Sony and Microsoft show off equal gameplay - so why was one better?

Sony and Microsoft both showed equal gameplay, so why was one better than the other?

[Double_Oh_Snap]

Three reasons Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog and Quantic Dream.

Sony's first party is incredible, and we are lucky consumers and loyal fans to have a company support gaming the way they do.

[MariaHelFutura]

Yep. It is what it is.

[jeseth]

Sony ocntinues to roll out new, high quality IPs while Microsoft continues the Gears, Halo, Fable, Forza rotation.

At least Sony adds new IPs every year sprinkled in between the releases of their big franchises.

[Trebius]

In my eyes, 360 will always be in 2nd place behind Sony.

"Sales" dont matter to me, theyve been GIVING away 360s for years now, ps3 has proven itself time and time again with its exclusive titles...and not even the mightiest of 360 fanboys can debunk that FACT.

[BlindGuardian]

because Splinter Cell is not exclusive, not even console exclusive

[blitz0623]

@Trebius

Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why sales is always used as an argument to why one console is better than the other. The only thing that is proven by sales is that less people enjoy the quality games Sony produces for PS3 owners.

[Drake117]

Literally the only thing i cared about at MS conference was Halo 4 and thats pretty much the only reason i own my xbox. Sony won because They had alot more and overall better exclusives. I cared about 1 MS exclusive compared to 4 of Sony's, its as simple as that.

[nukeitall]

blitz0623:

"Couldn't agree more. I have no idea why sales is always used as an argument to why one console is better than the other."

Community! Sales means, another owner is now on the Xbox platform. People with a microphone I can play with.

What I often see is, PS3 owners tend to be single player gamer so they don't understand the value of an online community. They always complain about the Xbox 360 lineup, yet Xbox owners don't give a damn and just enjoy the games they like. If they cared, they would have swapped to a PS3. After all, the darn thing is cheaper "supposedly superior in every way".

I also want to point out that every year for years, we heard about the same "exclusives" on the Playstation platform. At the end of the cycle, well we are still waiting for many of them including Agent and Last Guardian. Can I say vaporware? If you actually count up the number of exclusives released on Xbox 360 and PS3, I'm pretty darn sure they are pretty close.

For me Sony has it's place, Nintendo has it's, and MS has it's place! Isn't that great? Console options for everyone.

Why would we want 3 similar consoles? Pointless if you ask me.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Sales may be important to define if a game has a community for its online. But it doesn't matter at all for single player games, and even for Multiplayer, having one million of people playing and have few thousands don't make a difference, the biggest online session is 256 players and many times, having more people just mean more annoying asshats.

Also, it's not like the PS3 had only sold few units and 360 had sold hundreds of millions, they are both pretty close and largely available everywhere, they both sold well this gen and both companies are dealing well with it and there's plenty of games for us (although they have different strategies, relying more on 1st party or 3rd party). There's absolutely nothing for gamers' be worried with.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

@ nukeitall

I agree. With that said, I prefer to game more on PS3 than I do on 360.

[insomnium2]

@nukeitall

"People with a microphone I can play with. "

I hate people with mics. I never use one. Thank goodness Sony didn't put a mic in every bundle.

I'm a grown up. I have a wife, job and kids. Friends are not that important to me and if someone says that all they want to do is play online with friends with mics it tells me that he is a 14-22yo kid. Most of the time I'm right too.

First of all I think internet should have an age limit of 22 minimum. Atleast on forums where you are free to write anything you like. Same with online games. Noone below 18 should be allowed...ever. Brats ruin everything. Get out of my internet brats. Come back when you grow a hairy pair of balls and a backbone.

[JANF]

@ insomnium2

"I hate people with mics. I never use one. Thank goodness Sony didn't put a mic in every bundle.

I'm a grown up. I have a wife, job and kids. Friends are not that important to me and if someone says that all they want to do is play online with friends with mics it tells me that he is a 14-22yo kid. Most of the time I'm right too."

Really... I'm 30 years old, I have a wife and kids and I have a bunch of friends who i game with and guess what we use mics. Seems to me that you are a little angry or something. It's good to have friends and people who you can have fun with, you should try it sometime. if not your life could get very repetitive, boring and lonely.

game on ;)

[nukeitall]

@insomnium2:

Really?

You seem really immature based on your comment. In fact, most grown up people don't refer to themselves as "grown up" or think of themselves as such. They just are!

It's part of being mature.

By any chance have you heard of a mute or disable voice chat feature? The one that silence people you don't want to listen to? I would rather people have a microphone use it, and given the opportunity to conveniently mute them one by one, or all at once than not have the opportunity for some awesome team work.

You sound exactly like the kind of guy that plays mostly single player games and have no clue the importance of an online community is.

Also, your idea of the internet is, I don't know how to put it. Most succint way: STUPID!

If there is one thing "as a grown up" knows, is that idiots are abound and it isn't limited to age. I met plenty of people with family that has multiple children that are complete idiots and at the same time, met young teenagers that are very mature.

@bishop-br:

I somewhat disagree with community size. Some of the top 10 online games even on the bottom of the list don't have enough variety of people to play against and that is on Xbox Live, imagine other platforms. The community shrinks really fast, and it is a self-feeding cycle i.e. if there are few gamers, fewer stick around while the busier games retain more and get more over time. The drop off is slower until the next release.

I want a wide variety of people that play around the world (to find people close to gamers) to play. It makes for interesting matchmaking and balances the game.

This is also why I like sequels, because a lot of times the community size explodes for about 3-4 months. Pure online gaming bliss! :D

The excuse you can always play the previous game, it's identical isn't true for many games. Because playing online is all about people, otherwise I could just play against stupid bots.

@JANF:

Game on! :D

[moparful99]

@nukeitall

I love how you generalize an audience. I have a friends list FULL of people who play online alot and have mics... Your umbrella statment sounds like a stereotype and a way to play up the xbox community..

[Trebius]

As far as MICs go...the way i see it is, the 360 is the system adults buy for their kids, because its very inexpensive piece of hardware and it doesnt matter if they break it after a few months because theyll just spend another 99$ to get them one again.

The problem with this is that since every 360 is bundled with a mic, every single person whether it's an adolescent, preteen, child, 4 year old 6 year old whatever it is, will have access to that mic. Which makes the whole online community for the 360 a BORE of constant children thinking theyre big because they can shout insults and racist obscene garbage through a mic and know they wont get reprimanded by parents or any authority.

PS3 owners have to go buy their mic, either 1st party or 3rd party...which makes it so people that WANT the mic for teamplay purposes will get it, because more often than not, someone that is interested in buying a mic wont buy one just to grief and be a pain in the butt...theyll only take advantage of somethign thats already included in the product they purchased.

Im very happy with the ps3 online community, i rarely run into annoying children while playing, whereas on the 360 you cant play an online game without hearing constant bickering on the mics from kids who shouldnt even be allowed to play on school nights.

Bulding mics is not a PLUS. If they had bundled mics with the PS3 during the years where it was 399 or still expensive, then that wouldve been ok, because no responsible adult is going to buy their child an expensive piece of equipment like that and expect it to last.

And as far as The Last Guardian and Agent being vaporware, no. They exist, and they will release. Just because a lot of unannounced 1st party exclusives were released before these two and they WERE announced, doesnt mean they wont exist...its just something us ps3 owners know is coming in the future, and theres nothing wrong with being excited about titles like Agent, Last Guardian, Final Fantasy Versus XIII...it just shows that even amongst the already released exclusive titles, there are still more quality titles on the way.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

@ Trebius

I'm happy with the PS3 community as well. If it is the case that most of them don't have mics then I'm glad I don't have to put up with it. Using a lot of the N4G PS3 community as a gauge for how they would be on PSN, I would not want to talk with them during a game. It is already a pain dealing with them in the comments section. The whole idea that the PS3 community is more mature and sophisticated is nothing more than elitist garbage.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

I like people like Insonium. Calling people kids, talking about ALL your responsibilities yet, posting on a gaming forum.

Hypocrisy is such a beautiful thing.

[TekoIie]

@ insomnium2

[geddesmond]

Yep MS only showed off existing franchises while we got 3 new IPs from Sony not including casual crap like Wonderbook and I bet Gamescon we will see the new Guerila games IP cause they are a EU based dev team.

Halo, Gears, Fable and Forza yet again SMH

[blackbeld]

@Nukeitall

What are you smoking?

PS3 owners already having voice and video chat only not cross chat.

And we using Skype for private chats with our mates during COD.

That annoying kits on COD game lobby... every time we have to mute them again. Thats why we using Skype!

And what about sales? PS3 is still 2x more expensive than a 360. When they drop the price to €150 then its game over for the 360!

Microsoft on 3e place as always.

[ChrisW]

Game sales are what makes a console in the lead, not hardware sales. And it doesn't matter if they're from 1st or 3rd party publishers.

[sikbeta]

Sony could have shown more stuff instead of those Sizzle Reels:

PS3:

Portal 2 Move DLC
LBPK
Sly Thieves...
Ninokuni
Sport Champions 2 (scratch if you don't like motion waggle-waggle XD )

Vita:

Sould Sacrifice
Sound Shapes
Gravity Rush
P4G
More than 15 secs of Assassins Creed III: Liberation :P
More than just the logo of COD:BOD :/
etc...

[ShinMaster]

This:
http://youtu.be/c69xoGMitS8

this:
http://youtu.be/1fEX9-LR9tg

And this:
http://youtu.be/YVWbbOW-wqs

That would be the short answer, to a lot of questions.

[Shepherd 214]

Insomnium2

you may have a job, kids and a wife, but your tone says you don't have much of a life. No wonder you don't have any friends.

why are you on a gaming forum talking about playing games, grown up? Is it because you don't have xbox party chat or friends to talk about this stuff with? I'm telling ya, if you had party chat like us 17-22 year old kids, you could easily use it to get all that piss and pouting and vinegar out of your system. But I hear old guys don't like to try new things.

