PlayStation All-Stars Producer ‘Flattered’ By Smash Brothers Comparisons

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Producer Gavin Russell doesn’t seem to mind the Super Smash Brothers comparisons.

[PoSTedUP]

of course not, it influenced 98.9% of his game. lol

[Morrigan-Aensland]

I've never played PlayStation all star battle royal but I know ill like it better than smash brothers. Have anyone seen power stone on the dreamcast? The game may look similar to smash brothers but are we going to commpare every fighting game that zooms out a lot with platforms to smash brothers? We know don't doesn't make rubbish and when they make somet similar to others then theirs will be better.

Ps. When I need clean up any mess on my kitchen counter, I use bounty napkins

[Irishguy95]

Previewers sorta confirm they are basically the same though, comparing Smash bros with all stars is like comparing two different gametypes in COD.

Not that I care, I always wanted alot more characters in SB so this is a must buy for me

[PoSTedUP]

yeah im not dissing the game. ssb is legendary, this will be a breath of fresh air in the genre. it's just the developer saying he's "flatterer" is arrogant and kinda rude imo (idk maybe i took it the wrong way) knowing he knows he pretty much replicated SSB just with different characters. like: when someone says they're flattered, it pretty much means "hehe oh stop, i wasen't trying to..." in this case.

[Morrigan-Aensland]

Correction to last post. May I have all the same agrees but no disagrees please. I also prefer cats over dogs because cats don't eat sh*t

I've never played PlayStation all star battle royal but I know ill like it better than smash brothers. Have anyone seen power stone on the dreamcast? The game may look similar to smash brothers but are we going to commpare every fighting game where the camera zooms out a lot with platforms to smash others? We know Sony doesn't make rubbish and when they make something similar to others then theirs will be better.

@ guitarded
You think just because Sony devs had a Wii in there studio means that they copied everything from smash brothers. You are ... Do you tie your own shoes lace? A lot of devs for all companies often owns systems from other companies. It could mean that someone likes playing a game, get inspiration from certain games and other things. It could also mean that they use the Wii as a door stop, they got the Wii for free from e3 or whatever.

Miyamoto was playing with the PlayStation eye in 2003 at e3 for over 2hrs and there is a tape of it so that is where nintendo got the inspiration to make the Wii and now the Wii u. Could be true and it could not be

Ps. When I need clean up any mess on my kitchen counter, I use bounty napkins

[guitarded77]

Pre-All-Stars announcement pics showed devs with a Wii hooked up in their development space... so yeah, they were heavily influenced by SSB. It's perfectly okay to be influenced by a good game. Look at Mario Kart -> ModNation. MK has been the premier kart racer for several console generations, and ModNation has taken kart racing to a whole new level with its depth of customization.

I see All-Stars doing the same thing... adding to an already successful formula, and taking it to another level. This is not only good for PS users, but for Nintendo users too. It makes Nintendo raise their bar of quality and features. Competition breeds innovation and as a gamer this is good for all of us.

[LiquifiedArt]

I hate to be the naysayer, but Allstars would be better if it was a direct SSB copy. Keeping the good and removing the bad of SSB is the way to go.

HOWEVER,

Allstars removed some of the GOOD from SSB for no reason, besides the fact that they can say, "We have our own death system, Combo system"

So basically, They removed the good from SSB for the sole purpose of saying "See it isn't an exact clone!" Which is what idiots do.

SHOULD OF STUCK TO THIS RECIPE:

Keep the Good, Remove the Bad and Add something New!

[Oh_Yeah]

power stone YES, best fighter next to smash bros ive ever played..the reason i still have my dreamcast for the most part. capcom needs to make a powerstone 3

i dont really like 2d fighters other than smash bros and ill probably like this too,theres nothing to the regular 2d fighters like mvc and sf...feels like im playing with paper cut outs in a box...thats pretty much it, so im glad to see more of the smash bros formula.

where smash bros and this succeed is 4 players on screen, interactive levels/ objects, etc. theyre just a lot more fun

[user5467007]

I think people forget that Super Smash Bros was inspired from The Outfoxies.

