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Lawmaker Wants Gamers to “Quiet Down” While Bashing Them

California State Senator Leland Yee makes a statement that gamers should not defend the gaming industry.

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Snookies124108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Oh boy, his head is way too far up his butt. Gamers will quiet down when you idiotic politicians stop being so ridiculous about our hobby.

zerocrossing4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Well that explains why everything he says sounds like crap to me.

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PopRocks3594108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

@Manchild

Big deal. He could be a genius in human peace and order; wouldn't necessarily make what he's saying right.

People have a right to complain when something harmless that they enjoy could potentially be threatened by irrational fear and ignorance. Gamers have every right to have their voices be heard by the very people who are supposed to be representing them.

zerocrossing4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

@Manchild

That was either some high level trolling, or the single most ridiculous statement I have ever read on N4G...

Do yourself a favour, if you're going to insult every gamer with your ludicrous statements do it elsewhere, we like games here at N4G and we want to protect our right to play them un inhibited by out of touch morons like Lee, I couldn't care less if he's some bigshot he sounds like a total ass to me, if you're going to dictate to others what entertainment they should and shouldn't indulge themselves in you better have bloody good idea what you're talking about.

I have no idea what your doing on here defending the enemy of our beloved hobby, but what you're saying certainly doesn't sound like something a gamer would say, so what the hell are you doing trolling on N4G?

JackBNimble4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Do you guys need an s/ by every comment to understand when someone is using sarcasim?

Come on people lighten up, Manchild is clearly being facetious... I hope.

zerocrossing4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

@JackBNimble

Actually no, he was just being a twat, this is his DM convo with me.

"Manchild
:P

zerocrossing

Are you actually a gamer or just here to troll? Cause I don't think any self respecting gamer could defend Lee's actions and spew the the ridiculous shit you just came out with.

Manchild 5

lol. Oh you uneducated imbecile!

zerocrossing

"uneducated imbecile!" does that ever work on anyone?

Look I see what you're doing, you're a sad, lonely, pathetic little troll right? See Im not respnding to you or paying any attention to you anymore, so I would'nt bother replying but waste your time if you must.

Manchild

Two words:
Fuck you :*

Re:
BTW i gtg can we continue this later? I'd love to wipe ur pathetic uneducated ass all over N4G's floor but alas, i gtg! Didn't your mother give you milk? And why didn't they provide you with sufficient education ?? Why were you born the wrong way???

Ofcourse you don't know!! Its not ur fault :) Cheer up, cunt"

His account is just over 4 hours old too, clearly trolling.

Whitefox7894108d ago

@Manchild I believe it was German philosopher Immanuel Kant who said, "Peace is an unnatural state for human society."

Though I digress the world was just as chaotic before the 66 years of existence of video games.

Blacktric4108d ago

I totally agree with manchild. We should just sit here and say nothing as he, as a successful politican, keeps snorting his coke and having threesomes with a bunch of prostitutes while talking crap about other people's hobbies and ridiculing them for it...

/sarcasm ends

Alos884108d ago

He's powerful- that doesn't mean he can't be ignorant.

DragonKnight4108d ago

Manchild is why they need to add an "Idiot" debubble option even though it would be immensely abused.

Bimkoblerutso4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

I wonder if he understands that he is undermining the fundamental principles of democracy by telling people not to speak up concerning political policy...

This guy needs to leave politics...now.

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Manchild4107d ago (Edited 4107d ago )

Couldn't you tell? Sorry i hurt a lot of butts :P

pixelsword4107d ago (Edited 4107d ago )

@ Zerocrossing:

It IS crap:

The only reason why politicians are going after games is because right now games have very little to lobby over, which means that a very lucrative industry is not giving politicians money for regulation; once laws are oppressing developers and they start being fined for making a game, then they will have to step-up on defending themselves, and then you'll see more lobbies and political groups for games, which means more money for politicians. Right now, there's basically one lobby, but politicians are trying to separate violent games from other games, which means violent game will have their own regulation, which means two or more groups will have to "render unto Caesar", if you follow me.

Why do you think everything is so regulated now, but everything is very bad for you?

Food is regulated, but you have things in food that can slowly kill you like hydrogenated oils. (look it up, it puts a coat of goo inside of your arteries that DOESN'T come out easily, if at all; which causes heart attacks and high blood pressure)

Medicine is regulated, but there are pills our there right now that can make a certain percentage of the population commit suicide. (others can cause things like gout, violent outbursts, insanity, depression, or even intensify the condition it's suppose to treat; again, look it up!)

Once violent games get regulation, rules will be enacted to make games very tame, and then developers will have to put money in the pockets of politicians to make games more violent, and that is what this is all about.

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MikeMyers4108d ago

If his bill was struck down by the Supreme Court you would think he would quiet down.

The more he tells people to shut up the less likelihood people will.

