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Xbox Durango: How Microsoft Can Win Next-Gen

"With rumours swirling around about next-generation consoles, Sony’s unveiling of ‘some’ PlayStation 4 information has gotten people wondering what exactly Microsoft can do to match or surpass Sony’s new console" | Explosion.com

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TheLyonKing4083d ago

Depends how Microsoft sees winning.

Aside from sales even if say ps4 sells more games ms would still stay but our nexbox has more users using it for Facebook and tv etc.

In all honesty if they are still 75% about games then they still have my vote.

Sony seems very committed to and I am glad. Remember it's a games console not a multimedia device that can also play games.

aceitman4083d ago

If Sony can catch up to ms coming in a year later and Sony coming in this gen 1st or at the same time with a very good console and a good price I can't see ms winning next gen at all. If Sony says they learn there mistakes from last gen and do it right Sony can dominate strong. I'm not trolling it's just looking in Sonya's favor strongly .

The Meerkat4083d ago

Good online service with good games, thats all I need.

I opted with MS this gen because by the time Sony had games and an acceptable online I was already committed to MS.

But next gen Sony will have the online and the games working right from the start. So I'm inclined to go with Sony this time as I don't like the direction MS have taken over the last 24 months.

Skips4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

Sonya?

http://trickfist.com/trickf...

EDIT: I completely agree.

madpuppy4082d ago

Sonic200, that picture of Sonya looks like Dolf Lundgren on hormone therapy.

b163o14082d ago

Agreed, MS biggest downfall is the lack of original IP's. Something we all know Sony is fairly strong at. The article says MS should just make new IP's for there core gamers, but the problem with that is creating IP's is not an easy task. If it was the MS would be known for more the just Halo, Gears and Forza. It's a big financial risk to create a new IP's and know matter how well if its promoted or advertised if its a bad game it's not gonna sell. I remember MS buying up studios when the 360 first came out, but did nothing with them. I hope they can right there ship, cause we as gamers are the one who benefit, no matter which system is your choice…cheers

dcbronco4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

Actually Original IP that doesn't sell has been a part of Sony's struggles. It may help them this generation, but it hurt them badly last generation. People keep talking like Sony has had major success with all of their exclusives. It's the exact opposite. Most haven't done well. They were break even games or lost money. Starhawk and Twisted Metal and inFamous 2. Those games lost money.

As much as people want to hate Kinect most of those games probably made money. So last generation had nothing to do with this generation. The only effect will be on fanboys of both sides incapable of making an informed choice. Fanboys will remain loyal to a fault while rational people will be smart enough to make a rational choice.

Rational people will look at all three consoles and decide on one or the other , two of the choices or all three. They won't base their decision on myths and legends and belief that it can't be on the Internet if it isn't true.

And save the only Sony cares about gamers thing. There is a name for companies that really, reallly care about what their company is doing. Non-profits(and most of them are liars too).

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omi25p4082d ago

Sony came first this gen? Huh, you learn something new every day.

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-Superman-4083d ago

It needs:
GAMES, GAMES, GAMES(EXCLUSIVE GAMES, NO KINECT GAMES)
CHEAP PRICE
FREE ONLINE

If there is a kinect, then we all know they will focus on Kinect, and then no buy Xbox 720

AngelicIceDiamond4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

From article:

"It looks rather obvious that Microsoft can craft games that gamers want to play."

Makes sense the idea of Mass Effect, Gears, Alan Wake last gen games like Halo and Fable.

That's why I'm not worried about MS's core offerings and where it stands. MS has established HOT selling, and brand name franchises.

What makes everyone thank they can't do it again? because of Kinect? For 2 years that was MS's strategy with 360. If MS could, they would be releasing core games along side Kinect but they can't seeing how they don't own enough studios.

With 22 new* studios 6 of them being casual that leaves 16 core studios. Unlike N4G I'm not worried about if they'll "make hardcore" games or not. That's a pretty dumb question why wouldn't they?

MS is releasing a new video game console. The hardcore are the first to listen and observe (E3) and the first one in line (retail stores) Hardcore are there thick and thin.

