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Kinect IS a new console - you better believe it

Dualshockers: When Microsoft first announced Kinect as Project Natal then one of the phrases that they threw around was that they were treating it like the launch of a new console. At the time I thought they were just being silly, as if releasing a peripheral is anything like a new console launch -ridiculous! Since that statement Microsoft have confirmed their exact stance on Kinect at E3 2010 along with the pricing structure for the device. Now that we know that Kinect is $150 and is only compatible with Kinect games then any potential customers should take Microsofts words seriously because you might as well be buying a completely separate console.

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Hyrius5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

I don't believe it. :)

@ Games4M - Rob : XD

Nicaragua5028d ago

I want to believe

The truth is out there…

Cloudberry5028d ago

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I thought it was a Naruto's referencedattebayo.

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Lightsaber5028d ago

if it was a new console it work with out a 360 but it doesnt so its not its just a crappy add on.

D4RkNIKON5028d ago

lol "The truth is out there"

Kinect is a new console LOL!
http://playstationeu.i.lith...

Genesis55028d ago

Looks like a camera. Consoles are bigger.

karl5028d ago

more like.. believe and then PAY

pustulio5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

"Kinect IS a new console."

lolololololololololololololol

R u St00p3d or what? at most is a new camera.

nickjkl5028d ago

look here people the first console without any processing power

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Inside_out5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

M$ Kinect is a terrific device designed to expand the xbox 360's core audience and bring in some of the casual gamers that have made the Wii the top selling console this gen. In that respect, Kinect will be a huge success for M$.

Comparing M$ Xbox 360/Kinect to Sega is like comparing apple's and oranges, but the clown fanboy who wrote this piece knows that. M$ has 40+ million consoles...25 million of which are on XBL. Kinect will be the only game in town come this holiday season. It is priced right and will offer the casual market the best deal out there.

As for the hardcore 360 gamer...well, Halo reach releases in 5 weeks, fable 3 is out this year in October followed by 3 huge multi-player FPS's, MOH, Crysis and COD Black ops. All Multi-plats on 360 outsell there counter parts on PS3 by the millions. WHY...they look and play better on 360...plain and simple.

M$ has all the bases covered. What has Sony to offer...$399 bundle...lol...LBP 2.0 and a car sim. $4000 3D TV and $150 glasses. Sony has already given up this year.

@ DARkNimrod...looks like you were tagged outside the Best Buy in this video talking like all PS3 kids....LMFAO.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here's the hot seller for Sony this holiday...Hope it comes with the $399 bundle.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

-Alpha5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

First, Kinect is not a game. Stop calling it that.

Those multiplats do not "look" better on the 360, and even if they did not noticeably. Yes they outsell "by the millions" but that's because they sell by the millions. The difference doesn't matter, they are still multiplat titles that any PS3 owner can still enjoy. Selling more on the 360 doesn't hurt PS3 owners, except maybe fanboys who hold invisible stock. You'd be better off bragging about the exclusive DLC.

I will not be surprised if Kinect sells well but it's funny that defenders of Kinect (not that it's wrong to defend the product for what it is) don't personally seem to want it or even anticipate it as core gamers themselves. It goes to show that the core fans don't care for it for themselves.

So it's not as much a "revolution" in gaming like originally revealed, and though it still seems to promise something, that hope is rigorously met with some healthy skepticism.

I wont be surprised if Kinect does do well with casuals, but it's met with some equal skepticism. But personally, I do not care for it and I believe many others sincerely don't either. Even my hardcore 360/Halo friends called it a waste of time and an EyeToy. The hardcore already don't care for motion control and Kinect is the definition of that.

DigitalRaptor5027d ago (Edited 5027d ago )

Don't waste your time on him. He's beyond hope.

Kinect was never going to be a "revolution" in gaming. Its limitations speak for themselves. It can never be serious contender against REAL games.

And if Cez truly cared about the system he supports he would be against the idea of Kinect and the overly casual focus MS is giving it. It's a total waste of resources that would be better spent aquiring talent and producing amazing games for the industry and loyal gamers who have supported their system since the beginning.

I mean what does MS have lined up for 2011? Gears of War 3, and that Kingdoms game.

Hitman07695028d ago

Kinect, Kinect... How bad will you fail?

