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A "Fanboy" Reaction to Microsoft's DRM Retraction

Casey White wrote: "The more I think about it the more upset I become that the old generation of gamers are hindering progress just because they don’t understand that a company has rights, just as they have rights as consumer.

Two major features, which were ones that I had personal interest in (one of which was the reason I put down my deposit for an Xbox One as soon as the conference ended), have now been removed from the future release of the console"

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Boody-Bandit4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

MS dropped DRM because it's not what MOST consumers wanted. It doesn't matter how anyone tries to spin MS dropping this policy. It would've ultimately hurt the industry if they were successful with it. It's obvious, by how fast they rescinded, they were getting trounced by it's implementation. Proving most consumers weren't going to put up with it.

I say congratulations to those that were sticking to your guns and voting with your wallets.

Grave4395d ago

I agree. It's like they thought they had the power to do what they wanted using the guise of "it's the future". Our future contains more consumer rights thanks to this reversal. Let'em get a foot in the door and the next thing you'll have is a credit card prompt to play the next level of the game you don't own.

SilentNegotiator4395d ago

"Bu- but 10 people to a single game would have saved the industry from the horrors of used games!"

nypifisel4395d ago

Haha yeah that honestly made no fking sense!

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Ray1864395d ago

You don't get it do you. They didn't do gamers any favors or change because of some older gamer outrage. They changed because the pre-orders started coming in and realized that other people are going to have their jobs next year. Sure they have all the rights in the world to do whatever they want with their products.

I also have the right to spend my money any way that I see fit. MS learned a very valuable lesson today. The real question is will they be able to change consumer perceptions about their product.

TheNightNinja4395d ago

The pre-order numbers were referenced in the article. Thanks for reading!

This is just my personal opinion, it's fine if you don't disagree but this mentality of "your opinion is wrong" it a little ridiculous. An opinion can't be wrong, it's a personal statement.

Heisenburger4395d ago

Typically I would agree with the "opinions can't be wrong" statement(for obvious reasons).

Though at some point there has to be a line.

There were(are?) people that were(are?) pro-Hitler, pro-Nazi, ect.

Lol I am NOT in the slightest comparing anything here to concentration camps, nor am I attempting to make light of the subject.

Though my point is, at some point an opinion CAN be wrong(incorrect).

Salooh4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

( Stealing is right and that's my opinion )
In your logic i'm not wrong and it's my personal statement.

( I like apples more then orange )
That's called opinion and i can't argue with that

( Xbox live in X1 is better then PS+ on ps4 )
That's also some kind of opinion but in reality ps+ gives you more value then Live so your opinion is wrong.

Note : Didn't read the article but your comment here is wrong , no offense , just to make the difference between an opinion and what's wrong or right. So :

Opinion from facts = can't argue with it
Opinion while ignoring the facts = wrooong
Facts= facts

HammadTheBeast4395d ago

Exactly. People are giving them way too much credit for being snapped.

NextGen24Gamer4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

I agree with everything he said in the article/rant. I'm very upset with Microsoft changing their policies and caving in to the gamers not ready for the next gen. Dare I say it. The Xbox one is just the Xbox 360 now with better graphics.

Sad day for the advancement of gaming. Thanks Sony for keeping the gaming industry as is and now we have to wait another 7 years for the digital advancments that could have been here in November.

I just hope they give Xbox one owners an option when they register their console to go always online. 2/3 of Xbox one owners will most likely choose that option and we can family share....

rextraordinaire4395d ago

You know what? That family sharing thing would be pretty much possible even without the required 24h check-in. Microsoft just removed you a feature, but only because they wanted to. Not because the technology wouldn't allow it without being always online.

rainslacker4395d ago

The old adage, "You can't please everybody" comes to mind. If you were truly looking forward to those features, then I empathize with your situation.

However, what you wanted was obviously not what a majority wanted.

Your last sentence says it all. The customer should have the choice. If MS had approached this issue with choice at the center, the outcome would have been entirely different.

I do hope that MS can find a way to make things like you want a reality. It would go a long way in ushering in this vision that MS had in the long term. I even find some of those features a good step towards a digital future. But for the time being, the ways MS was trying to implement were just a bad value proposition on the part of the consumer.

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Bigpappy4395d ago

You said: "However, what you wanted was obviously not what a majority wanted."

You know this based on pre-orders or N4G. The majority, I am afraid, kept silent as they usually do. Its the nosiest that got what they wanted. That's a shame too. Gullible masses can be very dangerous.

rainslacker4394d ago

No Bigpappy. If the majority want something, then they have their own "vocal minority" that would come to have their say.

There wasn't a lot of that in this issue. On this site alone, I can name maybe 5-6 people who would routinely speak up for the side of MS. Most of them came across as trolls, because they only spoke in absolutes. Didn't offer constructive debate, and weren't taken seriously because of it. Most of their arguments were, "It doesn't effect me". It wasn't until this game sharing thing was revealed that they actually had a reason to have seemingly legitimate support for these policies.

