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Will the PlayStation 4 and Xbox 720 be enough?

StickSkills said, "But as stated before, things have changed since the Xbox 360 first entered our hearts (and major retail outlets) in 2005. Today’s economic circumstances won’t easily allow U.S. buyers to drop several hundred dollars on a machine that simply makes the sweat rolling off Green Bay Packer Greg Jennings’ brow that much more realistic. The “need” to purchase a new, $500 phone every other year that contains thousands of free applications also makes a console with a similar price tag a difficult sell."

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Ezz20134122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

pc/ps4 for me will be enough when ever next gen come out

i will not buy the nextbox untill i see new ips from MS
when it come to exclusives
since 2008 MS dropped the ball big time
while sony took the ball and run with it

and they must make the online free
live have nothing over psn
live give you party chat
psn+ give you games
i will always go with psn because what it offer for free and when i pay for psn+
i get tons and tons of games

Enemy4122d ago

Taking the entirety of Sony's 1st party support into the consideration, I'll agree that PC/PS4 will be the way to go next gen. Microsoft will have to try harder than just Gears of Halo and Kinect to get my attention.

BlindGuardian4122d ago

no, I want more: Dreamcast 2 and Jaguar 2, and maybe a new Neo geo

my thirst for consoles can not be quenched with just two!!!

UnholyLight4121d ago

If you think Microsoft isnt going to have a bunch of new IPs for the Nextbox then you are fucking stupid LOL. Its quite blatantly obvious that Microsoft has spent the last couple years working on their new IPs for the Nextbox. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I for one WILL adopt a Nextbox as soon as it is out because Bungie's Destiny game will begin exclusively on the Nextbox likely. Microsoft has treated me very well the last 7 years even though some people may not agree. My best experience has been with the Xbox 360.

I will be purchasing a PS4 when it comes out too. I don't want to miss out on another Killzone game!!! Other than titles like Killzone and LBP and Socom I haven't found the PS exclusives to be that great. In my opinion I prefer my Forzas and Halos and Gears to the multiple meh exclusives PS3 had this gen.

Downvotes begin...Im not a fanboy, I just feel that Microsoft has treated me well, and with their rewards program I have been getting a couple hundred microsoft points back on each purchase plus 2% back due to my gamerscore. It's actually really nice.

GribbleGrunger4122d ago

Well baring in mind that my PS3 is still enough, I'll be more than happy with what the PS4 or 720 has to offer.

shivvy244122d ago

from games ms is offering Halo Gears Forza and ..... yea , Cant wait for PS4 !!

solid_warlord4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

well i really hope $ony wins next gen with continued offering of free PSN and on par with xbox live which at the moment is vastly superier. I own both systems and before u call me a fanboy, I would like to confess that i hate M$, i hate there new ugly dashboard and there new windows8 and windows phone is so ugly and hate the fact its been forced upon our throat.

Now, let me be honest... most of the PS3 exclusives are nasty. Xbox has the best overall such as Gears, Halo and Forza franchises. They are worth all PS3 exclusives combined, no offence. Thats my view. I feel they have allot of exclusives with bad games.

Gears, Halo and Forza are brilliant games. The only game i actually enjoyed on PS3 was uncharted and that in my view is in my top 3 best ranked single player game this gen. MGS4 was the reason i brought a PS3, that turned out to be disappointing.

Games like Killzone were average shooters, God of War is a hack and slash and i personly, hate hack and slash. Im more of a shooter fan, lets face it...most of console gamers are these days.

I played the heavy rain demo, the single biggest worst game i have ever played this gen. The games a joke. Its felt like a pre rendered game with no gameplay.

The game im most looking forward to on PS3 is Last of US. Im waiting for that game before i sell my PS3 to save money on next gen console. Sell them before they go down in value.

UnholyLight4121d ago

Hey Solid_Warlord, I FULLY expect that PSN and Xbox Live (especially Xbox Live) will be getting some serious revolutionary tweaking to the services. With the money pooling in from Subscriptions it seems a no brainer to me that the services, benefits, and subscriptions we see today all will be vastly different when the next gen hits.

Belking4122d ago

Xbox will be enough for me. The rumored hardware specs says it will be something special and i'm 99% sure it will launch first anyway.

DudeJets4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Yes it will be enough unless you wanna spend 600 quid 800 dollars on a new console

All the rumoured specs are ok. They don't need to be higher its not cost effective.

iNathan4122d ago

If Ps4 proves any good, im buying Ps4 after.

Riderz13374122d ago

Sony has already proved that they can continually bring out fresh new IP's due to their large variety of first party studios. Good examples of this are brand new IP's being introduced so late into the gen (The Last of Us and Beyond) plus the occasional sequel to some of the greatest games of this gen (God of War Ascension). Microsoft should be the one with something to prove since they constantly release Gears of War, Halo and Forza titles. Plus the abundance of Kinect titles which I doubt you even care about.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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