Errrrrrrrr... average joe/jane weren't the ones that were going line-up... or run out and BUY the dang game were they?
Face it --> Killzone 2 just ISN'T-AS-POPULAR as many had hoped! IF it were --> sales numbers would have reflected it!
Sony doesn't buy exclusives --> instead it buys developers of games like Motorstorm, and Killzone 2 etc... Yeeeeeeeeeesh!
And then you go right into this -->
PS3 used to crush 360 in worldwide sales every week and every month before the last september desperate MS price cut.
So tell us all --> HOW would any price drop by Sony - NOW... NOT seem desperate? LOL!
If PS3 pricing is the ONLY thing holding back PS3 sales --> then why isn't Sony reducing the price ASAP?
With the superiority of the hardware, and software... wouldn't Sony reap more benefits - f...
Then why doesn't either Nintendo --> OR Sony call them on those numbers?
Nintendo may not give a damn... BUT <-- Sony certainly does!
And don't give us --> YOUR BS about - Sony not falling to those levels of PR slagging. We ALL know both Sony and Microsoft will slag one another whenever possible.
... So then - how come Sony isn't challenging those BS Microsoft numbers? Hmmmm?
Perhaps because no matter how much YOU want to believe it...
Sales SHOULDN'T hurt your personal enjoyment of Killzone 2... it was a great game - IMO as well... BUT..
SALES <--- can indicate how POPULAR a game is - YES?
As far as Killzone 2 goes... it WAS a super hyped game and one of the MOST talked about games leading up to its release - so stop with the lack of marketing chit-chat. The game just ISN'T as popular as many hoped it would be.
The reality so far is:
#1) It was not the PS3 system-selle...
Seems like those 1+ Million pre-orders by Europeans was a mistake after all - since Sony's sales numbers don't even back them up.
Those that like to bring those pre-orders to bare in Killzone 2 discussions can all sit back down now... those pre-sales numbers were vaporware.
I guess there just aren't as many FPS fans on the PS3 as many think... or Killzone 2 just isn't the Triple-A shooter they wanted. Or wouldn't the sales numbers be higher --> indicating Killone...
--> You can’t just assume that the 360 version of FFXIII will look like the PS3 version. Even John Carmack said that RAGE on the PS3 would look better than the 360 version because of the disc capacity issues that the 360 version has. In order for FFXIII to look identical to the PS3 version, it’s going to need a LOT of discs to maintain the same quality that just ONE Blu-ray disc can provide, and that can be very costly for Square.
One of the things that is often quoted but qui...
morganfell said: I just demonstrated easily how with only Japan and the US, the PS3 is even DESPITE A HUGE PRICE CUT by the the 360. And like most 360 supporters you ignore the other parts of the world. You know, THE LARGER PART.
Hahaha HA!
Then why not include the --> REST-OF-THE-WORLD then?
Why just the US and Japanese sales? Yeeeesh!
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Despite a huge price cut by the 360?
Ok... let's play - shall we?
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Wait-a-minute.... where are all those arguments about SAME or BETTER PS3 software sales vs 360 game sales when you look at install base to software sales ratios?
O I C --> working it BOTH WAYS eh?
Hardware sales
PS2 - 112,000
PSP - 168,000
PS3 - 218,000 (All Sony system sales combined - 498,000)
Xbox 360 - 330,000
Wii - 601,000
Nintendo DS - 563,000 (All Nintendo system sales combined - 1.164 Million)
Software sales
#1) RESIDENT EVIL 5 * Xbox 360 - 938,000
#2) POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION * DS - 805,000
#3) HALO WARS * 360 - 639,000
#4) RESIDENT EVIL 5...
It's the Game Developers --> NOT the game engine that dictates the graphics of a game.
Mirror's Edge used the Unreal Engine 3.0
Lost Odyssey used the Unreal Engine 3.0
Hail to the Chimp used the Unreal Engine 3.0
The Agency is using the Unreal Engine 3.0...
Which one of those games look anything like Gears of War or Gears of War 2?
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--> true... its gotten to a point that by just by looking at a ga...
Whether or not it is the fault of so-called --> inexperienced programmers ISN'T the point.
The FACT remains that mandatory installs are a requirement of MANY PS3 games - YES or NO?
Now tell everyone WHY those games require mandatory installs when those games have up to 50GBs of blu-ray disc space available to them.... go ahead - TELL US... I'll wait.
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The so-called AGE demographic of PS3 owners isn't MY findings... go look it up.
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That's right - the PS3 blu-ray --> DRIVE is slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360. That's a FACT.
Any informed person KNOWS why there are mandatory installs for PS3 games... and WHY they are required.
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--> The compression on 360 games cause longer loading times than if left uncompressed.
The compression techniques are so good these days that in MANY instances --> the difference between loading times by streaming from a hard d...
Carmack: We haven’t made a final call yet about whether we would actually compress things differently for the PS3, which could have a little bit higher quality. <-- NOTE!
Carmack: But there’s a lot of picky issues on that where the smaller we make it on disc, the faster it loads and other benefits like that. So if we get it to look decent on the 360 on two discs, we’ll probably leave it with that data set on the PS3, but we won’t make that decision final for another six months or...
--> regardless of the PS3 vs. 360 in terms of Rage...its pretty much moot until the game releases...one thing is certain though, if there is one 3rd party US based dev that can make the PS3 squirm with groundbreaking tech...its iD...
--> ...he confirmed to the retards that the PS3 does in fact have more memory bandwidth, and more of an architecture that a PC with a dedicated GPU and seperate ram has (as apposed to the 360's fully shared budget laptop like memory allocation)...
id Software's Todd Hollenshead said --> "Rage looks the same on all four platforms. It's all the same media, it's the same art, literally" he said. "It's damn hard to do that, but if you're a genius you'll figure out how to do it and that's what (Carmack) has done."
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--> This game will look like a bland generic multiplat title, as they all do graphically. Sure, some have their pros and cons, and some look decent. But none look Uncharted. ...
Just look at the sales numbers for the biggest EXCLUSIVE AAA PS3 games --> like Killzone 2 or LittleBigPlanet or MGS4 etc etc...
WHY aren't any of those PS3 games matching the sales numbers for the same timeframes after release as those sales numbers generated by the biggest Triple-A 360 games like Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2 - when those games released when the Xbox 360 install base was either LESS than or AROUND --> 20 Million Xbox 360 units sold worldwide... Hmm...
One can skew numbers to suit ones purpose, but the FACT remains which version sells --> MORE in general vs the other.
The Game Publishers/Developers know and accept it.. why doesn't everyone else?
Stop playing the IF IF IF game and look at the actual numbers.
Obviously --> somebody doesn't know WHY PS3 games require installs in the firs place.
Perhaps one of you INFORMED gamers can fill him/her in?
Supposedly... the average age range of PS3 owners is somewhere between the mid-twenties and mid-thirties <-- you can really tell by the usual comments left in N4G posts can't you? LOL...
--> Right that makes seance only people on N4G are the ones buying games and your right Killzone 2 is not as "popular" as I would have hoped but that dose not make it a great game.
I didn't say --> ONLY those on N4G... don't be silly!
And I NEVER EVER said Killzone 2 --> was not <-- a great game! I have stated that I thought it WAS <-- a great game!
--> What is our deal anyway I actually game you bubbles up because I like a fa...