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PS Vita is now crushing Nintendo’s Wii U

A fascinating drama is playing out in Sony and Nintendo’s home market — the PS Vita has found a new lease on life, while the Wii U continues flatlining.

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GreenRanger3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

Sony's last handheld vs. Nintendo's last console.

@ disagrees
If Sony cared about the Vita as much as they do about the PS4, it wouldn't have been completely ignored for 2 E3s straight.

The Wii U should have been released 4 years ago.

Nintendo should go handheld-only because the Wii U won't get the support from old ladies, like the Wii got.

sarshelyam3948d ago

I love when people say Sony ignored the Vita at two E3's. I wonder what those 30 some-odd games I played at this years E3 were all about...apparently my imagination.

GreenRanger3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

@ sarshelyam
Maybe if Sony advertised those games, I wouldn't have to find out that they existed a month after E3, in the comments on N4G.

LOL_WUT3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

@ GreenRanger Sad but true ;)

Not irrelevant when i'm agreeing with the first comment. ;)

PopRocks3593948d ago

@LOL_WUT

Also completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Apollosupreme3948d ago

To the guy complaining about advertising, how many 3DS adverts do you see? How many Android game adverts do you see?

There is a lot of math that goes into determining the value of add campaigns and companies tend to follow the numbers. If it's a big time game they get it out there everywhere, if it's not then it's more subtle, lower cost advertising.

Do most gamers not read gaming sites... Like this one? What, do you deem yourself and the rest of us a minority of savvy gamers? Get real.

MelonSaurus3948d ago

@LOL_WUT

Funny, his name resembles most people's reactions to anything that comes out of his mouth.

rpd1233948d ago

Would've been great if they, I don't know, showed them during their stage time. Games on the floor equates to an incredibly small amount of people knowing about those games. Also, the upcoming list is pretty weak. Mostly ports and indie games, with little to no big name support. And yes AAA support is necessary. If I wanted to play indie games I'd take out my phone and play some. Nobody buys a Vita for the indie support it gets. I love the Vita, but Sony is incredibly bad when it comes to promoting it and making sure it gets quality titles.

BullyMangler3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

ha haa haaa again with the saLes of things? . heh heh jelous fanboys are more hardheaded than a little boy when he finds out Santa was just a HoaX . .

sales? haaa. . so this article is saying that sales determine somethings glory ha ha haaaa faiL . .

ha haaa im about to END this whole sales sharade ha haaaa . . just like this . .

then justin bieber crushes Biggie smalls the destroyer because justin has had more saLes ? < (:

get out of my office!!

gaffyh3947d ago

@GreenRanger - -_- Is that you TheMart?

TheTwelve3947d ago

The Vita now officially has too many games for me to keep up with.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3947d ago

@sarshelyam

What green ranger meant was vita was shown for about 15 mins to the mainstream and that was it.

DATNEWYAWKER3947d ago (Edited 3947d ago )

Yep, you nailed it. @GreenRanger so you only learn of games through advertisements? Funny I've never seen a commercial or posters/billboards for games like Journey, dark/demon souls I can go on. The point is the last I checked Sony isn't a marketing firm. It's up to the publishers to decide based on development budget if "advertising" the hell out of a game is worth it. They know that true gamers will know that the games are out there.

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RetardedIceCream3948d ago

theres no reason nintendo should stop making home consoles and sony to stop making handhelds

Benjaminkno3947d ago

You always have the fanboys clamoring on different levels. The Nintendon't crowd will always there. Older gamers are fixated on blood and guts and graphics. It doesn't matter what Nintendo does, WiiUselessness is a must to help make things better for Sony and MS.

These guys think that Nintendo needs to conform and make games on their consoles, with the same controllers, for decades on end. They've made up their mind and now it's crunch time.

I fail to see what Sony and MS has done that PC doesn't do better.

XisThatKid3947d ago

@Benjaminkno
Sell games. It's been a long time that PC game market has been getting alot better as the same goes by but console sales in game software trump pc for decades. Also compatibility every PS3/Xbox game I buy will work on my system this is not the same with every PC owner without upgrade or OS differences. This is why console is a viable market although slumping due to increase in tablet and phone stuffs

Firan3947d ago

@Benjaminkno

"Older gamers are fixated on blood and guts and graphics."

