMination-4096d ago

Well i think its kinda bad PR to not have BC and i imagine with many people it might be one of the deciding factors early on. Then making them pay again for a game they already own via a streaming service isn't going to sit well for some people.

Of course there are also many people who won't care about ps3 games when there's better ps4 titles to play. That's my view and if gaikai is cheap enough i would t have a problem buying the one or two games i may want to revisit in the coming years.

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DigitalSmoke4097d ago

you're wrong, the Last Of Us will go beyond Uncharted sales, easily.
And yes it will hurt the Xbox, it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says.

koehler834097d ago

I'm curious about that.

Uncharted clearly has a broader appeal than Last of Us. I actually expect it to go the other way and not out-perform it. That may be a biased perspective because I'm not particularly interested in it myself, despite it obviously being amazingly high-quality.

I'm very interested to see how it plays out. In any event, I'm definitely not rooting for it to fail.

Jdoki4097d ago

I think we'd need to look at Uncharted 1 sales vs Last of Us, and then adjust for the larger install base now to really compare the two.

I think the game will be a success, but not sure it will outsell Uncharted 2 or 3 as it is a new IP. Although it also depends on how hard Sony market it. Uncharted 3 got a lot of TV adverts in the UK.

koehler834097d ago

@Jdoki

I think a comparison with Drake's Fortune, adjusted for a massive increase in userbase is probably a fair metric.

Oh_Yeah4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Your right, The Last of Us will probably sell better than Uncharted. One reason, zombies. People will eat anything up if it's got zombies in it

Jek_Porkins4096d ago

So you are saying Microsoft is lying about sales? 2012 wasn't as good for Microsoft as 2011, but 2011 saw the Xbox 360's best selling year on the market. When you sell 1 million consoles on Black Friday alone, you are doing something right and you don't have much to complain about.

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nukeitall4097d ago

I think there is some minor damage to sales, due to some people telling "regular customers" that a new one will be out, but the vast majority won't know.

If you know and follow the announcement, you likely already own both a PS3 and Xbox 360 by now.

It certainly wouldn't affect game sales, as people still want to consume the content now, not in 10 months.

@DigitalSmoke:

"it has been hurting for 3 years already software and sale wise, i dont care what Microsoft says."

You sure are trying to fan the smoke, but in this case there is no fire. So how about you show us instead of making up claims?

USEYOURFIST4097d ago

Only on n4g can you get disagrees for stating a completely valid point, sometimes I think hardcore gamers who come on sites like this forget they are just one section of the gaming consumer. I know many console buyers, who if it wasn't for me telling them, would no nothing of next gen until it was in the shops

morkendo234097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

HAPPY VALENTINE DAY LADIES haaaaaa

something new besides complainting.

Ghoul4097d ago

Its that simple guys as allways with big companys

If a huge company gives out a statement saying they dont care means they DO care

If a huge company doesnt care they just dont care and them dont comment it at all

Whatdo you do when somene tells you to not care and just relax
Exactly you SHOULD start caring since hes trying to hold you down.

RiseUp444097d ago

There are more people playing ps3 now than ever before, The last of us will be a hit only if it is marketed properly and the PS4 announcement will not do anything to its launch at all.

subtenko4097d ago

That doesnt make any sense, a game as good as The last of us will make me still buy it even if the PS4 is announced. What you think when they say "Here is the PS4!" That I will say "Well I dont want the last of us game anymore"? That doesnt make sense

DeadlyFire4097d ago

Not if backwards compatible. :P

dcbronco4097d ago

Walker announcing the PS4 will most likely hurt PS3 sales. So what. This generation is over. But it will do nothing to hurt sales of games. There are 75 million PS3s out there. Several million of those owners will still buy a good game.

garos824097d ago

excactly this. ill be still buying ps3 games when ps4 is finally released (whenever that is) and thats because i never buy new hardware on day 1. not because i dont want too but because its best to weather the storm before any shortcomings of any console.
traditionally all consoles i have ever bought have usually been around their first drop in price except for ps2 which i got as a present

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

@Walker

"Maybe, but PS4 announcement will damage to PS3 sales and upcoming exclusives like the last of us ."

They just stop selling ps2 1 month ago.. sooo..

Donnieboi4096d ago

Lol I laughed when the UK xbox heads say that: especially since PS3 is already beating Xbox 360 in the UK. If they think PS4's added presence won't have an effect, then they are dellusional. No wonder M$ has lost touch with it's [former] user-base. With clueless men like that running the company, it's amazing Xbox even sells anymore. Wow, those 2 men must be high off of those Xbox Live fees. Money sure has a way of clouding one's vision.

AngelicIceDiamond4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Realistically a PS4 announcement won't hurt the sales of the Xbox because its an ANNOUNCEMENT. Its not getting released the next day.

The interview confirms MS is no. no. 1 in the market. Not sure if that's in the UK or WW.

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iNathan4097d ago

But Xbox has nothing to do with PlayStation

Who buys Xbox wont buy Playstation 4 thats for sure.

