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Microsoft ads imply Xbox is losing to PS4 ... but at least they're still fighting

The first Rocky film introduced us to a fighter who no one thought could succeed. It's the ultimate underdog story, and it's interesting how many people forget that Rocky lost in the first film. - Ben Kuchera, Polygon

Catoplepas3565d ago

The difference being that you actually rooted for Rocky Balboa.......

ethomaz3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

Well Kuchera is rooting for MS :D

MightyNoX3565d ago

The article also seems to resign that the Xbox is losing, which is a HUGE shock for me considering Kuchera wrote it.

He's been blasting about how "Dear sony, you're number one but Xbox is coming for you" and now this? *whiplash*

darthv723565d ago

So would this be like Rocky 3 then? Rocky lost to Clubber Lang but then came back at the end to win.

Is that what this implies? If so then who is going to be the Apollo Creed to help motivate MS to get that eye of the tiger?

ethomaz3565d ago

@MightyNoX

That is why I laugh reading the article... he get something bad and make it looks good. It is like... hey guys MS is losing but it is all good.

The article is all positive.

MightyNoX3565d ago

@ethomaz: So basically he's being all IGN "Don't look deeply into it."

Oh, now I get it. :P

denawayne3565d ago

Losing to a competitor and losing financially are two very different things. Once there are some must have exclusives for Xbox One, the Xbox brand will be fine.

Mr Pumblechook3565d ago

This is why Polygon's relationship with Microsoft needs to be investigated:

He takes bad MS news and tries to sell to readers that MS is the underdog and you should root for them. BBC journalists are banned from showing personal bias.

Pogmathoin3565d ago

This does nothing other than remind me that the Rocky movies were crap....

MysticStrummer3565d ago

@denawayne - "Losing to a competitor and losing financially are two very different things."

http://n4g.com/news/1563679...

SilentNegotiator3565d ago

"This is why Polygon's relationship with Microsoft needs to be investigated"

No need. It's a fact that MS funded Polygon's creation.

UltimateMaster3565d ago

Adds have virtually no effect on their fanbase.
If people were to purchase an Xbox One over a PS4, they would have done so with the arrival of Titanfall and that publicity blitz.

Bzone243565d ago

@MysticStrummer

Where in the article you linked does it say they are losing financially?

ThanatosDMC3565d ago

What surprises me more is i thought we got rid of Polygon from N4G since they were spouting so much rubbish but now they're back on n4g. Wonder what happened.

bandit9053564d ago

@Darthv72
the cloud that's whos gonna be the eye of the tiger lol

ZombieKiller3564d ago (Edited 3564d ago )

XBOX dONE.

Let's hope not though, Sony needs some good competition. We as the gamers, keep gaining the benefit by these companies going neck in neck with each other. Plus, I like my 360 if not for it being a MS branded item.....greedy bastards.

@Superman below me: Dude rooting for the xbox won't help, it's buying it that would, and no thank you. I refuse to support a company that won't support my gaming habits the way I want. It's not the system that sucks, it's the manufacturer.

morganfell3564d ago

Kuchera is unable to grasp that movies are not reality. Now in his desperation he has taken to hoping for a fairy tale ending (from his point of view. I think of it as a horror flick). I missed the first part of the Rocky story, Rocky the Thug where he extorts money from people and robs them of their rights.

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iamnsuperman3565d ago

Why not root for the Xbox. It isn't a bad system.

darthv723565d ago

The disagrees feel differently but yeah...it's not a bad system. Just the management of it is questionable.

fr0sty3565d ago

It wouldn't be a bad system if it weren't for the company running it. Their insistence of putting things behind a paywall that have no business being there (though they have improved in that respect, still a long way to go), their insistence on charging the same or more for weaker hardware, their lack of dedicated first party support and heavily reliance on third party (which is biting them in the ass now, since many of their exclusives are now coming to other platforms), their attempts to shove DRM down our throats which they are still trying to pull off by making people think that a game needs internet connectivity for "cloud powah!"... I could go on and on about all their fumbles, but you get the point.

