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Rare veteran George Andreas leaves Microsoft for Sony, now Creative Director of SCEE

Rare veteran George Andreas has left Microsoft to join Sony.

Andreas, who played a key role in the development of the Kinect hardware, Kinect Sports 1 and Kinect Sports: Season 2 as well as Xbox 360 launch games Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero, joined Sony this month as creative director of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, working out of SCEE's London office.

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NYC_Gamer4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

He made the right move...It's a waste of his talent only being able to work on Kinect products...

Software_Lover4137d ago

Now he'll work on making the Move popular!!!

touche

HarryMasonHerpderp4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

lol don't even joke.
Let's hope Sony use his talent to make awesome games.

zebramocha4137d ago

@soft of course,unlike kinect the move can be implemented in a variety of games and it works.

Red_Orange_Juice4137d ago

I'd love next gen Star Wars game with Move

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Software_Lover4137d ago

@ Zebra Mocha.........

The kinect isn't used in a variety of games?

@ don bear

meet me on ps3
id:cherub2g

pick a game. I'll play you.

blackbeld4137d ago

Great move.

Welcome to Sony Family.

Sony family will treat you much better cause you deserve better.

smashman984137d ago

Rare doesn't have the same people they did back when they were with Nintendo not saying wether or not this guy is talented but don't think him being at scee means that he's going to bring that old rare flavor to sony

TheStorm4137d ago

@smashman98

It said he was there for 16 years, so he's been there since 96-97. That was during the glory days, so he was probably with a lot of the great oldies at Rare, it was around 2000 that most of them started to jump ship.

dafegamer4137d ago

harrymason just took the words out of my mouth

kingmushroom4137d ago

@ don bear: he can't go back to xbox because there are no exclusives to play only COD, unlike the PS3 that has "Ni no Kuni".

UnholyLight4137d ago

Hey ZEBRAMOCHA.....At least Microsoft had a set of BALLS. Sony took the easy way out with Move and merely attempted to improve on the WiiMote and everyone knows it. At least Microsoft has been experimenting with hybrid games and full motion gaming and not just making "eye toy copy games".

Kevin ButIer4137d ago

SCEE's London mostly develop casual games, so... don't expect a big change

FlunkinMonkey4137d ago

@ Sotfware_Lover

"Pick a game. I'll play you.'

Did you just offer 'don bear' the geek equivalent of stepping outside? ha

BattleAxe4137d ago

Xbox 360....Jump Out...

Syntax-Error4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

If that's true why hasn't it. The MOVE is a commercial flop. The thing had no legs from the beginning just like the six-axxis controller. It was a pointless gimmick. Sony makes great first party games and should stick to that. The "me too" peripherals make them look desperate.

Most of these fools that think he was denied freedom at MS are idiots. When was the last time RARE had a hit? MS bought RARE because they were going bankrupt. It wasn't like they bought them when they were making hits and had great stock options. The shareholders were screaming SELL SELL! You guys act as if SCEA game division is the place to be especially since they are losing tons of money.

FriedGoat4136d ago (Edited 4136d ago )

Syntax, move has much better functionality in CORE games, I enjoyed using it in mag/socom/killzone aswell as some of the other Move only titles such as Tumble/echochrome/House of the dead overkill.

Unlike the kinect, which has to sacrifice core games for Kinect only titles. all I've been playing on my xbox for the past year or 2 is gears 3 and halo 4, what else is there?

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Abash4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Hopefully he still has the passion and creativity to make another great game after developing Kinect games for so long

camel_toad4137d ago

He probably feels reborn now. I'm sure we'll see that old Rare magic return because Sony will most likely give him the freedom he didn't have at MS.

SilentNegotiator4137d ago

Frankly, he left a veritable creativity sink hole and joined up with a group that gives infinitely more development freedom.

fossilfern4137d ago

^^This video! MS wasting the remaining talent of Rare on some stupid kinect games and avatar clothing. Not surprised a few employees left

Hellsvacancy4137d ago

That was actually a pretty funny video

Snookies124137d ago

Amazing video, that gave me a good laugh.

PinkFunk4137d ago

Hahaha. Oh man that was good. Also laughing hysterically at the Gabe Newell at E3 one...

RICOCHET 2!!!!!! haha!

kostchtchie_4137d ago

ha ha epic video, thanks for the laugh

-Gespenst-4137d ago

Hahahaha I effing KNEW what video you'd posted immediately.

YOLO and Gabe Newell at e3 are better though.

dafegamer4137d ago

lol @ dat vid. Sad but true

kevinsheeks4137d ago

that video lol took the cake

Ezz20134136d ago

lololol OMG!!! i can't stop laughing

insomnium24136d ago

I need to see that video too. I'm at work right now so I can't atm. I'm commenting here just so I can return to this topic afterwards.