[MrBeatdown]

@DK

Wow.

Funny you say "PS3 owners will still be watching videos and hoping that their exclusives will make another appearance at E3 next year, and the year after" but from what I recall, every game shown at Sony's conference is scheduled to be released within a year.

Beyond: January - March 2013
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

PS All Stars - "holiday season" 2012
http://blog.us.playstation....

God of War - March 12, 2013
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Last of Us - "late 2012 or early 2013"
(This requires a bit of thinking, but I think you're capable of figuring it out)
http://www.computerandvideo...

Of course, you call them all vaporware despite all of them having dates as specific as Gears of War: Judgment's, which, unsurprising, you don't deem "vaporware". Nor do you assume it will make multiple E3 appearances, even though Gears 3 did exactly that after being announced for a spring release.

What's truly laughable is that you not only act as if Sony's E3 games will show up at E3 2013, but at E3 2014 as well.

You then proceed to tell everyone how Sony shows off the same games year after year, and MS doesn't. Let's put that to the test, shall we? For starters, how many of the games shown at Sony's press conference appeared at E3 last year? None of them. But of course you treat it as if it's fact that most of the games Sony showed this year will make repeat showings next year, AND the year after that.

Microsoft's turn. Fable: The Journey? Shown at two E3s. Halo 4? Shown at two E3s.

This year, Microsoft double-dipped twice. Sony didn't at all. It's funny that you prefer to complain about what Sony has done in the past, but you don't complain about it this year when Microsoft did it.

You bring up Last Guardian to prove your point. You ignore Ryse too. It was featured at two E3s, and over two years later, we still don't even have a screenshot of it. You want to make it out to be a trend that only Sony is guilty of. You have been harping on that point since E3, but I haven't seen you back it up with stats. Prove it. Show us a list of how many games Sony has featured multiple times at E3, versus how many Microsoft has. I helped you out with Last Guardian, Ryse, Gears 3, Halo 4, and Fable. That's one for Sony and four for Microsoft. I'll let you go from there. Go get 'em slugger!

And last but certainly not least in your wonderful heap of nonsense, in reference to God of War being shown, you say "That's pretty funny considering all of the PS3 fans complaining about MS rehashing the same franchises".

What's really funny is that you are trying to find hypocrisy when none exists. The three MS games you listed? ALL existing IPs on their FOURTH entry in the series THIS GENERATION. God of War is on it's second. Every other game from Sony you mentioned is a new IP.

Keep the nonsense coming DK. It's amazing that despite the clear bias in your post, in the course of a few days, you managed to go from three bubbles to five. And yet you're one of the people who frequently complains about Sony bias on this site.

[ReadyBodyReggie]

>Sony and microsoft
>games
Hahaha. The only people to showcase games this year was Nintendo. You know it to be true. Unless you believe "smart glass" and "Harry Potter books" are "Games".
SONY and Microsoft status: Body is not willing to be ready.

[schlanz]

@nukeitall

You got me there; I am generally only interested in single player games. As far as playing online, I'd rather play with friends than complete strangers. All of my friends have a PS3 so on the rare occasion I want to play online with someone, I do have that luxury, and thankfully they all have headsets.

As far as the games, sure both systems may have a relatively close quantity of exclusives, but to argue the quality is on par across the board is borderline ridiculous. PS3 has roughly 40 retail exclusives with aggregate scores over 80%, 360 has about half that. Not an exaggeration. And I don't think I need to mention that about half of those 360 games are spread between 3 franchises.

[tordavis]

Did everyone forget that Microsoft announced 3 new exclusive IP's at E3?

[EVILDEAD360]

MSWorld has got em' fired up over the flame title, but I actually thought it was cool to read the E3 breakdown.

In regards to who was better it is clearly subjective and each individual watching E3 has there own take and opinion of the games shown.

As far as the big new Ips overall, it is clear we won't be playing them for well over a year from now.

Watch dogs, Last of Us, and Beyond, will more than likely have another major go at next year's E3 presentation as well.

Sony showed two big new IPs from Naughty and Quantum that we will see more of next E3.

Micrsoft for year 7 showed two of the newest games from it's biggest franchises from 343 and Turn 10/Playground games.

Micrsoft set themselves up for a big holiday with Halo 4 and Sony set themselves up for a strong first quarter with God of War.

I do feel like Sony is strangely leaving the Fall/Holiday season without a strong AAA exclusive on the level of Uncharted or God of War that they normally have in past years.

But, who knows maybe there will be a miracle and Last Guardian's 'technical issues will be resolve and it will show up in Tokyo, and make to retail this holiday.

Evil

[Blastoise]

Quite simply ms didnt show enough. Its all very well and good to show CoD and Tomb raider, but those are multiplats...Sony showed a lot of exclusive content (nintendo too). Make some new exclusive IP's microsoft and i`ll start caring about your conferences.

[Cueil]

it's the end of the generation... it hardly matters right now how many new IPs MS is putting out on a console on it's last legs... it's weird that Sony wouldn't hold Last of Us for the PS4 to be their flag ship franchise for that generation

[schlanz]

It's weird that Sony wants their console to go out with a bang and not a fizzle? It's weird that Sony doesn't want to disappoint their fanbase?

[Persistantthug]

The other is regurgitating the samesh17 over and over and over and over......just phoning it in basically.

[noctrnl13]

@DK286K

There have/will be 4 God of Wars. Two on the Ps2 and two on the Ps3. There have however been/will be 8 Halo's (6 of which have been on the 360) Halo 3, Halo: Wars, Halo: ODST, Halo:Reach, Halo: Anniversarry, and Halo: 4. This makes your argument invalid.

M$ isn't milking anything at all. /s

And to your comment about vaporware if you still discount those series which will be coming out (it takes some time and effort to create all new gaming experiences rather than releasing something based on a game that already exists) the PS3 still has a plethora of exclusives that M$ does not. That is their business model to say anything different is asinine, and I'm sure every Ps3 owner out there will gladly wait for exclusives like Agent, The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy Versus because those dev's have never let us down and we'll let them take their time to deliver us a fresh new gaming experience.

We don't need the same game every 2 years to stimulate ourselves.

[LeoDDestroyer]

@DK286K
So I guess Beyond and The Last of Us aren't new IP's.

[Imalwaysright]

Im upset that we've been waiting for TLG for years but the PS3 still pumps out more games than the 360 and more importantly new Ips. I want new experiences and Sony will provide them for me with Beyond and The Last of Us and Ubisoft with Watch Dogs while MS will provide me 0, nada nothing.

Im in no hurry to play sequels of franchises that had multiple releases this generation. The only sequels i really want to play are Hitman and TR. The rest ill buy when they hit the bargain bin.

[kikizoo]

@DK ultimate fanboy in denial :

it's not new, each year sony has 10X more exclusives since 2008, and it's even more since 2 years, so don't act like 2013 will be different..

[Cueil]

@noctrnl13 you smoking crack? 7 God of War games 8 with the new one... in 2 generations and all of them play the same (there was actually a really fun mobile game for cell phones that I loved but we wont count that). You can say what you want about the Halo Franchise, but they've ventured out into different things and they set a standard in FPS and MP. There have been 4 Uncharted games in 5 years... what you have 9 Gran Tourismos? Look for MS this is the end of a generation and any new IPs they may have planed are likely for the next system not to mention they generally don't announce anything that isn't coming out within a year aside from the big announcements. These companies seem to be chasing different goals now for some reason. I use to think both of them were trying to take over the living room, but Sony seems content where they are.

[noctrnl13]

@Cueil

I'm not even going to be rude and say you are taking drugs. What I will say is this I didn't know we were counting handhelds but if we are my rebuttal would be Sony spreading around flagship IPs across different consoles. 4 GoW on PSP and 2 on Ps2, Ps3. Good spread much better than 6 Halos on one system.

Secondly yes there may have been 4 uncharted games in the past 5 years but at least that was a new IP this gen. Let's talk about new IPs. MS only new flagship IP was GOW. Sony had LBP, Warhawk, Valkryia Chronicles, Uncharted, Infamous, Heavy Rain, Motostorm, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, The Last Guardian, The Last of Us, White Knight Chronicles, and the push for MMOs on a console. Not to mention the resurgence of past franchises, Sly and Jak and Daxter. MS tried in the beginning with Kameo which was horrible. One of the few good exclusives was Lost Odyssey and they let that die quickly.

I own all three consoles and I use my xbox for gears of war and halo. Nothing else. MS doesn't make the push for new IPs like Sony does, and please don't give me that "end of the gen" crap Sony is hauling out new IPs and there's no reason MS shouldn't don't try to save their ass with that.

Also you must not do research, Gran Turismo has had 6 games and the gap between GT4 and GT5 was 5 entire years. The gap between Halo: Reach and Halo: Anniversary 1 year.

As I stated Halo did a lot for FPSes but are you saying God of War didn't for action games, or Uncharted didn't for adventure games? Halo was a revolution last gen when it came out, now its just an FPS. The only FPS i have my eye on is Dust 514 because the play that goes on with Eve online players is interesting and REVOLUTIONARY. Also it's new, something MS doesn't understand.

While I cannot say Halo isn't good it is, so is Gears of War and Forza. It's not okay though for MS to have a handful of exclusives when the gaming community has given them more than enough money to invest in new franchises. The fact that you're defending this is sad. Yes Sony rolls out sequels but at least they dot those releases with fresh new IPs 6 years into the consoles life. MS stopped making AAA exclusives what around 08?

Back to my original point There will be 6 God of Wars counting Ascension spread evenly across 6 consoles. There have been/will be 6 Halos on the Xbox 360 alone. Again making your point invalid.

P.S not a fanboy just hate when people argue without facts. MS is a shit company. They have more than enough money to invest in new games yet they don't because they know if they release a Halo every so often nobody will bitch enough to cause a dent in their profits.

-edit- not to mention Sony is supporting two systems and still puts out more exclusives than MS, they have lost money still put our more exclusives, Sony is a gamers company. MS is a consumers company.