It's teens who are most fixated on those rather than older gamers.

xXxSeTTriPxXx3948d ago

I get what your saying, but imo I think they ignored the vita @ e3 becsuse its more then likely that the ps4 will sale it.

Concertoine3948d ago

yeah, because the first thing people want to do after spending 400+ dollars on a next gen console is drop another 250 for the vita.

mxrider21993948d ago

tbh the cross gameplay thing makes me want to do that would be awesome for when im in a boring class or at work with no customers or even on break so ya makes me want to

MysticStrummer3948d ago

I want to see more than cross and remote play with Vita and PS4, but it's a good start and if devs make them interact in interesting ways I'd certainly pick up a Vita.

PS4 first though.

PsychOff3947d ago

They have said several times now that TGS and Gamescon is all about PS Vita and PS4. Just maybe before everyone jumps to conclusions they should wait to see those first.

Then if nothing is shown there you can go back to saying everything you have been. No doubt the PS Vita will sell a little more with PS4 but I highly doubt Sony is completely banking on the PS4 to sell them.

That would just be a really stupid business move to rely on the PS4 to sell it alone, clearly that isn't the case.

Good games exist and are coming for the Vita, why people constantly ignore them and say stuff like this is beyond me but that is the world I suppose. Not meant to ever fully understand.

Mariner13947d ago

They didn't IGNORE the Vita, they only have a allotted amount of time and they didn't have an extra hour to talk about the Vita which would not have been hard to do.

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sarshelyam3948d ago

There were simply too many games across all three platforms to mention in one pre-E3 show. They said there'd be over 30 Vita games on the floor...you didn't hear that part, or did you choose to ignore it.

Yes, I understand you have to do some of the legwork here, some research, but missing the mention or simply not taking the time to look up what they spoke to doesn't bolster your argument.

GreenRanger3948d ago

@ sarshelyam
I'm talking about post-E3 advertising.

There are a lot of Vita games that I didn't even know existed until I browsed PSN.

It's Sony's job to make people aware of these games, and they're not putting any effort into it.

abc12333947d ago

Why would Sony put money into advertising games which will inevitably sell relatively little? Go do some research, Sony shouldn't have to put billboards up of every Vita game in development for you to realise that they exist.

SilentNegotiator3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

I've seen cock fights with headless chickens more interesting and competitive than "Vita vs Wii U"

They both have absolutely foolish directions (expensive handheld in time of many people owning a handheld and successor to one of the most successful consoles of all time, with nothing learned from what made it so popular) and they both seem to think that throwing the same old IPs at gamers will save it.

DarkHeroZX3947d ago

Lol all of the 3ds' best selling games are the same old and extremely tried IPs. All vita and Wii U need are price cuts and more exclusives. Like Nintendo shot the Wii U in the face by announcing Smash bros an the 3DS. And Sonic lost Worlds will only have mp for the 3ds. Two less reasons to own a Wii U if you got a 3DS.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3947d ago

@silent

The wii was fraudulentley successful and that wont happen again its a disgrace that console almost sold ps1 numbers.

SilentNegotiator3947d ago

@Pope

They only sold so many copies of games like Mario Kart Wii (~35M) because they had a massive install base from getting the system into so many homes.

IF they had learned from that technique of appealing to such a broad audience, Nintendo could have sold similar numbers on their own software. But now they will likely not even sell half as many copies. And third parties will mostly get mediocre sales on it (but that's expected for a Nintendo console these days, unfortunately).

chrismichaels043947d ago

Certain people can continue criticizing the Vita but the reality is the PS Vita continues to slowly but steadily increase in sales. The Vita may not drop as many games as the 3DS, but Vita games continue to impress with quality must have award winning titles like Tearaway which won this years "GCA E3 Best Portable/Handheld Game" award.

N4Flamers3947d ago

@bullymangler. Props for the long john peter reference. Justin Bieber is more important than biggie to his targrt audience. It seems to be young girls everywhere. I dont think most were alive when biggie died.

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Hozi3947d ago

Poor advertising or not, SONY is supporting the VITA with games. It's not hard to do a google search and see all Vita games (upcoming ones too)

Psychonaut3944d ago

Quiet GreenRanger, we know you're evil, and the WhiteRanger is the good guy. I had nothing clever to add to this conversation. Though I do disagree with you about the Vita being ignored. I like many others must have created games in my mind and played them on a blank Vita screen.

