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DICE/EA Cannot Afford to Neglect the Console Versions of Battlefield 3

While DICE has gone out of their way to create the idea that the PC version of Battlefield 3 is the superior version, this also makes the console version appear to be inferior and nobody wants to own an inferior product. Knowing that most of their profits would come from the consoles, DICE needs to get on board and market the console version of BF3 in a way in which it isn't seen as an inferior version to the PC version but rather it's own unique experience.

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Dart894736d ago

I think they're waiting till E3 to show console footage.

disturbing_flame4736d ago

EA can do a presentation on PS3. It's a supposition.
Activision will do a certainly presentation of MW3 on 360.

Anyway yes EA can't neglect consoles when you see a title like Black Ops sold at more than 20 millions unit worlwide and you compare this number to the seel of the game on PC there's like a gap that nobody can't see.

The best version of the two games will be on PC but Activision and EA have a tremendous interest in making an enjoyable game on consoles.

BeastlyRig4736d ago

bf3 might be at the EA conference.

PhantomT14124736d ago

"The best version of the two games will be on PC"

Unless the PC version of Modern Warfare 3 is neglected like MW2's (no dedi-servers, no lean, very limited system setting, no mods, etc.).

disturbing_flame4736d ago

Even with all those missing features the PC version is superior.
On high settings the game looks really better and it also can run more than 60fps.

MMFGaming4736d ago

DICE has consistently done an excellent job with console versions of Battlefield since Bad Company. In fact, it's arguable they've been giving PC the bum deal as of late.

That said, consoles are inherently limited, whereas the sky is the limit for the PC where fancy graphics cards and new processors are king.

As long as the player cap is around Bad Company 2 level, I won't have any complaints.

Pandamobile4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Even though the 360 and PS3 version of BF3 will be hollow shells of the PC version, it'll still kick MW3's ass in terms of over all fun and scale (unless you're a fan of unbalanced weapons, perks and maps)

The author of the article makes some pretty terrible arguments though.

"- Because DICE has pretty much convinced the PC crowd, from E3 until launch, the focus in terms of marketing should be on the console versions, not the PC version. "

Or, just show both

"market Battlefield 3 in a way that says the console version of BF3 is the definitive shooter this fall over Modern Warfare 3. Make the console version of BF3"

DICE has worked long and hard on their engine, and they're going to want to show it off as best as they can, and they're not going to be able to do that by giving us all this console attention.

"Continuing with the console focused marketing push for BF3, at PAX Prime, have a console only multiplayer playable set of kiosk set up to allow the fans to experience"

WHY. People want Battlefield 3. Most console gamers have never even played a real Battlefield game. Why the HELL would they show off the 24 person multiplayer at E3, and not the 64 person PC multiplayer that actual fans of the Battlefield series have been waiting to see since 2005.

"Because multiplayer maps on the console versions will be smaller than the PC version, then to counter that, the console versions should have some exclusive maps that would create a better experience for the 24 players (12 vs 12) atmosphere. "

There's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't release those maps on PC too. PC servers aren't stuck at 64 players. You can go down from there. You can have a 12 person server if you really feel like it.

"This would also eliminate the BF3 console = inferior version because instead of just having smaller versions of PC maps"

No it wouldn't.

"Finally, to extend on the previous point, I would also add exclusive multiplayer modes made specifically for the 12 v 12 experiences that probably wouldn’t work in a 32 v 32 experience. "

Another stupid point. If they were to release these low end game modes exclusively on the console versions, that would end up backfiring more than you know.

"So DICE and Electronic Arts needs to seriously get on the ball and take it easy on the PC version of BF3 = The Best Experience and shine a bit more positive attention on the console version if they want to seriously convert many of these COD fans into playing BF3."

DICE and EA know that BF3 will sell a ton of copies. They're not expecting Call of Duty numbers, but I'm sure they're estimates are somewhere in the ballpark of 10-12 million across all three platforms. What they REALLY want to do is to have that quality bar raised so astronomically high, Call of Duty will never be able to touch it and they can rest easy knowing that they are the better game.

(sorry for the essay comment)

Convas4736d ago

You say 10-12 million sales, but if they do not show console footage at E3 they run the risk of under-selling the console front of the Battlefield 3 and thus they fail in their own ambitions to take down Call of Duty.

I will be supremely disappointed in them if they show more PC footage at E3. Means that they care nothing or very little about Consoles, and that it's probably not worth purchasing.

We've seen what they are capable of on PC. We don't need anymore affirmation on that front.

LOLOLFFSA4736d ago

Agreed. The console audience is so wide and important in terms of sales. If they dont show console gameplay on E3 there might be some problems. Knowing the frostbite engine and its capabilities I'm still going to purchase BF3 to my 360 even if I can see some gameplay 2 days to launch :D

Pandamobile4736d ago

They're obviously going to show both at E3.

EA's plan was to come out guns blazing with the PC footage to show everyone just how awesome their game will look. Closer to the release they'll start showing a mix of both.

They're not stupid. They know they have to cater to both camps.

BeastlyRig4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

"I will be supremely disappointed in them if they show more PC footage at E3. Means that they care nothing or very little about Consoles, and that it's probably not worth purchasing. "

you better hope not not! then all console gamers will just have cod! Unless your fine with that then cool!

thrasherv34736d ago

"...this also makes the console version appear to be inferior and nobody wants to own an inferior product."
But the console itself is an inferior product. DICE are game developers, not magicians. They can only do so much with so little. I still have faith in them. I will be getting BF3 on the console(haven't decided which one) because they always make a solid product. They don't "neglect" any version. But they do always fuck up their releases. Unstable multi-player because of "unexpected demand."

Hey, DICE, order bookoo servers, k?

MMFGaming4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Long time Battlefield fans have come to expect this, to be honest. I can't think of a single Battlefield game that has launched without multiplayer crashing for the first couple weeks.

Surprisingly, Medal of Honor was smooth sailing, so hopefully Battlefield 3 will follow suit.

thrasherv34736d ago

Did it? I remember seeing "unexpected demand" thrown around after the release and players stats being wiped out. But I did not get MoH, so I could be wrong. But if it was a solid release maybe they will finally get a BF game out the door without hiccups. Hell, I had trouble playing BF2MC. No idea how the hell that happened. Only me and 7 others bought that game.

MMFGaming4736d ago

I think that happened with BC2. I don't recall any snags with MoH though, but I didn't play that half as much as BC2 so maybe I missed the downtime.

I love DICE to death, but I'm not counting on a smooth launch. It'd be awesome if it did, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Still a day one purchase for me, though.

SoapShoes4736d ago

With games like Killzone 3 and MAG, there isn't much excuse for Battlefield 3 to be inferior. Obviously the PC version will have higher graphics but the consoles can hold a high level of graphics, support large amounts of players, and there is no excuse for it to be gimped other than graphics.

Pandamobile4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

You clearly don't understand much about the limitations of the current generation of consoles.

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EA to Spend Billions Boosting Share Prices After Mass Layoffs

EA has announced it will engage in a shareholder-pleasing share buyback program just a couple of months after mass layoffs at the studio.

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Yi-Long3d ago

Well, anything to make those shareholders happy, I guess. They're all that matters in this industry nowadays.

badboyz093d ago (Edited 3d ago )

EA stocks haven't been profitable in over 5yrs. They better hope Take-two don't get the FIFA license lol.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein66d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga65d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo65d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken66d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN65d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199265d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575665d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies65d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde65d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai65d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken65d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
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Eonjay65d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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