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Sony confirms: 1 account with PS+ will let the other accounts on PS4 also play online

Sonys Yoshida confirms that if you for example have multiple accounts on a PS4 and only 1 of the accounts have PS+, all the other accounts will also be able to play online.

ArchangelMike3972d ago

Dang, they showing how it's meant to be done. M$ sit up, wipe that blood of your face and take note.

abzdine3972d ago

i have been a PS+ member for the third year and i have never been so happy. In fact, i cannot install all games they offer on my DD cause i have no space left :D

and PS+ is only getting better on PS4! Drive Club offered day one? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????? I just have to buy Killzone and Knack next to

X1 offers Assassin's Creed 2 and Halo 3... LOL.

Greatness awaits
4>>>>>1

iGAM3R-VIII3972d ago

ITS LESS THAN 5 BUCKS TO GO ONLINE HELLLLLA YEAAAAHHH SONY!!!!

Intentions3972d ago

You do realise MS has this feature too. Just saying, assuming you've read the articles and watched the e3 conference.

If not, then yeah. News flash.

shoddy3972d ago

I'm still sad to pay to play online.

Still ps4 day one

Raf1k13972d ago

Yes I'm not happy about having to pay to play online. I mentioned to someone the other day how it was a big reason for me not getting a 360 this gen.

I do want a console to go with my PC next gen so I'm having to weigh the pros and cons of both PS4 and XO. I think even with the pay wall to online access on PS4 it's still the better option for me considering all the pros PS4 and PS+ have over MS's offerings.

Also, I already saved enough to spend £500 on a new console if I had to but the PS4 being as cheap as it is means I can also get a bunch of games for it too. Plus Drive Club for free is a very sweet thing and I like sweet things :)

LoveOfTheGame3971d ago

Just making sure I didn't hear them wrong, it is pay to play online right?

This should help Sony with server upkeep and make PSN better for those getting it. Also cool both systems are doing one account for online, makes things so much easier.

Still technically on the fence but leaning heavily to Xbox one (liked their offering of games better) but probably going to own both eventually.

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Mainman3971d ago

To be honest, I rather have DRM on used games, then having to have to pay for multi-player.

What if I only play multi-player once every 3 weeks or something? That is simply not worth the 5 dollar price tag. I believe they messed up on this one.

Or maybe, what they should do, is let me pay a one time fee per individual game that lets me play online with that particular game for-ever. Because I only play multi-player with a handfull of games.

I personally hate monthly or annually recurring fee's, I much rather pay one time and then not worry about it.

darthv723971d ago

this plus the announcement that live gold can be shared among others on the same system is a welcome change.

Jonoc333971d ago

@Mainman what if you had DRM AND.you had to pay for online?

Besides, if you pay for online you also get all the ps plus benefits. There's more to it that just the online play.

NumOnePS3FanBoy3971d ago

@intentions Assuming they will continue to sell their psn cards, which im sure they will continue to do so, Itis only $50 a month for a years worth of psn+

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Calm Down Sunshine3972d ago

Xbox 360 - pay to play online - bad idea.

PS4 - pay to play online - amazing idea.

Whilst Playstation + is a better deal than Xbox live, we shouldn't be so bias as to accept this as if they're doing us a favour. Online multiplayer should be free all-round.

unchartedxplorer3972d ago

Yes but you get a ton more features with ps plus like free games every month.

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paranoid19713972d ago

Don't like it myself, it's one of the reasons i stopped playing on my 360 and focused on ps3.
But, i can see why they did it, it must have been painful watching MS rake in all that cash for something they were doing for free, plus they're a business and businesses need to be profitable.
Still i'd rather it be free.

Even so ps4 and ps+ is still cheaper than Xboxone minus Xboxlive.

Hicken3972d ago

What all were you getting with your subscription to XBL?

Playing games online.

What all are you getting with your subscription to Plus?

Entirely too much.

That's why there's a difference in the reception.

I agree that it should be free, but there's more reason to be happy over how Sony is doing it than how MS is doing it.

princejb1343972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Pay to play online is a horrible idea no matter what platform, however, if we have no choice but to pay than why not pay for the obsolete best. The one with the most benefit for the gamer and the best features.

karl3972d ago

I agree but u cant blame sony while there are millions of xbox sheep paying for online.. the same thing will happen again.. if xbox fanboys keep buying xbox even with drm and all the other restrictions next gen sony will use it aswell.

VOte with your money dude. Its simple. Xbox is affecting us all. And when I buy a sony console im even helping xbox users.

x5exotic3972d ago

Well
Xbox 360 = shitty, doesn't have god of war or other sony exclusives, anything in it is le bad idea

mt3972d ago

never said it is good idea, it is always bad idea for consumers to keep paying. but PS4 is the best option out there now. I mean come on use your mind, $399 no DRM, no used games restriction.

SuperLupe3972d ago

I hardly play online, I dont have an Xbox Live account so when I play the only game I play online i.e FIFA I use my PS3.

Sorry but it sucks to HAVE to pay to just play inline multiplayer.

Also the double standard the N4G crowd is showing is absoluteley mind blowing.

Gaming_Guru3972d ago

I would rather pay for online than to have DRM restrictions like Microsoft. Paying this time around has more value than just online, so it's more on the expression of the idea than the idea itself.

vigilante_man3972d ago

I agree its a bad idea. But it is more preferable than having to purchase a network pass with each game - and cheaper.

Plus (+) you can still use netflix, lovefilm, etc. for free on PS4. That is important.

And you get cloud game saves and free games on PS4, PS3 & PS Vita. That is an amazing deal.

xxBiG_BoSSxx3972d ago

I'm in somewhat the same boat as you. My online play is sporadic and I'm not happy with having to pay each month for the potential. $5 a month over the current 7 year lifespan of ps3 is $420. That's another console or 7 games.