I really think the Xbox brand would function better under a new company. It has the name recognition needed to succeed. The only reason it isn't is Microsoft. They won't let it.

AngelicIceDiamond3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

No, no its not.

Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC Ori And The Blind Forest and possibly even Forza Horizon 2 for me this year.

Quantum Break, Fable Legends, Halo 5 next year. Hopefully Crack Down 3 and my all time most anticipated game Phantom Dust next year (again hopefully).

Yep its a terrible console.

Disagree and cry all you want I'll be having fun and that's all that matters.

I own the console so all the negativity should concern the ones you know, the ones who bought it.

donthate3565d ago

frost:

I find it interesting that you don't have the same comment for your favorite console, PS4. I mean, after the recent denying EA Access debacle, and marketing shenanigans at Sony, I would think Sony's management isn't in the best interest for the players.

I think the article is right, in the history of gaming there has never been another console manufacturer that has been so willing to react so fast to any changes the public wants (even if that is comes from mis-information). I think this is a real testament to management in Xbox division.

700p3565d ago

Xbox is a great console. Constant updates and plenty of games/exclusives coming during the holidays. :)

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Abash3565d ago

Yeah, Microsoft has no one to blame but themselves for their sales situation with the Xbox One. I do have to say though that the PS4 is a hard product to compete with, even if the Xbox One launched at $400

bleedsoe9mm3565d ago

anyone rooting for sony to have a monopoly is rooting against there own interest

johndoe112113565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

No one is rooting for sony to have a monopoly, they're just rooting for microsoft to go to hell. If you don't get that by now then you haven't been listening to or understanding the gaming community for the past year and a half.

bleedsoe9mm3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

@johndoe11211 yes allot of people on n4g are rooting for a sony monopoly , its myopic not to remember how sony got to the place they are today policy put in place to combat bad policies from 7 years ago . ms has gone back on every bad policy that people didn't like , and people that should know better still are holding a grudge .

@MysticStrummer until devs start making multiplats for wiiu or steam boxes gain more ground in the living room , sony would have the market all to themselves .

MysticStrummer3565d ago

If MS left the console business entirely Sony still wouldn't have a monopoly.

Major_Glitch3565d ago

@bleed go ahead and quote one person that actually said they want a Sony monopoly. Go ahead I'll wait.
OT: The PS4 is beating the xbone and it's beating it hard. Fact. End of story. And you know who's to blame for the xbone's horrible start this gen? MS. Fact. End of story. You ms fanboys just need to face facts. The people have spoken with their wallets, and they've overwhelming chosen the PS4.

iceman063565d ago

I could counter that with anyone rooting for MS to succeed while doing what they were doing is rooting against their own interests. That's why voices raised up. That's why changes were made. That's why MS is far less arrogant today than a year ago. This ad proves it. When was the last time that MS admitted to losing a fight? In the end, there wouldn't be a Sony monopoly. There are MANY companies chomping at the bit to get into the console space. But, most people don't see room for them to grow now. If MS left, not saying that they should or would, the others would step right in and compete. That's basically how MS got here in the first place. They stepped in when Sega dropped out.

BX813565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

If ms left the industry we would be fu$ked into a corner. Ask your self where psn would be right now if xbl didn't set a standard. All they would have to do is be a little better than nintendo's online setup, and let's just say it ain't the best. The same goes if Sony wasn't here, ms wouldn't be where it's at. Like it or not your favorite company is where it's at because of competition. Take that away and let the regressing commence.
@ iceman
Now that the changes are made move along. No point in beating a dead horse. I'm not saying walk blindly believing everything or forget but damn give credit to those who are making it right.

gootimes3564d ago (Edited 3564d ago )

^
Every company that entered the console business brought something great to the table and helped move the industry forward, even if they didn't last. If Micro leaves there will be another great company to enter and do their own thing to help shape the industry...