[schlanz]

well said, +bubs ^

[gobluesamg]

Damn Cueil just got lit up!

[insomnium2]

That's quite an asswhooping there noc. Keep up the good work :)

[joab777]

Yeah, I guess these guys had to find a way to show Microsoft's presser in a new light. This is how they did it. If Sony came out and showed 5 new awesome games and then walked off stage, I could care less how long it lasted. We don't wait all year for E3 to see whose production value is greatest or how many celebrities show. Microsoft showed its scary direction with halo, gears, splinter cell & 3 multi platform games in BO2, Tomb Raider and RE6. It could a been a presser from 2008. Sony will have those 3 too & as mw3 has proven, exclusive dlc doesn't mean as much anymore as ps3 is catching up in CoD players. But, Sony did have the Last of Us, Beyond. They had their GoW too but they also have vita info they didn't show and there's like 5 other exclusives we know about that didn't show.

I have to make a big decision for next Gen. PC, ps4 or 720. I play Xbox a lot too but mainly because its rpgs don't suffer from memory issues. But, as of now, I am getting a little worried about Xbox direction. Now, if they are simply riding out this Gen and pumping a lot of time and money into next Gen, that will b fine. But I am apprehensive right now.

[telekineticmantis]

is Ubisoft, last year it was EA. It's a part of the steps a fan goes through post mortem his console, denial, I did it with Sega so I fully understand.

You'll be hearing this often, Everyone sucked at E3, "Ubisoft alone" had a good showing. WONDERBOOK WONDERBOOK WONDERBOOK WONDERBOOK!!!!! What happened to 3D? Hey smartglass huh?!!! No No No Nintendo had the worst conference.

It all creates a world for them where Microsoft hasn't betrayed them.

[Ron_Danger]

Splinter cell is a multi plat also.

[KMCROC54]

How about the 3 xbox exclusives mentioned at E3 & the tons of XBLA games at the booths that were not mentioned on stage.

[dead_eye]

@joab777

"Now, if they are simply riding out this Gen and pumping a lot of time and money into next Gen, that will b fine. But I am apprehensive right now."

How can riding out a generation be fine. Even if they are putting money into next gen there is no way that is fine.

[joab777]

It isn't fine that they are riding it out. Its fine in the sense that it eases my fear that they are abondoning great first party IPs like halo and gears used to be. But maybe they were always only about that. Yes, they will need 1 or 2 great IPs like this to go forward and it isn't easy to do. My guess though is that their business model has changed. The focus is no longer on strong Microsoft titles but 3rd party dominance and making the Xbox an entertainment machine that everyone cannot do without. From their perspective Halo, gears and CoD will sell the 720. Also, they bank on the fact that kinnect owners will but it too as well as everyone who owns one now. Also win 8 is coming and I see a huge push to sell the 720, aptly named something else and sold as a win 8 extension for ur living room. Win 8 will b kinnect integrated and when u load up the new Xbox, it will load a UI just like win 8hat links to ur computer. All movies, pics, vids etc will stream seemlessly to it. And on and on. Huge advertising to become the quintessential entertainment box for ur living room. U don't have to rely so heavily on game sales if u r selling everything under the sun. They know
hat consoles will become obsolete as ultimately PC's will link to every TV in the house.

And if splinter cell is multi, its the first time I guess. Also, yes Xbox has been strong in the xbla dept. But Sony has many great pan exclusives coming also. Yes, forza is nice but there is no denying that Sony has the edge concerning exclusives and in house development.

[WeskerChildReborned]

Don't forget Sucker punch, hopefully their will be an InFAMOUS 3 next gen.

[Campy da Camper]

Strongly agree! I platd 1,2 and got all trophies in FoB. I LOVE the inFamous IP.

[khan_saab]

i agree with you 100% but i must remind you to avoid troll attacks that Quantic Dream are not owned by sony, they just work with them like insomniac use to

[Cueil]

Quantic Dreams used to be a open company that didn't play favorites... it was weird to see them not make PC versions of their game...

[JANF]

@nukeitall

I could not agree more...

I have a PS3 and a Xbox 360 and i get from them very different experiences.

For some reason i use more my xbox. Maybe because i'm more of a multiplayer.gamer.

[moparful99]

I spend over half my time online on my ps3 and i play 4-5 hours a day.. Your percieved experience may be a little biased.. They've been telling you since the begining of this life cycle that xbox live is far and away better then the psn whenever they are basically on par.. With only a handful of differences, neither of which alter the experience that much... I have both a psn and a live account and my live account has been dormant for months... It is all based on perception, for me my friends and my enjoyment are on psn, for you its live.. Doesn't make either of the superior to the other...

[tuglu_pati]

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[JackBNimble]

I find it rather strange that people think the 360 is more of a multi-player console then the PS3. I would say I play (and all of my online friends) over 95% of the time online on PSN.

And guess what?... There are only a very few games that I can't play because the are 360 exclusives. And quite a few games that MS claims are exclusive I can play and do play on my PC.

So MS exclusive list really is smaller then they would want you to believe.

[JANF]

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[stuna1]

I'll have what he's smoking!

It's because variety and options are a good thing.

[syanara]

Microsoft showed us all a lot of third party/multiplatform stuff, Sony showed only exclusives outside of Assassins creed 3 and maybe one other game

[Cueil]

different mind sets... they've always handled E3 completely differently... Microsoft generally only has 1 game that is more then a year off... maybe 2... (not counting delays) where as Sony announces several... some without a reasonable chance of coming out soon(ish). Both are just biding their time for the next gen anyway though seems like Sony would have at least half their big studios on the PS4 now

[schlanz]

Wow damage control throughout this entire thread, rather than having anything positive to say about your beloved MS you make excuses for them and have to downplay everything Sony showed us.

Whether or not Sony's games don't have a release window, I'll trust history and enjoy the fact that Sony consistently gives gamers more games.

[Slapshot82]

They might have shown the same amount of gameplay, but what else does Xbox 360 have outside of what it showed on stage?

Sony has 60 Vita games coming in the next six months. Created an entire virtual show floor of their E3 space in PlayStation Home, and they didn't even what's potentially one of the largest upcoming releases on a home console: DUST 514.

[hellvaguy]

Vita is kind of irelevant tbh, when it comes to console discussions. Its and entirely different gaming venue that I personally cant stand looking at a small screen.

Not to take anything away from the the Vita, I love the new dual analog controls, but i just cant get into those portable devices. They are basicly a very small niche segment of the population.

[showtimefolks]

simple sony have 15 1st party studios

insomniac 2nd part
read at dawn 2nd party
QD a 2nd party

so that's 18 studios we know of.

all you have to do is what MS e3 for last 3 years and you will see they don't compare to sony when it comes to software. MS has gone soft on us with kinect and all this we want to be in your living room entertainment center

we helped MS be successful for first 4 years than they saw wii sales and they forgot about their core fanbse, watch them crawl back to us when they launch next gen(i am buying wii-u and ps4 not xbox720 same halo,gears and forza i mean where are the new Ip's)

but MS fanbase including me deserve a lot of blame we are just happy with MS for whatever they provide yet we hold nintendo and sony at different standards

[ThatsGaming]

So Sony Santa Monica showed a new iteration of the God of War engine, Naughty Dog showed a new iteration of the Uncharted engine (Implemented in Last of Us), and Quantic Dream showed the next iteration of the Heavy Rain engine (Implemented in Beyond).

While 343 showed a new iteration of the Halo engine, Epic revealed the next iteration of the Gears of War engine, and Turn 10 revealed a new iteration of the Forza engine implemented in Forza Horizon.

The only real difference between the conferences were that MS were honest that they were iterating their game engines and Sony flogged 2 of their 3 iterations as new IPs...

New IPs do not equal innovative game experiences. This console generation is max'd. Let's move on next year to the next real innovations.

[Nes_Daze]

LOL, I like you try to spin that Last of Us is a damn sequel to Uncharted...Incredible...same with Beyond, Just because it's the same engine, doesn't mean it's a sequel, it's a new IP, new storyline, new characters, new gameplay, new features, etc.

Very very different from another Halo, another Gears, and another Forza....Your logic is flawed.

[DigitalAnalog]

Correction, Beyond utilized a brand new engine. DC already stated it himself.

[ThatsGaming]

@Nes_Daze... I'm not spinning. It is fact that the engines are being reused (This is natural givin there financial investments into them, and there is nothing wrong with that). The issue I have is that people seem to think just because they introduced new IPs that translates to a win... So, if MS would have called Halo 4, "The Hero" and Forza Horizon, "Open Road" they would've had new IPs that would've equaled Sony.

I am simply pointing out that new IPs does not make it better. I would've liked to see more innovative new IPs. Not just IPs based on the same game engines we have already seen this generation.

@DigitalAnalog
I don't care what they say about the engine for Beyond. It is still based from Heavy Rain and that as obvious. While Last of Us is more like a 0.1 (minor) upgrade to the Uncharted engine, Beyond is probably a 1.0 (major) upgrade. God of War looked like a .01 upgrade.

Halo looks like a 1.0 upgrade to the Halo engine, Forza Horizon seems to be a .1 upgrade, and Gears is a .01 upgrade.

So, game engine wise both companies are advancing at a similar pace. I don't think that making a new IP makes a win... Lair, Too Human, and Haze were all new IPs this gen... Judging from the reviewer reception and sales, new IPs don't always translate into an advantage. Probably one of the reasons that Sony created the new IPs was that sales did not meet expectations. Otherwise, why would they introduce a new IP? Notice they didn't create a new IP for God of War's engine. This is because the God of War name is very strong with gamers. Whereas Uncharted is typically only strong with people who have played the series and same with Heavy Rain.

[Imalwaysright]

Oh yes and Gears has most likely 500 new iterations. Look at how many games are made with Unreal engine this generation and what is worst they all look and play alike!!! When i started playing MK i was pissed because it was the same exact gameplay, characters and story of the last 8 games i had played!! I mean Comon!!!

