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Microsoft dev admits higher resolution visuals offer 'a big improvement' over 720p

Kinect Sports Rivals developer Rare has admitted that outputting at a higher native resolution than 720p offers "a big improvement" to a game's visuals.

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GarrusVakarian3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Of course it does, every gamer who isn't in denial knows this already. Especially when you start going into the 32 inch plus TV sizes.

1920x1080p is always going to look better than 1280x720p from whatever angle you view it from. Nice to see an X1 dev admit to this instead of downplaying it like some others are doing.

ZodTheRipper3833d ago

Exactly how I wanted to start my comment when reading that title :D
It's twice the resolution, who would even dare to deny that other than rabid fanboys and MS PR guys like Phil Spencer who says that it's more about "the experience" lol.

Blackdeath_6633833d ago

in all fairness to phil its not his fault he has to make up bullshit to cover his companies shortcomings. at least he isn't giving false info

abzdine3833d ago

only fanboys will deny that. native high resolution is the way to go bottom line.

amiga-man3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Why does it need admitting it's just is, anyone who says otherwise are either stupid or blind.

MRMagoo1233833d ago

In other news the sun is hot derp lol

Dagobert3833d ago

Well at the end of the day Phil Spencer is just doing his job, I'm sure deep down he knows the system will fail.

Microsoft's biggest problem was that they felt confident with how the 360 was doing and thought they could do better. Instead they failed, and had they listened to consumer feedback from the beginning they wouldn't be facing all this now.

Guwapo773833d ago

@ amiga-man - They can't be both?

mewhy323833d ago

Yep. There's no spinning that one. Not sure why anyone who knows anything about graphics would think that the same game running at 720p vs 1080p that 720p would be better?????? That makes as much sense as paying 100.00 more for a weaker machine....no logical at all.

badz1493833d ago

OMG Microsoft dev, you guys know NOTHING! resolution is NOT important! all you need is a magic upscaller, noobs! /s

darthv723832d ago

i know my math is really rusty but wouldnt twice the resolution of 1280x720 be something like 2560x1440?

ZodTheRipper3832d ago

720p = 1280x720 = 921.600 pixel
1080p = 1920×1080 = 2.073.600 pixel

2073600/921600 = 2.25

UltimateMaster3832d ago

Oh oh, he might loose his job.
You can't disagree with the bosses.
MS: "SD is teh futurz!"/s
Their word, not mine...

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thrust3833d ago

I agree if both have the same AA.

but if 1080p no AA

720p with full AA the one with full AA would look better.

on my laptop i would put the game rez down a bit so i could use AA on some games because it would look better

GarrusVakarian3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

No.

A full HD 1920x1080 game with no AA would still look sharper than a 1280x720p game with AA. Stop downplaying it to make yourself feel better.

"Not making my self feel better at all am still going to enjoy all my games :) "

But that's exactly what you were doing. Making things up to make yourself feel better about your purchase, i see it all the time. You blatantly haven't ever played a native 1080p game, otherwise you wouldn't have said what you just said ^^^.

TheBigShamona3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Im sorry Thrust but thats just not accurate.

Any PC gamer knows that with Native 1080p on a 1080p display, you can almost get away with no AA.

Turning off the AA can sometimes be the difference between getting your Rig to run Ultra vs High settings.

(More AA is always great but most people have to compromise in some aspect with their Rigs)

Edited to fix spelling

thrust3833d ago

Not making my self feel better at all am still going to enjoy all my games :)

titanfall is the one am.looking forward to the most.

DoesUs3833d ago

The higher the res, the less AA becomes an issue. I'd take 1080p with no AA anyday. Fortunately there are PS4 games that achieve 1080p with AA. 8)

dennett3163833d ago

720p being upscaled to 1080p introduces aliasing issues. You can see it in many Xbox One gameplay videos and footage.

mistertwoturbo3833d ago

What you need to do, is go to Fry's or something and have them demo you a game on a 1920x1080 monitor. Load up a game at native 1920x1080 and then switch it to 1280x720. You will find the 1280x720 image much much more blurrier with bigger jagged lines and pixels the size of your fist.

badz1493833d ago

@trust

LOL how clueles are you, actually? do you even know what AA is? and why it's needed?

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Mike134nl3833d ago

Nice title I assume that's why the kinect game is running at 1080p.

JackISbacK3833d ago

yeah we all know that,it is mutiny towards fans that ms is stil quite and are not taking any steps that what should be done to maintains same fans or higher fans ,yeah we all are unhappy because at last gen atlest all around the world xbox 360 had a lead because it was an amZing console and we all loved it ,but it is realy painful to see the death of this console ,i'am realy waiting for good news and they are bringing bad news every day ,i cannot wait for the launch of both consoles so that this bullshit may stops and i can decide which console to buy first.

Blacksand13833d ago

The XB1 is 720p with a 1080p up-scaled because MS tried to make it a t.v hub first and a gaming console second. My Fios is 720p reg. channels and 1080p on HD channels. When you mix the two that's what you get 720p with a up-scaled of 1080p, because of t.v part of the console.

assdan3833d ago

Its sad it takes a dev to say this for some people to believe it.

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Mikelarry3833d ago

come on now, are these devs that arrogant that believe we take thier word for the gospel. they seem to think gamers are uneducated and will believe any crap they spew.

Mikelarry3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

how am i in denial????, 1080p is an improvement over 720p every one knows this. these devs coming out and saying the above is like they believe gamers are unable to come to that conclusion on their own

xxxsiegezzz3833d ago

@Mikelarry

I have seen so many comments that 720p and 1080p doesn't really have so big difference(some are even on this article) so I can say that every one doesn't know or wan't to belive this.
It's great that xbox dev admids instead of lying.

Gazondaily3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Wtf are you on about? Read the article ffs instead of just reading the title.

"We went up to 960 and it got a bit crisper, and I remember looking at it going, 'actually, yeah, that's a big improvement."

The title is complete click bait. But you see, I know that because I clicked on the article and then the source it was referring to.

" they seem to think gamers are uneducated"

.....

christocolus3833d ago

@septic

i am not one bit surprised..i read the full interview yesterday, its alot more than that. the guy said 1080p wasnt their target, they added it cos they could...its funny how fbs break down positive articles just to find a little part where it can be spun in their favor...lmao..its really ridiculous and getting pathetic..this isnt the first time ive seen such here and its mostly on n4g in see it happening this way...anyways the full interview was quite cool and kinect sports rivals is definitly on my list...

Mikelarry3833d ago

@ septic i am on about the devs LATELY coming out with ridiculous notions and catch phrases about resolutions fiasco. they should not jumnp the boat and make claims about targets they cannot meet and when they fail to meet these targets they come out with excuses to try and downplay it. i did read the article if you don't like my comment that's why the disagree button is there for, no need to get in a blood rage.

PEACE

Gazondaily3833d ago

@Mike

" i am on about the devs LATELY coming out with ridiculous notions and catch phrases about resolutions fiasco. "

Where is the ridiculous notion or catch phrase here?

imt5583833d ago

No shit, devs. Glad to hear.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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