So it wont affect but once Next Gen Xbox is announced 360 is done.

hennessey864097d ago

Well I'm an Xbox gamer and am with out a shadow of a doubt buying the PS4 as I did the PS3. Some of us are gamers not fanboys you no

Yi-Long4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

... I'll buy whichever consoles look good to me.

This generation those have been the 360 and the PS4, and next-gen it will just depend on what the new consoles will be capable of, and if there will be any irritating limitations or whatever. ('always online' demands, game-activation to restrict 2nd hand games sales, etc etc)

If the next-gen consoles aren't backwards compatible forinstance, there's a very big chance I'll wait for the 'Steambox'.

I started this generation as an Xbox fan, never having owned a Playstation system before. And the 360 has been great as well.

However, the last few years Microsoft has been messing up IMHO (Personally not interested in motion-sensitive gaming, nor dashboard apps), and I feel Sony has improved after a slow start and has looked after my needs as a gamer more than MS, so at the moment I'm a bit more interested in the new PS4 than I am about the Xbox8.

Yi-Long4097d ago

... 'PS4' should be PS3, obviously.

HITANDRUN4097d ago

I agree, I think most of us cant afford 2 consoles, I only have PS3, but I think it was a mistake. I will wait and see what happened next gen, I almost gt the wiiu, im glad I did not.

BiggCMan4097d ago

^Exactly... Wtf is that about?? A lot of people who rode with Sony with PS1 and PS2 still shifted to the 360 only because it was the first HD console released, and they were disappointed (rightfully) with the PS3 when it had first launched.

Cocozero4097d ago

Why would they be scared they are about to past the Wii and become No 1 in the UK (as said in the MCV article where this comes from) and the US.

MS are ready to dominate next gen.

Prodigy-X4097d ago

PS3 77 million
360 76 million

Cocozero4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

PS3: 75.1ml
360: 76.9ml

Check OFFCIAL finacial reports and try again ;)

@DigitalSmoke
Ok fine then the 360 is No 1 in the US and UK the too biggest regions. You just made the PS3 look even worse lol

DigitalSmoke4097d ago

Wii isn't even in the battle dude, its a kids toy which you Breakbox 3Fixme fools only use as a weapon against the superior Playstation 3.

Why dont you talk about the lack of exclusives?
What is it 12 against 1?

Its "hillarios"!!!! Kinect fan!

-MD-4097d ago

PS2 - 155 million
PS3 - 77 million

Embarrassing...

GribbleGrunger4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

I'm sure once the PS3 has been on the market for as long as the PS2 was, that figure won't be quite so embarrassing then. It's interesting that you want to quote lifetimes sales for the PS2. Why didn't you find the sales for the PS2 at the point the PS3 released? The PS3 will never sell as many as the PS2 but it won't be at 77 million for another six years. My guess would be 115 million lifetime sales.

xursz4097d ago

I must say, was that the best you could come up with? Pitting PS2 numbers to PS3? And calling it embarrassing?

PS2 - 155 million
XBOX+Xbox360 - 110 million

What's embarrassing.

Karpetburnz4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

@-MD-

PS2 is 12 years old
PS3 is only 6 years old.

You wait until PS3 is 12 years old, then thats when you can compare the sales between the two, Sure PS3 wont sell as well as PS2, but It wont be the HUGE gap you Xbots make it out to be, PS3 is well on track to selling over at least 110-120 million.

And Sony will be the only company to have their console sell over 100 million 3 generations in a row, While Microsoft can barely do that with their 2 consoles sales put together.

MikeMyers4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

They won't be manufacturing PS3's for the next 6 years. You cannot use the PS2 as a level of expectations. The PS2 was hugely popular. Do you guys really think Nintendo is going to be making Wii's after 10 years of being on the market?

Both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 will continue to see year over year drops in sales. The market has become too competitive and is looking to ramp up in switching over to the next generation. The level of software support the PS2 got after the PS3 came out will not be the same once the PS4 comes out.

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PFFT4097d ago

Actually, its sony thats scared. Werent they the ones that said that they would let Ms make the first move??? Then they came out saying that they would have a special event with an announcement on the 21st of Feb. If that doesnt scream fear i dont know what does.

kenshiro1004096d ago

And you took PR talk as the gospel truth? What was Sony going to say - we're going in first? They're not going to let Microsoft know what they're planning...

Common sense, use it.

GribbleGrunger4097d ago

'The console that you bought when we launch versus the one today is totally different.'

Without question.

jeffgoldwin4097d ago

correct. the ps3 launch had bc, current version does not

nukeitall4097d ago

My PS3 also used to have OtherOS, before Sony legally stole that feature away from me.

Minato-Namikaze4097d ago

Doesn't even matter, I have so many ps3 games, I dont even have time to go back and play my ps2 games. BC is really only needed for the 1st year or two.

Lvl_up_gamer4097d ago

Don't forget:

Phat had more USB ports
touch sensitive on/off and eject buttons
auto loader
overall better material used for the design

Chris5584097d ago

Well ps4 but 2013exlusive games will

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan3d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka3d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow13d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer3d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning773d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast3d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning773d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv727d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19927d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier7d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1018d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac8d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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