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Gaming's biggest flops

The games industry can be a fickle world. A game could be fantastically made and receive rave reviews from the critics, but that doesn't always mean it'll be a commercial success, as many of the titles over the next few pages prove.

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MintBerryCrunch4786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

i have a problem with calling some of these masterpieces such as Shenmue and Okami flops even if they didnt sell as much as the devs wanted to...in no way shape or form are those games flops

Anon19744786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

You can have the greatest game of all time...if no one buys it then it's a flop. Maybe it was a critical success, maybe and artistic masterpiece - but generally a flop is considered a flop if the production and marketing greatly outweigh the revenue.

It's a business thing, and Shenmue and Okami were flops. Great games, but flops. And that's the danger of video game development today. With games that cost so much money to develop, it's a risky business. You could create a masterpiece like Okami, that ruins your company. That's why there's hope with digital downloads. Developers increasingly are turning to smaller, downloadable games because the risks just aren't there like the big, AAA titles. You can afford to make a great game that doesn't sell and it won't necessarily put you and your staff out of work - and thusly you're more willing to take some creative risks.

I was sorry to see Grim Fandango on this list. That's one of my favorite games of all time and while I knew Tim left Lucas Arts after that - I didn't realize that Grim Fandango did so poorly in sales. I think everyone owes it to themselves to play through Grim Fandango at least once. That game was the pinnacle of the point and click adventure genre.

Edit below: Regarding Haze. Haze, despite the hype and the disappointment (being merely mediocre instead of AAA) didn't sell all that badly. It managed almost a million copies which is something 80% of games never achieve in their lifetime. Free Radical was struggling even before Haze's release and losing their Star Wars Battlefield didn't bode well for the company's long term hopes. Haze didn't do badly, but they needed to hit it out of the park and that didn't happen. Hardly a flop though. Just a note - the Haze team then were bought by Crytek and became Crytek UK. They had a lot to do with Crysis 2's development.

-Alpha4786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

Well said, you hit the nail on the head.

That is exactly what a flop generally is understood to be, though there is also flops when it comes to hype.

Okami sadly flopped, but at least it wasn't hyped like games today are. It's a modest game. I also think it's nice it got a Wii port and a DS game. So at least it's still around

These days everything seems to get hyped to sell the most, kill something else, or get AAA 10/10 status.

Lots of games fail to meet hype and IMO causes games to flop on hype, despite being good games.

Ryudo4786d ago

I think it's mostly about sales. I didn't bother reading the entire article because I hate sites that use that reload the page 10x trick to see the entire list for hits.

But everything I did read was about sales of said game, I can't see anyone in there right mind calling Shenmue a bad game.

But from a sales standpoint it flopped badly.

Ducky4786d ago

Grim Fandago and Okami.

Makes me sad. =(

Urrakia344786d ago

How is Haze not on that list?

gunnerforlife4786d ago

yeah that kinda shocked me loool
should of been on there not just for sales but for quality wise as well

Lucreto4786d ago

Grim Fandago and Okami are my favourite games.

I will be getting Okamiden on Monday and I will spend all day with it.

oneangle4786d ago

Hurts to see Okami on that list. Makes me wonder if we'll ever see anything like it again. Only thing I can hope for is a Move port.

Seferoth754786d ago

Sequel is on DS atm. Cant see it going to Move when HD development has killed enough companies and PS3 gamers are not exactly known for supporting games like this. After all it was the PS2 copy that completely bombed. Wii version outsold it with a much smaller install base.

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai8h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken7h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye6h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken4h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno2h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop1h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger2h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer1h ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz14955m ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

Profchaos22m ago(Edited 20m ago)

The ps5 version doesn't change a ton but from my small playtime it's enough to make me want to replay it just to have it running at 60.

A side note to this my PS4 version no longer boots after it's "update" so I guess that's what it feels like to own a Bethesda game on PC

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Ra30301h ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.

Sciurus_vulgaris26m ago

The Locust trilogy concluded with Gears of War 3. I don’t get how Gears 4 and 5 are “woke” .

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Honkai Star Rail's Revival Tendencies Take Away the Seriousness of Character Deaths

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