I have 2 ps3's now because my wife and I play co-op together and hate splits-screen because we're cyclops'(some of that may be inaccurate).

Will we now have to pay $10 a month? This past year has been rough financially for us. And I doubt one ps+ membership extends to multiple consoles, but perhaps an existing member here could clear that up.

Also, its not so much having to pay that has me irked as it is the way Jack Tretton glossed over it during the conference. If they had been clear about what has changed/improved about their online that requires me to pay now I probably would have accepted this news easier.

Firan3972d ago

Yeah the community made a 180 degree turn again. Gotta give credit that this is the only negative feature of the system.

What they could do is bundle a 3 month subscription to lure in customers. Once I went PS+ there was no going back. Excellent service.

Ratty3972d ago

I think the amazing idea part in these comments come from the fact you'll be able to play online if there's a ps+ account on the ps4, not that you have to pay to play online.

However, PS+ is still cheaper and gives you more. Having more subscriptions could potentially lead to better deals in the instant game collection eventually.

farhad2k83972d ago

Did you not READ the title?!
On XBOX you have to pay for EACH ACCOUNT if you want to play offline. So if you have FOUR people living in a house, that's $240 a year blown on XBL GOLD just to play online.

PS4? $60 a year for EVERY account, along with that, you get WAY MORE free games than XBOX GOLD, and keep in mind, the XBL GOLD games theyre giving for free right now are ONLY UNTIL XBOX ONE is released.

I agree that the fee for MP is still a bit sad, but Sony had to do it at one point, they have to pay for their servers in one way or another, as long as it helps them make the servers better, I'm willing to pay, and I've been a PS+ member for almost two years now anyway, so it's no problem for me.

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Raf1k13972d ago

I agree. Online play should be free regardless so we should really make a fuss about it on twitter.

However, I think the fact that Sony have saved our freedom on the PS4 is making that particular pill much easier to swallow for a lot of people.

Ju3972d ago

Blame it on MS, tbh. Sony can pull this off because they know the alternative is getting screwed over even worse. Not liking it, but still the better alternative.

cleft53971d ago

People don't like paying to play online in Microsoft case because you get nothing real in return. Microsoft holds the online portion of their console hostage and gives you nothing for paying the online fee. Sony is giving you a PS4 game day 1, so yeah it's worth it.

specialguest3971d ago

Go ahead hypocrites, defend yourselves. This might be an end of an era for me. I barely game these days as it stands and i refuse to pay for access to play the other half of a game i pay full price for. The extra perks i get with PS+ does NOTHING for me in my case because i don't game enough to take advantage of it.

DOMination-3971d ago

The 360 actually already does this. I have two accounts but I can play online on both despite only one being gold. MS confirmed this for X1 as well. So whilst its obviously nice the fist pumping in this article for Sony is not really necessary.

avengers19783971d ago

I dont think it's an amazing Idea, in fact it was one of PS3's strongest selling points IMO, but something had to give I guess, a 400$ price point, region free, no DRM, No used game blocks/fees...
Plus is a great option now, and If you are a Plus member than you know that a few free games, and that pretty much pays for itself... I've had plus since it came out and The amount of good free games that come out is amazing, totally justifies the 50$ a year......
Besides that Xbox has done it for years, and it's no big deal, in fact a lot of people will tell you they don't even care about the 60$ a year price MS makes you pay... at least PSplus is cheaper

LAZL0-Panaflex3971d ago (Edited 3971d ago )

Yeah but jack Denton and Johny Toyota never announced u gotta pay for plus. "IF" u pay for plus. I watched the whole conference. I buy plus anyways but its still free

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linkenski3972d ago

Their conference was dissapointing because it didn't really hype me up with new game reveals, but they punched MS in their face with the non-DRM reveal! I'm still totally getting the PS4. It is cheaper after all, and all those awesome games from MS' conference, BF4, The Witcher 3 and MSGV are all coming to the PS4 anyway!

PS4OUR3972d ago

Lol, i have been in tears of joy since the PS4 reveal. Its like i have died and gone to gaming heaven where all my dreams are coming true *sheds a tear*

T23971d ago

The pay online was a negative but its one small negative and the price is cheapest I had hoped for so paying for plus is not too bad in that case

thezeldadoth3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Suddenly paying for online is sweet now that sony is doing it. "bu bu bu dey offer free gamez"

Microsoft is doing this as well. I'm probably not buying either console, the fanboyism on here is just beyond pathetic.

Also on xbox one all of your family members can play the games your main account has, same thing.

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Megatron3163971d ago

i love this, i prayed for everything that happened today. Abes Odysee returns!! PS$ blue LED i wanted it, PS4 BF4 64 players it there, Battlefront BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sharius3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

next news: PS4 can cure the cancer

sobekflakmonkey3972d ago

'can cure "The" Cancer'

That made me laugh so hard, just the fact that you put "the" in there... :D

Rusty5153972d ago

I don't think there's any way to cure the xbone anymore.

vigilante_man3972d ago

They've got a loaded gun and the're shooting themselves in the foot...

TrevorPhillips3972d ago

Sony, ya killing me here!

Can't wait to pick this bad boy up! :D

badz1493972d ago

Why is Sony killing you with this? Are you the XBone? /jk

But this great news as we will still be able to play online using different accounts with only 1 PS+ account! Sony definitely know how to win a gamer's heart!

SonyPS43971d ago

Christ will bless the PS4 from the heavens.

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Saints943972d ago

Sony why u so gewd to me dood?

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers19h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken6h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g15h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing15h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H915h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola11h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66914h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle14h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 7h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 2h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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