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Natal’s River Rush Screenshot Is Real-Time

Judging by the screenshot, the game looks really, really good compared to previous Natal game Ricochet. Turn 10 community manager, Che Chou, confirmed that the screenshot is indeed real-time and not CG, also informs that the game has really good graphics, especially the water effects. Expect a full information blow out tonight regarding Microsoft’s Project Natal.

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Cajun Chicken5076d ago

And I should be surprised...because?

mrv3215076d ago

It's a Natal game that doesn't have a red ball... isn't that enough for you? Mind you that raft is red.

Not that good graphics, especially considering the genre, and yes the genre matter for example RTS's look bad, Racers have great graphics because you only have to load a track and not a level.

SOAD5076d ago

I think the screenshot looks great. I just don't understand how the player is going to use Natal to play the game.

jack_burt0n5076d ago

@SOAD

You and the other players have to move around the raft to steer it and keep it balanced, you all have to jump in unison to jump over branches and stuff.

Iamback5076d ago

Lol why would that be CG, its not like it looks THAT good ROFL

ColdFire5076d ago

RTS doesn't have to look bad, what are you basing that on?

Triella5076d ago

of this video are River Rush's gameplay, apparently you need to jump when necessary.

webeblazing5076d ago

triella imma have to keep that vid for when i need a laugh

D4RkNIKON5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Gameplay of jumprope. confirmed.

mrv3215076d ago

RTS's look bad because your controlling a large amount of units on a large map that CANNOT be streamed. Here's my example

ANY FPS running on a PC.. so long as it's recent and not poorly coded VS any other RTS on the same PC.

I love RTS's don't get me wrong, great depth BUT they are large battles and the second you zoom in close you notice the animations which are to say the least lacking, then the detail also really low compared to other genres, not due to a developer but because that's what's needed. I'd rather a fluid and fun RTS like C&C:TS other a RTS with crysis engine running poorly.

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HolyOrangeCows5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

1) It's a small image.
2) The supposed claim by the Turn 10 community manager is lacking a source.

That's GamesThirst for ya.

EDIT: It got approved of anyway. Good job, guys. Pfft.

Nike5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

I don't know why they didn't include the GAF post as the source (it still would have been classified as a Rumour) in the actual news article. My only guess is that he was afraid we'd mark at as "Wrong Source" and report it. Next best thing: Hide it altogether and no one will be the wiser.

Which is funny because if he simply reported it as being from NeoGAF and put it under Rumours, he wouldn't have had so many reports. :P

@Gaystation 3: Wait, dev comments on forums still qualify as legitimate news posts (even if they're rumours). So this can still be reported as the wrong source.

Gaystation 35076d ago

It wasn't hard to find. I saw Che post this earlier today on NeoGAF http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

HolyOrangeCows5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

I trust Turn 10 staff as far as I can throw them. Did he have anything to do with the creation of this game or has he played it? (I'm asking)
EDIT: I just checked, he never answers anyone's questions about playing it.

But still, more importantly, it's a tiny image.
What can we really get out of it?

Gaystation 35076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

I think he's just played it. His comment did not reveal much, just that the screenshot was real and had very good water effects.

@Nike

I would suggest contacting Catastrophe and asking her to edit the story.

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Godmars2905076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

The one they show before the dancing family. Why not just show - and release that?

Also, thought the question wasn't weather or not Natl games would deliver decent graphics, but weather or not they could deliver graphics on equal to high-end 360-only titles? That you'll even see hardcore games on it at all.

For which a rafting doesn't qualify.

air15076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

why do you always feel so threatened by natal?

what part of we will still have hardcore games dont you get? if fun family games dont interest you then fine i understand that you have to be 100% hardcore at all times, you will still have that choice. but why try so hard to ruin it for ppl that wouldnt mind giving it a shot?

and why does everything have to be some conspiracy theory with you? they dont want to show it cause they want to do it at E3, do you not get it?

Godmars2905076d ago

I only asked why there's an article about a screen shot when there's video. Also why the same people into Halo and MW getting wet over a family game.