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Aceman183565d ago

Man this guy Ben has some serious mommy/daddy issues lol. All he ever does us whine about Sony this Sony that, and how MS is for the people blah, blah, blah lol.

He's truly a sad individual lol.

headblackman3565d ago

im rooting for microsoft and the xbox one and im sure there are many do the same.

im a proud xbox one owner. wouldn't change it for nothing!

Jonny5isalive3564d ago (Edited 3564d ago )

Anyone who thought the ps4 would not dominate even before last year was cluless. After the reveal of the systems It was beyond obvious that my prediction would come true.

MS just has no chance in the world. Xbox will be remembered for helping to bring more PC games to consoles and console games to PC. Only the xbox will be gone and it will be PC, PS and nintendo. Unless MS wants to continue to try and support a console that will make them no money, and has no hopes to having a successful followup console. ALl ground they gained with 360, completely lost long before the XB1 launched. Xbox got soft, xbox got dropped... off a cliff onto spikes.

edit-- ok so I exaggerated a bit, but I had a feeling PS would rise to the top this gen. NIntendo had no chance to win again with an underpowered console. Their hopes to get more 3rd party titles with go out the window for good once support for ps3/360 dries up. Xbox well, Ive felt for a long time they could have kept bungie and let them work on destiny, im guessing tehy wanted them to make halo. Kinnect was a good seller for a year or 2 but sucked after taht and never had any good games. Xbox bosses of all people couldnt even figure out to make a kinnect game with a gun that you hide behind cover in your living room. THen they talk about getting more exclusives after letting theri best developer make their new game on their competitors more powerful console with year DLC. But their biggest mistake was not using their money to make a console that sony COULDT financially build on a spec level. These APUs are CHEAP AS DIRT and in 2 years these console will be alot cheaper to produce. They could have gotten more sales if they invested in a more powerful console.

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k2d3564d ago

Polygon - fortelling the Return of The king, or singing Xb's swan song?

DOOMZ3564d ago

I'm rooting for XBOX! I hope all game companies do well... In the end, us gamers WIN!!!

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Tony-A3565d ago

From the article:

"It's interesting that Microsoft is willing to more or less state that it's in the No. 2 spot, but that it's going to keep fighting."

But it's not No. 2. It's actually No. 3.

I'm not saying it's going to end this generation in last place, but I don't like how Nintendo is ignored every generation during sales talk (even though it's mostly their fault). They frickin won last generation! Obviously speaking sales talk here and not quantity of great games ", although there were some.

With a sudden strong showing from Nintendo lately, Microsoft needs to get over the first hill before climbing the mountain. It's pretty clear that there is a very large gap growing between the PS4 and the other two; the other two are actually closer in weekly, monthly and cumulative sales.

I feel like no matter how well Nintendo does, it's always PS vs Xbox.

UnHoly_One3565d ago

These companies make more money off the games they sell for their consoles than they do off selling the actual consoles.

Nintendo may have sold the most consoles, but they didn't sell jack squat for games compared to Sony and MS.

That is why they aren't really mentioned. Well that, and the fact that they are kind of off in their own little world with a slightly different product.

They really aren't competing directly with Sony and MS.

Tedakin3565d ago

Yeah weird right? That's how it was last gen. Wii mopped the floor with 360 and Ps3, yet even then it's like it didn't matter. It was always Sony vs MS. I think cause the power of the Wii systems is always so much less and they don't get the third party support so they're put into their own category.

hkgamer3565d ago

its because of the graphical power of the consoles. its not capable of running the so called games that we like. we as mean people who go on these sites.

last generation was main about cod and also many other big franchises that were multiplat. nintendo didnt have any of these.

@unholy_one
why do you care about which company making more money?

anyway, wii sold the most consoles. made the most money per hardware sold, sold the most peripherals and surprise surprise sold the most retail games.

XiMasterChief3564d ago

The only reason the Wii sold that much is because it was something new in at that time. Also it's Nintendo.

