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Penello on Kinect: We don’t want “shovelware”

VG247 writes: Albert Penello, director of platform marketing for Xbox, has said Microsoft doesn’t want Kinect games to be “shovelware.”

dangert125059d ago

did he not attend E3 ? but hey one mans rubish is a next mans gold or somthing like that its a good attitude to have anyway only the best

GWAVE5059d ago

It doesn't matter what he wants. Xbox brand execs have been dropping like flies, so if Microsoft doesn't agree with what you want, they'll just bring in someone new.

But Kinect's performance at E3 definitely showed Microsoft's focus, from what they said to the games they demoed. It's casual. Sorry, Natal supporters, but thems the breaks.

Anarki5059d ago

Yeah they do, since when did Microsoft care about their consumer? They'd jump at the chance of anything that'll make them some cash.

AAACE55059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

This won't end well!

@dangert12... It seems like everytime I see you on a 360 post, you are making a negative comment! Be careful man... your fanboy is starting to show... zip that up!

@Chaos69 1.2... The strange thing is, they bash everything for the 360 and the majority of the stuff they bash ends up selling well! They bashed Halo, Gears, and several other things 360 related, and the majority of it sold pretty well. I don't believe them. I think they work for MS and are trying reverse psychology on us! lol!

HolyOrangeCows5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

We saw about 3 different dance games preped for launch and about 4 fitness games preped for launch.

The shovelware has already begun.

Chaos695059d ago

You PS3 fanboys seem to care more about Kinect than X360 owners.

Microsoft Xbox 3605059d ago

You 360 fanboys seem to avoid Kinect threads/articles after the fail seen at E3. What happened pre-E3? You guys were touting Natal as some kind of revolutionary step in gaming. You can't expect PS3 fanboys to forget about that hilarious claim so quickly.

maddhatter1235059d ago

run your mouth get owned and then play the victim that is all these 360 clowns do they're a joke.

beans5059d ago

How are we playing the victim and getting owned when you want to be gamers are still stuck in 3rd place trying to claim victory lol. Those natal people are still around but now instead of talking trash like you guys will sit here and watch it destroy PS3 and gain market share on Wii. You can hate all day on Kinect but the fact remains there are still many unanswered questions and plenty of time to show something for it's core. Funny how you guys talk so much crap and then when proven wrong pretend you never said anything. The only people getting owned here are PS3 fanboys who think Japan=the world. This holiday prepare for a wake up call as all eyes are turned towards 360. :(

tinybigman5059d ago

thats what you already have on your system with the crap you showed at E3.
expect more people thats all i have to say.

LetsTorque5059d ago

Now here's the difference between Sony and Microsoft... when Sony says they dont want shovelware on Move, they not only mean it, they prove it! But when Microsoft says they dont want shovelware on Natal, they not only contradict themselves, they lose credibility!
Another thing Microsoft says are the words "Exclusive", now this word has been flung around by MS constantly! They said exclusive content (GTA) which is not even exclusive because it is on Sony's system; they say exclusive Netflix... which is on now on Sony's system, im not going to waste my time by listing all things MS, because its just not worth it, but I've learnt over the past years, MS is willing to con consumers into buying there system.
BTW I'm not saying Sony has not said anything that they haven't kept to, but what I can say, is that Sony has more credibility in my eyes than Microsoft ever had.

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Omega45059d ago

It will be a lot harder for shovelware to made for Kinect considering every game will have to be made differently to use Kinect, so most if not all the games will be unique.

Plus MS doesn't have to worry about ports either unlike Sony, and all the good Wii games come from Nintendo mostly, so all Move will get is the third party shovelware.

Pedobear Rocks5059d ago

I just showed you (above) Deca Sports ie 3rd party Wii shovelware is one of the first games coming to Kinect.

TotalPS3Fanboy5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

have exercised his right to ignore and deny reality.

mrv3215059d ago

Shovelware on a 360... this isn't new, indie games and marketplace is full of it.

You do realise Move is not a Wii Controller right? And infact uses a camera... like Kinect.

What Kinect will get is a lot of shovelware eyetoy games.

NYC_Gamer5059d ago

kinect launch software=shovelware

rekof5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

The problem is ,.. That is all Kinect is capable of doing ,..
except that fitness apps,.. ( that is great for exercising programs ,.. if it works )

So the statement is illogical in its structure,..
Or they don't want software for it,..

sad

Michael-Jackson5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

"Shovelware" is a game targeted for Casuals ONLY with generic characters, average graphics, low budget, shallow gameplay and no storyline. That's all Kinect has at the moment!!! u understand???

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tinybigman5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

hey O you must've missed the part of the presser or the rest of E3 where it was said most hardcore games will also support move like say Socom4, RE5, KZ3, HR, LBP2 huh?

wake up from your dream world and join us here in the land of the real world please.

n4gno5059d ago

He's not the only one, but him can read and comment all the news (with biased mind, but it's hard to cure 4 years of brainwashing medias), some others xbox fans in denial prefer to ignore facts (sells ps3>xbox, better exclusives on ps3, move is the best motion controler for now, people are interested by 3D, etc)

Qui-Gon Jim5059d ago (Edited 5059d ago )

"You can't reason somebody out of something they haven't been reasoned into."
(unfortunately, I don't know who said it)

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka3d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow13d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv727d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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