New engines wont bring squat to improve gameplay because with the motion capture that is done in the present, games are as realistic as they can be. We might have better animations and A.I but gameplay will essentially be the same.

[avengers1978]

okay I wouldn't call them equal, what did MS show that was "equal" to Last of Us, Beyond, or God of War.
and two of them are brand new IP's

[LackTrue4K]

this is all i saw at E3 2012!!!
http://i247.photobucket.com...

[jjdoyle]

ands we haves a winner!

[guitarse]

I love my PS3 and my Xbox 360, we play halo every day in this house, but when it comes to sheer wow factor xbox can't hold a light to titles like Uncharted (1-3).

With the exception of GT5, polyphony really slipped on that one and Forza is a beast of a game.

[Emilio_Estevez]

I think to most it was the fact that Sony showed off a new game (Beyond) and MS showed COD to put it simply. MS and Sony were both kind of a 'more of the same' type of show, but there was only 1 out of no-where surprise, being Beyond. Neither one were very good and both had painful moments to watch(Wonderbook, Usher)

Teh hardcore don't want COD, they want new things. Sony aslo showed Last of Us and PS All Stars, both games we knew about, but many people are eager to play for the first time. Halo and Gears will be hot sellers, but they are sequels(prequels), meaning you know what your getting.

Also, it depends who you ask. G4TV's audience had Halo4 and Tank! Tank! Tank! on top of their most talked about. Not sure how Tank got up there though.

[Double_Oh_Snap]

I disagree, I saw David Cage's Masterpiece in the making. The Last of Us and
GOW: Ascension.

The conference was very good to me but I see where your coming from.

[Blastoise]

Lets not pretend that wonderbook was as bad as usher now. Usher was just like "surprise! im preforming a full song to kill some time!" atleast wonderbook was a game, even if it was a total fail.

[sway_z]

Why is Wonderbook a fail? ...yeh, I agree it's not for everyone, but isn't that the point? ...it's obviously marketed for pre-school to young teens... It can't be a fail...it's just not yours or my cup of tea!

IMO Nintendo should have stole the show, but they gifted E3 to Sony....

I was very impressed with the visual fidelity of 360 with Halo 4. As a PS3 owner I thought it looked incredible...but that about it.

[Redempteur]

JK rowling is enough for this title to sell

" From the writter of harry potter" on teh box ..and hop watch it sell .

I won't play wonderbook but MOve need those games to broaden his influence over time I have no problem with those kind of game arriving 2 Years later

[Arnon]

You're in denial if you think a child, adolescent, or teenager will buy a book to play on their PS3. It's a damn game console, that plays video games. If they want a book, they'll buy an actual book.

Honestly, who would buy a book for their PS3 over a video game?

[Jacobster]

I almost had forgotten about Usher! Was almost cringe-worthy at his own publicity exploitation!

[BitbyDeath]

@Arnon, as a parent wouldn't you rather buy your child something educational to play with?

That is where wonderbook comes in.

[Arnon]

No, I would buy them LeapFrog for their educational gaming needs, since its won many awards for it's educational properties. If anything, I would rather have my kids active while playing video games, so they're not laying down all the time.

The PS3 is losing direction if this is their attempt to cater to a young audience.

[Marceles]

@Arnon

That "it's a game console" argument is really old...especially how each console can be used for multimedia purposes. If anything, 360 owners...the console supposedly in first place, brag about non-gaming features.

I remember when it wasn't cool to steer away from games on here and "PS3 has no games" was repeated forever...now all of a sudden motion controls and non-gaming is cool now that Xbox has it? Get out of here...I don't know how people became so blind this gen.

I can completely imagine the backlash Sony would get if they had the same conference as MS this year. "360 has exclusives! Yes for sure we're #1, have fun with Usher Sony, too bad that won't save you from being last! Buwahahah" But instead we're getting.... "that's ok, 360 showed an even amount of games and we're in 1st place anyway, gamers as a whole wins" Are you kidding me??

[Arnon]

Man, what are you talking about? All I said was "it's a damn game console". Is it not a game console? I don't know what all of this "double standard" stuff, let alone motion controls and this "what if" scenario has to do with my comment.

Sorry, but I don't see any child wanting to buy a book for their PS3, let alone sitting down for a couple of hours and actually playing it.

If I were to buy my children something catering to education, it would be LeapFrog, because as I said, it's won many awards for it's educational properties.

Also, you sound really bitter.

[KMCROC54]

What happened to Ascend, Lococycle, Matter + all the downloadable games.

[Canas2010]

LOL!

[KMCROC54]

There still game that are priced to sell even if you can't hold it like a deprived child holds onto an illusion of ownership.

[bunt-custardly]

Sony's audience appeared to be a lot more entertained than those watching Microsoft's. Perhaps that's a problem with going first.

[moparful99]

Was anyone else embarassed by the Usher performance? He was pitchy and out of breath half the time.. It was just... SAD

[Bathyj]

So he was out of steam and never really hit the right notes?

No wonder he was singing for Microsoft.

[Majin-vegeta]

Cuz M$ shows the same crap every year Halo,Geow,COD,timed DLC bla bla bla.As where Sony always has new things to show off to gamer's.

[ChunkyLover53]

You realize Sony showed multiplatform games and timed DLC too right? Had Microsoft actually showed off games like Forza Horizon, which is getting extremely positive press, I think people would be looking at Microsoft's conference in a different light.

I look at all three as a three way tie for last at this past E3.

[Jeff257]

You realize that there was no mention about the DLC being timed exclusive. They said exclusive and usually in Sony's case it means it isn't going anywhere else. Besides every year for at least the last three years MS has been touting the timed exclusive DLC for the yearly COD release as if it is the biggest thing for gaming. Again MS just harps on the same stuff year after year with nothing really NEW to show. Hopefully whenever the next gen starts MS can realize they can't rely on 3rd party titles, timed exclusive dlc, or just three or four major IPs to carry the new system and give gamers new experiences they can't get anywhere else.

[ShinMaster]

Sony got actual exclusive FREE DLC.

Not timed DLC that you still have to pay for.

[ChunkyLover53]

One wasn't better than the other, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all were sub par this year at E3. Not saying what they all showed weren't solid, but they weren't spectacular either.

[leogets]

u for real? the last of us was simply outstanding. it stole the show in my eyes and of many others too.

[afterMoth]

Soft gamers play COD. True gamers go with the quality Sony games.

[ChunkyLover53]

I cant stand the stupidity anymore. You realize that the top 4 or 5 best selling games all time on PS3 are Call Of Duty titles right?

So are those gamers soft? Or are they hard because they game with COD on PS3? SMDH

[Wolfbiker]

best selling doesn't equal best.

I'm sure no one here is considering draw something hardcore because its sells the most.

[ceedubya9]

Well, Jabb, if we go by afterMoth's clain, then the majority of PS3 and 360 gamers are "soft" since the Call of Duty franchise is a top seller on those consoles.

[ChunkyLover53]

@Jabberwocky237
I never said anything about best, but clearly he called anyone who plays COD soft. Games and core or casual are all in the eye of the beholder. I look at COD as both core and casual because I play it competitively and so do a lot of other people.

At the same time its casual because people can pick it up and be average at it pretty quickly, public rooms are a haven for casual gamers.

Also, afterMoth is insinuating that if you don't play on the PS3 you are soft as well? I mean this is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

[ShaunCameron]

And you know that those "soft" gamers who play COD make up about 33.3% of all PS3 owners, right?

[afterMoth]

Shaun and Chunky, please work on your reading comprehension. I said "quality Sony games". COD is NOT a Sony game.

COD is the McDonalds cheeseburger of FPS's. It sells a ton but has crap quality ingredients.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

You are still wrong either way. I don't play COD, never have and most likely never will but one does not have to go with the quality Sony games to be a true gamer. I just laugh at people like you that have that train of thought. I have the feeling that my words won't sink in but I have hope for gamers, even the so called "true gamers" that think like you and agreed with your comments.

[FFXI101]

Not to be an @ss, but come on! I'm a Sony fanboy even I can't stand what you said.

[tee_bag242]

Where is your logic there? How old are you anyway?

[Summons75]

MS had Nike and Sony had Wonderbook.....they both almost put me to sleep >.> Halo, Beyond, Resident Evil, Last of Us made watching both shows totally worth it in the end.

[r21]

i think you forgot Usher, he danced and asked everyone to stand up during MS conference XD

[Summons75]

oh right.....I think I blocked that out lol

[GhostofHorizon]

Perhaps because majority of the game that were on Microsoft press conference are going to be on PlayStation as well. So as far as exclusive content goes PlayStation won hands down.

[ceedubya9]

They were both nearly the same, the main difference being Sony's games can be considered more interesting in most gamer's eyes.

[THC CELL]

I'm sorry no game was equal to what Sony had sshown, Sony showed almost next gen ai. Story telling gaming not halo again or gears

[FFXI101]

I like Indigo Prophecy(Fahrenheit), Heavy Rain and Beyond looks even better.

As for the Last of US, that last scene with the headshot was awesome! I can't wait to play both games, I hope we won't have to wait too long for them.

[2pacalypsenow]

cuz ms only shows sequels Sony makes new games

[h311rais3r]

Because Microsofts only good game shown was halo 4...even some of the Sony crowd are excited for this one...only reason ms didn't completely die at e3 but then again....they ushered themselves out...

[BattleTorn]

Yeah, I love MS. But I wished they'd just quit with the Call of Duty shit.

Do I like that the 360 has lead-platform, for quite a few games? - sure.
Do I have any interest, at all, about Call of Duty - No, not at all.

[tinezedw]

Sony showed beyond two souls,playstation all stars,gow and the last of us.three of them new ips and Microsoft two sequels to games people are tired of and multiplaform games.that's why Sony's was better.

