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Sony removes the ability to download previously unsupported PSP/PSone games on Vita

After Monday's PSN update, users were able to download PSone, and PSP games that previously weren't compatible with Vita. It looks like Sony has put a stop to that.

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GeofferyPeterson3686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

Why the hell would they do that!? Just made a burger with their huge Cash Cow. Stupid move

sinncross3686d ago

Perhaps its possible that there is a licensing issue.

it might be similar to the remote play situation on PS3. You could technically remote play a bunch of PS3 games to the PSV but you were not allowed to do that via official channels because the software was not licensed to be streamed to a 2ndary device.

That is what I assume. But I do hope that Sony re-reverses this decision and allows everyone to download these games and for them to be played on their PSV's.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3686d ago

This is exactly why actually. They can suffer legally quite a bit if they left it.

Kingthrash3603686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
i know why but...
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUU!!
my vita just returned its new set of panties...

nypifisel3686d ago

Of course that is the case, not being very well versed in how all that works though it kinda surprises me how all these games always have been available in Europe but not NA.

Eonjay3686d ago

re-reverses

This shall be the word of the day.

ThanatosDMC3686d ago

Sony and their 180s... smh.

Gamer19823685d ago

Well they probably did it because it was a mistake in the first place and they didn't mean to do it. As for licensing if you already own the game there is no licensing issues. They didn't re-sell old games here they re-released older games for download that people had bought in the past and ones that are still available today (with still valid licenses) on PS3. They will no doubt put them back in my mind after an announcement in the future but for now they have removed them until said announcement is made.

fr0sty3685d ago

It could be legal issues, or the fact that the emulator wasn't running properly yet. I heard a lot of reports of framerate stutters and such.

UltimateMaster3685d ago

Just Download it on your PS3 and copy it to your Vita. It's that simple.

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TheGamez1003686d ago

I'm guessing because of hackers being able to exploit more games...otherwise yes, a stupid move.

Goro3686d ago

I doubt Sony give a sh*t about PS1/PSP games being exploited. They were exploited years ago when they released.

kayoss3686d ago

xYakuzaz
Its not the PS1/PSP they are worried about. Its using exploit within the PS1 or PSP games to hack the PS Vita system. This was how the PS Vita was hacked to play PSone all Psone games.

Tony-A3685d ago

I'm sure it was just down to licensing issues, which really really sucks and makes it look like a stupid move on our side. And if there's really no issue involved, then that really would be a stupid move because a lot of people would be using this feature.

I just really hope that they announce why they had to go back on it and apologize because a lot of people were excited about this and to take it out without explanation would come off as somewhat rude.

I just wanna play Crash on my Vita :/

Magicite3686d ago

it just have been some kind of system mistake from the start, we should have known that.

Christopher3686d ago

@Geoffery: It likely has more to do with licensing limitations than anything. They have to pay new licensing fees to allow games onto a new platform.

randomass1713686d ago

Such a shame. :( I hope they reverse this choice as soon as possible.

Joey_Leone3685d ago (Edited 3685d ago )

It was too good to be true. For now.

Mankey3685d ago

Best guess is it's probably a licensing issue. It seems silly but some publishers just don't want to even bother with the Vita.

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SpiralTear3686d ago

Curious what caused it in the first place, but still, that's a bummer they removed that ability.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3686d ago

The update caused a glitch where games 'blocked' from going on vita were unblocked. I.e. seperate lines of code saying 'this can('t)happen' defaulted to 'this can happen'

Easiest way I can explain it. Hopefully it makes sense. Anyone whose dabbled in HTML should understand it. It's like an IF statement.

SpiralTear3686d ago

Ah, gotcha. That makes sense. Appreciate the info.

Still a bummer, though. I guess some folks got to reap the benefits before the fix.

DJ3685d ago

Ohh, makes sense now. Thanks Kenshin

randomass1713685d ago

Yeah, they're the lucky ones lol. I was up and ready to buy a Vita because of this, but sadly I simply don't have the money for it yet.

Soldierone3686d ago

Sucks that we live in a world where everyone goes "give me money!" instead of "sure go ahead, this could benefit the world."

mdluffy3686d ago

Sony would suffer legal issues, not worth it for them.

Soldierone3686d ago

I wasn't blaming Sony, its the publishers that are doing it.

Death3686d ago

What legal issues would Sony suffer allowing Sony published games from the PSP to be played on the Vita? How is it backwards compatability was never a legal issue until this happened?

randomass1713685d ago

@Death

There is a separate license for each playable version of those games. There is a license for the PS3 version, another one for the PSP version and yet another for the Vita version. For the third party developers and publishers involved, if even one of those licenses is sold without their say so, Sony could face a copyright violation lawsuit.

christian hour3685d ago

There's also specific regional licensing laws as well, even though the game has been reviewed by the EU/US/etc department in charge of such things for classification, it would have to undergo a similar process for a new platform despite being the same game, and they also charge fee's.

It's the same reason UK/US Netflix don't have the same content, even though you can bypass that with a proxy server or changing your DNS settings, they're still obligated to block off any proxys or DNS settings they find people using to access restricted content. Otherwise they'd face a whole bunch of legal issues.

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AndrewLB3686d ago

Giving away for free what cost you time and money to create doesn't pay the rent or put food on your table. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty and advanced technology than any other system in the history of mankind.

btw... please don't confuse Capitalism with Corporatism. Corporatism is what we get when Socialists f**k everything up by injecting big government into the free market, picking winners and losers. Instead of stopping this trend that had been increasing over the past two decades, the Obama administration took the wheel, floored it, and will soon drive us all off a cliff.