And clearly MS knows this.

Donnieboi4082d ago

Such strong delusion...

mistertwoturbo4082d ago

Hardware wise they need:

16 Core Intel i7-4960X Processor
32GB GDDR6 in Quad Channel
2 GTX TITAN's on the same die
2TB SSD
USB 4.0

All priced under $299.

sdrawkcab4082d ago

Boy, that escalated quickly.

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mushroomwig4083d ago

'Integrate Kinect Properly Into Hardcore Games'

That idea alone is doomed to fail because that's not what hardcore gamers want.

OlgerO4083d ago

What? dont you like flailing your arms in front of the tv ?seems pretty hard core to me.

ALLWRONG4082d ago

You will be doing the same thing on the PS4 with the PS4's Kinect like thing.

Is the Sony camp trying to deny its existence?

CraigandDayDay4082d ago

The difference is that the Move will be used for hardcore ps4 games and the Kinect-type gameplay for games like just dance and the like.

DigitalRaptor4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

@ ALLWRONG

The "PS4's Kinect like thing"? You mean their next logical iterative enhancement of the PS EYE? Yeah, it was going to happen regardless of Microsoft's focus on camera-based gaming/yoga.

However, I welcome new options, but where I know it will benefit me, is that it won't be a huge focus like we know Kinect 2.0 will be for Microsoft. I like the way in which Sony treated Move, as its focus didn't supersede the reasons for which people bought the PS3 in the first place. I hope and expect that modest approach with the PS4 EYE technology, where they offer it to developers but don't force people to make things out of it. Same with the light-bar on the DS4, I expect cool options from it, but don't take away what is core to the experience.

As long as both companies have a strong core gaming presence then I don't have issues. I've heard Microsoft have formed new studios to make new IPs. As long as they're not all Kinect-based there shouldn't be a problem.

Smeagol20334082d ago

I am a hardcore gamer and I want that. Speak for yourself

stage884082d ago

= you are not a hardcore gamer.

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phinch4083d ago

Don't force kinect on us, release some games, new games for gamers, I dont want to dance jump or move around my living room, i just want to get home from work, switch on my console and play a proper game

DiRtY4083d ago

Durango could cure cancer and N4G would still prefer the PS4.

SnakeCQC4083d ago

sony consoles usually allow you to do more than just gaming and are made to a better quality(my ps3 40gb fat version runs still runs quieter than my xbox 360 elite which sounds like its got lawn mower motor powering the dvd drive) and online is free m$ charging for playing online was a d*** move

doublebass24083d ago

Maybe if you really had an xbox 360 you would know by now that install games to harddrive, or usb stick-pen drive makes it way more quiter and faster than ps3 loading countrerpart!Its from a 2009 update, an now you can install 2 usb devices up to 32gb each!!Quit complaining!

p.s. cheer that you still have a functional 40gb ps3!It will soon ylod or rlod as well as mine did..Go get a slim ps3 before its 2 late!!

SnakeCQC4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

I've had an xbox and ps3 for some time and have a high end pc. I work; so I have money and don't rely on my parents for gifts every xmas and birthday.

i do install games but ms doesnt make it easy to change out the hdd so i fill my 120 gb quite easy ps even with the games installed its alot louder than my ps3

NukaCola4082d ago

......Folding@HOME

well...actually there buddy, it kind of...

Dilldo_4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

Haha well said. Don't know why this site is so infected with prepubescent ps fanboys.. It's been like that for years and I never quite found the reason

OlgerO4083d ago

Apparently we do not all have your intelligence mister Dildo

MysticStrummer4083d ago

If only more people could be as mature as you, Dildo.

Rockstar4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

Apparently you weren't here in 2006. As a PS3 owner at the time Sony hate was rampant and "ps fanboys" were in the minority.

The reason why "this site is so infected" may be bigger fan base?

Just guessing.

ALLWRONG4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

"Apparently you weren't here in 2006"

That's just an excuse, this is 2013. If you want to be taken to the past go watch "Angry Video Game Nerd".

