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And the award for the dumbest anti Wii U statement goes to…

Idiot columnist says gamers shouldn't pre-order the WiiU because its games cost $60...

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remanutd554256d ago

well hopefully that doesnt mean ps4 games will cost $69.99 or $79.99, thats gonna be too much.

XB1_PS44256d ago

I can't see the games going up to $79.99. That's way too much. Just think of that price mark as a coffin for consoles. I don't think half as many people would pay $80, as they would $60. I mean, I would only be able to buy like one damn game every month. That sucks.

LOGICWINS4256d ago

ONLY one game a month? You say that like it's a bad thing. Stats show that most console gamers only buy three games at launch per year.

COD, Madden, and some other shooter.

XB1_PS44256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

@LOGICWINS I'm used to buying a couple games a month sometimes, and I may be in the upper end of the purchase amounts. Lol, but I wouldn't spend $160 - $240 a month on games.

LOGICWINS4256d ago

Yeah, I don't see how the industry would justify a $70-$80 standard for PS4/720 games (Sony especially, considering how value conscious they are), unless gamers were guaranteed every future piece of DLC that would be released for the game.

Reverent4256d ago

sofresh, I'm disagreeing with you because you're richer than me, and I only get like 2-3 new games a year. So go away mean rich man.

Kidding (didn't really give you a disagree lol) but still... Crazy rich people with their crazy cars and their crazy giant house cats and what not...

Gaming1014256d ago

He's not rich, he just has different priorities than you ^^^

That being, play videogames day in and day out, and spend all your money on them.

neogeo4256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

I agree with one him a little bit. I hate paying $60 for games. I never got used to it not ever!

If you remember the only reason why games where $50 back in the 80"s and 90"s was because you got to play "arcade" games at home and did not need to use quarters. The price made sense because people like me dropped over $200 on arcades like street fighter.

Today the reason for the high price is TEH games cost billions to make!!, but some big budget games suck are end nearly as fast as a movie. Would you pay $60 to watch a movie? Now games like Fallout and zelda are well worth the money because the massive amount of greatness is worth it. I'm talking about junk like Spider man. GTFO or charge $15

XB1_PS44256d ago

@Gaming101 Haha you're right. All I do is make music for rappers.. Lol, and then with the royalty checks I spend it on games. I'm not RICH, but I get by. :)

specialguest4256d ago

If you remember gaming during the 90s, there were games that cost up to $80, and people bought them anyway. Here are a few expensive games from the 90s: http://www.1up.com/news/90s...

Look at SF2's price. With today's inflation added, paying $74.99 back in the 90s was like paying $121 today. The cost of developing a game in the 90s are no where near today's cost, yet these developers/publishers got away with it anyway.

ZeekQuattro4256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

There was a time I couldn't see a home console being over $400. Sony said otherwise. Games are no different. Heck if you buy DLC for certain games and add up the cost you are already paying over $79.99

zeeshan4256d ago

I agree with NeoGeo 100%! Well said!

Knushwood Butt4256d ago

I think the Vita has more than one game released per month, but it has no games...

Double_O_Revan4255d ago

I know I would be waiting till prices dropped to buy a game as oppose to right away.

sourav934255d ago

I buy 1 game a month...sometimes even once every 2 months...

solidt124255d ago

At that price I would only buy 4 full price games a year and wait for deals on all the others.

gaffyh4255d ago

@WiiUDaily - It's not cool calling out a rival games journalist, makes you look unprofessional. He's entitled to his opinion, so it's not good to defame him, just because you don't agree. You could have gone about this is a better way, rather than calling him out directly and calling him an idiot.

extermin8or4255d ago

you say that by the iphone 5 32gb and 64gb have a starting price of £66 a month here in the uk so I've no idea what they have in the usa but it must be similar- and £46 for the 16gb which I reckon would easilly be filled up so a video game for 80 quid suddenly doesn't sound so unreasonable; as long as the increase in quality/content is worth the extra money...

Knight_Crawler4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

Yeah but what if developers took the time to pack each game with insane amonut of content for free.

Something like Halo but with triple the content.

That would justify the $79.99.

Bobertt4255d ago

Nes games cost $45-$70 depending on the title and people bought it back then. The games now are way better so im sure people will buy it. They will just be pickier on which games they buy or buy used games more.