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Kavorklestein3564d ago (Edited 3564d ago )

I have to say, I'm MORE impressed that MS could supposedly "lose billions" with each console that comes out, and STILL not stop trying to bring us entertainment.
If any company doesn't give it their best, then they are the wrong company to support. If you have not other option then yeah, okay... go the way of Sega. They threw in the towel when it was time.

Microsoft? They can keep fighting for a while, the doom and gloom is just part of insecure losers doing what they do best, like they can only feel good if they are putting something/someone else down. I personally am just gonna stay optimistic, and if this continues for another two years, however... Then maybe it will be time to ask question about how successful vs. unsuccessful the Xbox one is.

People are to anxious to have their fanboy wet-dreams come true and look even more foolish than if they said nothing in the first place.

Let's just be patient, and we may all be surprised at what happens. For better OR worse.

danny8183565d ago

Lol thats just ridiculous. Its a motivational speech. Most likely they are inpluing when you are losing a match in multiplayer or in a game. Plus they made more money than playstation lol

UnHoly_One3565d ago

I'm glad somebody else got that.

The speech is literally just speaking to the player about playing games, and has nothing to do with the console itself or any imaginary "winning" or "losing" battle in the "console war".

Stupid article.

danny8183565d ago

Flamebait article and all the ponys are makinh a campfire and dancing around it

ThanatosDMC3565d ago

I thought it was the other way around. It's trying to paint Xbone as the underdog and they one that would dominate in the end. You guys might want to reread it.

It's actually hilarious that y'all are interpreting it as something else. The author is a huge xbox fanboy too. Gotta remove your thick fanboy glasses because that's friendly fire.

UnHoly_One3564d ago

I'm not talking about the stupid article, I'm talking about the ad he wrote the article about.

YOU need to go back and watch that.

Anyone that thinks that ad has anything to do with PS4 and the console wars is outside their mind.

rainslacker3565d ago

I've seen these commercials several times, and not until I read this article had I considered that it was MS saying that they were behind Sony, but they could make a comeback in the end.

Seemed to me to be more about making people feel that they could do anything on the Xbox One, because the speech is targeted at the buyers. Saying, no matter how far the chips are down(in any game you may be playing), you can overcome it...which is the way most games are presented anyhow...overcoming insurmountable odds.

I highly doubt MS would try and play the underdog position this early in the console's life span. It shows a position of weakness, which they never do. They always stress the positive side of their products, no matter how much they may suck, or how poorly they're doing(not saying X1 sucks BTW, but in relation to many of their other products).

danny8183565d ago

Im sure they are happy sales are better than the 360 in closing in on the first year. I just think they feel abit overwhelmed with sony using that as a strong arm on their marketing

Bonkerz3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

The sad thing is, Sony has you guys under them so badly that you cannot see that the X1 has become 100% better than the PS4 all around. Better games, actual AAA exclusives, better network, better apps.. It is crazy, you guy are worse than Apple fanboys. You guys are getting a half baked racing game, and a childs game this year lol.

@Scatpants.. So Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, and the best racing game ever dont beat the worst infamous made, and a childrens game? Driveclub doesnt even count since it doesnt become a full game until 2015, its launching 80% undone.

-Foxtrot3565d ago

The only crazy person here is you

Cryptcuzz3565d ago

That is for damn sure.

Well, people don't call him Bonkerz, for nothing if he wasn't crazy :D

ThanatosDMC3565d ago

Foxtrot, you made me smile and laugh after pos work day. Thank you.

OT: Lol. Nvm. Still funny.

Scatpants3565d ago

Really because the last game I bought for it was Titanfall months ago and there are only 2 exclusives coming up that I want for it.

CervantesPR3565d ago

Ps4 has more retail games and AAA games than xbox one do the math

xDHAV0K24x3565d ago

no denying that. just not for me

stripe8143565d ago

saddest thing is that you yourself cant seem to look the obvious reasons why more 360 users switch jump dive and buy the ps4...

oh i see the bitterness...leave britney alone!!!!! wahaha

SoapShoes3565d ago

Best racing game ever? Forza? lol Forza 5 was the worst in the series so far. How's that N'Ring treating you? Oh wait it's not...