Seriously I hate how people think SSB was the start of this genre. Nintendo copied another games and made it better in their own way, just like what Sony are doing.

I mean fans have been asking for a SBB type game for years, Sony has listened and are basicaly giving us what we want. So I wouldn't really say they are copying on purpose, just giving people what they want like any good company would do.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Machioto]

Ssshhhhh,you're not suppose to show that because Nintendo invented everything relating to games/gaming./s In all seriousness,I hate how people try to discredit this game even though 80% of stuff that makes ssb stand out is in this game and it pre-dates ssb by 2 years or so.

[from the beach]

Eh, really?

I've never played this (it looks awesome though) but it looks like a versus Rolling Thunder..

Has Nintendo actually cited it as an influence or are we just making stuff up here?

[GribbleGrunger]

@PoSTedUP

Just thought you might find this interesting. Do you have any knowledge of psychology? Well, when people compare things continuously, what it does is leech of the possible success of the product they compare it to.

This is how it will go:

scenario 1: BR is an absolute runaway success. The conclusion will be that it was bound to be a big success because it copied the 'thing' you compared it to. This will help you cope with the disappointment of it selling well.

scenario 2: BR is not a great success. The conclusion will be that it failed to emulate the greatness of the thing you compared it to. This will give you a reason for joy and a reason to reiterate why what you compared it to is better.

So you see, you can't lose... Well you can of course, if someone understands psychology

[xursz]

Intelligent bubble for you.

[GribbleGrunger]

lol. Give with one hand and take with the other

[NastyLeftHook0]

then doom influenced 98% of every shooter ever made.

[Ck1x]

Which would be true! There are just other shooters much bigger than Doom in popularity. As long as it turns out to be a great game and its well received, then he should be flattered... If Sony could replicate a fraction of the success that SSB has, then they've created a great new franchise for the brand.

[crxss]

being a smash bros pro and having played psalbr enough I can tell you that they are very very similar, the only difference being your wavebird/64 controller's joystick will never be in the same condition after playing smash bros. psalbr won't break a controller's analog stick

[Nimblest-Assassin]

It might look the same, however they play very differently

look at a majority of fighters on the market... They all look the same. Someone may not be able to tell the difference between blazblue and king of fighters

however when you sit down and play them, they play very differently

that's why fighters are unique... They all play differently and require different strategies

[Teaber]

Whether you sony fan boys like it or not, hes right about SSB influencing PS all stars. Didn't they have a wii in their office while working on this game? LOL

[Biggest]

They also had a mini-fridge. Does that mean solo yogurt cup influenced this game?

[sonic989]

he is being humble there is many people here who cant understand what being a gentleman means
the fanboys keep asking him the same question to annoy him but he responded very well everytime
plus smash bros is a great series and an old one its great to be compared to it in just one installment btw i never played smash bros before

[Ramon3MR]

Well at E3, Sony told us that it was "their stamp on Super Smash Bros."

So I dunno that I'd call it a "comparison".

The game was fun to play btw.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

I can't believe some of you claim that All-Stars is better than Smash. You haven't even played the game and you claim something like that? This is Sony's first All-Stars game, no way it will be better than a series that has 3 games and an upcoming 4th

[GodHandDee]

You are doing the same mistake aren't you? You say it can't be good even before it comes out lol

[TXIDarkAvenger]

So then what gives a majority of people to say All-Stars will be better than Smash and have more agrees than disagrees.

N4G once an Xbox fanboy site now a Sony fanboy site.

[brew]

Take your own advice. You've never played All-Stars.

[GodHandDee]

point 1: you are being a hypocrite by not applying the same standard to yourself

point 2: some people like Playstation franchises more than Nintendo ones. They will obviously find this game to be better. Some will also prefer things like mashing stages, mashing soundtrack, super based combat etc. more.

For example I know I will enjoy this game more for the reasons I just listed. I think you are just thinking too much about it

[Frances-the-Mute]

I'm way past the comparisons, I'm just glad we're getting the game we've all conceived of.

[JBSleek]

Where was all of this understanding when Dante Inferno came out and immediate you heard the loud screams of rip off and other nonsense and it was vastly butchered even after being a pretty decent game? The hypocrisy.