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Temporary4137d ago

Microsoft is the king of ruining talent. I hope after all the Kinect garbage he was forced to make, he still has the passion for making awesome games with HIS vision and not THEIRS.

RuleofOne343 4137d ago

You make it seem like he was forced to stay ,he could have left at anytime. The point is he decide he has no one to blame but himself.

Rainstorm814137d ago

I agree witwickidy , money talks....but after your pockets get full doing what you don't want to, you gotta move on.

user39158004137d ago

There goes a man with great talent and now a traitor lol... I always liked him, but this shows were his integrity ls, with more moey lol.. I hope he does well, now sony has the trades of ms given to sony lol.. I guess a rampage of trolls wll praise him now, cause while he was with rare he was not good and now that he is with sony the drolls will say he was the best lol...
I wonder if this was the leak that MS spoke abouut?

Qrphe4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

>having loyalty for a conglomerate

They love you too very much and would never betray you.

jessupj4137d ago

I think you're getting mixed up.

It's Sony that offers creative freedom. It's MS that offers the short term financial gain and not much else.

Liquid_Ocelot4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Off topic: somebody post this up!
Orbis updated info! Can't post original link from leaks as I can't load the page for whatever reason :/
http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

On topic: it will be interesting to see what Sony does with him. Hopefully new IP

dboyman4136d ago

Disappointed with amount of Ram. Has Sony not learned with the PS3 when it come to Amount of Ram, even if its much faster. It should be increase to 6 or 8 GB...

3-4-54137d ago

Yea as much as I'd not like to see him stay with Microsoft, wasting talent on useless Kinect is unproductive for him.

GraveLord4137d ago

You don't know what you got until its gone. Treat your people better Microsoft!

nukeitall4137d ago

MS has an open policy, where you get to choose within the company where you want to work. When Kinect was released a lot of people jumped on that bandwagon at MS because it was exciting.

This guy worked on Kinect because he wanted to, not because he was forced.

Another tip, to get hired somewhere else you have to come from a respectable place of work or experience, that means, this speaks more of MS quality employees than it has anything to do with Sony.

Before anything thinks this guy might change focus and work on core games, think again. Companies usually hire based on experience to do a certain task, which means he will likely work on the likes of Sports Champion....

mcstorm4136d ago

I agree with what you have said but I really don't get some people on here. They make out as if Kinect Sports 1 and 2 were bad games. Kinect sports 1 and 2 are 2 of the best Kinect games. Its a plus for sony to have someone work for them that worked on Kinect stuff as he can help develop Move/Eye toy software.

But why do people go on that he was forced to do Kinect games ect dose anyone on here know the guy? We all move jobs in life that's just what we do and there is no need to start a fan war over a X MS worker who is now Working for Sony. If your talented you will move form rival company to another as MS Sony and Nintendo are at the top of the tree and you cant really go up form there so you go from side to side.

morkendo234137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Now that george andreas escape the clutches of kinect
which was waste of time. will he re-invent RARE good quality games.
possibility he could call old co-workers and rebuilt RARE for Sony under a new name ZARE..................
banjo-kazooie as a start? maybe??

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

"Donnchadh Murphy, the 3D modeler that worked on the series, said this past August that Microsoft was not interested enough to pursue making the game. “We all wanted to make Killer Instinct 3, but Microsoft was more interested in broadening their demographic than making another fighting game. So it never got made, I doubt it ever will"

http://www.digitaltrends.co...

showtimefolks4137d ago

It's making how towards the end of this gen MS have only focused on casuals yet ps3 has still passed it up.

For first 4 years the message from MS was clear we are the console for core gamers it's only after they saw wii doing so well they totally turned their back on us who made them successful to begin with

But good for this guy he has left a good gaming company for a great one with a long history. Hopefully they will use him right and not just ask him to do next move or move games

TheStorm4137d ago

@smashman98

It said he was there for 16 years, so he's been there since 96-97. That was during the glory days, so he was probably with a lot of the great oldies at Rare, it was around 2000 that most of them started to jump ship.

mrkeith4137d ago (Edited 4137d ago )

Did he help on any of the Donkey Kong games for SNES?

phantomexe4137d ago

No i don't think so in fact the rare that MS owns now may have a handful of the people that did goldeneye or DK. There a shell of there former self. Preety sad i know, Free radical had most of the old rare before they went under. I think that's preety much the story.

edgeofsins4137d ago

@UnholyLight

Easy way out? Sony has been experimenting with Move like motion controls for years before the Wii was announced.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Move is a clear improvement in gameplay difference from Wii games when games take advantage of Move. Kinect on the other hand offers not much more then the PSEye in terms of gameplay experience.

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Trenta274137d ago

Why use such good talent on such crappy games?

Froakie4137d ago

He must have got sick of making junk.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai4d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19723d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19723d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz3d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay3d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers32d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken32d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g32d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing32d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H932d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola32d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66932d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle32d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg33d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos33d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola33d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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