Soldierone3686d ago

Thats fine and all, but we are talking about games that were made over two generations ago that already made their fair share of money. Then we are not getting them for free either, we are buying them again.

Then to top it off, its Sony porting them over, not the developers. So there really is no argument here. It's developers wanting money for licenses in all kinds of regions for no real reason at all, or them simply not allowing it.

If it was to cover costs, by all means do it. This isn't the issue though, and I see no reason not to let these games hit Vita beyond wanting to cash a big check that Sony doesn't need to give them.

dantesparda3686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

@AndrewLB

Wow! Nobody wants to hear your nutty political views

Am_Ryder3686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

Haha, buddy. You really have your terms backwards. And your understandings of these things backwards, clearly, because of it. You have to get the language right to discuss this s**t properly.

Corporatism: an offshoot of unregulated capitalism. When capitalism, a fundamentally right-wing, Liberal (read: not socialist) structure is left to it's own devices, THAT is where Corporatism comes into effect. So when every man can build his own wealth, and no upper limit imposed by law or regulation, then you eventually get corporatism. (Which is a small c by the way.)

Corporatism is a damaging, nightmarish SIDE EFFECT OF CAPITALISM. It's not a different thing. It's not Capitalism's fault- it's just what happens when you don't regulate Capitalism. The USA's core tenet is unregulated capitalism (land of opportunity, etc.) and because of this ideology, it is the place where corporatism began. The USA invented and innovated it- because wealth and business expanded so exponentially and quickly that corporations came into existence very rapidly, where there had never been private sector corporations before.

Socialism: the OPPOSITE of the free market and capitalism. It's the OPPOSITE of corporatism. Socialism decrees that centralised, government funds should be held by GOVERNMENT ONLY, to help the needy and poor and create more equality.

Socialism does NOT condone free market. And it does not create government any bigger than government would be anyway. Socialism just leads to more taxation and more welfare state (which, in places like Norway and Sweden, is hugely successful.) Socialism lets capitalism gets on with things generally, but features high taxation and as such puts off corporatism, because big businesses will be taxed more. They tend to go to tax havens instead.

TL;DR:

Capitalism CREATED corporatism
Corporatism is UNREGULATED Capitalism
Socialism is nothing to do with either, and the USA (incl. Obama administration) is TOTALLY UNSOCIALIST.

elninels3686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

Dont confuse Barack Obama with "liberals" who are about as conservatives were 55 years ago. Hes actually less liberal than even they are. Barack has done what every other president has done, line his pockets and follow his donors. If you wanted someone who cares you should've voted Rocky Anderson, or Ralph Nader when we had the chance.

Do you remember Ronald Reagan net increasing taxes, net increasing spending? Do you remember him closing down tens of thousands of mental institutions in California, accounting for at least half of the homeless problem they have now?
What about George H.W. Bush having Kennedy killed?
What about George H.W. Bush's father running a Nazi funded bank in the United States?
What about Richard Nixon expanding a war and bringing about the rise of the Khmer rhouge causing the death of over 2 million people. What about georgie bush and the PATRIOT Act?

Don't inject politics into video games, especially when your preference seeks to regulate said insustry.

On related news, im bummed about this, besides ffx my vita is growing lonely. Give me FFXII for vita please.

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TheDevKit3686d ago

Yeah, you're deluded if you think it's that simple; much of our infrastructure utilizes socialistic tendencies.

We'd be damned without public schools, police departments, fire departments, public libraries, museums, postal service, prisons, sewer systems, the EPA, NPR, vaccines and of course, roads.

Do you think the private sector would do a better job of governing our country?

Do you think corporations would enact laws to help protect and serve you and your family?

Our entire civilization depends on us being a people united.

Socialism is a glue that binds us together and makes possible the things that we could not accomplish as individuals working against each other.

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Seraphim3685d ago

We'd be damned without public schools, police departments, fire departments, public libraries, museums, postal service, prisons, sewer systems, the EPA, NPR, vaccines and of course, roads.

We could do w/o Public Schools and probably end up with a better education. Police we could less of. Fire use Volunteers. Public Libraries. Who needs them. Postal service, this day in age, we could live. Prisons, useless. Just kill the killers, pedophiles, rapists, etc. The prison system is a huge waste of tax payer dollars locking up petty criminals and leaving wastes of life in lock up their entire life w/ free food and health care. NPR, we can definitely live w/o. EPA and Roads. 2 things we do need. Vaccines questionably need though more so for children than adults. The Roman Empire did quite fine maintaining and building roads. Our Government already has too many roads, too many welfare programs, useless agencies and wasted $ to maintain what we have. Cut back on these programs and wasted money pits.

GeofferyPeterson3686d ago (Edited 3686d ago )

I still have the ability to buy the games on my Vita. What are the some of the best games I should buy now, before they stop me? Does FF7 work well on Vita?

kingdom183686d ago

Yes, now only a few ones that were already there still work. I can name Chrono Cross, FF7, FF8.

Jonny5isalive3686d ago

they should allow some of the better ones that work. Im not sure about now but when I got my vita I had to use my ps3 to put silent hill on it. It worked great, but I remember it wasnt on the vita store. I dont have my ps3 anymore so I couldnt get those games if I wanted I guess.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai3d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19722d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19722d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz2d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay2d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers31d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken31d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g31d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing31d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H931d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola31d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66931d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle31d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg32d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos32d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola32d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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