Droidbro4107d ago

This guy is what I call, and not seriously, a Mastermind. Someone who knows what is best for everyone. Someone put into power by God himself to look over the stupid masses and prevent us from destroying ourselves. He is no smarter than the typical citizen. If he were he would not be a politician who doesn't produce anything useful. He would be an innovator in the private sector creating products and services that enhance our lives. This is guy is a hack.

SilentNegotiator4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

These days, the only way to get respect in America is to play victim while acting above everyone else.

If gamers were to send politicians death threats for so much as discussing games, got expensive lawyers, and whined about how disrespected they are, we would be taken seriously. That's how all the "poor disrespected" groups do it these days.

Meanwhile, the media and politicians are going to continue to talk about gamers like they're ticking time bombs anyway.

rainslacker4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Nowadays, or perhaps always depending on context, the word "gamer" is used as derogatory. I'd wager that a majority of people that play games would not call themselves gamers. Over 80% of Americans play games in some fashion.

This guy just wants us to be quiet because he knows he has a weak argument. If his case was strong he should welcome the debate, and use it to prove why he is right.

To say we have no credibility in this argument is just laughable. I'd wager at least 1/2 of the people on here are more informed about this kind of stuff than he is, even if sparingly or generally so.

This same guy had issues with gun control, some of which I agreed with. I wonder how well it would have gone over if he told gun owners they should just quiet down because they had no credibility.

Edit: Since his facebook page was brought up further down the page, I thought I would post his response to this

Leland Yee
Gamers, I admittedly didnt use best words to SFchron. Meant video game industry has inherent conflict of interest in the gun violence debate.

End Quote

Again I say...should the gun manufacturers and owners also quiet down because they have a inherent conflict of interest? The answer is No. They have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to voice their opinion and provide data to back up their arguments. We may not agree with them, or him, but since he is bringing the debate forward, it is up to him to provide evidence to support his claims...if only to enlighten us.

StraightPath4107d ago

His more intelligent then the losers on n4g

caffman4107d ago

"His more intelligent then the losers on n4g"
Congratulations. you've proven yourself right.

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aviator1894108d ago

These lawmakers and politicians don't know squat..

Sidewinder-4108d ago

"he introduced the 2005 bill that made sales of M rated games to minors a crime, which was later struck down by the Supreme Court."

Well he was right there. It should be a crime. That's the issue. He needs to appeal that and have it reinstated.

TekoIie4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Yeh that seemed kind of moderate considering what hes saying now. Also I apparently have an interest in the gaming industry because its a billion-dollar industry.

... Am I owed money or something? I seriously thought I played games because I liked them but I have a hidden motive of course... /s -_-

TheUndertaker854108d ago

Until you realize that in the same bill it also made it illegal for me to buy M rated games for my kids in the future. Shouldn't I as a parent have the right to decide what my kids play since I know my kids better than the government?

TekoIie4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Oh really? Article didn't mention in that way but this guy is pathetic for trying to push that threw.

Did the bill make it illegal for you to buy the game for a minor or illegal for a minor to play the game... Or both?

TheUndertaker854108d ago

The first. They basically wanted sales of M rated games to be handled like cigarettes & alcohol. As is you have to be 17 to purchase a M rated title. Buying M rated games for minors isn't prosecuted.

The bill looked to change that, prosecuting sales people(which is one thing, don't mind them enforcing already existing policies) that sell to minors but also individuals purchasing the M rated titles for minors, IE parents in many instances. Thus why the bill was struck down.

If they want to fine retailers or employees for selling M rated games to people under 17 that's ok with me. That policy already exists and wanting to enforce that isn't bad. Wanting to fine me for purchasing the newest Call of Duty game or something for my kids when I believe it's ok for them to play those titles isn't.

HammadTheBeast4108d ago

So any minor can go watch a R-rated movie, yet playing a game is a crime? Ok then. How about we stop underage drinking, use of drugs and all that other sh*t first before putting in laws about games.

DeadSpaced4108d ago

Actually, several states have added further age restrictions on R-rated movies. My state being one of them. -_-

rpd1234108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

You can't appeal it, the Supreme Court is the highest judicial authority, there's no court above them to hear the appeal. And I don't the sale to minors should be a crime. Most stores have a policy in place that prevents them from buying it anyways.

rainslacker4108d ago

I don't think you can appeal once the supreme court makes their decision. Most you can do is change it in some way to make it constitutional.

I don't think it should be a crime. In 2008 the FTC found that 80% of the time minors were not able to purchase M rated games. They reaffirmed this in 2011 I believe. It actually went up a bit to 83% I think. This is because most retailers have that policy in place, and isn't something that needs to be regulated by the government.

AO1JMM4107d ago

sonicsidewinder your opinion is laughable at best.

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contradictory4108d ago

i want politicians to shut up while i bash them.

TheBatman_Fanatic4108d ago

Exactly and we continue playing what we want to play!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 6h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188114h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga16h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv722h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218315h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga14h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10119h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos18h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10117h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic15h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead8h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d 4h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno1d ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k423h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson23h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu1d ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson23h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.