You'd think a Halo or MW type game using Natal would do that.

air15076d ago

we both know that you are stealth trolling, so lets not get all " but all i said was...." on me.... flip flopping will not work.

ppl are interested in the damn game, plain and simple. again, i can understand that you can not put your hardcorness to the side for a few, but why constantly try and ruin it for every one? dont make me post up your history with my last bubble. the images look great it looks good enough for a "fun family" game. just so you know i enjoyed many games over the years that didnt have the best graphics.

IdleLeeSiuLung5076d ago

"dont make me post up your history with my last bubble. the images look great it looks good enough for a "fun family" game. just so you know i enjoyed many games over the years that didnt have the best graphics."

Doesn't what you already said speak for itself? Just leave him alone to hate!

air15076d ago

yea, but someone had to sit him down... kid was on a rampage, lol...

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PoSTedUP5076d ago

jumping? now thats to much "gaming" for me lol i am a lazy sack, i hardly want to stand up for psMOVE let a lone jump up and rattle my weak wooden floors which is attached to my house (having more then one person jumping up at the same time would make too much rukkus and knock over china cabinets lol)

i was hoping i would only have to grab fruits off of the tree branches with my arms and maybe legs or something, that as far as i will go. this sounds like a console that is made to be played outdoors. good luck with that MS.

PCnPS3Gamer5076d ago

imo this game does look cool an the graphics are decent and if i was a casual id be all over this....but like seriously guys natal is so casual its not even funny. like the wii is even more hardcore....I'll always go back to my dual shock 3 but im not gunna lie its nice to play wii with your parents...tried getting my dad to play a game with ds3 and he couldnt figure out how to look around and walk at the same time with the joysticks....so if i got move i could bring it down with me and we could play golf and pool etc....you can hate on motion gaming all you want but it does have upsides...i dont prefer the move over natal or wii cause sony made it i prefer it cause it has buttons similar to the wii but way better. and i liked the wii, so im gunna love move. how many people with bad knees arent gunna be able to play natal i like to see a senior citizen jump for this raft game yeah right.

ms you should've took a hit when nintendo and sony past off on this tech 149 price tag say hi. also theres a reason sony didnt push the eyetoy as a new incredible innovation like what ms is doing cause they dont spread lies lol :p

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DelbertGrady5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Nice to see some confirmation that Natal games won't have to sacrifice the graphics at the expense of motion controls. The game is probably part of some kind of party pack that will come bundled with the console. Not my cup of tea so I'm hoping they show something more hardcore as well.

@Cajun Chicken - Because there's been lots of talk about Natal stealing processing power leading to an eventual compromise in the visual department. Now we at least know that pretty graphics like the ones in the screenshot will be possible.

Wow! 3 disagrees in 3 minutes. I bet you bubbled me down just for the sake of it also. :) *waves to stalkers*

edit: 5 disagrees in 6 minutes. New personal best lol. I don't see what's so offensive with my comment?

FangBlade5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Because your wrong, baka.
How can you say something stupid like "Nice to see some confirmation that Natal games won't have to sacrifice the graphics at the expense of motion controls" when it's been confirmed by many that natal is going to use 10~30% of the Xbox 360's Xenon processor.

fail.

Bluemaster775076d ago

last i check the 360 has an competent GPU that handles all of its Graphics so that theoretical 10-30% you mentioned would be irrelevant

rob60215076d ago

I would be more worried about the budget developers will put into Natal games, considering the small user base. Cause turn 10 has a game that looks ok, doesn't mean everyone else does.

iliimaster5076d ago

whats a bubble down? serious question

candystop5076d ago

N4G works on a bubbles system. We are able to press the green button to help give a person more bubbles or press the red bubble to take away comment bubbles. SO basically if your losing bubbles it's because people want to silence you.