[ceedubya9]

Microsoft showed new IP's too. Whether you found them interesting or not is up to you, but I don't know why people are saying "no new IP's" when that was far from the case. What they showed didn't blow my socks off either, but I'm not going to pretend that nothing was there.

[tinezedw]

You must be talking about the xbox live and kinect games they showed right? LOL.

[ceedubya9]

Okay...? They showed new IP's. Whether they were live, Kinect, or disc-based games, that still doesn't change the point that they were new.

[cstyle]

we will see who's e-3 will pay off this holiday season.

[supraking951]

it doesnt matter, 360 sells more every month holidays or not yet its still not releasing new IPs like Sony. In the end 360 can sell how many games and systems they want but nothing good is coming out of it cause its just the same w/ MS, more Halo, Gears and Forza. Great series but tired no doubt. PS3 is taking risks and even though they fail sometimes they take more risks and release new IPs.
Doesnt make sense when clearly MS makes more money yet nothing is coming out for 360 supports but multiplatform games

[dead_eye]

You mean it sells more in America.

[cstyle]

"PS3 is taking risks"

Is that why the playstation division lost over 2 billion dollars? New ips don't really mean that people will go out and buy them.

[DigitalRaptor]

Cstyle, the playstation division lost that amount for more than just their exclusives that "don't sell".

What would be nice from Microsoft is one or two new IPs, especially ones that aren't being made to try and sell Kinect. They could easily recoup any losses from XBL Gold profit, but nope... you don't get even one creative new core IP at retail. Microsoft has the the resources to attempt at least 3 new IPs without long term financial risk.

I mean it now, if they don't cook up a good amount of new IPs next gen, it'll prove what we've been saying about Microsoft for a long time.

[CGI-Quality]

Which is completely irrelevant. I'm sure you knew that, you just decided to use your last two bubbles to tell us how useless your contribution to this subject really is.

[ginsunuva]

Equal gameplay?

Can someone provide the necessary calculations to show that they were equal?

[bunt-custardly]

I think the article references (with the pie charts) and breakdowns that they both showed equal amounts of gameplay during their conferences.

[Biggest]

Would an hour long demo of Pong equate to an hour long presentation of TLoU and Beyond?

[Wolfbiker]

Sony should have shown off Soul Sacrifice, No No Kuni and DUST 514 live.

Microsoft's was as good as it could of been where as Sony's somewhat underachieved.

[Wolfbiker]

Let me clarify, MS was as good as it could have been and Sony under achieved....but I still think Sony had a better conference..... it just could have been better.

[xursz]

I was one of your disagrees but thanks for clarifying and I agree.

+bubbles on account of my misunderstanding good sir.

[supraking951]

its sad MS is #1 every month in sales, sells more games and PS3 library, been out longer than PS3 yet MS still not producing the big games like Sony. Where is MS money going? How is Sony getting all these awesome First party support while MS has close to none other than Halo, Gears and Forza?!
How is Sony losing so much money yet offer PS+ that gives out 12 free games that when added all together values more than a year of PS+ and XBL together?
Im just happy I own both but more glad my PS3 is my go to system for games

[dead_eye]

As I said above you mean number 1 in sales in America right.

[Gamesgbkiller]

Sony .. hands down

[Clarence]

Easy Sony shows of 1 or 2 new franchises a year M$ doesn't .

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Sony showed these new IP's via demo or trailer reveal:
1) The Last of Us
2) Beyond Two Souls
3) Wonderbook (Not really a new IP but its new so I included it)
4) PS Battle Allstars (while a Smash Bros rip off it is a new IP)

MS showed off these new IP's via demo or traier reveal:
1)Ascend New Gods
2)Loco Cycle
3)Matter
4)Wreckateer
5)South Park
6)Forza Horizon (you can easily make a case for this being new IP rather than just another Forza game..its MS's new open world racer)

So there you go... 4 new IP's from Sony..one of which really was a tech demo for a new game play peripheral not an IP. MS had 5 absolutely new IP's and 1 more (Forza Horizon) that you can make a case for or against in terms of New IP.

I think the real key isn't that Sony showed more new IP...clearly they didn't...but rather Sony showed off 2 new IP's that also have a very large AAA retail feel. MS's were more geared toward downloadable IP rather than retail.

[xursz]

South Park isn't exclusive, bud. And I have no info on those other games you listed under M$ so I can't say if those are exclusive or not.

Forza isn't a new IP. -_-

[Tundra]

Forza isn't a new IP because it continues the use of the brand name "Forza".

Every Final Fantasy release shouldn't be considered a new IP because they're all different. It's still under the same trademark.

Resident Evil 4-6 aren't considered new IPs because they play differently compared to Resident Evil 1-3. Again, it's still all under the same brand name.

This should be no exception.

[stage88]

"6) Forza Horizon (you can easily make a case for this being new IP rather than just another Forza game..its MS's new open world racer) "

Disagree + bubble down for idiocy.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@xursz.. I stand corrected on South Park.. you are correct.

I know Forza Horizon isn't a new IP given it is using the Forza name sake and therefore technically isn't a new IP. I feel MS should have actually named the game differently and left Forza out of it given this game ultimately isn't anything like the previous Forza games. It really is an entirely different direction than the Forza IP has been. But that is an arguement for a different day.

@stage88 do what you need to do my friend. I guess trying to have a civil conversation gets you a down bubble if you don't agree with what is said... nice and neighborly of you.

[CGI-Quality]

Let's see...

FORZA, the IP, isn't new.
South Park isn't exclusive.

There were other problems with your post, but those are blatantly incorrect.

[jetlian]

doesnt matter 4 of the 5 summer arcade games are new ips and are exclusive.

So far this year MS has the better games and the next 6 months they will too. Name 1 big game sony has for the holidays? last of us MAYBE, gowa nope, beyond nope, oh yea PS All stars lol get real.

Halo,forza,fable, dance central will kill sony this holiday. Didnt even need to add the other exclusive xbla games such as.

Mark of the ninja, dungeon fighter online, kung fu strike and theres something else that I cant remember

[TheGreatIndonesia]

@jetlian

delusional bots what better games? if u include the witcher which i already played on steam... lol :D 360 is pretty dry this year, until now i didnt buy anything for my 360 but ps 3 i bought twisted metal, tales of grace f, atelier meruru, mlb the show 2012, yakuza dead souls, jax and daxter, journey, starhawk... :P

[jetlian]

steam isnt sony or MS lol. witcher 2,Alan wake, minecraft, fez, trials evo, b list games in bloodforge, fable heros, joy ride arcade.

I know im forgetting some!

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Wasn't there supposed to be a price drop thing, that would be the focus of my chart. Anyway sounds like sony won this one, better luck next time.

[MerkinMax]

I won't have much time to game this fall, so I specifically wanted to see Halo 4 and Last of Us at E3. Both of the games I really want blew me away, so as a gamer I'm happy. If you have the time to play the tons of games that come out in fall and next spring, then I could see your view of the conferences differ from mine.

[first1NFANTRY]

I wouldn't say equal. There's a reason no one is mentioning MS after their E3 conference. Sony just had more innovative games.

[tigertron]

I'd say both Sony and Microsoft's showings at E3 were equal.

To me it was a tie between The Last of Us and Beyond on the PS3 and Halo 4 and Gears Judgment on the 360.

[Wingsfan24]

We didn't even see much of Judgement though, and although I'm a huge Gears of War fan, that gameplay I saw of Judgement looks exactly the same as 3. Just not impressed yet. Halo 4, well its Halo, and I want it. The PS3 showings weren't all about the action like Microsoft's was though, and Beyond, The Last of Us and even Wonderbook, are new. Wonderbook to most older people looks stupid, but I can bet that the first little kid that sees that with Harry Potter on the cover is gonna go bonkers for it.

[ShaunCameron]

All I know is this. Since there are a decent amount of multiplatform games I'm interested in playing between now and whenever Microsoft decides to announce a new console, my Xbox 360 will definitely be active. The ergonomic and natural feel of it won't let me abandon it.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I truly think that Beyond and Last of Us are the only two reasons why Sony's conf. was viewed more favorably... Nothing else shown during Sony's conf. was a show stopper wow moment but they smartly book ended their conference with two new IP's that are also showing off extremely well. MS did well with Halo 4 but should have wrapped up with something new or just different than COD Blops 2. Heck put Tomb Raider up as the finale and put COD in the middle and I think the MS presser has a very different feel as we all knew the COD stuff was coming. It really was a let down even if the COD stuff looked good... it just didnt excite.

[Hicken]

How many core exclusives did Sony show off?

How many core exclusives did Microsoft show off?

How many of each were new IPs, and not sequels?

How difficult is that to grasp?

[capcock]

Because most of the games microsoft showed were multiplats?
And instead of a fresh new cool Ip we get a new freaking Halo and gears

herp fucking derp

[OC_MurphysLaw]

1)Ascend New Gods
2)Loco Cycle
3)Matter
4)Wreckateer
5)South Park

[stage88]

South Park is multiplat. Do some research before you post.

[garos82]

And wreckateer is angry birds for Kinect

[InTheLab]

Not sure why people are ignoring the new IPs from MS. Sure they were hidden in between Usher, Nike, Smart Glass, a bunch of multiplats...etc.

But there was Ascend, Lococycle, Matter...and a few others. Those games aren't AAA like The Last of US and Beyond, but they are exclusives...

[Jeff257]

And for all those XBLA games Sony also has exclusive PSN titles that were mentioned but also aren't being talked about. Sony still manages to secure great PSN games and get new IPs out while still keeping older franchises alive without relying solely on those franchises.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Jeff257, I do agree that Sony did a better job of book ending their conf. with these new IP's this year... It absolutely is what set them apart from MS this year. MS had plenty to show in the way of new IP but Sony did a much better job of showing off their heavy hitters.

Lets not forget last years E3 for Sony... what did they show us then? I bring this up because from time to time..they will rely solely on older franchises:
1) Uncharted 3
2) Resistance 3
3) Ico and God of War HD remakes
4) Infamous 2
5) LittleBigPlanet 2
6) StarHawk
7) Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Lots of games that are 100% all sequel IP's or HD remakes of games already out...

