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PC's Worst Nightmare Coming True? Upgradeable Consoles Next Round

Sega back in the day had the 32x and SegaCD, add-ons and ways to extend the life of the Genesis but it was a great attempt at the wrong time.

Interesting enough it appears that developers feel the time is almost upon us to see this happen again and in the next round of consoles the last PC gaming advantage in terms of max settings and graphic card updates may appear in a new console format.

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Hitman07694777d ago (Edited 4776d ago )

This could have serious ramifications on the console industry. I think there are pros and cons to the permanent specs of current day consoles but additional upgrades could have some good possibility as well. I would personally prefer to see shorter life cycles and better upgrades on consoles rather than upgrade ability but if they can face the challenges of designing such an add-on and find solutions that further gaming, I'll be all for it.

@CameronL99 Completely valid points.

CameronL994776d ago

Shorter life cycles? Shorter than 5 years which is what we've had every generation until this one? Do you realize how bankrupt Console makers would be if they had to come out with a console every 3 years? There's a massive amount of marketing and technology that goes into them, Sony spent billions coming up with the PS3 with its Cell architecture, they needed a 10 year life cycle just for some of that to pay off. Noone wants to spend billions on something that they're going to replace in 3 years.

kancerkid4776d ago

Although I think it would be easier to upgrade a console (Plug and Play) over a PC(compatibility, etc), I do not think it would be anywhere near as cheap, nor would any PC gamer care as there would be an extreme limitation of choices.

If you are going to go the upgradeable root, just build a PC. It has much greater functionality for a slightly higher price.

Oh, and does this mean their would be tiers of games, where some games could only be played on the best hardware? I mean MS can't even publish games that require an HDD b/c not everyone has one, though most people do.

I do not see this going anywhere.

Army_of_Darkness4776d ago

Ya right! If consoles get shorter life cycles, then i might as well purchase every other next gen console then since it would be pointless to buy each one....
I say, the longer the cycle the better! I dont really like the idea of upgradable consoles though cause who knows, they might abuse it like they do with dlc. ...

evrfighter4776d ago (Edited 4776d ago )

upgradeable consoles takes a huge part of the pro vs the con of pc vs. console gaming argument away from the console gamer.

Not only that but pc gamers would point and laugh at the console gamers who are severely hamstrung by the amount of access Sony and M$ would allow console gamers to have.

I mean it basically boils down to the pc elite poking fun at the
"poor mans pc"
"the DLC pc"
"fisher price pc "
"little tykes pc"
"It's Nerf or a real pc"

Oh how I wish this would happen. there would be lulz and it would be awesome.

but then we are getting pulled into HHG's momentum. let's start from the beginning.

1) HHG has no clue pc gaming exists and once he finds out he begins to go on about how it doesn't compare to consoles. Even goes as far to debate pc gamers about it.

2)As HHG gains more knowledge about the gaming industry he realizes that PC gaming is where its at but to come out and support it would make him look the fool. Foot in mouth syndrome.

3) console gaming as we speak is dried up and he's always going on about the next-gen and the future. He has nothing to combat the advancements that are being made on the pc and if you look at #2 he's lookin the fool.

4) his only option is to do what he can to downplay pc gaming. Expect to see more articles like this from in the future.

NewMonday4776d ago

Technically the lifecycle would be extended not reduced, only the graphics chip would be changed, and maybe RAM, but for this to work every game has to ship with all graphics settings and features like PC games, or this would be pointless.

This is not a bad idea, think about it , we already have blue ray HDD wi fi power supply, why buy all that when all we need for an extension is a graphics chip, maybe for just 60-100$.

And this generation is already upgradable with replicable HDD

FanboyPunisher4776d ago

"poor mans pc"
"the DLC pc"
"fisher price pc "
"little tykes pc"
"It's Nerf or a real pc"

Theonetheonly4776d ago

Dear Mr hiphop gamer.
Just admit that you want to start gaming on a pc.

If the community worked together to bring love to the pc you would have exactly what you are so excited about. all the best exclusives would see the pc market unhampered by hardware limitations.

everything you just described sounds EXACTLY like a PC what it sounds like is that you want consoles to become PCs why not just buy a pc :)

you sound like a console gamer thats still in the closet about wanting to make the jump to pc.

Pc Just Jump in it only does EVERYTHING.

MaxXAttaxX4776d ago

Instead of small improvements.