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dedicatedtogamers3948d ago

Seems like a very odd comparison, although I am glad to see the Vita doing poorly instead of horribly (if you catch my drift).

TongkatAli3948d ago

Poorly, My Vita gets played everyday. Idc about how many units sold, my games are the best and my friends on my buddy list send me naked pictures of ladies all the time in the chat box.

I have slutty women photos all over the backgrounds of my bubbles. Which i have 7 walls. I have many multiplayer games. I have the best indie game ever made Gucamelee.

Sales is the only thing I'm misssing : ? i don't understand, are these sales DLC for a game ?

PopRocks3593948d ago

I don't think dedicatedtogamers was trying to say the Vita was useless...

More like, it's doing less badly in sales than it was previously and he's happy it's improved somewhat. I don't see what in his comment made you feel the need to justify your purchase of a Vita.

TongkatAli3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

Pops it may appear I'm trying to justify it, but I got it really good. This isn't a opinion that i have it good. I'm speaking for myself so disagrees can kiss the whitest part of my ass.

Vita has a Xbox live type of communication on a HANDHELD, with good fighting games, good shooting games, good rpg games, good monster hunting games, good indie games, good racing games, good sandbox games, PSP games, Ps one classics good smartphone games, good exclusives and an above par OLED screen.

The bubble OS is soooo underrated too. It's a handheld that can have a shitload of backgrounds each swipe up . The gaming community need to justify not buying one not me who owns one, for real.

Forget to mention Dual analog sticks FTW! See how many pros i listed what is the other sidse argument " I'm broke", riiiigggggghttttttt.

2 years and look at the game catalog. 10 year life cycle with everything Sony baby : )

Zhipp3947d ago

Yup, totally justifying it.

dedicatedtogamers3948d ago

@ TongkatAll

I own a PS Vita, too, and I play it pretty much every day. If you want to add me on PSN send me a PM. Currently playing through SoulSac and Gravity Rush.

(My comment was meant to say that I'm glad it's selling slightly less horribly. I wish it sold like gangbusters but I'll take baby-steps at this point)

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Phil323948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

Worldwide it is a different story, but the article in question is from BGR and reads like fanboy drivel. Why wasn't the 3DS mentioned? I know agendas and all, but c'mon. Rise above this, people.

2pacalypsenow3948d ago

Because The vita ,(which everyone says is dead) is outselling the Wii U (which everyone says its doing fine in sales)

Phil323948d ago

The 3DS is competing with the Vita. The Wii U will be competing with the next gen consoles (and will fail).

And again, this was just Japan that the Wii U was outsold. It's a different story worldwide.

What released on Wii U this week compared to Vita? Oh. Nothing. Oh. It's like some of you are living in your own fantasy worlds, where the Wii U with no new releases is supposed to outsell a system with a new release.

Theyellowflash303948d ago

This was only talking about Japan....Worldwide it's not so much apparent.

Protagonist3948d ago

@2pacalypsenow

Same people who says Wii U will be fine, claims the PS Vita is dead...smh.

Zhipp3947d ago (Edited 3947d ago )

Who in the hell is saying that the Wii U is doing fine? It's selling atrociously! People are saying that it's sales will pick up "when the games come," but no one in their right mind would say that it's selling fine currently.

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chadboban3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

I'm glad to see the Vita doing better (Toukiden is apparently selling really well in Japan). Of course Wii U sales in Japan are not going to be great, they haven't released anything for it and they will continue that way until they release some games for it. I'm curious to see if Pikmin 3's release next week will have any impact on sales. As someone who loves the Pikmin franchise I'll be the first to admit, they aren't exactly system selling games, but we'll see if it can give the Wii U a boost next week.

Also this article is from BGR, the same folks who claimed that healthy sales of the 3DS was a bad sign for Nintendo because it will delay their move into mobile sales for iOS. I felt stupid just typing that out.

MegaLagann3948d ago

"the same folks who claimed that healthy sales of the 3DS was a bad sign for Nintendo because it will delay their move into mobile sales for iOS"

I just... I mean... what!?

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 6h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188115h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218316h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit4h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10120h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10118h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 16h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 2h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 12h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 12h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 12h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 8h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 11h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 11h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN2d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 22h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 15h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 17h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 13h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger2d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 11h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 10h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger7h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto2d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 23h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator2d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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