Dac2u4255d ago

I remember buying Double Dragon 2 with my birthday money and it ended up costing me $74 after tax. Not that I want to spend that type of money again, but that's what some games cost back then and people paid it.

steve30x4255d ago

People couldnt believe it when the price of PS3 and Xbox 360 games were €60+ when the concoles came came out first after the PS2 and Xbox games were around €40 each. I know I will get disagrees but I can see the next Xbox and PS4 games being more expensive because they will be more expensive to develop.

MmaFan-Qc4255d ago

i already pay my 360/ps3/pc games 70$(well, its 59$ but with the taxes it end up being 69$)

anyway i wont get the wiiu until 6-7months after the release, the wii had barely a couples games even after 6 years. ....so i will let nintendo pull their head out of their own ass for a while and see if it worth it after a couples months.

darthv724255d ago

nobody ever said this was a cheap hobby.

omi25p4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

Well last year i bought

Saints Row the Third: £40 (XBOX 360)
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: £40 (XBOX 360)
Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception: £40 (PS3)
Battlefield 3: £40 (XBOX 360)
Batman: Arkham City Collectors: £65(XBOX 360)
Rage: £40 (XBOX 360)
Gears of War 3 Epic Edition: £100 (XBOX 360)
L.A Noire: £40 (XBOX 360)
Portal 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Mortal Kombat: £40 (XBOX 360)
Dead Space 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Assassins Creed: Revelations: £40 (XBOX 360)
BulletStorm : £50 (XBOX 360)
Dragon Age 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
F3AR: £40 (XBOX 360)
Crysis 2: £40 (XBOX 360)
Killzone 3: £40 (PS3)
Infamous 2 : £40 (PS3)
Dues Ex: Human Revolution: £40 (XBOX 360)
Dead Island: £40 (XBOX 360)
Fifa 12: £40 (XBOX 360)
Forza 4: £40 (XBOX 360)
Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary: £35 (XBOX 360)

So i spent £1010 On Retail releases ALONE + Around £200 worth of downloadable Content AND a 250gb Xbox 360s which i think was £245

So overall i spent £1455 just on entertainment.

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THESONYPS34256d ago

Games in Australia range from $69-$110. Meaning some months you spend hundreds of dollars worth. Some people love to use the OzGameShop though as it is cheaper.

geddesmond4255d ago

Nintendo fans are way too sensitive

steve30x4255d ago

Not just nintendo fans. N4G is full of oversensitive fans. To prove my point watch how many disagrees I will get for this comment

steve30x4254d ago

LMAO That backfired on me

doogiebear4255d ago

Why is this worthy news. Doesn't the "N" in N4G mean news? Millions of idiots give stupid comments. Why is this one so special?

geddesmond4255d ago

Lol I just read his article and I agree with him on a lot of things. 95% of the hardcore titles for Wii U are ported versions of games already on PS360 or coming before Wii U launches. Yeah they'll run a bit better and have most of the DLC on disk but we've all seen screens of the Wii U versions and they DON'T look much better.

Then his price point is bang on. Why should these ported games cost the same on Wii U as they did when they launched on PS360. Star Ocean 4 and Bioshock both cost 10 euros cheaper when they launched on PS3 and they looked a bit better than the 360 version too. So why should ported Wii U games be any different?

StraightPath4255d ago

I get all games rented from lovefilm for all my platforms. Dnt need to worry bout cost since only £10 per month I save alot and play all games all year.

ALLWRONG4255d ago

Why would 720/PS4 games cost more than Wii U games?

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PopRocks3594256d ago

Wait... so this guy believes an HD console should not be purchased because the games are $10 more expensive?

Where the hell has he been for the past generation exactly?

HammadTheBeast4255d ago

I bet this guy pays $150 for the CoD Hardened editions for its state of the art graphics lol.

shackdaddy4256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

Oh-ho-ho Michael Pachter has some competition :P

LOGICWINS4256d ago

Pachter actually makes money for what he spews. All this kid gained was humiliation.