That's why I stick to consoles.

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hiredhelp4776d ago

I cant see any console running a a good pc video card for one thing it would have to be farely large casing. just for the board. them chips get very hot very quickly you will run into over heating issues.
thats without the cpu and ram.

nice thought but really you want that you might as well have a pc. and to have the latest tech lets just say graphics cards are like mobile phones. if you want the very latest tech .you go bankrupt cos next one be out very shortly after.

joeorc4776d ago (Edited 4776d ago )

Is that the same Hybrid core processors that are in mobile gaming like smartphones an tablets are also going into desktop PC's not to mention the very same PC only centric game engine developers are making their game engines compatable, why is that mainly because Microsoft has no other choice to make the next ver. Of windows Os with full Api's to run on these chipsets.

Thank about that for a sec, in over 15+ years Microsoft has not or pushed a. Full windows Os in the consumer space on a non. Intel based chipset.

Add in the fact that very likely that the next. Game systems all three put out will. Use the same core chipset, maybe not the same series of chips but the same core chipset which will. In effect mean from the portible space to the tablet to the smartphone to the game console to the Pc all the same development tools can be used with less waste in not only time but manpower needed.

Its a brave new world an in my opinion it's being dominated by the Arm chipset.

hiredhelp4776d ago (Edited 4776d ago )

are see you done your homework .you right in one sense. not sure motorola or the samsung. , but also the NGP and the ipad two both have the same chipset i understand what you talking. about and one day these will become very powerfull to display on a much wider resalution screen.

but to be honist if every hardware was going to run the same there would be no need to have soo many company's pushing new hardware.

As for the handheld right now i think its about how each system is designed to use these new ARM chipset's dont forget the psp had a arm chipset.

but with the pc the pc wont use such a hardware as its going too far too fast thoe a dual core on upcomming mobiles is impressive and 1ghz cpu becomming the norm. you have to take into account this is still 1ghz even at a quad core thats 4g's thoe with what they packing in the smartphones and ngp could it once run on a console. right now no because the screen size. in future very possible. thats my take on it m8. glad to see JOEORC you enthusiasm same as mine bubble voted. wish i could bloody spell

DeadlyFire4776d ago

How is this a bad thing. I say its awesome idea. First thing I would like to note. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo can brand the hardware and release the updates at specific times. Say every 5 years or so. Get Generation 7 update now or something like that. Games can be branded with labels for this as well like each generation so really not much changes. Just maybe your price point lowers. Not a bad concept. Needs a trail run though I believe and maybe a bigger case to be sold with a console. Basically a full tower desktop as my next console + monitor. I say bring it on. I love this idea as I love PC gaming and it would open up a new world as far as software boundaries are concerned. PC is the top platform and their is a reason for that. Consoles branching into PC market would be great. It would start a new rivalry. Likely Xbox would get Windows support. PS3, Wii would likely be open market or create their own OS.

What I like about this concept is there is room for the consoles to create their own SDK and require it for use up until new hardware is set and then say here is the new SDK and new generation hardware to run it. Its the one thing PC doesn't have. A set time window for hardware/software.

I hope this does come true. Adds new depth to the consoles and opens a new world to consumers. A console that never dies.

ct034776d ago

It's not a bad thing. But considering how people keep stressing that "having to upgrade your PC every 4 months" (note how you supposedly have no choice in the matter, you HAVE TO upgrade) is awful.

DeadlyFire4775d ago

Well PCs don't have to be updated everyday like some believe. Yes new parts come out every 4 months or so. Are they nessesary to play next great game. NO. A good Graphics card and PC setup will last you 2 solid years without requiring any significant change and after that only required bump would be Graphics card, or Memory to last you another 2 years. Then maybe an overhaul around 4-6 years. Depending on if you will allow yourself to tone down a few games to lower settings with same resolution.

Graphics cards now have a high quality card line for $250 bucks. Not bad at all.

THILLREBORN4777d ago

I've been hearing this for some time and I'm down.

SpaceSquirrel4776d ago

I could see consoles becoming more like PCs

Burning_Finger4776d ago (Edited 4776d ago )

that would sucks ass... Majority of gamers just want to play games on default hardware and settings without costing X amount of $$$.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

-Foxtrot2h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic188150m ago(Edited 46m ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z43m ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot0m ago

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after support No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it.

thorstein1h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

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The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

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