[Jeff257]

Starhawk while similar too Warhawk is not a direct sequel. Also Infamous, LBP, Resistance, and Uncharted are new IPs to this gen. Yes they were showing number 2s and 3s for those. But MS was showing off Gears of War 3, Halo 4, Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, Forza 4, and Dance Central 2.

This year MS showed Halo 4 again, Gears Of War: Judgement, Forza Horizon, and Dance Central 3. They also talked about the new COD DLC being timed exclusive and had another demo as well.

Sony however showed off some new things. Some of which we knew about before the conference. And yes there is another God Of War game. But Playstation All Stars Battle Royale, The Last of Us, and Beyond are new IPs.

[InTheLab]

So...just as I thought. No logical reason for this attitude towards MS this year.

Last year...we all jumped down MS' throat for lack of exclusives. Now, they're giving fans their top franchises and we have a problem with that because they're not New IPs. Nobody had a problem with Sony's lack of new IPs last year. It was sequel city. Now that MS is doing what Sony did last year (albeit on a smaller scale), we've shifted the conversation to something else.

Meanwhile, Sony's best games are already out and there's nothing coming down the pipe aside from Sly. But the 360 has their Flagship title due out and Forza Horizon.

I think it's time we layed off MS for while...at least for this reason. There's other s*** to bag on them about.

[YodaCracker]

I enjoyed Microsoft's conference more simply because they showed me more GAMES. That's what I watch E3 coverage for; the GAMES! I don't care if they are exclusive, multiplatform, Arcade releases... I just want to see what games I will be playing on my console in the future.

Microsoft showed:

Halo 4
Tomb Raider
Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Forza Horizon
Madden NFL 13
FIFA 13
Gears of War: Judgment
Fable: The Journey
Lococycle
Ascend: New Gods
Matter
Resident Evil 6
Fable: The Journey
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Wreckateer

Sony showed:

Beyond: Two Souls
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
Assassin's Creed III
Far Cry 3
God of War: Ascension
The Last of Us
Wonderbook
Assassin's Creed III: Liberation (Vita)
Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (Vita)

Although my favorite moment of the two conferences came from Sony (the breathtaking ship combat in Assassin's Creed III), I still preferred Microsoft's conference overall. Now I hate to be "that guy" - the one guy in the N4G comments section who is not biased in favor of Sony (oh, who am I kidding, I love it), but hey, I just call it like I see it. It seems most of the people on this site go into E3 determined to claim Sony was the winner and Microsoft was the worst, regardless of how their conferences actually turn out. You can tell it was a lot harder to make that claim this year... dare I say, impossible?

[KMCROC54]

Their fixed the list

Halo 4
Tomb Raider
Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Forza Horizon
Madden NFL 13
FIFA 13
Gears of War: Judgment
Fable: The Journey
Lococycle
Ascend: New Gods
Matter
Resident Evil 6
Fable: The Journey
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Wreckater
Assassin's Creed III

[ZoyosJD]

Fable: The Journey was listed twice...and at least 6 of the MS games you listed were multiplat and seen in a FREAKING montauge of games avalible and to be released on sony's systems at the start of their conference.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

***"but hey, I just call it like I see it."***

No you don't. You'd say MS had the better conference no matter what happened. Tell the truth. It's hilarious noticing that people who say things like "they don't favor any console" "they don't have blind loyalty to any console" "they call it like they see it" and so on ALWAYS seem to either bash Sony/PS3 on a regular basis or have CLEAR bias toward MS/360.

[Mounce]

Yea, I love how you put Fable: The Journey twice, you that desperate or something?

Oh yea, I also love how you put MADDEN and FIFA -_- yea, Great list there buddy, all them Sports and Multiplatform games they showed, OH MY!

The most gameplay that Microsoft showed off was Halo 4, Kinect, Sports, Sports, Sports, Sports, Baseball, and then Kinect again, Kinect features, Fable, Kinect, annnnnd South Park, which is also multiplatform along with Tomb Raider which was shown for a good while....

Case and point - Don't try too hard, you make yourself look like a desperate 360 fanboy.

[DiRtY]

Sony showed 7 games for PS3 (!!!) and people here say they showed more for gamers. Denial at its finest.

PS3 holiday lineup of exclusives this year is a joke and by far the worst in this generation.

LBP Karting, PSABR (2 obvious Nintendo rip-offs. Don't deny it) and Sly is all they have got for this holiday season. The fun part is that they mock MS for not catering to the core...

Sony published the flops named Tiwsted Metal and Starhawk, which had a big online hype but failed to miss the 700k mark in sales. So 98% of the PS3 users did not want to spend $50 on these titles.

I don't see a rational explanation why Sony could have won this years E3. Not at all.

Number of 360 games shown: 15
Number of PS3 games shown: 7

Number of 360 exclusives shown: 9
Number of PS3 exclusives shown: 5

Number of new announcements (games we did not know about before E3):

Xbox 360: 5
PS3: 2

Just hard facts that people on N4G hate so much.

[AIndoria]

Idiocy at its best. Well, no need to embarrass yourself further.

[Hicken]

I find it interesting that the Vita's games aren't counted, even though you're grading Sony as a whole, and the Vita is part of that. If you weren't trying so hard to tilt things in favor of your preferred company/console, you'd add the Vita's games in there, which would increase all Sony's numbers by at least two.

Also, your numbers for Microsoft are inflated by one, probably because you used the screwed up lists those friends of yours posted above.

[DiRtY]

@hicken

this is a PS3 vs Xbox 360 comparison, so I did not include the PS Vita. If you want to include it, go ahead.

The numbers for Microsoft and not inflated. Why don't you count by youself?! Fable was counted once. Actually I forgot Nike+ and Dance Central 3, which are exclusive games coming out this holiday season. So there you go with your two PS Vita games.

[OldSnakePS3]

its simple, sony cares about the hardcore gamer
and microsoft cares about $$$$$$

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Wonderbook says hello.

[shadowwizard]

Wreckateer too.

[Dno]

Nike, kinect, smart glass, and usher say hi...

[CGI-Quality]

You've already embarrassed yourself in this topic multiple times. We get it, you don't favor Sony, but continuing to spout nonsense does nothing for you (at least not what you'd like it to).

[Roper316]

MS = same old games year in and year out

Sony = same old games year in and year out but also adds new and different games & experiences at the same time.

new and different wins every time in my book. And I am not talking about Kinect games or that stupid Wonder Book crap either, both have their share of garbage aimed at the non gamer, I am talking about games that have the core gamer in mind when they are being conceived & developed.

[pwneddemocrat]

Damn son. It's the Quality not the Quantity.

How do these fools pass out as gaming journalists?
Absurd.

Only game worth mentioning was Halo 4, Gears didnt show gameplay.

[Cueil]

you really need to see gameplay of Gears?

[Dno]

yes

[SSKILLZ]

New Ip's is what it came down to and sony delivered

[cliffyboy21]

id say sony still beat microsoft by a little , reason why is because sony was more focused on mostly games and titles, whil microsoft was talking about add ons on xbox live and kinect games

[dubt72]

Sony has soooooooooo many exclusives, but they must not be very good since sooooooooo many PS3ers are forever on these boards arguing about how their machine is the best on 360-centric articles. "Rally the troops! Someone doesn't like Sony as much as us! Attack! Now I feel much better about my loyalties!"

[Lucretia]

well its easy, gamers are bored with halo and gears, and even when they arent its pretty common sense they will keep coming so its no shock when it gets announced. its like being shocked at a madden release.

but when sony keeps showing New Ip's and keeps spitting out 2 new Ip's a year and actually changes gameplay drastically between their sequels then gamers actually get excited.

Halo just looks like halo, tho i will play it im not hyped. Gears.....that game ended, but w/e i guess i can play the other one. Gears has changed so little from the first game every game feels more like an expansion pack.

if MS would drop kinect and focus on new games then gamers everywhere would be happier

[tuglu_pati]

"and actually changes gameplay drastically between their sequels then gamers actually get excited. "

Last time I checked U1,2,3, all GOfW, Resistance games to name a few did not changed their gameplay drastically. So i don't know what you are talking about.

[Lucretia]

and halo and gears dont change it at all

[omi25p]

Dont Talk S*it. watch the new god of war game e3 gameplay, It is identical to God of war 3 except you can pick up enemy weapons.

Now look at halo Reach and compare it to Halo 4. The graphics are improved the gameplay is improved, the new enemies change the gameplay drastically.

Then look at uncharted 2-3. They literally copy and pasted the multiplayer, they made an amazing campaign but chucked a bunch of different storys into the game resulting in a story that made no sense.

Then look at gears 2-3. Improved graphics, 4 player co-op, Beast mode, enhanced horde mode.

[Jeff257]

Actually they have changed God Of War quite a bit with the new one. The graphics have been improved so much that even the menu screen Kratos is the same character model as the one you see in cinematically and gameplay. He also is much thinner than before.

They also have new enemy types which we say in the demo and no longer will killing a minor boss be a QTE. Instead they give you full control over when he attacks and gives you the ability to dodge the boss attacking you. Another new addition is the ability to tether to an enemy to pull them around or use them as a weapon against other enemies on screen. Since you already mentioned the ability to use other weapons that can be picked up I won't really go over that. But you did miss that we can also use the Rage meter more often now and it zooms in on Kratos when you use it. All of these things will change how you play the game.

Oh and they are also adding in a multiplayer component to the new GOW game. So please can you explain how the new God Of War is the same as the previous titles? Frankly you can't since you want to act like better graphics and different enemies will change how people will play Halo 4 and that makes it an entirely new experience. At the end of the game you still would have had to shoot the enemies. Hence it is a FPS.