Rockstar4082d ago

I'm not making excuses.
Just refreshing the memories of all the pots calling the kettle black.

Also...I think I will watch Angry Video Game Nerd.

PurpHerbison4082d ago

I genuinely miss the era that had the modest "to each their own" kind of sony fanboy. The current sony fanboy is just as ridiculous as the early microsoft fanboy for the 360.

mistertwoturbo4082d ago

I was here in 2006. It wasn't just PlayStation gamers that were targeted. The sheer mention of you owning a Wii over a 360 grants you 10 lashes.

Thankfully those rabid 360-only fans are gone.

Now I've also noticed the uprising of rabid PS fanboys, but they are nowhere near the mental retardation of those 360 ones.

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jessupj4083d ago

Maybe if MS actually release some games and stop charging for the privilege of using my own bandwidth I might actually start paying attention.

I find it funny that you find it funny that gamers don't like a console that's not focused on games.

SDF Repellent4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

"I find it funny that you find it funny that gamers don't like a console that's not focused on games."

LOL, do you know how embarrassing that comment is. Outside of Twisted Metal and Sony Smash brothers, what titles that was on the PS3 last year that Xbox 360 owners don't have the option to buy? Oh yes, there was also Halo 4 and Forza Horizon too.

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SDF Repellent4083d ago

@Tiqila,

LOL, if you are referring to the free games on PS +, you do know it is not free right? Those Free games are only available to you while you have a valid subscription, if it is canceled, you are S.O.L. How do I know? Because I had used the service before, have you?

saint_seya4082d ago

SDF, idk MAYBE journey, that won more awards than forza and halo 4 #guess u decided to forget that game ;)

DigitalRaptor4082d ago (Edited 4082d ago )

With a name like SDF Repellent, it really goes to show that when it comes down to it you're really a huge fanboy, and it exposes your insecurities.

In relation to your comment, it's not fine to ignore that Microsoft ACTUALLY charge you to use your own bandwidth. P2P connectivity. Heard of it? Obviously not. Nothing embarrassing about exposing Microsoft on that part.

What other titles you say? I say LittleBigPlanet Karting, Starhawk, Sorcery, Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One, Yakuza: Dead Souls, Tales of Graces f, MLB 12: The Show, Jak & Daxter/Ratchet & Clank HD (old games, still options for PS3 gamers), The Unfinished Swan. Let's not forget the game of the year Journey which, as a downloadable title, beat out many big names - even Halo 4.

However, what we're talking about here, is Microsoft doing the same thing as they did with the original Xbox, which is dropping support. After the spin-off Gears game, what's on the horizon for the 360? Exactly.

PS3: Ni no Kuni, Sly Cooper, God of War, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Tales of Xilia, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix, Dust 514, GT6. Perhaps The Last Guardian and FF Versus XIII.

360: Gears of War Judgement.

Hmmmmm, yeah..

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StreetsofRage4082d ago

LilBigPlanetKarting? LOL!

You just made yourself look like a fool with that one. Just cuz sony has more exclusives doesn't mean it's any good. The games you mentioned nobody wanted. All Stars? LMAO! Get out of here with that mess. Didn't even crack the top 50 in software sales the first month. Like I always say....

The 360: Quality
The Ps3: Quantity

Can't wait for Gears Judgement. BTW, Ni No was a good game. First game I bought since Uncharted 3. And by from all those exclusives that you mentioned...I'm not the only one that skipped those games judging them by sales.

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MysticStrummer4083d ago (Edited 4083d ago )

That cure for cancer would only be available with a XBL Gold account.

Speaking of curing diseases, did 360 ever have anything like Folding@home? The app has been removed from PS3 now, but it was available for 6 years.

http://folding.stanford.edu...

lol @SDF "what titles that was on the PS3 last year that Xbox 360 owners don't have the option to buy?"

You are truly representative of your chosen online community, SDF. On behalf of PSN, thank you for staying with XBL.

MariaHelFutura4082d ago

People around here are so insecure.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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