Volkama3565d ago

The track was added in a free update a few months ago (e3 time).

Forza 5 is actually a really good game, if you don't hold forza 4 against it. And considering just about everything in it was built from scratch, it's a little unfair to hold forza 4 against it.

SKnight133565d ago

Wasn't that a free track that was added at E3. Pretty sure it was.

Whirlwind_Fanfare_083565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

@Bonkerz

Wow! you've gone bonkers today!
'better games'
you mean 3rd party games always runs better on PS4.
'actual AAA exclusives'
ryse coming to PC along with DR3, plants vs zombies.
'you guys are getting a half-baked racing game'
hardcopy and PS+edition of driveclub is coming out, and can upgrade to full version of it. Try harder!

DigitalRaptor3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

"Better games"

Nope…. That is 100% opinion, but the majority opinion is that… PS4 has better rated games: http://n4g.com/news/1510473...
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"actual AAA exclusives"

PS4 has more actual exclusives, even if you disregard the indies, games also on PC, and even games that are also on PS3.

Xbone exclusive lineup so far is practically ALL third-party games that are more or less ALL coming to PC or PS4. Many of the games you call "actual exclusives" are also on PC from the very start.
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"better network"

Proof or GTFO. There's literally nothing you can say to prove this, and obviously you're still pretending that PSN is still in 2008 stages.
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"better apps"

It has more apps. And that doesn't matter to any gamer.
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"You guys are getting a half baked racing game, and a childs game this year lol. "

We are getting an arcade racer that is about as complete as ANY arcade racer that has been out in the past decade. Is sad that you resort to downplaying a game that shares the Project Gotham DNA, but if and when that particular Xbox exclusive makes an appearance, you won't be hating on something like that. You're so transparent.

LittleBigPlanet has been a series enjoyed by adults and kids and until the console war got so aggressive that an amazing quality game is actually considered a bad thing because certain bitter individuals consider it a "child's game".

LBP won plenty of GOTY awards in 2008, and that is voted by ADULTS.

No gamer complains about Nintendo's lineup having an AWESOME game like Super Mario 3D World. You can call that a "child's game" if you want… but that was also a GOTY contender last year too. I'm truly sorry that the diversity of a platform offends you.

PlayStation gamers seem to appreciate that which you cannot.
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And yet… those 2 games are not even the end of PS4's lineup for the rest of this year, but you're just another desperate, crazy Xbox fanboy pretending that Sony don't have just as many PS4 "exclusives" as Microsoft has for their Xbone.

KirbysDump3565d ago

stick lbp and uncharted. suckage

Spotie3565d ago

The sad thing is: Microsoft has guys like you so under them you actually believe this nonsense you spew.

rainslacker3565d ago

The worst infamous ever made is still a damn good game. Seems that both companies are about on par with the AAA exclusives, better games is purely subjective, as there is only really one game that interests me on the X1(Quantum Break), whereas Xbox fans may be in the reverse situation, better network...they both perform about the same from what I can tell, better apps....don't care, I play games, not apps.

I also would never consider Forza to be the best racing game ever. Maybe in comparison to Need for Speed(only other racing game available on next gen), but best ever? Really? Even Gran Turismo isn't the best racer ever made, and I absolutely love that game and would choose it over the last Forza any day.

The sad thing is that you will keep holding on to a position that you have because you want it to be true. In some cases, some things you mention may be true for you. In the meantime, the PS4 is selling like crazy, and is the fastest selling console of all time. No matter what you may believe, there are many people who disagree with you, unless you believe that everyone that's purchased a PS4 to date is a rabid fan boy under Sony's magical spell.

Nine_Thousaaandd3565d ago

@Bonkerz

" Better games, actual AAA exclusives, better network, better apps.. It is crazy, you guy are worse than Apple fanboys. You guys are getting a half baked racing game, and a childs game this year lol."