[brew]

My guess is that Playstation fans have been asking for a Mascot fighter in the mold of Super Smash for years and years now .... and they probably never once really thought about asking for a God of War clone from a 3rd party. They already had Goddess of War , Conan , and some others as well as the beast known as God of War.

That's probably the main difference.

[neutralgamer19]

Usually when Sony touches something its golden. this will be a top notch game and i wont be surprised if its better than many other games out there in the same genre.

[Xperia_ion]

Why cant we learn to judge something when we have it in our hands, the only exception to this rule is Capcom, #### them : D

[lastofgen]

Why should he be flattered?? The only difference between the two are basically the characters...
Honestly, I'd have more respect for him if he just said that super smash bros was a huge influence for all-stars. I mean, even their official youtube video on the playstation channel had the "super smash bros" tags.

[xursz]

Good news for you, they have given credit to Smash as insperation. :D
I'll dig up the clip for you.

Here's the link bud - http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

[Sgt_Slaughter]

BOTH GAMES ARE GREAT! Why does there need to be a comparison of the 2?

THEY CAN CO-EXIST! I know that half of N4G probably can't grasp the concept of that, but either way, Battle Royal and Smash Bros are and will always be great.

[lastofgen]

Actually, since all-stars hasn't come out yet, we really don't know if it's great or not.

[KonaBro]

Will Nintendo fanboys shut up about Smash Bros? Nintendo doesn't have a patent on 4 player brawlers. Anyone can make a game like it. Also the fact that you have to use supers to kill people instead of knocking them out is a major difference to Smash. You fanboys make me sick to even like playing Smash Bros. with your bias.

[lastofgen]

oh, and you're not a fanboy?? judging from your comments history...well, you can figure that out by yourself.
people are entitled to their own opinions and thoughts and we, as a community, should welcome such an integral part of our conversations.

[Over726]

i HOPE SONY PICTURES GETS IN ON THIS THAT WAY THEY CAN ADD EVEN MORE TO THE LIST

[ChunkyLover53]

Flattered? I wouldn't have guessed that would be what he would be feeling. If I were tasked with making a game that looked and played almost exactly like another established game franchise, I'd probably be a bit embarrassed.

The bar is set incredibly high because Super Smash Brothers plays so well and its the definitive brawler. Every little thing PlayStation All Stars does, will be compared to Smash Brothers.

[xursz]

EDIT:

Nvm, you're allowed to have your say. Looking forward to All-Stars. :]

[MaximusMagna]

cannot wait for it..

[omarzy]

It is a rip off is other ways than people keep saying. No sh*t Nintendo did not create the brawler genre or crossovers, but it is the play style, and the look. I'm getting the game day one, but just look at the damn thing! You cannot even rip off a genre anyway. A genre is made and you contribute, but you can sure as hell rip off a play style and layout. In this case, ripping off smash is not a bad thing at all. I was kinda ticked off when this came into the know, but then you think that if they want to borrow from a game then i WANT them to rip off smash bros.

[BlaqMagiq24]

I think it's funny how these Nintendo fanboys keep saying that it's not gonna be better than Smash Bros when they haven't even played the game yet. I think they're butthurt cuz Sony has better characters. Come on Ninty fans let them disagrees pile up.

[unicron7]

Glad it's similar. Means I can get the SSB experience without having to buy a crappy outdated SD Wii. All in glorious HD. :-D

[konohashin]

Yeah go on and play on your crappy outdated 1024x576 or maybe 1280x720 below 30 fps console instead xD

[DivineAssault]

Im surprised they mentioned the name "SMASH BROS" in their comment.. Usually companies keep the names of the competition out of their public comments.. They usually make refrence to it by saying things like "Ya our influence came from many SOURCES" or something like that

[konohashin]

How the hell can they feel ‘Flattered’ when they clearly planned to base their game on Smash Bros?

They even had Wii consoles with brawl standing on their desks LOOOL
Just google it.

....

Its just acting so their game keeps being mentioned etc but people dont seem to get it lol.