Inside_out5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Hey Soda...saw the vid the other day...while all the PS3 kids were making fun of the reporter and his family having good time with Ricochet, you could clearly see the river rafting game running in the background with outstanding graphics. Unreal engine 3 is powering many of the apps we will see. Expect alot more. I think arcade games like Trial HD will offer a glimpse of what we can expect on Natal...ENJOY...The power of the 360...love this trailer...

webeblazing5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

wait are you saying trail hd is 4 natal and that psn dont have good looking games

Corepred45076d ago

really. really? really! really? outstanding graphics? lol give it a break man. i wonder if your trolling or is this really how you feel about it. i really hope your not that blind because some of your comments i think would make even MS laugh at you.

candystop5076d ago

Wait a sec webeblazing! Who the heck said anything about PSN? Why are you bringing up PS in 360 news anyway? I want to see some good stuff from Sony Tuesday but I see no reason to bring it up here. Right now nobody cares about Playstation because this isn't the place for it! Get it? Got it? Good!

webeblazing5076d ago

hey im trying to figure out what he saying the graphic in the game looks like any other arcade game. and this is the first time i herd about trails hd gonna be for natal and he says its the power of 360 do you even read what people write

n4gno5076d ago

"the power of the 360"

lol, sure, it's better than wii.

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Shaman5076d ago

@FangBlade
That mere 15% of xcpu is nothing,todays games are gpu bound,not cpu and since from cpu you can always get more performance with careful optimizing and proper planing same cant be applied on gpu,they have fixed functions.Anyway...IF MS wants Natal games to look something ala RE5 or Gears of War 2 they can make it with not much problems,only thing that remains is,is that needed for casuals?

TotalPS3Fanboy5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

it will be sacraficing gameplay. This game all on rail. You have no control at all. It's all QTE. You watch a video of your boat going down a river, and duck when there's a branch and jump when there's a rock. That's all.

That may be fun for the first 5 minutes. But it quickly wears off. To be successful, Natal needs to integrate into real games. Hardcore games that players will play for hours.

bobdog6265076d ago

But if Natal has Hand Gesture Controls like i think they do .Its a Rap ,Sonys Move won't stand a Chance against that.

jerethdagryphon5076d ago

precisly,

that said, natals technolagy as it is is not suited for fps or tps which is the priome market of the 360,

simply put unless it has a list of motions that are valid for control,

there wont be animations to support the wide variety of actions people will use in a shooter.

movement will have to be either walking in place or whatever but at any rate icant see someone doing arobic excercise for hours after work.

on rails or limited motions like racing yes even scaking ican see working but the main games no nochance.

in order for it to work on a hard core game there would have to be next to no animations for combat and use live mapping (aka mocap tracking) to handle any odd movements

meaning it has to be able to do anything, from a guy picking up 2 guns in a game meant for one to spary and praying over the top of a baracade, add into that a physix system capable of dealing with multiple collisions and it starts to get out of hand.

natal will be extremly difficult to implement for mainstream games,

only rickochet has shown the any motion stuff and thats just eye toy tech with deapth..

i will how ever wait to judge until a final product is released

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Nike5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

I checked the site, and even scoured the web looking for where the comm manager of Turn 10 said this. Came up with nothing. GamesThirst has no source on their site, no quotes, no videos, nothing to prove they spoke to him exclusively. For all you know they're just making this up to get hits, and it's sad because it looks like it'll hit front page anyway at this rate.

Hallmark Moment5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

It's a -alaa- article he just threw it together to get people to flame. His goal is what you see in the first 3 comments.

-alaa- is actually one of the biggest anti Natal members on this site he's sneaky about it. Looks kind of cool for a XBLA game.

EDIT Below

WTF?

Anyways you can tell it's about that time.

LtSkittles5076d ago

Alaa didn't do it unless Alaa is N4PS3G.

LtSkittles5076d ago

N4PS3G always submits crap from Fernando who is a writer on on GT

ThatCanadianGuy5076d ago

"Writer" is being a bit generous no? Fanboy blogger, at best.

jack_burt0n5076d ago

I am not posting the vid but there is already footage of the game available.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest6d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN6d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan6d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor5d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic5d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv725d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares6d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv726d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka6d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion6d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer6d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow16d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer6d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar6d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn6d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18816d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast6d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning776d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning776d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning776d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast6d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning776d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast5d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv726d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes6d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7210d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199210d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218310d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit10d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier10d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan9d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-10d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead10d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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