Better games, last I checked...PS4 games ranked higher than X1...and selling better on PS4 as well. AAA exclusives...Sony has more, and not losing their AAA games to PC development. Network is quite even now...I've played on both many times, not much of difference now. Better apps, I'll give that to X1...it's their main focus over gaming...PS4 is gaming first, could care less about apps and ads plastered all over my home screen on PS4.

And a half baked racing game...Forza 5 owns that category.
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Next-gen racing game that comes with less than its predecessor and doesn’t feature things like weather too.

And a child's game this year...drum roll please...introducing?
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Ages 10...GTFO!

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Scatpants3565d ago

It's their own fault for designing a weak system. If their system architects really thought that hitting 1080p wasn't a big deal they should be fired because it has cost Microsoft hundreds of millions in sales.

creatchee3565d ago

The initial price point of $499 brought on by mandatory Kinect, along with DRM confusion is what has cost them sales more than anything.

If Microsoft launched Xbox One as it is available now, 399 without Kinect and 499 with it, no DRM or paywall, etc, the race in North America would have been a massacre in Microsoft's favor. Worldwide obviously would have been a different story, but it would have been a repeat of last gen. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot not with the 180's themselves, but with the fact that they needed to do 180's in the first place. Now, they're lagging behind because a lot of early next-gen adopters went to a PS4 instead of an Xbox One. They're doing better now, but the problems that they had prelaunch, even though they are fixed, continue to haunt them.

TFJWM3565d ago

Umm the only time Xbox ever massacred PS in sales was after the 360 was released till the PS3 was released

MRMagoo1233565d ago

Yes it was a massacre in the US because they had the console out a year before and then Sony still sold more world wide with a year and a half deficit to combat. If that doesn't show you how strong the playstation brand is you are blind.

TLDR MS can't beat Sony no matter what they do.

creatchee3565d ago

In the U.S./N.A. (which I explicitly stated I was talking about) the numbers sold are:

Xbox 360: 47.28 million
PS3: 28.57 million

Is that not a massacre? Also, I simply do not care about worldwide numbers for this argument. I was stating that things would be a lot different on their home turf if they launched with the better price, options, and policies.

rainslacker3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

Massacre may be pushing it unless the power of the system was on par with the PS4. It would have certainly performed better though.

You have to remember, those first few months of sales are predominately informed gamers who are going to choose the system they feel is best for them.

Outside of power and price, the games situation in the first few months was pretty much equal, with MS having a slight edge due to Forza.

You also assume that a console that sells well one gen will do equally as well the next gen. That isn't always the case.

In the end, it's all just a speculation debate. The cards have been dealt, and we can only see what happens from here on out.

Brettman20083565d ago

PS1 and PS2 dominated NA. PS4 is just restoring the natural order in NA.

TFJWM3565d ago

"In the U.S./N.A. (which I explicitly stated I was talking about) the numbers sold are:

Xbox 360: 47.28 million
PS3: 28.57 million "

Adjust for VGchartz over tracking Xbox and under tracking PS and take away that every RROD is included in that

So no it wasn't, xbox won with by nice margin but it was no massacre

Do you also consider the PS4 to be massacring the XBox1 Worldwide now as well?

creatchee3562d ago

@TFJWM

"Adjust for VGchartz over tracking Xbox and under tracking PS and take away that every RROD is included in that"

No. You don't take away any RROD. A bought console is a bought console. If you wreck a car and buy a new one, does that mean that you never bought the first one? Also, as far as I know, replacement consoles from the manufacturer don't count either, so that wouldn't matter. Also, if you could find a more concise total for NA, I'm all ears.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188123h ago(Edited 23h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2313h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos3h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb333h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled19h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies7h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k422h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot21h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon615862h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

RNTody22h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead11h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage5h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast21h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197920h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel12h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage5h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 22h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 13h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 4h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 9h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 4h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow13h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 4h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow14h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney8h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 22h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 22h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 9h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 7h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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