HammadTheBeast4255d ago

He supposedly works for CNET and the LA Times, and is hired specifically for making sensationalist Nintendo headlines.

majiebeast4256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

I think prices of games should be determined by the length,budget and quality of the game. Games like vanquish with 4 hours campaigns should never cost more then 40$ while games like uncharted 2 and Gears 2 deserve to have that 60$ price tag.

dark-hollow4256d ago

That's how it should be but the problem is who determine the value of the game?

some developers put a lot of hardwork on some short titles and others simply are full of themselves and way overvalue their game.

turgore4256d ago

but if gears 2 would be 60 bucks then what would skyrim cost ? 200?

TekoIie4256d ago (Edited 4256d ago )

Gears has MP. It could rival an RPG on time value as can many games with MP could.

Also let's not forget the issues skyrims having : /

360ICE4256d ago

Wouldn't that make good games expensive and bad games cheap? That sucks.
And who would judge quality?
And should really budget be a factor? Doesn't that reward or mitigate wasting money?
And what about online play? What does that count for in terms of length?

These are but a few of the many brain twisters you have to solve, before we scrap supply and demand.

icewater854255d ago

Vanquish is not a 4 hour game and it is worth $60.

Kaneda4255d ago

media storage too.. Uncharted is using blu-ray and Gears 2 on DVD. DVD is dirt cheap...

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DivineAssault 4256d ago

I can see AC3 & all the other newer games but what i dont see is how nintendo land or mario bros u justifies a $60 price tag.. LBP on vita has deeper mechanics & btr graphics for $40..

AO1JMM4256d ago

Vita is a handheld and handheld games are on average less than console games.

DivineAssault 4256d ago

maybe but vita games can be up to $50 & handheld games are becoming just as expensive to develop for as consoles.. My point is the effort & creativity is what u pay for.. They couldve charged $40 for mario bros & nintendo land shouldve been free.. I bet it took no longer than a yr n some change to make both

ronin4life4256d ago

Several NL games have full "lengthy" campaigns in single and multiplayer. It is a full featured game, though wether it is "$60" worth will have to wait for reviews with deeper detail.

And nsmbU wouldn't be considered unworthy of full price by anyone... if nsmb2 and sm3dl hadn't just come out. That's just a matter if perception and situation...

YoungPlex4256d ago

LMAO! "handheld games are becoming just as expensive to develop for as consoles"

1.8 million to make RE Revelations, approximately $60 million for RE:6. If you think that this is anywhere near console prices then go back to school, and stop trying to justify why Sony charges you so much for a handheld title!

extermin8or4255d ago

um developing for the ancient 3ds woul be cheaper as its parts arent all that new and all in all just like the original ds plus the 3d aspect..,.

SandWitch4255d ago

I have no idea why Nintendo charges 60 bucks for Mario Bros Wii U... It costs 10 million at most. While PS3/X360 games on average costs 20-30 millions to make.

stragomccloud4255d ago

One of the 3D Marios, I think $60 is justified. One of the 2D Marios... maybe. Nintendo land? No. Just no. I know it'll provide a lot of gameplay hours, but a $60 game it is not.

YoungPlex4255d ago

Seeing as Uncharted: Golden Abyss uses Havok Physics and Havok Animation, helping Sony's Bend Studio reach higher levels of fidelity and interactivity for the PS Vita system and RE:Revelations uses an advanced version of the MT Framework, an exclusive seventh generation game engine built to be used with "all of the Capcom next-generation games" on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 (and later on the Wii and the Nintendo 3DS); it's easy to think that both of these titles would cost an arm and a leg to develop.

Sadly this isn't the case, as both of these engines were already made and easily optimized to take advantage of both pieces of hardware. Thus making it possible for both titles to be developed in little than under a year, delivering both console level experiences. Development cost for both are a mere fraction of what it would cost in making a console title.

Both titles could've cost $20 at most, but opted to use 4gig cards, which bumped up cost and the msrp. That is why they're expensive, not really due to development cost alone!

"um developing for the ancient 3ds woul be cheaper as its parts arent all that new and all in all just like the original ds plus the 3d aspect..,."

Keep dreaming! Revelations was a magnificent game and did a great job showcasing what is possible on the 3DS! But if you feel that Uncharted cost anymore to develop for, and that it was worth the $49.99 price tag anymore than Revelations $39.99, simply due to development cost, then your highly misinformed...

I love how Sony fans bash Nintendo, knowing damn well that more than half of them own some piece of current Nintendo hardware.

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RiseNShine8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno8d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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