Nicaragua5028d ago

Good comparison to the Mega-CD because that is exactly how I see Kinect – an overpriced gimmick that not only adds nothing to the gaming experience but actually take something away with its lack of accuracy and tactile feedback.

Ebay is gonna be chock full of these things by this time next year.

Motion5028d ago

Lol, Gamestop is going to have to open a new chain just to sell pre-owned Kinects.

DigitalRaptor5027d ago

Hopefully people see the light before MS makes a killing.

DelbertGrady5028d ago

"About the Author: Rob is our resident UK based contributor who has been gaming for the last 30 years. Favourite games are online, team based, third person shooters like MGO and SOCOM but he also loves a game with a good story. Self confessed trophy whore."

Writing for Dualshockers.com

I'm really surprised that he doesn't like Kinect. Really.

Games4M - Rob5028d ago

Wow, your a detective genius. You managed to go all the way to my website and find out this top secret information you should get a starring role in the next Alpha Protocol game.

Of course you completely overlooked the fact that i dont mention my own personal opinion on Kinect other than my thoughts that it will fail based on the perfectly logical reasoning i put in the article.

I actually did a bit of digging of my own and uncovered your bio - "Soda Popinsky: medicore whining tool with an opinion nobody cares about, hence his 1 bubble."

Interesting stuff.

IdleLeeSiuLung5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

LOL, perfect reasoning... really? Your reasoning is perfect?

All I need to say is: when the iPhone came out, everybody thought it was over priced. We all know how that went!

My reason for Kinect will sell

a) amazon.com pre-orders have been strong 3-4 months in advance despite the price. MS already did the price tasting, that is probably why several e-tailers listed it early at the $150 tag. Yet it sold well...

b) people other than the n4g.com crowd (that you cater to) everyone seem to enjoy it.

Here are plenty of people enjoying Kinect: http://www.kinect.me/

Kinect is not aimed at hardcore gamers. Ask the casual gamers, as they seem to love it.

"Compare this to the Wii which uses the Wiimote in every game or the Playstation Move which is an option for pre-existing (and upcoming) games. Anyone who buys a Wii has everything they need for playing Wii games, anyone who buys Move very likely already own one of the many titles that will be enabled with Move such as Heavy Rain, Resident Evil 5, or upcoming blockbuster titles like Killzone 3."

My question to you then becomes, if current games work great the way they are, why would I want an alternative control scheme, pay extra and potential experience sub-par experience? After all, I'm used to using my controller for most games I currently play....

To me you sound like a fanboy praising Sony, yet bashing MS.

Your profile is interesting stuff indeed.

Games4M - Rob5028d ago (Edited 5028d ago )

I didnt say my reasoning was perfect as though i am some sort of ultimate being, i said it was perfectly logical as in it is not illogical. Whether you agree with the reasoning is your own choice but it is there nonetheless. Your own reasons for why Kinect will suceed are also perfectly logical - its simply a difference of opinion.

As for your question about why use an alternate control scheme then the answer is that in most cases it simply works better. Anyone who has played resident evil 4 of the Wii knows that using the wii-mote to aim is incrediably accurate and intuitive so using that same method of control in games like SOCOM 4, Killzone 3 and Resi 5 is a natural progression. If your happy using your pad then thats fine because that option is there but for people like me who want to then there is the option of using Move.

How many Kinect games can you play using the pad you love so much ?

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Poseidon5028d ago

why is it always trophy whore not trophy tramp, trophy slut?

XactGamer5028d ago

^^^ fanboy fight and I mean "all" of the above.

Bedrockk5028d ago

i agree w/ Rob's article - i think kinect is going to be a FAIL. its technology just doesn't seem responsive enough. i'm on the fence until i see a GOOD lightsaber or fighting game.

iiprotocolii5028d ago

After getting hands-on with connect, I must say that it isn't what some folks are making it out to be. Response? It's not 1:1, which kind of takes away from a fluid experience. Before I even consider getting the Kinect, Microsoft needs to showcase a game that I, as a *gamer* and not a casual plebeian, am attracted to. They have some nifty applications that will definitely grab the attention of the less-than-casual crowd, but nothing that gamers will deem purchase worthy.

Alos885028d ago

Title might as well be Kinect IS a new console- deal with it.
In fact, that should be the new slogan for Kinnect- deal with it.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan4d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning774d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast4d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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