If you look at other issues not quite as polarizing on this site, the comments have plenty of vocal opposition because the opinions vary greatly. This time though, it was a lot of gamers coming together to voice their concerns or outright hate for these policies.

But keep telling yourself that you are part of the majority, just know that all evidence points to you being in a very unvocal minority.

NihonjinChick4395d ago

If you want to go digital, then go digital. Nothing is stopping you from buying all your games digitally. People shouldn't have to be forced to make that change, it should stay optional.

psyxon4395d ago

so microsoft should cave into the thousand people who are ready for the supposed "next gen" features in x1? ignoring the majority who simply don't want the crap they were imposing? yeah, okay.

SpideySpeakz4395d ago

MS already stated the Family Sharing plan won't even be available at launch, with or without DRM.

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rainslacker4395d ago

A company does have rights. But a company only survives at the whim of it's customers. Those customers spoke to what they want, and the company made their decisions accordingly.

It isn't the current gen gamer who's holding anything back. It's the current gen gamer simply saying what it is they want, and what they are willing to spend their money on.

If that doesn't line up with what the author wants from the console, then he can start his own campaign to see if MS will reverse their decision again. It's how the game works.

Software_Lover4395d ago

......... I had a long response, but at this point in time, it's not worth it lol. To each his own.

Game on people, game on.

HammadTheBeast4395d ago (Edited 4395d ago )

I swear this happens to every long comment you have lol.

Edit: Oh ok. Nevermind lol.

Software_Lover4395d ago

Just 2 that I can think of.

ltachiUchiha4395d ago

Hell to the yes mate, this is awesome news & is only healthy & good for the gaming industry. It feels like christmas for me. Game on mate.

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Xbox Mass layoffs Are Expected To Hit On July 2, 2025

The previously rumored mass layoffs at Xbox are expected to happen on Wednesday, July 2, 2025, according to a new rumor.

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lukasmain9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

They will have fired close to 20,000 people all up after this round of lay-offs coming, since the ABK deal announcement in January 2022. Shocking really

January 2023:
Microsoft laid off 10,000 employees, which was a significant workforce reduction.

January 2024:
Approximately 1,900 gaming employees were laid off following the Activision Blizzard acquisition.

May 2025:
Microsoft announced a further 6,000 layoffs as part of an organizational shift.

June 2025:
Additional layoffs, including 650 in the gaming business, focused on corporate and support functions

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Obscure_Observer8h ago

"They will have fired close to 20,000 people all up after this round of lay-offs coming, since the ABK deal announcement in January 2022. Shocking really"

It's not that shocking considering these numbers aren't just Xbox numbers as you're deliberately trying to make it seem for some reason.

Interestingly, another no shocking fact is that whenever Microsoft releases its quarterly earnings reports, you're quick to point out that those numbers aren't exclusive to Xbox. Yeah... go figure.

Ganif6h ago

They also fired around 2500 people across Microsoft's gaming divisions and Zenimax shortly after buying it, and before they closed down 4 studios including Arkane and Tango.

I remember Satya boasting about how compassionate he was for splitting the list 50/50 across the two companies.

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Obscure_Observer3h ago

"They also fired around 2500 people across Microsoft's gaming divisions and Zenimax shortly after buying it"

Bring your sources. I´ll wait.

1dmj1h ago

He doesn’t have any sources lol

He also forgot that Sony does layoffs too

Hereandthere7h ago

Let's hope its not as bad as socials are making it, good luck to those that unfortunately lose their jobs.

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Lightning776h ago

Could be not as bad could be horrible. But it's Ms so I'm expecting the absolute worst.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Sometimes I feel like they brought in Sarah to take the heat away from Phil.

Phil has always stuck his nose into everything Xbox related when it's something positive or at least neutral but as soon as they went the multiplatform root he's stood back and let Sarah do most of the talking in terms of PR. Now they are doing the same with layoffs.

The person who should be let go is Phil himself.

RhinoGamer883h ago

Phil and his inner circle of circle jerk bros like AG.

Obscure_Observer3h ago

"Phil has always stuck his nose into everything Xbox related when it's something positive or at least neutral but as soon as they went the multiplatform root he's stood back and let Sarah do most of the talking in terms of PR. Now they are doing the same with layoffs."

You have no idea what you´re talking about.

*IF* Microsoft decides to address the upcoming layoffs, Matt Booty will be the one in the spotlight since he is the president of XGS.

Phil will probably be on some bs drama later doing interviews telling people how "devastated" and "sorry" he is for those affected while wiping away his tears with money.

Sarah is the President of Xbox (hardware) so she will be better off taking care of hers business and let both Matt and Phil face the backlash.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy012d ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN1d 10h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga1d 9h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6381d 8h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein1d 6h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN1d 2h ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts1d 8h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark1d 19h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils3d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent752d ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai4d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning774d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher3d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor3d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde3d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z2d ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey862d ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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