[CRASHBASHUK]

tbh sony was better the M$ one went out about apps a game console is about GAMES not app's

[omi25p]

Microsoft showed 3 exclusives core games, Sony showed 3 exclusive core games. Dont talk cr*p

[CRASHBASHUK]

oh god a xbox fan boy the only app the playstation conference talked about was there mobile app thats all sony did talk about games a lot more

[kevnb]

Reading through comments its clear which console most n4g users own.

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Oh boy people are just looking for any chance to dish out their hate for each other, or is it envy?

[dubt72]

For me it's more derision than hatred, lol

[alb1899]

Last of us is uncharted with other name......if that is the new thing then halo 4 you can call it némesis. There is Beyond that Sony show at e3 but no gameplay and i remember some games that Sony broght to every e3 since sony's lounch and never went to street so stop that. We talk about Beyond when is ready to go because maybe it never happen.

[360ICE]

Obviously, that's not what it comes down to. If Sony's 49% of gameplay was all wonderbook, then would that make for a good conference? No. Quality matters. And it is totally ridic to break it down like this. The Last of Us made my jaw drop to the floor. That alone was worth way more to me, than say, 100 hours of the Black Ops demo.

[OooHJohnny]

Great graphics... good choice of colors...

[StreetsofRage]

Sony Fanboys: Sony won
360 Fanboys: 360 won

Real gamers: Both had an equal showing with Ubi raising the bar.

[AgreeFairy]

That's impossible. 360 has no games.

[StreetsofRage]

I always raise an eyebrow with Sony's E3. They tend to show small teasers that's not even close to going gold. Everybody went goo for gaga with The Last Guardian... 2 YEARS AGO!!! And still we have no information about that game. Microsoft tends to show games that come out that year or soon thereafter.

Sony is smart tho'. They know they have a rabid fan base. They know how to get the cattle riled up. A simple teaser with no gameplay is good enough for them. From all the comments on here, it looks like it worked again.

[StrongMan]

"Microsoft tends to show games that come out that year or soon thereafter."

Oh yeah, then what happened to RYSE?

[Soldierone]

It wasn't even equal....MS had one game I was really looking forward to, Gears of War and all we got was a CG trailer....Same with fable on rails (thats what I got from the trailer)MS also spent a lot of time on Kinect games (we get it, it has a microphone.....), and a good majority of their conference was third party stuff.....the most they got was stupid "timed exclusive" DLC crap.

As for Sony, exclusive times what 5? The only real area they messed up was spending too much time on Wonderbook. They had even more exclusives being shown during the pre and after show too....and still didn't get to everything.

When your highlight is call of duty, something might be wrong.

[Condemnedman]

lol @ jokers on this site .They might as well rename it PS3 blog website. the same numptys who say sales dont matter will be the the ones shouting from the rooftop if the sales were the other way around :OD . Cant you just play your console and stop being so paranoid ?

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Isn't it funny when someone pretends to not take sides, only to take sides later. Yet another article fuelling a childish war. If you take this stuff seriously your either working for one of the businesses or your a fanboy sorry...

[ZeV]

Microsoft sucks,their iIPs are outdated ! Forza horizons is mediocre and Halo looks like a 5 years old game ! Sony wins by far with the amazing Beyond,The Last Of Us and God Of War ascension ! These games are incredibles !

[BlackSharinganX]

pretty much microsoft showed the same thing as last year, a halo, a gears, a forza, and a fable and a cod. Count the bullcrap apps and usher just went to hell. only thing that look good was halo 4.

[josephayal]

i only have 34 PS3 Exclusives in my PS3 collection :)

[BabyTownFrolics]

N4G is biased towards the PS3, it is no reflection of reality. I game on both the ps3 and 360 and I enjoy both (currently gears 3 and starhwak take up most of my MP time). Only on N4G is this retarded console war raging, it is a marketing tool used by console manufacturers and gaming websites. In fact if I were most of you on this web site I would be embarrassed by how easily used you are. But I'm sure I will be disagreed to hell, the fact that this is the top article at the moment exemplifies why I and many others come here less and less. This is not a gaming community, this a pro PS3/Sony anti everything else mob, a lame impotent beast without reason, in fact if you come here regularly I would argue that you actually hate gaming and are at your core a narcissistic sociopath.

[KontryBoy706]

other than Sony's outstanding first party devs. who the hell hasn't seen halo, gears, forza, and call of duty enough to become bored of it even if it comes in a different shade color and box? enough is enough

[cyclindk]

Don't care which was "better."

But a pie chart and a list (an embarrassingly compiled one at that) does not equate to "calculations."

Real heavy science going on here, you betcha...

[LFC1EE]

BUBBLES FOR YOU.

[LFC1EE]

WHO CARES ITS OLD HARDWARE BOTH THE XBOX AND PS3.
Thats all i hear on here ps3 is better no xbox360 better the truth is your all using very old hardware so shut the f#ck up you all sound f#cking silly.
WE ARE GAMERS NOT IDIOTS, just think what someone who wants to take up console gaming reading this sh#t is going to think.

[thedizzle23]

more cinematic = sony

[Drainage]

this is N4G aka PS3 fansite so obviously SONY won . I mean they show Beyond greatest game ever.....game

[Machina]

Because Sony showed some new IP, whereas MS showed the same franchises they keep releasing on an almost annual basis now (Gears, Fable, Forza, Halo).

Not that Sony's conference was anything special either, mind you. But they did enough to make it better than MS's.

[horndog]

Not even a free bluray player or price drops nor a million exclusives can pull Sony out of this gen. Worldwide numbers will tell you that. There's a reason why Sony is last this gen. People rather play on Xbox or wii . Only in the tiny world of n4g are Sony exclusives very desirable . Lol

[ufo8mycat]

So you prefer to have a console that has higher sales and lower quality games?

Very interesting - The only person that would prefer this is if they aren't really a gamer, but have stocks in Microsoft or something

The console that wins this gen, isn't the one with more sales (thats for the companies to drool at).

The console that wins this gen is the one with the better quality game library, and the PS3 is far and away ahead this gen.

[stephmhishot]

I think the tone has to do with a lot of it. There's no doubt MS showed a lot of gameplay at E3, but it felt like "okay, we have to do this or else", but aside from that it was all about connecting every device in your house and pocket to the 360. With Sony, Tretton sort of just read off what PSN offers in terms of various services, then moved on back to games.

[UnitSmiley]

Microsoft has been getting away with murder for years. Basing everything off of popularity and image. It's never about the games oh no, it's about the message they try to send out "we are the coolest brah" and the celebrities they bring on stage.

God forbid a video game conference be about video games.

Sony has it's share of blunders too. Like Wonderbook which AT LEAST IS STILL A GAME. But Sony continues to bring games to their hardcore fans and even push new Ip's this late in the generation. I honestly have no freakin idea why everyone is defending Microsoft like they are something amazing. All they do is shove kinect/casual ware down their customers throats, show a ton of multiplat games and then walk off like they own the whole damn industry.

God of War being milked? Please, there was 1 God of War for PS3 this gen. How many Halos this gen? Oh right. What about the Gears series? I am a fan of gears btw (the only 360 exclusive worth a damn imo), but there's no denying it's already run it's course.

"oh but but but look at our timed dlc" Please, if you are really using TIMED dlc as an reason to claim 360 is better than PS3 then I feel sorry for you.

PS3 has many more high quality exclusives and is focused on bringing even more to its customers. And to those that say "No Sony exclusives sell as good as 360 ones" No shit. That's because there are so many Sony exclusives that people can't afford to buy every single one. It's different with Microsoft, whose fans are literally starved for exclusives so when one finally does ever roll around of course it sells well.

I hate all the bullshit from Microsoft. I hate that they hardly have any exclusives and they milk the hell out of em. I hate that they are focused on casual bs right now. I hate that they seem to forget about the head start over Sony but STILL try to use sales as an argument despite Playstation outselling the 360 every year. Most of all though, I hate that people actually let them get away with all of this and even pay them to do it.

[Father Murder X]

Microsoft simply showed and gave the people what they wanted. Halo 4 will probably outsell every Ps3 exclusive that was shown at E3 combined in 1 day. What is wrong with giving people more of what they want. You all pretend that just because Sony makes a game its good. Apparently based off sales the general public feels the opposite that the sony fanboys that are on this site. Most ps3 owners prefer COD over Killzone, uncharted, Little Big Planet, etc. Metacritic scores and game of the year awards don't pay the bills.
You have to give the people what they want. Microsoft does that. Again I am not saying everything they do is right but they are making more money than Sony right now. I will be in line to pick up my copy of Halo 4 and Gears: Judgment but I will not be in line to pick of Beyond and Last Of us.

Instead of making under achieving exclusives they should have made a decent Socom for this gen.

[UnitSmiley]

Lmao Metacritic scores and game of the year awards don't matter. Yet you said just because Sony makes a game doesn't make it good. Obviously those scores and awards were given for a reason. You wanna argue about sales? What's the point, that proves nothing. I could make the arguement any casual game on the Wii that sells more than other games on 360 or PS3 must be the better game right?

[alb1899]

Ask SONY if sales don't matter......

[masa2009]

1) The Gears Judgment reveal comes close to Gears 3 and features no gameplay details

2) Halo gameplay was underwhelming. They said that the game would have a great sense of scale, and what they showed looked like the beginning of Halo 3. It was a forest corridor.
They should not have shown the beginning of the game, and have focused on the open ended level design elements that distinguish Halo from the competition.

3) Splinter Cell is not an exclusive anymore, and the series does not have the mystique it used to have in the mid-2000s when it was leaps and bounds beyond what could be done elsewhere, and the Xbox version destroyed the PS2 version mightily.

4) The Forza open world spin-off and its new aspects compared to main Forzas were not highlighted very well in the main press conference, even though I watched the extended presentation by the lead designer (distinct from the MS press conference) and it came across better.

5) No Fable

Basically, MS banks on a small number of exclusives and this year, they were not showcased very well.
Sony, on the other hand, has a bunch of solid critically respected brands that allow it to cruise through these media events relatively safe, even without stealing the show per se.
However, not all these brands are very popular with the audiences, so let's not put too much importance on these EA press conferences.

[ironmonkey]

bills are paid otherwise sony would not be here. i wont live off halo 4 cause noone even remembers the other dead titles. and thanks to sony i have choices of better exclusives. ask anyone what system has better hardcore games and not just your average gears but the gritty gore guts i dont give a f games like god of war 3 that beats anything on 360. sure ms makes money but sony does also and that enough to make way better games. people have been sayin this for a long long time, were still waiting to see the wow in a 360 game.

[jamesensor]

Neither, since ps2, xbox and psp. They are becoming two control freaks along with nintendo. Opressive drm, register everything, monitor every press on your console's power button, always online, can't borrow a game to a friend, can't resale used game to buy new one, hype a game and find out it's not what we expected or were told, E3 looking like a stream of upcoming movies... These are some examples of what we have now and what some of what we'll have in the future, perhaps. I like the pc with its immense world though... lol and android.

[IHateYouFanboys]

i love how on N4PS3G the absolute MOST important thing is NEW IPs. doesnt matter if the new IP is terrible, doesnt matter if the new IP is a freaking interactive book that doesnt even work in its on-stage demo - as long as its a NEW IP. and as long as its not a new IP on the 360, cause then they just get disregarded (like how every PS3 fanboy in here is just conveniently forgetting about the 3 BRAND NEW NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE IPs that were announced for the 360 in their E3 conference).

you know what? believe it or not, id rather have another sequel/prequel to Gears of War, Halo, Forza, Rock Band, Splinter Cell, Bioshock, SSX, Half Life, Quake, etc etc than a new IP that might turn out to be mediocre, or even worse - just plain terrible. i KNOW that the new Forza is gonna be freaking awesome. i KNOW the new Gears of War is gonna be freaking awesome. do i KNOW that for Wonderbook? do i know that for Beyond? no. in fact, after seeing both of them, i will say with 100% certainty that Gears/Halo/Forza/Splinter Cell will be better games, and more fun to boot.

you PS3 faithful need to stop sackriding the "new IP" catchphrase. just because its a new IP doesnt mean its good, and most definitely doesnt mean its better than existing franchises.

One E3 conference out of the big 3 was better - microsofts. they announced new IPs, they showed new games in the 2 biggest, highest selling and highest rating new franchises of the generation, showed an off-shoot of the undisputed king of console racing sims, and showed the most anticipated 3rd party games around. then they showed SmartGlass to top it all off.

Sony showed games everyone already knew about, a new "game" that noone cares about, and nothing on the vita apart from 3 ports. whoop-de-doo.

if Halo/Gears/Forza were PS3 exclusives this site would explode in a fit of e-jizz every time a new game in the series got announced. but because theyre not, you all pretend theyre boring and that noone wants them. well guess what? Halo and Gears WILL sell more and get better reviews than every PS3 exclusive coming out in the next 12-18 months.

people want them, people will buy them, and people will enjoy them because theyll most likely be excellent games - excellent games that you cant play because you decided to pledge allegiance to a multi-billion dollar company (although in sonys case, only just XD) that couldnt give 2 $hits about you. me? ill be happily playing Halo, Gears, Forza, God of War, Last of Us, and whichever other non-linear-cinematic "games" sony throws out.

[CernaML]

The irony in your name baffles me.

Oh, and you can't be the undisputed king of console racing sims if you can't even sell half the amount as the competition and show a decline in sales in one generation at the same time. LOL Yeah.. people sure want Forza!

Microsoft's conference sucked. There's no denying that.

You want to know why people are excited for these new IPs? Because they're being developed by proven studios that have been doing nothing but pumping out amazing games left and right. They will sell millions and that's all that will matter. Can you please just deal with that? Why does the excitement for new IPs offend you so much? Jeez...

Halo and Gears will be the most sold and highest rated this year? Most sold maybe, but did you also think Gears 3 would outscore Uncharted 3? lol

Yeah, these games will be big. But in the end... it really won't make a lick of a difference. The PS3 will still outsell the 360 on a monthly basis and have its own share of critically acclaimed multi million selling exclusives to boot.

[LFC1EE]

COOOOOOOOOOL DOWWWWWWWWWWWWN THERE GAMER.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Do you listen to yourself?

***"One E3 conference out of the big 3 was better - microsofts. they announced new IPs, they showed new games in the 2 biggest, highest selling and highest rating new franchises of the generation, showed an off-shoot of the undisputed king of console racing sims, and showed the most anticipated 3rd party games around. then they showed SmartGlass to top it all off."***

This is EXTREMELY hilarious. Why do you have Microsoft having new IPs as a reason why their conference is better when your first THREE paragraphs are about how new IPs are unproven pieces of turd...? Sony showed off GOW Ascension one of Sony's highest selling franchises and PS All-Stars Battle Royale a highly anticipated game among Sony fans...Sony ALSO showed off anticipated 3rd party games in Assassin's Creed 3 and Far Cry 3. They revealed that PS+ subscribers will be getting several games for free each month to top it all off... yet you make it seem like Sony Conference was extremely inferior to Microsoft's..

***"if Halo/Gears/Forza were PS3 exclusives this site would explode in a fit of e-jizz every time a new game in the series got announced. but because theyre not, you all pretend theyre boring and that noone wants them."***

Your hypocrisy AMAZES me. Yeah, people pretend that Halo/Gears/Forza are boring JUST as YOU PRETEND that Beyond/Battle Royale/Uncharted are boring. You claim to not have an "allegiance to a multi-billion dollar company" but it is clear you "sackride" MS.

***"Halo and Gears WILL sell more and get better reviews than every PS3 exclusive coming out in the next 12-18 months.

people want them, people will buy them, and people will enjoy them because theyll most likely be excellent games"***

So how come Beyond isn't a game that "people want"?
How come Battle Royale isn't a game that "people will buy"?
How come they aren't games that "people will enjoy"?
Is it because you say so? What you are doing is no different than Sony fans.. you're just doing it on the opposite side... which obviously... is Microsoft.

Wow, here's the thing that needs to stop at N4G just as much as all the blind Sony fans.... WHAT NEEDS TO STOP is all these people that are claiming that they AREN'T fanboys just because they aren't a Sony fanboy. There so many MS fanboys here claiming to be "neutral" and "above fanboy nonsense" just because they aren't SONY FANBOYS. That lie really needs to stop just as much as the blind Sony fanboys on this site currently.

[noctrnl13]

Thank you for making some sense on N4G. In my short time of being on here I've seen very little of it.

[Neko_Mega]

Yeah, Microsoft's E3 was boring because it was mostly about Smartglass and the only games that I care about was Halo 4 and maybe this new Gears.

Sony the only thing I got kind of sick of seeing about was Wonderbook (yes it looks good and fun, but I want the other games more then it).

[LFC1EE]

OK CALM DOWWWWWWWWWWWWN.

[Rock_On_PS4]

It has taken 5.5 years for the PS3 to erase 4 of the 6 million lead the X360 started with a 1 year head start over the PS3. Despite PS3 having a much longer list of exclusive games X360 has done very well to be competitive with the much more established Playstation brand.

The X360 apparently cheated and its extra 6 million sales sold before the PS3 launched should not be counted.

[UnitSmiley]

Nobody said it shouldn't be counted. But when people use sales as an argument they seem to forget about the entire year the 360 went unopposed.

Japan and Europe prefer the PS3. The consumers in the US are just not that freakin intelligent apparently. (born and raised in the US myself. Everyone I know who prefers the 360 doesn't know jack about gaming)

[DasTier]

I don't know who you've been talking to, but I know a ton more people in europe with 360s than ps3s. You barely even see them advertised in the UK anymore.

[noctrnl13]

Because the UK is the entirety of Europe *facepalm* It is fact that the Ps3 outsells the Xbox in Europe in fact the Xbox only outsells the Ps3 in America.

What that says about us, I don't know.

[Elvis]

Because different people have different opinions.

[mcnablejr]

Ms won, again

=]

[PixL]

I think I missed the part when Microsoft demoed a survival third person game with non-scripted AI. Was it before or after all the Kinect-streaming-usual-stuff?

[StreetsofRage]

Yikes! One thing this article proved is how rabid the sony faithful are. Wow! I wasn't expecting this to be the hottest for a full day.

I guess they're still fuming over that other recent article where Sony admitted being in last place.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

lolz

[Awesome_Gamer]

Sony are the only tone that still cares about the "core" gamers

[DasTier]

Such a dumb statement. Do you realize how many core games still come out on 360? The PS3 has what, 4 exclusive on the 360? You realize that won't make much of a difference. Multiplat games are where most of the core gaming will take place (On both consoles).

[frankiebeans]

i never read something so stupid in my life....how do things like this get excepted seriously.

[00000000000000000001]

Sony is just the greatest! I wonder why I purchase and play more games on my old 360.

[Dape]

@Arnon
Explain why there's people playing Kinect sports,Sports Champions, Wii sports and so on... Sure if they want to play sports they just go outside and play, going by your way of seeing things -_-

[Tzuno]

I am a user of Xbox 360 and i have to say that Naughty dog is the best luck of Sony on the other hand Microsoft have Rare and does nothing and to think back then Rareware was a good publisher. To see them reduced by Microsoft is a shame. Microsoft have many others i chose Rare to begin with because they were really good back then KI 1and 2 DK series Goldeneye, Banjo , Etc. let them Develop you ...Microsoft.

[SpinalRemains138]

I cannot even play my 360 anymore online for more than 20 minutes. The ridiculousness that is people yelling into their mics, as if anyone cares what they have to say, is just indicative of the times. That Twitter and Facebook somehow matter and that everyone thinks that others want to know what's on their mind.

They don't matter, and we don't want to know what you have to say. We just want to play some games.
Less chatting...........more gaming.
SONY gets it

[FATAL1TY]

Best exclusives, Superb graphics, New IPs